Database Users

A little worried on Available RAM

We know the Adreno 330 takes a lot of RAM, it says in this video only 2440mb of ram is available.
That doesn't shock me. What shocks me is after the guys is running the video and in the screen shot it says available ram.
Note 2 610mb available :good:
Note 3 270mb available!!!
Link to video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vVjzmk-mw
What do you guys think? Will this be an issue?
My htc one X has more available RAM than that! and its horrible at multitasking :crying:

That's shocking where is all the ram gone looks like little pacman inside the phone has been busy crunching all those megs of ram ouch.

Yep !
Same problem here. I think that we'll need to wait the root for the N3 to clean up trash apps.

No need to worry.
I made a thread about it since I saw a screenshot of CPU-Z stating that were only 14% of free memory.
But I was reassured in the thread I created since I got some details regarding the overall free RAM you can get on boot : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45750359&postcount=19
So you can expect, straight out of the box, an average of 1Gb of Free RAM to play with at your leisure !

There's already a thread on it and all things related to ram was covered so no need to continue this again.

No need to worried. I am the user of Note 3, didn't face any RAM not enough yet since purchase start use yesterday.

I myself just tried out a note 3 in a Samsung Mobile Store and it has about 1Gb of free RAM after clearing the memory. If you let the phone run without doing anything you just loose 200Mb.
Plus Android's VM ans the launcher take 400mb!

Note 4 vs Note 5 Benchmarks - End User Tested

I received my new AT&T Note 5 via FedEx yesterday and after setting it up and using it for a day, I ran a series of benchmarks on my new Note 5 and the Note 4 I got last year.
Similarities:
- AT&T (neither is unlocked nor rooted))
- Device Encrypted
- Nova launcher
- All the AT&T pre-installed apps are disabled.
- Chrome Beta 45.0.2454.37 (for browser benchmarks)
Differences:
- Note 4 - 5.0.1 / Build LRX22C / 32 GB model
- Note 5 - 5.1.1 / Build LMY47X / 64 GB model
- Note 4 - has 128GB Encrypted microSD card in it
Sunspider 0.9.1
- Note 4 - 1302.2
- Note 5 - 671.0
Sunspider 1.0.2
- Note 4 - 1321.0
- Note 5 - 719.0
Browsermark 2.1
- Note 4 - 1460
- Note 5 - 1895
Google Octane 2.0
- Note 4 - 5375
- Note 5 - 7902
Geekbench 3 (SC / MC)
- Note 4 - 1090 / 3398
- Note 5 - 1486 / 4660
GFX Bench 3.0 - (C24Z16 T-Rex Off / On)
- Note 4 - 2197f 39fps / 1502f 27fps
- Note 5 - 3007f 54fps / 2025f 36fps
AnTuTu HTML 5
- Note 4 - 18,910
- Note 5 - 25,112
AnTuTu Video Test
- Note 4 - 1012
- Note 5 - 1001
Super Pi 4M digits
- Note 4 - 78.063 secs
- Note 5 - 49.264 secs
Personal subjective tests and opinions:
- The fingerprint sensor on the Note 5 is much faster and more accurate, with a higher success rate.
- The Note 5 installs apps much faster.
- The Note 5 screen appears to have an edge over the Note 4.
- Note 5 appears to have a smoother UI and less lag overall, and UI animations are more fluid.
- With like settings in Nova launcher between the 4 and 5, the Note 5 renders icons and fonts smaller, even though the screens are the same resolution and PPI.
- The height and thickness differences are not noticeable, but the width in the hand while holding it is, and I have the Samsung S-View Flip covers on each, and the Note 5 feels even narrower than the Note 4 with the cases on.
- Due to the very narrow bezel, I have had a few false touches on the edge of the Note 5 screen, which is something I do not remember happening on the Note 4.
- I have not had the Note 5 long enough to have reliable battery tests, but it appears to hold up well in comparison to the Note 4.

