Making a serial cable?!?! - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Your guide to making serial cable is a bit iffy! You say we shall call this pin number 1 but we haven't got any confirmation about this... Is it pin 1 or not - doesn't fill me with confidence
Is it possible to make a USB to serial adaptor cable? I assume not as there arn't enough wires on the USB cable but I'm not familiar with this at all - yet!!
I've searched the web for a guide to serial cable pin layout but I can't find anything anymore.
Might just go and buy one and hope for the best.
Cheers
Fud

Also...
Can see anywhere if you can use a laptop to connect via IR com1 and unlock the xda with Manipulator.

IR port is not active.
So no this is not possible.

Can anybody help?
I still cannot get this to work. I have made my serial cable using a null modem cable and the board inside the O2 cradle. I have used a circuit tester to find the continuity between the actual XDA connector and the power connector for the cradle (con2 i think) - It has all the relevent pins for the serial connection.
Manipulator sits on the scanning ports screen and ActiveSync seems to be stuck in a loop but does not connect. I have obviously disabled ActiveSync b4 trying to connect with Manipulator and vice versa.
I have also attempted to rewire this as advised by one of you on another forum - using just the TX RX and GND pins as I am only trying to unlock the phone. This still does not work.
If somebody could send me a diagram of the serial connection it would help because the instructions here are a little vague. With just TX and RX connections I have wired up as so:
Com Port------------XDA----------------Con2
2-----------------------8-----------------5th connector from left
3----------------------10----------------7th from left
5-----------------------2-----------------1st from left
Also looking down on the circuit board with con1 away from you and con2 toward you. Con1 Pin 1 is on the right - right?!
I could go and buy the cable but to be honest I would probably just go and get a new phone on O2 to use that sim. I would really like to get somewhere on this coz it's now annoying!

Working
Sweet, Sweet, Sweet.
Didn't work with Manipulator but works with terminal prog??
I am now unlocked
Radio 4.06
Wallaby 5.15
Dunno if there is a prob with it - but just to let you know...
THX

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Using non-BT headset while unit is in cradle

Is there any way we could use the non-BT headset while the unit is docked in the cradle? I'm so frustated why O2 decided to place the headset socket at the bottom.
Your only options would be either to use the speakerphone, or buy a Bluetooth headset.
TheGadgetGuy said:
Your only options would be either to use the speakerphone, or buy a Bluetooth headset.
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Or use a mini-sync cable that doesn't cover the hole.
Hmmm... is it possible to alter the cradle to make a passage for the headset? Wouldn't it break the cradle or I might hit something that will malfunction it?
it's hard to say without taking it apart and looking
maybe it's just the connector and a joining of the power and usb cables in there
who knows if one does not try
opening it
hmm... if you take a look at the back side of cradle, there is a power connector (left from the cable) and a hole, with piece of rubber (right from the cable).
...anybody knows, what that is?? :roll:
Buzz
buzz_lightyear said:
hmm... if you take a look at the back side of cradle, there is a power connector (left from the cable) and a hole, with piece of rubber (right from the cable).
...anybody knows, what that is??
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I know... but I've got good news and I've got bad news for you...
Good news - it's a blanking grommit over the place where the O2 headphones plug in, giving you full headphone functionality via the cradle.
The bad news - it appears only to be installed on the serial cradle!
I have both a serial and a USB cradle - the serial is so I can talk to the unit from Virtual PC (doesn't support USB). There was no blanking cover on the serial and the socket is visible, but I had to take the base apart on the USB to discover that it doesn't have the socket fitted.
I remember that the serial was listed as a "serial cradle with audio" when I bought it. Sadly another example of O2's poor after sales support.
THANX mtbsoft,
does it only need the connector to be installed or the serial cradle is something completely different inside, I mean from the audio output point of view, USB and serial boards inside are sure different.. )
From what I could see (this is from memory), the USB board has all the necessary tracks on it to permit the jack/connector just to be soldered on. However, I haven't opened the serial so I'm just assuming it has the same number/placing of contacts.
I'll dig out my torq screw drivers and my camera some time and post some comparitive shots.
thanks mtbsoft,
please do update me about this, regarding what electronic parts to buy and how to work it out. i really want to make use of my cradle, and if it does need some soldering or whatever, i would definitely have it done... by someone else

Serial & USB pin connections for XDA2

I would like to connect my XDA2 to a garmin gps. I know there are ways to do it with null modem cables etc, but would like to use a simple cable, cut the end off it and put a pfranc connector on the Tx and Rx serial wires.
I wondered about using this as a starting point, as it would let me provide power to the XDA2 also.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58544&item=5137949363
But.....it is USB. Can I simply cut off the USB connector and identify the Tx Rx wires as with simple serial cables. I suspect due to the plug & play nature of USB, the wiring is more complex.
Thanx
J
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
I don't know much about the USB side though.
Thanks thats helpful.....The USB is quite separate from the serial transmission, so cables will not be interchangable. Have ordered some connectors, and just make one from scratch. 8)

