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Joying Rk3188 Head unit Questions

I've tried searching and couldn't find any concrete answers (probably tapatalks fault) to the following problems. What is the voltage on the audio preouts(RCA's)? I just installed the JY version yesterday and noticed my volume has greatly decreased from the OEM unit with an active Line out converter. I'm thinking its the preouts voltage. The second question has anyone been successful at getting torque or Carista to work? I have a BT ELM 327 adapter that I've had for years and it has worked with all other android with out a problem. It does not even show up in Bluetooth devices. The third question is on cars with a can-bus system. I have this installed in as 2011 VW CC, is there anyway to get song information to show up with a music app other than the stock music player? I'm not too fond of the JY music interface. I'm currently running Malaysk's ROM and darkleo's MCU v2.59
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Acampbell said:
I've tried searching and couldn't find any concrete answers (probably tapatalks fault) to the following problems. What is the voltage on the audio preouts(RCA's)? I just installed the JY version yesterday and noticed my volume has greatly decreased from the OEM unit with an active Line out converter. I'm thinking its the preouts voltage. The second question has anyone been successful at getting torque or Carista to work? I have a BT ELM 327 adapter that I've had for years and it has worked with all other android with out a problem. It does not even show up in Bluetooth devices. The third question is on cars with a can-bus system. I have this installed in as 2011 VW CC, is there anyway to get song information to show up with a music app other than the stock music player? I'm not too fond of the JY music interface. I'm currently running Malaysk's ROM and darkleo's MCU v2.59
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I just installed one of these in my 2004 silverado. Since you were using a line out converter, I"m assuming you have an amp inline. I had the exact same problem until I figured out the gain had to be turned up on the amp. For whatever reason, with the factory setup, it required very little power from the amp. Now the gain is probably 75%+ up on the amp with the rk3188.
Not sure about the Elm 327. I'd assume it works because they sell it on the ebay store and advertise it as an accessory.
I'd like a different radio app, this one is ugly.

I had the gain turned up 85%, tried using a line driver which worked but introduced a lot of noise into my system, I ended up putting the line out converter back in and that seemed to take care it. The issue is the rca preouts are putting out about half a volt vs the 2 volts they advertise. As for the Obd reader i was able to get it to work since i posted here, its just a pain to set up every time .

GPS Audio Mixing
I have a question about the GPS audio mixing on a Joying RK3188 unit. In the GPS settings I have mixing enabled and the ratio set to 10. When listening to Pandora, the GPS audio (turn by turn voice) is fine and at a good level. However, when listening to the radio the GPS audio is very low, almost cant hear it at all. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
Thanks for your help...
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I too have the problem with the GPS sound being low when listening to the radio! Have you solved that???

Mixing should be set at 10 and the gps volume should be also increased within the app and works fine for me.
But the only problem is if I don't have music playing I get scared because the gps volume is super loud! Lol

There's a big difference in listening to Radio or music at the same time as you use gps.
I spoke to joying today and it might be solved in one of the next updates, because it is a fault in their setup.

Hello... May i ask the the pro's and con's and first impressions of your Joying car radios, and how long you have those units in your car?
Thanks.

I just got mine monday this week. Had some issues but almost fixed it all. Great unit but looking forward to an update that i spoke about further up in the thread. So thumbs up from me.

Have you guys tried going into Factory Settings (code is 126) and seeing if the volumes are set all the way up?

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Have you guys tried going into Factory Settings (code is 126) and seeing if the volumes are set all the way up?
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I raised the radio volume from default 10 to 15. Any higher and the increments of the volume was too much.
But that doesn't help the gps volume.
I'm still using the 2014 iGo and they recently gave me the 2015 updates which I haven't installed yet.
The only problem I have is that the only way to adjust the volume in the iGo is by multiple steps of going through the settings which is not ideal when your driving.
I had another iGo in another Headunit and the volume was adjustable via the quick menu.

o2sys said:
I raised the radio volume from default 10 to 15. Any higher and the increments of the volume was too much.
But that doesn't help the gps volume.
I'm still using the 2014 iGo and they recently gave me the 2015 updates which I haven't installed yet.
The only problem I have is that the only way to adjust the volume in the iGo is by multiple steps of going through the settings which is not ideal when your driving.
I had another iGo in another Headunit and the volume was adjustable via the quick menu.
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On my unit I had radio volume and a gps volume in the factory settings? However I haven't messed with them. My radio goes loud enough to make my Infiniti Kappa's distort so I don't have any reason to bother with it. Funny thing is the volume number at max usable volume is almost the identical number to what it was for my stock radio. It's possible that what I'm hearing is the internal amp just not having enough power to go louder but it's plenty enough noise and the quality is just fine as long as you're not on FM lol.

