So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
Been wondering the exact same thing since I got the phone last night!
Waiting on an answer for this lol.
Ogre6473 said:
So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
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biglilsteve said:
Been wondering the exact same thing since I got the phone last night!
Waiting on an answer for this lol.
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Same here, got it yesterday and at night or dark places for some reason I thought it will automatically light up, but not...
Ok, that makes 4 of us, Lol.... I have NO IDEA what that is for either, and don't see anything different with it on or off?
It may be an unused option for this model but intended for use with the 6gb model that had true capacitive keys. The keys on this model were a last minute addition.
Is it possible to have it work with an update?
Seeing as how the capacitive keys were a last minute addition and the device lacks the hardware to light up, I doubt it.
That is, if that is what the option is even for.
They are painted on, do not light up, there are no lights underneath it to make it light up!
I guess if it is true that other models will be getting the backlit capacitive buttons, then that might make me wait to get another model (hopefully with similar band-support as the NA model) and then trying to unlock the bootloader to get some legit English-based ROM like CM on it.
One can dream, right?
... if not... then these little (but significant) corner cutting issues are going to kill this phone for me unfortunately
Ogre6473 said:
So there's a menu entry under the display menu for keypad lighting, but flipping the toggle seems to do nothing and there's no mention in the manual. So is this for non existent backlighting for the capacitive buttons at the bottom?
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I don't see this option. Can you share a screenshot?
thegendler said:
I don't see this option. Can you share a screenshot?
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It went away after an update or two. Turns out it was some old code from the Chinese version which does have backlit buttons.
Ogre6473 said:
It went away after an update or two. Turns out it was some old code from the Chinese version which does have backlit buttons.
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I'm amazed that they even removed them in the first place... If they weren't going to remove the bezel where the buttons were, why would they remove the buttons?
Just an alternative software buttons:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appspot.app58us.backkey
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I have read a lot about the capacitive buttons on N1 being a little faulty.... it responds only when clicked on the upper half of the button... Just wondering if some developer here already found a fix for that...
If not, then is this a hardware limitation or some software glitch?
I think it's a hardware limitation. Once you get used to it it's just fine, but I agree it bothers me sometimes to have to touch it twice.
Some ROMs keep adding and removing the capacitive fix.
I dont see a problem.
You have to accept that they are different buttons.
-> On the screen I tab softly..
-> The cap.buttons, I hold my finger... (never tab it)
When you forget this, you tab on them like on your screen icons and you got to tab more times and start worrying about them...
I believe the capacitive button bug was fixed with google official OTA update.
I clearly had it before (had to hit on the upper part of the buttons) and now it's gone since the update
You can fix it? Mine is still like before.
waanz said:
I believe the capacitive button bug was fixed with google official OTA update.
I clearly had it before (had to hit on the upper part of the buttons) and now it's gone since the update
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are you serious ???
Yea mine are fixed too on cyan's latest.
faraz1992 said:
I have read a lot about the capacitive buttons on N1 being a little faulty.... it responds only when clicked on the upper half of the button... Just wondering if some developer here already found a fix for that...
If not, then is this a hardware limitation or some software glitch?
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They work fine if you just aim a tad high on the button. You adjust quickly.
What about the "area expansion fix"??
I have just upgraded to 2.2.. It still has problems with only the top half of the soft buttons being sensitive. I have also noticed that unless I'm holding the phone or touching the metal casing the buttons don't really work at all. It seems like a hardware issue. Although I do have thick skin from playing the guitar and rockclimbing. So I'm probably not as capacitive as the avarage user. Just wondering if anyone else has the same problems or even a fix?
Yeah I have to hit the upper part of the button as well. I would be interested in finding a fix for this too....
I'm running the stock OTA 2.2.1 rom right now if that helps any.
There is no fix, and the problem exists for all N1s ever produced. Hit the buttons on their top side.
I disagree, I hit mine bang on the graphic. Originally I did have to use the top but an update did fix it.
yeah there is no software fix for this its a hardware issue, i have to press mine on the top half, its never really bothered me though because most of the time i use my thumb and its so large it never misses the buttons hehe
i'd be curious to know though if the ones claiming that its fixed on their N1's how old their N1's are the newer ones may have a different touchscreen that had this issue fixed if its even possible to fix, if you look at the width of the screen border at the sides that is about equal to distance of the dead zone at the bottom of the glass so my guess is its by design and they may not have even been able to make that area of the glass touch sensitive due to how close to the edge of the glass it is
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I disagree, I hit mine bang on the graphic. Originally I did have to use the top but an update did fix it.
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try to press them at the lower half only pressing on the graphic works fine on my N1 most of the time, pressing right above the graphic always works. if i try with my index finger to press the lower part of any of the graphics it never works.
Anyone on cyanogen vouch for it being a software issue.
It's not software. I've had 2 N1's, and both do this.
I've disassembled one of the N1's about 10 times, and I've seen the under-side of those capacitive buttons. The part that detects the finger is really small. Probably 1cmx1cm box. And it's naturally placed a tad bit above the actual icon on the capacitive button. Just hit the button with your entire finger, not just the tip, and it will be fine.
Or keep crying about it. It's not ever going to be fixed. It's the way the phone was manufactured.
Frito11 said:
try to press them at the lower half only pressing on the graphic works fine on my N1 most of the time, pressing right above the graphic always works. if i try with my index finger to press the lower part of any of the graphics it never works.
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Yeah lower portion is no-go, but dead center is bang on each time.
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Yeah lower portion is no-go, but dead center is bang on each time.