HELP - Connector broken on bottom of XDA II. Can't Charge

This is probably a fairly simple problem for you guys.
The connector on the bottom of my XDA2 appears to have come dislodged.
It has been getting harder and harder to get it to charge recently but with a bit of pressure in one direction it appeared to charge OK.
That is until my GF plugged it in to charge and now its totaly dislodged.
I think the socket has broken free from its soldered terminals into the PCB inside the XDA2.
Is there a quick fix anyone can suggest (I am a qualified Electronic Engineer and can solder) or is there a repair centre (hopefully near Newcastle upon tyne (North East UK).
PLEASE someone HELP!!!!
Tom
i have the same problem, but i got the pin chart from here, and wired a charge hole on the outside. now i can only sync via IR. lot slower that usb. for some reason, the solder wont hold the same plug the way the manufacter did.
good luck.
Xda Service Centre
Vulcan Road North
Norwich
NR6 6AQ
Tel: 0808 100 3427
Pin Diagram for XDA 2 Connector
Where on here can I get pin connector.
Also where can I get tool to unscrew back off XDA2 so I can try and repair myself
Tom
1) use the search function. it's on wiki.xda-developers.com
2) you seem pretty unsure of yourself for a EE qualified engineer. Why, where does one obtain a torx screwdriver? A T6 will do.
We get this alot at work and use these guys. email them on
[email protected]
35 quid for a fix 72hr turnaround.
And no i have nothing to do with them
Possible solution
Hello,
I have the same problem and have managed the following solution to be able to charge the device with "a connector", its working perfect for me:
Note: You will lost some headset-functionality, I have tested that no internal components are affected, because the PIN used for power supply is cutted from the mainboard.
Disasemble the Device completely to have the main circuit board in the hand free from other coponents to be able to solder properly.
Buy a 4-contacts mini-jack connector (2.5mm)
Cut the Power Supply cable Power-Jack to replace it with the Mini-Jack (Image2 and Image4 )
Solder a cable to the 3 last ping of the base connector (Image1)
Cut (with Dremel for example...) one of the connectors of the Jack soldered on the mainboard (Image 3 and Image5)
Solder the cable that comes from the Base connector to the onboard Jack (Image 3 and 5) This is to get positive power from the Jack connector to the right place on the mainboard.
I hope this is enough, if you need more details please let me know.
Regards,
I have the same problem, though I am able to charge my qtek 2020 by putting it in one direction.
I am thinking about soldering a femal mini-usb port using pins 13,20,21,22 for positive power, 16,17,18 for ground, and 14,15 for UDC+ and UDC-. Has anyone managed to do this ?
Aw crap. Same thing's just happened to my XDA. The connector at the base has snapped. It's still connected (barely) but charging and data transfer won't work.
Is there any way to replace the connector with a mini-usb port at all or an alternative method that doesn't require me to send my phone out for 3 days?
Some threads that might help:
How to install USB connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=242772&highlight=connector
pinout from wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
Please help me out to find pinout for standard USB sync cable. I have Windows PH10B phone and I bought Qtec 2020 sync cable on ebay and unfortunately it doesn't charge and doesn't sync.
Thank you,
Eugene

Resurrecting the Wizard

Hello, I have a G4 wiza200, which had a broken USB port. I bought a replacement female jack and replaced the faulty one. Everything seems to be ok, there appear to be no short circuits and the Wizard will charge when connected either to the charger or cradled. The problem is that it's not discovered from the PC and it only charges when connected. I have no way to flash the rom or unlock the SIM lock.
Anyone any ides what the problem may be or of a possible solution?
Thanks
Edit: I forgot to mention that I don't have the original cable and I'm using the one I got with my N95 but I guess that's probably irrelevant as it is just a USB --> Mini USB cable.
Check if all the connectors are soldered properly ,charging doesn't confirm that it'll establish connectivity also,maybe the connectors for connectivity is not having a proper connection.There are perhaps five connectors,check with volt meter to confirm connection or get the phone in bootloaders (multicolor screen) connect to pc via usb cable and check if small usb appears in the bootloaders,if it appears it'll confirm establishing connectivity and you can flash a rom,but if it doesn't show it means there's a connection problem,either with the mini usb port or the usb cable.
Cheers!
Thanks for the reply. I have managed to SIM unlock it by sending the enableRapi.cab to the phone and installing it and using lokiwiz over bluetooth. I will go get another USB jack tomorrow and replace it again. Hopefully the problem is there and not one of the tiny ICs.
Believe it or not, it was the cable. I used the cable of a GPS device and it worked. The wizard has now officially returned from the dead
Yeah, I believe the nokia mini usb is a four prong, and ours is a five prong.
Glad to see you got it all fixed up
Now on to flashing some roms.......
enjoy
Thanks mate, I already have. Meanwhile I have discovered that G4s have their own RUU. I'm now running TNT's touchflo version of WM6.1, I have flashed the radio and the splash screens.

12 pin usb connection

Hi,
I recently purchased a usb cable for my android head unit and the lead doesn't work. I didn't buy the unit so I don't know the brand etc. The unit was in the car when I bought the car.
I'm guessing the wires that plug into the usb connection are in the wrong order. I have no way of finding out the correct order. Does anyone on the forum know the correct order or even show me a picture of their usb cable.
I've bought 2 cables so far, neither of them have worked and they cost close the £100. It's very frustrating that I can't get them to work
Thanks in advance
What does the seller suggest and what happened when you tried that.
Also, with no information and detailed screenshots, how did you want help
When I plug in the usb cable and try any basic usb connections like phone chargers usb sticks etc. Nothing happens at all.
I've attached a screenshot from a product guide I found online if that helps.
If anyone knew which pins were for data transfer or voltage, that could help me loads.
Thanks
Measuring is the magic word. 8 pins will be connected in the original cable. (VBUS)+5V 2 times and 2x GND
...then you only have to find out what is D- and what is D+ for the data lines.
If you don´t want to measure: Open the magic box and have a look at the pins from the connector inside.
Just with your picture no one can tell anything. Each supplier does it´s own magic.
By the way... Connecting that wrong, may damage the internal USB-Hub and you can buy a new mainboard... just to mention. Trying around is not a good idea.

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