Good Morning,
i have the same Problems on my Joying Head Unit for my Skoda.
On MP3 (Mediaplayer) or Radio the Soundlevel deviate to much.

Steering wheel controls for Non-Native Apps.
Has anyone found a way to enable the steering wheel controls (namely next and previous functions) to work on any music app or media app? My steering wheel next and previous buttons have been programmed on the head unit and work only with the native music app. I know there are apps out there like CarService that allow you to control another music apps but I want to be able to control any music app or media app with next and previous functions without having to jump through hoops to do it; Simply turn the unit on, open music/media app of choice and control the next and previous functions from steering wheel controller. Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
Joying Head Unit
Android 4.4.4 Rooted
Quad Core RK3188 Chip.

I got TTS to work with Igo to pronounce street name but the GPS audio mixing/switching does not work. Music and GPS voice still sound at the same level, no fade or switching. Has anyone have that issue with TTS?

o2sys said:
I raised the radio volume from default 10 to 15. Any higher and the increments of the volume was too much.
But that doesn't help the gps volume.
I'm still using the 2014 iGo and they recently gave me the 2015 updates which I haven't installed yet.
The only problem I have is that the only way to adjust the volume in the iGo is by multiple steps of going through the settings which is not ideal when your driving.
I had another iGo in another Headunit and the volume was adjustable via the quick menu.
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Hey, on the page reduce the volume of radio from 10 to 1 or 2 or 0. Then try. I reduced that value to 2 or so. Now it seems to be Okay. But I wanted to use my Sygic license. But I am having some problems with downloading maps. So once I download the map, i will move to Sygic instead of iGO.

Is it possible to adjust the "ruler" in the backup camera? So you can size it properly to the actual width of your vehicle?

No you can't.

power control and OBDII bluetooth
I have two questions about the Joying RK3188,
Does the unit automatically wake and sleep when the key is turned on and off, or must one turn the power on and off manually?
Is it compatible with BAFX Products 34T5 Bluetooth OBDII scan tool for android devices?
Thanks,
Dave

astronomerdave said:
I have two questions about the Joying RK3188,
Does the unit automatically wake and sleep when the key is turned on and off, or must one turn the power on and off manually?
Is it compatible with BAFX Products 34T5 Bluetooth OBDII scan tool for android devices?
Thanks,
Dave
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1. It turns on automatically on/off with the cars ignition just like any aftermarket radio. You can also set the delay off so if you shut off your car and restart right away there is no boot time.
2. I've used it with PLX Kiwi II OBDii scanner with no problem. It will recognize just about any Bluetooth device.

Pumpkin RQ0253?

Hello, I've recently purchased a new head unit from Pumpkin (RQ0253) and was wondering if anyone else had experience with this unit in terms of custom roms/rooting? I'm looking to possibly install a Malaysk rom. Any advice is appreciated. Specs below:
OS: Android 4.4 Kit Kat
CPU: RK3188 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz
RAM: DDR3 2GB
Screen Resolution: 1024*600
MCU: 5703-20160222-135414-V01

Hi!
If i'm right you're talking about this device: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-universal-7-inch-1024-600-touchscreen-quad-core-android-4-4-head-unit-2-din-with-2gb-ram-32gb-nand-memory-support-screen-lock-av-output-gps-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
I'm wondering how is the audio quality of this device?
Thank you

I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.

zzEvilGeniuszz said:
I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.
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Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR

dima_vy said:
Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.

halloj said:
I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.
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Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR

dima_vy said:
Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR
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So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android

dima_vy said:
So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android
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Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.

halloj said:
Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.
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Pioneer doesn't have android unit. The only way is to connect the phone with the cable, and i hate cables in the car Regarding the BT - yep, sounds like a problem...

dima_vy said:
Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.

zzEvilGeniuszz said:
If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.
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I'd like☺, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?

dima_vy said:
I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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I thought the same way until I actually spent the money for one. They are not reliable. The Android OS on them are dinosaurs. Constant crashes. If you do not upload a custom rom the crashes will only get worse.
My advice, get the pioneer Android auto unit (dont know exact model) and have it mirror your phone. Then run waze and whatever off your phone instead.

dima_vy said:
I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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Well, Blaupunkt does.

halloj said:
Well, Blaupunkt does.
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Thanx! Looks interesting, but as i see i doesn't have google apps, so there is a problem to install applications... At list out of the box... I think that better way is to wait till someone else will start with Android based device. like Sony doing with TV...

did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM

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did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM
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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.

