Serial cable using craddle: having problem with Manipulator - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Dear XDA developers,
after having search on all msg and tried all the possibility I couldn't find an appropiate answer, I'm now therefore desperate for some help...
I built the serial cable using the cradle connector as detailed from Andrew Farrell in "Cradle Mods" topics ( http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60) using the following wiring combination:
XDA Con2 RS232
2------1st-----5
8------4th-----2
10-----7th-----3
I set the XDA in BootLoader mode and launched Manipulator but it sits on "scanning" and nothing is happening.
Using HiperTerminal the PC receives all the "InitDebugSerial" information from the XDA but seems like XDA do not receive signal from the PC.
On the PC there is no Active Sync (I never performed it) neither Nokia application and I "killed" all the applications that could possibly keep COM1 busy (I'm receiving anyway the info from XDA so COM1 should be open).
Not setting the bootloader mode, the XDA recognize a connection coming from the PC and begin attempting to connect (therefore the XDA also receive from the PC).
Any suggestion that would help me in the final unlocking?
My XDA is a 4.16, wallaby 5.15
Not using windows XP.
Thanks in advance!!!
Mav2
((Please note that the pin on con2 as specified from Fud in the post "Making a serial cable?!?!" are not correct: pin 8 (txd) on XDA is the 4th from left on con2 and not the 5th.
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=373))

Try connecting XDA pin 6 to 9-pin pin 4 and then try XDA 11 to 9-pin pin 6 or pin 1.

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Try connecting XDA pin 6 to 9-pin pin 4 and then try XDA 11 to 9-pin pin 6 or pin 1.
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No luck
I have now connected all rs232 pin as described below but XDA Manipulator still sits on "scanning" and nothing is happening.
I connected first:
XDA--Con2--RS232
2 (gnd) 1st 5 (gnd)
8 (txd) 4th 2 (rxd)
10(rxd) 7th 3 (txd)
and then:
XDA--Con2--RS232
6(dcd) 2nd 4 (dtr)
7 (cts) 3rd 7 (rts)
9 (rts) 5th 8 (cts)
11(dtr) 8th 6,1 (dsr, dcd)
I double tested all the connections and looked for possible short cut but everything is ok. I can see the XDA on the PC using HiperTerminal but can't send any command.
I have never performed ActiveSync yet on this XDA (I bought 2nd hand from UK), could this be a reason?
Is there a way to check that XDA connector is working 100%?
Mav2

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Finally unlocked!!! using serial made from cradle mod.

I finally managed to unlock my XDA, now I can truly say to be a proud XDA mobile owner in Italy! ;-)
[was "Serial cable using craddle: having problem with Manipulator"
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=633]
I was too excited to wait for the delivery of a serial cable from the States and I tried to use the cradle circuit (to open it you need a special screw driver to lift the 4 screw hidden underneath the 4 rubbers).
*** IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT DON'T USE THIS SYSTEM ***
you could seriously damage the cradle circuit and XDA!! Not jocking....
I connected the wire of the 9pin rs232 to the beige connector on the cradle circuit as follow (please note that the connection of only the first 3 lines below didn't work for me):
[Con2 is the beige connector, pins are counted form the left facing it]
XDA-----Con2---RS232
2 (gnd)---1st--- 5(gnd)
8 (txd)---4th--- 2 (rxd)
10(rxd)---7th--- 3 (txd)
6(dcd)----2nd--- 4 (dtr)
7 (cts)----3rd----7 (rts)
9 (rts)----5th----8 (cts)
11(dtr)---8th----6 (dsr, dcd)
Note that the last connection really made the difference for me (thanks XDA Dev. Peter Poelman!!).
I experienced problems when using Manipulator with my Notebook, it was just sitting on "scanning" mode looking for the com port...
Using HyperTerminal I could receive from XDA but not able to send command.
I eventually tried Manipulator with my desktop PC and... GOT IT!!! The com port has been found in 4 second, and after having pressed on "unlock" I was UNLOCKED in less then 1 minute!!! Yippiieeeeee!
Still don't know if the problem was:
- XDA with low battery charge
- a false connection on the serial cable
- or a problem with my notebook
But this is not important anymore now ;-)
Thanks a lot to all XDA-Developers for the great job with Manipulator and for this great forum!
Hope this msg will make life easier also for some new XDA user.
Mav2
Respect !!
You can have problems with rs-232 on laptops for the following reason.
a 'real' RS-232 voltages of 12v (+&-). Some laptops just procude 5V levels and if the other side stricktly implements RS232 it just will not work. To come back to your list: I doubt if it was the battery charge. You could argue wether it was a 'false connection' or a 'problem' with your notebook' but in a way the last two were right.
For RS232 the advice is always to first use it on a desktop system before using a laptop.
It's a great mod and thanks for the description.
Robert
@mav2
hi,
i have just unloked my ppc,was locked to T-mobile.
i have been strugling for 2days with the pin outs shown in page ''connecters''.i make 3cables with different pinout but does not work,
then i read ur post and thought,no harm to give it a try,,,,,and u know,,it works like a MAGIC .......good.
thanks and thanks again, for sharing ur experience.
and for the mods of this forum..plz put these correct and easy pinout on their page ,without getting involved in hassel ,for male or female connector.
any way i found this forum very helpful with very nice pplz.
best regards
pervaiz.

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I have an x10i and until yesterday i had no problems with it. I cannot connect my phone to the pc and it only charges after 7 seconds from connecting it to the usb. When i connect it to the pc it takes 7 seconds and then shows that it charges but i dont have anything in the notification bar about mounting the usb.
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viper619 said:
Sory for being a noob but where is semc. Is it on the mobile? Or should i remove it from the pc?
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On the computer, download and run the run program, it's pretty self explanatory.
I think your micro usb is broken. Mine does exactly the same thing. It is only connecting on the two prongs that charge and not the two for data transfer. There is no fix I am getting a replacement as thousands of others have done as this is a common problem. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777721
But id was working before the pc restarted
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I tried using usb diview but with no success. Anyways i will send it to se tomorrow.
Thnx.
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