Lollipop and Verizon GS5 - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So what will Lollipop mean for us Verizon GS5 users? Will we loose Root if we upgrade?

No. Just have to wait for stock image to come to Verizon. Root will always be achievable on the S5. Now the boot loader, I don't think will ever be unlocked on this phone

aescbrya said:
Root will always be achievable on the S5.
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With Verizon's track record on tightening the noose on root I would not say this. All they need to do is make the firmware so you can not revert to a earlier version and you are up the creek without a paddle when you need to revert to stock.

You really see Odin going anywhere? If they wanted to do what your saying they could have done it along time ago. Yes I agree they have the ability, but probability is very unlikely. What would really suck is if they started simply pushing developer phones meaning if you want to do anything you have to pay for the special developer phone

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You really see Odin going anywhere? If they wanted to do what your saying they could have done it along time ago. Yes I agree they have the ability, but probability is very unlikely. What would really suck is if they started simply pushing developer phones meaning if you want to do anything you have to pay for the special developer phone
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they very much so have locked BL to where you couldnt revert to an older BL.. the vzw s4 is a perfect example.. if you updated past mdk unlocked BL you couldnt go back hence why they got SS..
As for the S5 5.0 update they have rooted it over on the international thread.. my suggestion would be to wait for a update.zip to flash with root then odin the firmware just like we do today.. if that doesnt work then were all screwed lol

So why exactly is it that we'll probably never get an unlocked bootloader?

aescbrya said:
You really see Odin going anywhere? If they wanted to do what your saying they could have done it along time ago. Yes I agree they have the ability, but probability is very unlikely. What would really suck is if they started simply pushing developer phones meaning if you want to do anything you have to pay for the special developer phone
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I don't see Odin going anywhere bit it's useless for root if they do increment the bootloader like they do on nearly all of their devices. The S5 is the only new Samsung device they haven't locked down like fort knox. We'll just have to wait and see what happens with future updates to this device. Hopefully they will leave it as it is but I wouldn't count on it. The way Android security is going we may just have to buy a developer phone to enjoy root in the future. I just wish Verizon would offer them on contract or the Edge program to take the sting out of the cost.

Misterxtc said:
I don't see Odin going anywhere bit it's useless for root if they do increment the bootloader like they do on nearly all of their devices. The S5 is the only new Samsung device they haven't locked down like fort knox. We'll just have to wait and see what happens with future updates to this device. Hopefully they will leave it as it is but I wouldn't count on it. The way Android security is going we may just have to buy a developer phone to enjoy root in the future. I just wish Verizon would offer them on contract or the Edge program to take the sting out of the cost.
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Exactly! I wouldn't care about buying the developer phone if you didn't have to pay full price