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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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i would like to see pics if you get the chance

I got this unit, too. I flashed joying update file and now it doesn't get pass the android logo. On top that, when I boot into recovery, unable to load. I'm sending this unit back and will be getting Carjoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuOQByUfTI

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i would like to see pics if you get the chance
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Okay, some impressions:
Pros:
- Device is fast. It lags a bit only during software update, as any android does
- Screen is bright. Map and navigation are clearly visible under direct sunlight right into the screen.
- Surprisingly usable pre-installed offline navigation (iGO). Interface is ugly, but in general it is ok
- 32 gig is a lot of space. SD card is needed only for music
- Sound via bluetooth is good
Cons:
- Bluetooth is limited by regular speakers/headset. I cannot connect any device to the head unit, I can only cast music and phone calls from my phone and that's all. Android just doesn't see any bluetooth adapter in the system. I can make calls using special application, sound from the phone just play when it's connected. Only one phone can be connected at the same time.
- Internal sound is very bad. I'm not an audiophile, but I've tried to play the same song from the soundcloud app from my phone via bluetooth and then from the head directly. I will probably never play music from the head unit, it is awful. Same for music from files on flash drives/sd card
- Screen frame is quite high, so I can't see some google maps interface elements (miles to next turn, top left corner)
- There's 2 mm gap between the unit and my Nissan's dash cover in the bottom. I will handle this later.
- Bad screen sensitivity in the lower part of the screen, some Ok/Cancel buttons are not responsive while installing software. Maybe, because of android lags. In the maps application touchscreen works fine everywhere.
- Android 4.4 interface is ugly to me. I'd prefer 5.
Conclusion: DO NOT BUY IT, unless you know what you are doing. Limited bluetooth looks a deal breaker to me. None of my 2 bluetooth adapters worked with the android. And without full-featured bluetooth I can't connect OBD2 and set up screen mirroring.
I'll try to send it back, but it might be too expensive and not worth it. Anyway, I keep searching for unit with good sound and full featured bluetooth (and bigger screen resolution, but I haven't seen such units so far)
I haven't attached rear camera yet. I will update this post as soon as I do.
Some pics I made (There's more of them, but I cannot attach links yet, you can add this to photos.google.com, sorry for inconvenience /share/AF1QipMkaPjBvN0gqef5SaFPDg6Br1xbnD1f1sstcIQLxlawDkqPAKsWE5ZQ3tJ1b-0F0g?key=M2NJd3FDQTFIMnBfRGF5c05RUEt3bXdKZGlMRzhn):
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Are wondefoo head units any good?

I have been looking at getting a wondefoo android head unit for my Toyota Sienna. It looks like it has good specs (PX5 chipset, 4gb ram, 32gb storage) and the seller has quite a big selection of HU's on aliexpress for different cars but I can't find that many reviews of wondefoo units as compared to xtrons or seicane. Have any of you tried one of their units before and if so how was it?

I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.

tjhayko said:
I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.7eea57f6z1pbG2
I have this one from youmecity on aliexpress and find it to be superior in every way.. My previous one, the one that you are looking at, did not really have Android 8, it was Android 6, hacked to appear as 8. This one is also cheaper and ships free. Got mine in less than a week. Also their customer service is outstanding - they respond same day . I have had several of these Asian units and this is the first one that has been trouble free and is really acceptable, to me.
It also supports an external USB HD of up to 500MB. I have a Samsung 500GB SSD behind the dash and it works fine. I have no complaints and it has been in use since 1-1-2018.

thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...

tjhayko said:
thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...
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You could install malaysk rom on that system because it has an sd card slot, which should definitely get you android 8 as far as I know All the systems for the Sienna don't have a sd card slot so unless theres a way to install malaysk rom with usb or an adapter I'm gonna be stuck with the factory firmware.

I have ordered one of these with 4GB RAM and 16GB flash. I will keep everyone posted after it shows up.
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My head unit showed up yesterday, and I opened it today. It looks to be of reasonable quality, other than the word phone being misspelled on the button (lol). However, I've taken a look at the pinouts listed on the sticker on the top of the unit, and it appears the wiring harness is missing the wires for Canbus. Am I correct to assume that these would be the wires for steering wheel audio controls? I don't have them in my car, but I was considering adding one of the aftermarket ones.
Here's a link to photo with of the back of harness, front of the harness and pinouts on the unit:
back of harness
front of harness
pinouts
Is there a way I could wire them up myself?