Everything you need to know about the Galaxy Note 5

Galaxy Note 5 release date
United States- August 21
*T-Mobile tweeted
We’re opening up Note 5 starting Tuesday 08//18/2015 6am PT – no pre-order needed. AND we’re going to start shipping ASAP!
The United Kingdom has no official release date for the Note 5; Samsung has said due to “marketing reasons”. They will have to make do with the Galaxy S6 Edge+ instead, which features similar specs as the Note 5.
Here’s a rundown of the specs:
Display: 5.7-inch Quad HD Super AMOLED screen with 2560 x 1440 pixel resolution.
Cameras: 16-megapixel camera on the back
5-megapixel front-facing camera.
Operating System: Android 5.1 Lollipop runs on the Note 5.
Processor: Exynos 7420 64-bit processor, with 4GB of RAM
Storage: Samsung offers both 32GB and 64GB variants of the Note 5. (128 GB rumored )
Charging: The Note 5 packs a 3,000mAh battery that works with fast wireless charging technology. unfortunately like the galaxy S6 battery can not simply be removed.
Note 5 Bench marks compared to note 4
Sunspider 0.9.1
- Note 4 - 1302.2
- Note 5 - 671.0
Sunspider 1.0.2
- Note 4 - 1321.0
- Note 5 - 719.0
SunSpider, a JavaScript benchmark. This benchmark tests the core JavaScript language only. It is designed to compare different versions of the same browser, and different browsers to each other
Browsermark 2.1
- Note 4 - 1460
- Note 5 - 1895
Browsermark 2.1 world-famous browser benchmark that test the following
How well browser will re-size screen
How fast browser loads pages and send requests
Does browser support modern web site development techniques
Google Octane 2.0
- Note 4 - 5375
- Note 5 - 7902
JavaScript benchmark that evolves with the Web. Octane 2.0 is a modern benchmark that measures a JavaScript engine's performance by running a suite of tests representative of today's complex and demanding web applications
Geekbench 3 (SC / MC)
- Note 4 - 1090 / 3398
- Note 5 - 1486 / 4660
Geekbench 3 is Primate Labs' cross-platform processor benchmark, with a new scoring system that separates single-core and multi-core performance, and new workloads that simulate real-world scenarios. Geekbench 3 makes it easier than ever to find out if your computer is up to speed.
GFX Bench 3.0 - (C24Z16 T-Rex Off / On)
- Note 4 - 2197f 39fps / 1502f 27fps
- Note 5 - 3007f 54fps / 2025f 36fps
is the first comprehensive cross-platform OpenGL ES 3 benchmark designed for measuring graphics performance, render quality and power consumption in a single, easy-to-use application.
AnTuTu HTML 5
- Note 4 - 18,910
- Note 5 - 25,112
AnTuTu Video Test
- Note 4 - 1012
- Note 5 - 1001
is one of the most popular benchmark apps for Android devices. It tests many parts of your device and assigns an overall score.
Super Pi 4M digits
- Note 4 - 78.063 secs
- Note 5 - 49.264 secs
Super PI is a single threaded benchmark that calculates pi to a specific number of digits.
Cost
Verizon
$29 per month for 24 months 32 GB = $696
$33 per month for 24 months 64GB = $792
T-Mobile
$32.50 per month for 24 months = $780
One free year of Netflix: If you preregister for the phone on T-Mobile’s site before 11:59 p.m. PST on August 20, you’ll get an entire year of Netflix for free. Those who already have Netflix will get a $107.88 credit ($8.99 x 12 months) on their existing account.
Sprint
Will sell the phone four different ways;
With its Lease program
$25 per month for the 32GB model
$30 per month for the 64GB option
Easy Pay Option
$0 down and either $30 or $34 monthly for the 32GB & 64GB
With a new two-year service agreement, the 32GB model is $249.99 and the 64GB is $349.99.
Without contract
$720 (32GB)
$816 (64GB)
AT&T
32 GB Galaxy Note 5
$24.67 per month for 30 months = $740.10
$30.84 for 24 months = $740.16
$37 for 20 months = $740
64-GB option
$28 per month for 30 months =$840
$35 per month for 24 months =$840
$42 per month for 20 months =$840
( I don't understand why they have so many different options that are virtually the same)

Does Samsung Forsaken us?

Does Samsung Forsaken us? Why Samsung doesn't update Note 3 yet to Newer Operating System? 3GB ram, 32GB Internal storage and good processor must be sufficient enough for having newer Operating System. Note 3 NEO already had 5.1.1 as it OS.
Again.. Does Samsung forsaken us?

I haven in the house few old phones, tablets like dual core 1ghz, 1ghz ram, etc.
From all this crappware, the best is Galaxy S2, its blazing fast, with it at 1.4ghz cpu is identical to my note 3 on browsing, youtube starting video, opening apps. And also it play Grand theft auto series better( mali>adreno on these series)
So Samsung does top notch hardware and software.
But what is this crap with only 5.0 android on Note3? To upgrade to newer Samsuck crapware like note 5? Some of us will stay with note3 till we cand find a new phone with sd-card, usb3.1, battery accesable, ir sensor, because if you haved an Note 3 you cant go downgrade to an note 4 or note 5.
Is like me who love AMVA lcd panel, IPS panels, Oled panels i go back to TN panel, this will never happened.
My note 3 is at least 4x times faster then note 4 at usb transfer rate.

Buy the new phones from Samsung. Then you'll have another 18 months of updates. Or jump ship and buy another manufacturer's device.

i think that is a sad but true fact. still considering not to buy samsung device again because of it.

so basicly samsung only gave support for 18 months?

For the Note 3? Yes.

Do I really need to get 4 GB RAM or will 3 GB RAM suffice for my usage?