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Same here no problem at all on the graphic
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I just read yet another review of the Epic where one of the reasons they talked sh!t about the EPIC was because of the bottom buttons don't stay lit the entire time the screen is on. This is a SUPER easy fix.... should anyone want to change this, it will take 10 seconds tops:
Goto settings > sound&display > keyboard timeout and change it to "Same as Screen timeout"
BAM! Problem solved. I almost wish Samsung had done this from the factory as the default. Oh well.
'tuna
thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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Great! Glad someone could use the info...
Thanks so much, i would have never guessed that as setting for the hardware keyboard would effect the capacitive buttons!
Thanks
Thanks, added to my blog and tips for Epic page I'm just starting on..
http://www.bitshop.com/Tips/SamsungEpic4gbySprint/tabid/132/Default.aspx
Beautifully simple,
Steve
It's seriously stupid that they didn't put a non-lighting image on the front of these. They could have had the stenciled outline of the buttons there so they were visible even when not lit up.
Woot. Nice find spiicy. That just made the Epic a little more Epic
Oooo much appreciated
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Yeah thanks for sure! I also had no idea that these capactive touch buttons would be tied to the keyboard. I had my keyboard timeout set to like 3 seconds, because once I start typing I dont need to see anymore usually. That explains why those buttons wouldnt stay lit for long enough!
Cheers!
glad i found this thread! thanks again.
OMG I can't believe people didn't know this by now...
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
yeah i did this the first day i got my epic since i heard so many complaints about it before hand, lls, its funny how people can cry about it and not even look through the settings
Ok, just pointing out this isn't strictly true. Doing as the OP suggests keeps the buttons lit as long as a touch action keeps the screen alive, the button lights will still time-out before the screen for any other actions that keep the screen on. Like e-book readers, video player, games, extended typing in any app, timers, alarm clocks, etc (in cases where touching the screen isn't required).
What's odd is that the buttons aren't tied to either the screen or the keyboard. Since I'm used to where they are now I'd rather just have an option to keep those lights always off.
Battery Usage
Does anyone know how much battery usage the keyboard light consumes?
Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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+1 internets for you. Quick, patent it too.
I totally agree on that screen protector idea, even though the second before you even posted some asian probably stole it and already has a patent for it somehow.
All in all though, IDK How much of a battery impact the hardware keyboard would use being on all the time, but to be honest, now that I've had the phone for a week+, I don't really need to know where they are, I already have it memorized. So I just said the hell with it and put my keyboard backlight back to 3 seconds again.
I just noticed the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the phone are not lighting up. Is there a setting for this or does my phone have a glitch?
If purchased online can it be swapped at a Tmobile store?
The phone hasn't been rooted yet.
There is no capacitive touch buttons on MT4G
Picasosz said:
There are no capacitive touch buttons on MT4G
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There ya go, fixed that for you!
dafish69 said:
I just noticed the capacitive buttons on the bottom of the phone are not lighting up. Is there a setting for this or does my phone have a glitch?
If purchased online can it be swapped at a Tmobile store?
The phone hasn't been rooted yet.
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You probably came from the Vibrant with its capacitive buttons with their lights that always turn on. On the mt4g, they only turn on when it's dark enough to need them.
My bad on the capacitive thing. The buttons never light up though, even in the dark.
Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
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Does anyone find it annoying that the bootom back, home and search keys do not stay lit up?
I've been looking for a setting that would at least allow it to be dimmed but thats been a no go. I just find it hard to find the buttons with no visual cue nor any physical at that, It almost feels as if Im guessing the location.
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Mine don't stay lit up. But coming from a Samsung Fascinate which also has lighting time-out issues, I just sort of waved my hands at it...
They will light back up once you touch one, so you could just run your finger over the search key since that has the least chance of knocking you out of wherever you are...
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
KonAitor said:
I never have problems finding the buttons at night. I actually like that they turn off. Makes the phone look cleaner if your using it in the dark.
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Agree, I've not had an issue finding them when not lit either. Doesn't bother me at all.
The keys lot staying lit is a Samsung thing. They do the same on the Galaxy S phones like the Epic, Captivate. It was annoying on those phones and yes it is annoying on this phone as well. Yes I agree they should be lit all on the time.
-McMex
They are spaced far enough apart so being lit isn't that big of deal for me but I wouldn't mind seeing them lit.
I like that they aren't lit all the time.
Hello aslamoalikim
I have been using the one for few weeks now coming from Samsung note 2 I noticed one screen is less senstive
Sometime I have to press twice or thrice for a function especially back or home button
Is it just me or can I tweak settings?
lost_odeassy1 said:
Hello aslamoalikim
I have been using the one for few weeks now coming from Samsung note 2 I noticed one screen is less senstive
Sometime I have to press twice or thrice for a function especially back or home button
Is it just me or can I tweak settings?
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The back and home buttons aren't the screen, but yes some people say that the touch area for those buttons is too small. Nothing can be done yet
AW: Htc one screen touch sensitivity
MacHackz said:
The back and home buttons aren't the screen....
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Sure? normally the buttons are kernel defined in digitizer
deagleone said:
Sure? normally the buttons are kernel defined in digitizer
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I Am seeing this more of an issue, even on the screen itself,
HTC one seems to have a lag on whole screen?
lost_odeassy1 said:
I Am seeing this more of an issue, even on the screen itself,
HTC one seems to have a lag on whole screen?
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Send it back then cos mine doesn't have anything like it(lag, double touches etc)
The back and home touch areas are quite small but once you get used to it it's a non problem.
mine doesnt have any 'Lag' issues on the screen, infact i find the sensitivity better and more responsive than my 'One X'. However, your right, the capacative touch buttons 'Home and Back' have a small touch area and i feel that i do have to be quite precise when touching them, which in fact i feel is better, because when i was in an app or something on my 'One X' i found that it was so easy to accidently touch one and come out or back to the home screen.