I have one in my Alfa Romeo 159 with Malaysk 8.0 Rom installed. All ok, working pretty good.

Ah, I've realized that steering wheel remotes use the Key1 and Key2 lines. What's the best way to tap into these the wires in the harness?

Does anybody know where I should tap into wires for the following connections? They are on my harness, but I'm not sure where to connect them:
Amp-con - amplifier control
Ant
Tv-ir = ?
Back-car - reverse signal
Auto-ant - auto antenna power
Brake-ctl - hand break signal

Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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Haven't had any trouble with WIFi
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Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.

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Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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the Bluetooth isn't working either. I suspect I've gotten defective unit. I'm following up with the seller.

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I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.
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Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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tjhayko said:
Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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The seller says the wifi board (chip?) maybe unseated and is going to send me a video showing how to reset it. I hope that this is the problem and I can fix it.
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Well, I finally got a chance to get the head unit out of my car today to try to reseat the board, and it appears to have worked. I'm surprised because it really didn't feel out of place at all, but it seems to be working fine now.

well, the Wifi failed again, so I tried the same thing, and it now appears that the screen is messed up. I've done a quick check of the ribbon cables connecting the screen to boards, and nothing seems out of place. Here's a photo of the screen now
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/R...oH3OjNrPum2T2aVJdLnKcbMyoyYsyPQ=w1152-h679-no
Any idea how what I might have done?

DO NOT TRUST THIS SELLER. It looks like a frauder. I paid a navigation and after 1 mount the item is not even shipped. Now i am trying to get my moeny back.

Hey guys!
Been looking at a lot of android units, but have narrowed it down to two, one being a Wondefoo. The listing says the mic won't work with 'OK Google' etc. only for Bluetooth. Can anyone confirm? Is this the case with all android units?
Thanks in advance.

Currently the BEST 2020 android head units?

Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VHD4B23/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have one of the Podofo 7" 1x16 android 10 2020 versions. Screen looks the same but there are more connectors on the rear. It is much faster. Noticably to the touch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKBQ1X5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are there some better units out there right now I should be looking at?
Really want a DUAL din and able to load offline maps to if for BackCountry Navigator, Google Maps, and a couple others. Maybe use one of my external USB Drives for music videos, music, and other movies.
I just modified the dash of a Discovery 1 to fit a dual din. Now I want a large screen to fit in there to utilize the space I made.
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They are all botched/buggy in someway, but it's not easy to know who makes these units and what they are just from the reseller verbiage.

Like the previous poster says. Pretty much every android head unit has issues. Each one is a different set of issues. Nobody out there seems to be doing proper reviews on these that focus on what does and doesn't work.
I've been through four so far. Every one has issues.
So I tried to switch to a Pioneer and guess what, it has issues too. I'm disgusted with the whole car audio industry. All I want is what's on my phone to be on my dash, without having to whip my phone out of my pocket and wire it up every time I go for a drive.
Apparently that's asking too much of the industry.
Fwiw the features I need/want are:
1. Supports modern digital steering wheel controls (they all seem to only support analog SWC which nobody has)
2. Either have a proper bluetooth phone feature with voice commands and quality audio OR trigger when it detects incoming audio on the aux in from my cars built in bluetooth (currently the best option I've found is I have to tap aux in every time I receive a call)
3. Pair and STAY paired with bluetooth OBD dongle for dashboard data logging. So far not a single one has been able to do this reliably, they tend to disconnect randomly and require constant re-pairing. Best if it supports newer profiles of dongles like the OBDLink which has a faster refresh rate, but so far only one of the four I've tried does that, and it requires repairing every bootup.
4. Have a screen DPI thay doesn't freak out common apps. Some of my apps don't work because of screen DPI issues on some devices.
5. Don't randomly reboot, 2 of the 4 devices I've used have this issue.
6. "Dancing" Gps or GPS that can't get a lock. One device I used the GPS jumps around randomly, the other can't even get a signal half the time.
7. Static/noise/audio problems. One has a hiss, one had loud static when no audio was playing, and another the audio would randomly cut out.
Dunno what I'm gonna do next.

skygear said:
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
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I'll tell ya.... I'm on my third android head unit (all Dasaita's) and I have not had one yet which produces good clean sound without a low grade white noise (the noise which you are describing). The Dasaita I have now in fact is top of the line... cost $700US and it has the same low grade white noise the rest of them do.
I love these android head units for what you describe.... large screen, good off line maps display, engine data display... yadda yadda. They make really great overall information centers, but they ALL seem to just suck for good clean sound.
At this point I'm really considering running two head units, a double din dasaita with a 10" screen for my information center, tv, videos... etc, and a smaller single din Pioneer or Kenwood for all the audio, and the bluetooth phone connection. This is the only answer that I can see if you want to run an android head unit.... and have clean sound at the same time.