I'm thinking of getting the Zenfone Max Pro M1. My usage is quite lighter than most people. I never install Shopping apps, Payment apps, gaming apps and social networking apps. I do all these things through the browser. I will have a selected few apps installed that includes ticketing app, live music app, parcel tracking app, internet radio app, banking and mail app. That's all.
The only requirement I need is that my browser should be as smooth and snappy after 2 years, as the first day. I often browse with desktop version of sites and those should be snappy and have almost zero lag after 2 years and after upgrading to Android Q.
Do I really need to shell out 2000 rs more and get the 4 GB/64 GB variant? Or will the 3GB/32GB be sufficiently fast even after upgrading to Android Q? Will Android Q be a resource hog and eat up all 3GB RAM, leaving no room for heavy browsing?

bagho said:
I'm thinking of getting the Zenfone Max Pro M1. My usage is quite lighter than most people. I never install Shopping apps, Payment apps, gaming apps and social networking apps. I do all these things through the browser. I will have a selected few apps installed that includes ticketing app, live music app, parcel tracking app, internet radio app, banking and mail app. That's all.
The only requirement I need is that my browser should be as smooth and snappy after 2 years, as the first day. I often browse with desktop version of sites and those should be snappy and have almost zero lag after 2 years and after upgrading to Android Q.
Do I really need to shell out 2000 rs more and get the 4 GB/64 GB variant? Or will the 3GB/32GB be sufficiently fast even after upgrading to Android Q? Will Android Q be a resource hog and eat up all 3GB RAM, leaving no room for heavy browsing?
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If you are lite user then you can go with 3gb variant. You can purchase 4gb variant in 3gb variant price in Flipkart Diwali sale which is starting from 1 November.

bagho said:
I'm thinking of getting the Zenfone Max Pro M1. My usage is quite lighter than most people. I never install Shopping apps, Payment apps, gaming apps and social networking apps. I do all these things through the browser. I will have a selected few apps installed that includes ticketing app, live music app, parcel tracking app, internet radio app, banking and mail app. That's all.
The only requirement I need is that my browser should be as smooth and snappy after 2 years, as the first day. I often browse with desktop version of sites and those should be snappy and have almost zero lag after 2 years and after upgrading to Android Q.
Do I really need to shell out 2000 rs more and get the 4 GB/64 GB variant? Or will the 3GB/32GB be sufficiently fast even after upgrading to Android Q? Will Android Q be a resource hog and eat up all 3GB RAM, leaving no room for heavy browsing?
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3gb version of the phone will be more than enough for you.

Prashant324 said:
If you are lite user then you can go with 3gb variant. You can purchase 4gb variant in 3gb variant price in Flipkart Diwali sale which is starting from 1 November.
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Thank you for your suggestion. That's a good idea to get 4 GB at the price of 3, but then the 3 GB will be even cheaper. I was wondering if getting 4 GB is even justified for my usage, because most of the RAM "might" remain unused. But I was unsure if newer Android OS es need at least 3 GB to even operate.
sallodhi said:
3gb version of the phone will be more than enough for you.
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Thank you for your suggestion, Sallodhi.

Do you think Android 10 (Q), which is promised for the Zenfone Max Pro M1, will be a huge resource hog that it'll need 3 GB RAM minimum to even run the OS?

bagho said:
Do you think Android 10 (Q), which is promised for the Zenfone Max Pro M1, will be a huge resource hog that it'll need 3 GB RAM minimum to even run the OS?
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The fact that android is getting more optimised and i am pretty happy with the ram management, 3gb seems good enough for me. But if you want more apps running in background then extra ram will be appreciated. Rest is your wish. 6gb certainly feels overkill

I suggest you'd get the 4GB version on diwali sales.. Its better to have more than to be stuck on less. Your usage would just be okay with 3GB but if you are planning to use it for a longer time..get the 4GB version..1GB extra ram would give an advantage on the apps that are always increasing the ram demand.
I have seen minor lags with 3GB version while using chrome and few other apps, but this never happened on 4GB and 6GB..currently using the 6GB version..
And if you would want a big price cut..get the superb or very good condition refurbished ones from 2Gud. Worth the price.. Even the good condition is just like new.. Good experience so far..returned 4 times for upgrades..wasn't satisfied till this 6GB version haha. You could also get just unboxed condition there

Get the 3 GB varient...
It wont lag...
More ram means more applications can run/stay open in the background and it should not affect the performance of your foreground app

4gb in diwali sale..
Future proof. 64gb double storage. Its not that costly

bagho said:
Do you think Android 10 (Q), which is promised for the Zenfone Max Pro M1, will be a huge resource hog that it'll need 3 GB RAM minimum to even run the OS?
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Max Pro M1 should get 2 major android updates P and Q
Edit: i missread, i taught u were saying "is it promised"

Go for 4gb. Not lower or higher.

just my 2 cents
Although 3GB is enough, 4GB will ensure better performance for long usage, because apps update usually get more and more resource hogging.
You can't browse too much tabs in desktop mode withous closing some background apps.
So 4GB or 6GB is better.