As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
I think it might have galileo support, but, in my opinion, the gps is very good in this phone , i usually get very good accuracy when i'm using it...
F-L-Y-E-R said:
As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
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No official timeline but mi6 is on testing in China.Note 2 will have Galileo support at Mar I guess.U can use Chinese MIUI forum to get access to it as early as possible.
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Since last week the GLONASS-network has worldwide coverage.
This is good news, as we now have another positioning network next to the GPS-network.
But even better news:
Yesterday Qualcomm revealed that (amongst others) the Desire HD has built-in support for the GLONASS-network, according to this page of Qualcomm's site:
Today we’re announcing wider support for GPS and GLONASS. Any device with a Snapdragon ™ S2 or S3 processor is capable of accessing both satellite networks.
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(For those not in the know, the DHD has an S2-processor).
When using GLONASS together with GPS one gets a more precise location, an accuracy of 2 meters instead of 10 meters.
Also one gets a faster fix on one's location and of course there's a higher reliability, with twice as many satellites to lock on to.
All-in-all good news
the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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Probably.
I'm not sure HTC will release an update (but who knows), but the ROM-cooks could probably get some stuff done?
desire hd owner bumping for intrest
I do wonder what they mean with 'Today we’re announcing wider support'?
Does it mean they're releasing some kind of drivers?
Any news?
I've just read this article http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/16/chips.will.leverage.both.us.and.russian.satellites/ where Qualcomm confirms presence of Glonass in S2 chips. MSM8255 is a S2 chip. So is it in use or not?
Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Android can even not know about glonass or GPS. Chip driver sends coordinates to OS API.
But I'd to know does the chip use both systems or just GPS?
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High End Device
After reading the OP post i can say that i'm kind of touched by the news. If we can realy taste the GLONASS technology, that means that we realy have a High End device. This means that can pass another year untill something realy new (I refer to technology build in) will make the difference between outdated and actuality.
PS: I will stick with my DHD just in case that something new about it will get revealed.
can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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I hope this helps.
radio-based satellite navigation system operated for the Russian government by the Russian Space Forces. It both complements and provides an alternative to the United States' Global Positioning System (GPS), the Chinese Compass navigation system and the planned Galileo positioning system of the European Union.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
This sounds awesome to me, now if i can truely find a better battery then i cant see me needing to upgrade my phone for a good while.
renehd2 said:
can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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GLONASS is a Russian acronym for Globalnaya navigatsionnaya sputnikovaya sistema or Global Navigation Satellite System. The satellites are operated by the Russian Space Forces.
http://goo.gl/DjF1I
Samsung already released a Glonass enabler application for Windows Phone Mango phones.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...ication-for-its-windows-phone-mango-handsets/
Anyone got anymore info on this? The Note sounds awesome at gettin GPS lock using glonass.
This is really good news but how do I know if it uses these satellites? Having support for it doesn't say it is really going to use it.
Which programs can use both navigation systems?
Afaik all.
Calculations are done by the chipset and it will also decide if/when activate Glonass or not.
Problem here seems we first need an "activation" of the feature by HTC....I also asked them on Facebook with no answer
Sony did it. Samsung did it. Come on.....Htc.....just tell right people what to do to have it enabled.....
Is there any way to get it ported across from something else?
^^ GPS ( Global Positioning System ) is a satellite constellation maintained by the US DoD for military and commercial use.. ( military users ofc have more rapid locks and more precision ,around 2,3 meters )
GLONASS on the other hand is its RUSSIAN rival , gps being american was more 'in' commercially while glonass lagged behind .. only recently has the russian govt made this tech available to comm users
comparing the two, GPS has better precision overall ( but GLONASS is catching up )
other countries are also deploying their own systems , like china's COMPASS ( in progress ) , EU's GALILEO ...
i wont be surprised if in the near future one has options to lock onto GPS,glonass and compass !!!
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hows it possible that one DHD fone can acquire fix frm both GPS and GLONASS ?
I just heard that Vulkan API is coming to mobile and it is supporting PowerVR chips like the one we have on the phone.