I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for Environmental controls or steering wheel interface? Wherever these are originating from, they are not including all the features with them. Might put an amplifier on these and see how they perform. The audio isn't the best..
Main issue I had was the Binize keyboard wouldn't show up. I had to factory reset the device to enable it. I am beta testing Android 11 on my Note 20 Ultra 5g. Had NO issues with it until I paired it with this radio. No keyboard would show on my phone either. then the screen froze on my phone. Next, my storage corrupted/ disappeared, then reappeared and the phone reindexed everything so all my media (photos, video, etc. ) is all out of order now since it re scanned.
I'm thinking a USB drive with all the content might be the way to go. But are these really limited to just 32gb external storage? Shouldn't these be able to read ANY external storage formatted properly?

skygear said:
I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for
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The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.

Bob_Sanders said:
The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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skygear said:
Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
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It's not ground loop noise so ground isolators wouldn't do much. This is a low grade white noise like what you would hear from an FM radio when not on a station. Both my PX5 and PX6 have it. It's not very loud... but it's there.

Ownice or Teyes android 10 car multimedia?

Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.

ivosto said:
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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"Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice."
Neither of these are Android Auto.

I like the quick charger USB, ambient light control and IPS screen of Ownice. Plus, it does have Android Auto and CarPlay but you need to pay extra cost.

I normally don't answer these kind of topics as it is a never ending story, but maybe I or others can use it to copy around in likewise questions.
They are more or less the same when it comes to the software. They are FYT based and have support for the several versions of hardware.
But anyway, for all units be it FYT based, MTCx, TSx, AC8227, etc., etc., FIRST compare the hardware:
Check whether the screen is TFT/IPS/QLED (in increasing quality=readability). Go for nothing less than 1280x720 (1024x600 is not good enough anymore, but in the end it is up to you).
Check which FM-chip (from low to high):
TDA7786x or Philips (NXP) TEF6851 => budget chip without RDS.
TDA7708x => middle segment but good enough
Philips (NXP) TEF6686 => top FM chip
Check which audio chip (low to high):
TDA7388 -> budget, not good.
TDA7850/TDA7851: Both good. 7851 has slightly less power output with slightly less heat dissipation. Less chance of overheating. The TDA7851 has almost everywhere been replaced with the TDA7838, which should be identical in quality/performance (no idea, google around)
DSP: nowadays mostly ROHM BU32107. (Earlier ADAU chips are not so good but seem only to be used in MTCx units.)
CPU (fast to slow): UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512), SC9853i and PX6, PX5 AC8257, PX30, AC8237 and PX3.
This order is a bit discussable, but the uis7862 is definitely the fastest currently.
Memory: minimal 2GB, 4GB is fine. Some prefer 6GB but that is actually not necessary.
Now back to the FYT models you are mentioning. They are more or less comparable. It "seems" T'eyes support is better, but I leave that to the owners (Don't want to start a flame here )
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice.
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What? Android Auto?
You are going to buy such an expensive high-power full-fledged full functional Android unit and use it as a cheap emulator for the restricted Android Auto?????
I really, really don't understand these kind of arguments. If you want to use Android Auto, for which you indeed sometimes need to pay separately, then choose a cheap unit which supports this as well.

ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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Android Auto is crap
When people think about buying these android head units I don't think they quite get the idea that these are pretty much full-on android tablets complete with their own android operating system. There really is no need to run android auto. Things like spotify.... youtube... siriusxm... etc... can be downloaded from the google playstore and run directly from the head unit itself. All you need to do is supply a wifi hotspot from your phone, or fit the head unit with its own 4g card.

Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!

ivosto said:
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
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I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.

Bob_Sanders said:
I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
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Bixby is Samsung only.
You can also use Tasker/MacroDroid/Automagic/Automate/etc. to do what you do what @Bob_Sanders is doing with BixBy.
When you switch on the unit it connects via BT to your phone. That triggers MacroDroid/Tasker on your phone for that BT device (the unit) to switch on the hotspot, which the car unit on its turn then automatically connects to.
And when you switch off the car/unit, your BT connection is broken and the phone hotspot is stopped.
Works all the time for me.

Wow!
The Ownice has a HUGE array of inputs/outputs on top of the normal ones... pretty impressive
Dual sub outputs
HDMI output
Quick charge usb
two rca video outputs
Atmosphere lighting control
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