(PowerVR G6430). Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
If this is true just image the gigantic boost it will give to our phones! (just watch on Youtube or search on Google for more information about Vulkan API)
If Vulkan API is implemented at our phone it would be fantastic. Hope Asus will work on the API and make the best for our phone, let's see in a couple of months of so
Too good to be true man, too good to be true.
hi, I'm very interested in everything about vulkan since i could see some videos about it. But my knowledge about api, android and rom's is not that good, so i would thank you if i could get some answers.
1 - Is this implementation of API a work for ASUS or Intel?
2 - Since i saw that PowerVR Rogue has now SDK(i dont know what it is) for Vulkan, Is ANYONE able to make a custom rom that could use Vulkan?
3 - I've heard that Android N will have native support for Vulkan. Does it mean that if i download a custom rom, like a cyanogenmod, for Android N to my Zenfone 2 i will have the benefits of using Vulkan?
4 - Does anyone know if that Galasy S7 that had 135k+ on antutu was using Vulkan? Because my Zenfone 2 is a great phone and only scores 65k, it's scary to thing that a S7 should have more than the double of hardware capacity that my Zenfone has. I thing that should be because of vulkan, but i need to hear it from someone who knows what's talking.
I hope to get answers for this questions. Thank you all.
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)Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
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Sorry, that's not how ASUS usually manages fixes and updates. That would take time and money and we've already spent our money so they have nothing to gain, therefore nothing will happen. Only future customers are a priority for ASUS.
A happy ASUS customer is one with low expectations.
Well, at least It'd give Asus a good excuse for being so late...
Vulkan is something that would need to be implemented at the OS level on Android (mainly the kernel, no idea what other bits Google is including in the rest of the OS). And support for each hardware would need to be provided by the OEM or manufacturers. It MAY be possible for a custom ROM to implement Vulkan support in some fashion in a current version of Android (harder and more "impossible" things have been accomplished) but it's not likely due to too many technical challenges. Besides, it wouldn't happen until after Android N is released and the AOSP code is posted. Only then would someone attempt to backport Vulkan.
I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe that Vulkan support will be a requirement by Google for devices to run Android N. So if Asus does plan on upgrading the phones then they will need to include a kernel for the hardware that supports Vulkan and those drivers would come from Intel. So the chance of the Zenfone supporting Vulkan is 100%, provided Asus upgrades it to N.
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I just heard that Vulkan API is coming to mobile and it is supporting PowerVR chips like the one we have on the phone.
(PowerVR G6430). Some people say on the ZENTALK forum that that's why it takes so much freaking time for Asus to implement Marshmallow as they are busy incorporating the API on the phone.
If this is true just image the gigantic boost it will give to our phones! (just watch on Youtube or search on Google for more information about Vulkan API)
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So is the VULCAN API present in the M update?
Is Vulkan something like the Mantle for Desktops?
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Vulkan Drivers for Nexus Player
Google’s Android Image
As part of the Android N Developer Preview 2 release, Google released an Android N image for the Nexus Player that includes Vulkan drivers. You can find out more about the Android N Developer Preview here and can download the image here. As this image is officially supported by Google, we recommend using it for Vulkan Android development.
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https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/vulkan/
There is two possibilities:
1- Vulkan added in Android N's mainline code, and CM14 (maybe) will do this too.
2- Vulkan driver will be only in manufacters Android N's source. In this case, will be needed to be backported.
In both possibilites, isnt impossible to do it, even without Asus help. But would be awesome if some official MM give it to us (not in the first version, obviously).
Its GPU manufacturer job to implement vulkan, they provide the drivers to OEM manufacturer implement it on their otas. Nvidia already did that on latest MM update to shield TV and shield tablet.
Note 7 could connect to Galileo satellites, but what about S7? Is possible (technically) to connect to the new EU satellites? May Samsung will give us sw update?
I want to know that too
It is certainly possible on the S7/S7E with Snapdragon/Qualcomm chipset version (US) (But perhaps only a after a firmware upgrade - I don't have one to test).
What I'd like to know is about the S7/S7E version with the Exynos chipset. Found nothing about it and am starting to think it won't be supported (which would be ironic as it is the model sold in the EU, there Galileo originated).
I have an Exynos and it does not seem able to see any Galileo satellite, although it hasn't had any update lately.
Note 7 has (or had...) Exynos 8890 chip and Galileo support. S7 edge has Exynos 8890 too so in theory Galileo should work in S7 edge but most likely requires sw update.
Hi everyone.
Galileo started offering Early Operational Capability (EOC) on 15 December 2016 and is expected to reach Full Operational Capability (FOC) in 2019
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So while the S7 has the ability to connect, that doesnt mean you will be able use it straight away. I would expect your ability to use it to be very random over the next 3 years as they continue to scale up the system.
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo_begins_serving_the_globe
What would improve?
Firstly, i want to distinguish between different systems. Whilst we (the public) say GPS to refer to all the systems as a whole, GPS is really the American NAVSTAR GPS system. For this post, GPS will refer to the American system.
The first improvement will be precision. The resolution is alot better. GPS is 5m whereas Galileo is 1m (note: GPS can do 1m precision but this is restricted to the US military)
Second improvement is reliability. GPS has been running since 1974 and so the satellites are going to start failing. Whilst they are likely to be replaced, priority is always given to the US military and third party use can be cut at anytime (just ask the Indians in 1999!)
Lastly is the nature of the system. As mentioned, GPS is a US military system and therefore use could be denied (war for example). The Galileo system however is primarily designed for emergencies such as search and rescue and natural disasters. Whilst politics of the EU could disrupt access, its more likely Donald Trump will cut access of GPS unless you pay for it than the EU doing so!
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo/What_is_Galileo
Hi, news about Galileo and Galaxy S7/S7 edge (EU version-Exynos) with Android 7 ?
Can Galaxy S7 operate with Galileo?
If Note 7 is/was confirmed to support Galileo, then it would, in theory, be possible for Dev's to create a MOD to enable it on S7/S7 Edge with Exynos 8890; is it?
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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what type of s7 edge you are using?
and what ROM you are using?
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
ghbuur said:
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
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exynos or snapdragon?
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exynos or snapdragon?
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exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
ghbuur said:
exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
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hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
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hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
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no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
ghbuur said:
no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
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are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
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are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
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yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
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philippines? i cannot imagine, should be worldwide like the russian and chinese "gps" too. let's see if the new rom helps..
Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?
According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
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Hello,
Is the nexus 6p compatible with galileu gps system?
Or is it possible that in a near future becames compatible?
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According to Qualcomm, SnapDragon 810 is not compatible, while 2016 processors (820/821 ...) it is.
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I'm a little bit confused, because I've read this on another website:
According to Qualcomms website the Snapdragon 810 (like in my Nexus 6P) should support Galileo. But no doubt they'll refuse to release the necessary driver or code so people have to upgrade to a newer phone if they want it.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...cessor-powers-premium-tier-mobile-experiences
Galileo and Gps uses the same frequency for L1 band so on hardware side it should be OK. Now for the proprietary drivers is another story..
Are there other receivers already giving good positionning? Last time I check there weren't all spacracfts launched ? They had stability problems on their clocks.
Are they any news on snapdragon 810 support for galileo? It will be possible to make it work? too bad that Qualcomm says first it supports galileo and then only new processors will support it.
If there is not a problem with hardware I am pretty sure someone can force them as they advertise 810 as galileo supported. Usually what you advertise you must bring to buyers.
Does the Axon 7 support ANT+ ?
I've seen a few forum posts mention it, but it's not listed in the specs.
I would assume so since there is a driver installed called "ANT HAL Service 4.0.0" if you look through the system apps. And would it really be a separate chip? I would assume it's part of the Snapdragon 820 SoC, radio related things tend to be on the SoC. So if one Snapdragon XYZ phone has ANT support, all SD XYZ phones should. Unless I'm wrong and it is actually a discrete chip.
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Does the Axon 7 support ANT+ ?
I've seen a few forum posts mention it, but it's not listed in the specs.
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well if some people said that LineageOS broke it, it should be working on stock, right?
Yes, it does. I use it regularly.