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Unlocked Bootloader

Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
NotSoSuper- said:
Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
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s7freak said:
Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
"And on that bombshell!"
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s7freak said:
If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
"And on that bombshell!"
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So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
NotSoSuper- said:
So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
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Sorry man but no LOL but don't give up someone might give as a root exploit even if we have to use FlashFire
"And on that bombshell!"
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My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
czucker said:
My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
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Because it isn't a root method.
FlashFire is an excellent application/pseudo recovery that allows one to back up/flash certain Roms and mods.
There isn't root for the G935A yet and there might not be one keep your fingers crossed
"And on that bombshell!"
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Definitely not wanting another locked ATT piece of crap. As for ATT...
I will own my G900A on OC4 TMS5 3.0 custom rom in 3 months, THEN WHAT??? They are choking us programmer types to death these days (no, I do not do phone programming, old dog here. I wish I knew how. Too old and lazy...LOL).
Yeah, my S5 from at&t has a locked bootloader and I'm rooted. I have to use OA1 bootloader though for it to work. Everything else is using OF3.
I think each time I get a phone that root will never happen and it always eventually happens. The S7 seems like it's selling like hotcakes, so I'm confident that one of the genius's here will figure it out.
NotSoSuper- said:
Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
theneighbor said:
If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
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Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
xjimmy said:
Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
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I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
theneighbor said:
I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
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This is a thread regarding the oem switch and whether or not the BOOTLOADER is unlocked when activating it. Then you added your snotty two cents about "if you require root," which is way off topic, and made you sound like an a******. Then you allude to me being off topic? Nah, man, nah. If I misinterpreted what you were attempting to express, it's because your critical thinking is sub-par, and you should think clearly about what you're going to write before doing so. But that's really not the case and you know it. You jump to conclusions too. I'm not attempting to moderate, I'm just calling you out on your s***. A hard pill to swallow, a difficult reflection to face. Now you want to be nasty with me; That's cool.
I just got a bogo on at&t for two s7 edge phones. I don't "require root," but I sure hope it becomes available. Got two vr gears, and two 64gb micro sd's free when I did the deal at bestbuy. I think root will happen, but to get back to topic, I doubt that the bootloader will ever get unlocked. I just want you to know that I care, and if you need more counseling, I'm here for you. Peace.
~Xjimmy
The switch alone doesn't unlock the bootloader even on devices that can have the bootloader unlocked. It is part of native android and I'm betting Samsung just forgot to remove/hide it.
Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
If you need an unlocked bootloader and or root then Samsung is not the best Idea. They want to lock their devices down permanently. Which no one can really blame them as they try to break into the business market and modders make up less then 1% of their sales and shrinking.
zelendel said:
Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
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Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
I HATE STOCK!!! SO BUTT UGLY... :silly::laugh:
samccfl99 said:
Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
I HATE STOCK!!! SO BUTT UGLY... :silly::laugh:
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Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
s7freak said:
Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
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Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
samccfl99 said:
Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
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Yeah I flashed Renovate Rom it's a bit buggy for me right now. I'm running Echoe Rom it's flawless.
This device has a big enough battery and now with Ex Sd card it's wonderful.
Not a lot of development but with the theme store and Xposed working I'm pleased.
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
I would say if you want rom development then get a nexus. Pretty soon that will be people's only choice. And even then that maybe coming to an end with Google making fixes but not pushing the fixes to aosp.
As for the international version of the s7, development will be buggy as they always are with that chip set. Without proper documentation there will always be things that don't work like camera issues.
As for why no sdcard in the nexus. Well that is a two fold issue. One is people really are dumb. (average not users here... Ok well some) and have no idea between the 2 types. The second is people always wanting to move apps to the sdcard which is never a good idea. And then you have knock off sdcards that cause issues and people blame the device because they don't know any better.

Warning about root

if you root this phone and trip knox fuse counter. you will NEVER EVER be able to use the great feature of MST through samsung pay.
My thoughts . since we have a non root hotspot and all bloatware (which isnt that much) can be disabled
the phone has so much customization incl uded i am not rooting the phone. the battery lasts 2 days easy with medium
use. no bugs at all i can find. what more can you ask for.
Remember Root no MST (mst is the ability to use the old card swipers at any location with the phone. it sends card you addeds magnetic strip info to the swiper )
UNLESS you can root without tripping the know counter. its unreversalble
carry on
First phone I've owned that I dont see myself rooting. I really like the Samsung Pay.
Yea I'm coming from the S6 and couldn't use it but enjoying Samsung Pay now
You don't have to worry about that. All US versions are locked down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3327399
After 8 generations of HTC phones, I decided to try Samsung this year as M10 rumors were they were ditching Boomsound my favorite feature of the M phones. I felt edge was far superior this year at least based on the rumors which getting this close to launch are usually spot on. I was well aware that I was going to have to decide to trip knox or not if I wanted root. While there is more customization and control with Android 6 it still doesn't compare to having everything wide open, especially if you are use to S-OFF.
Is the trade off worth it? Well I think so at least right now, this device is superior to pretty much anything out at the moment. I'm already missing Xposed, Titanium Backup & AdAway. The lock down on these devices is just getting so bad, while I understand they shouldn't come rooted out of the box but give us a choice. We may not even have the option of tripping Knox at this point. Part of the reason I stayed with Sprint for so long is they were more friendly with unlocking phones then big red but everything seems to be going the wrong direction.
Even if root is granted, it will just be patched and it's only going to get more secure and difficult each generation. I guess we just might have to start accepting that this is just how it is. Kinda sad, I'm just so use to having it even back in the Windows Mobile days I was running custom roms.
v8dreaming said:
You don't have to worry about that. All US versions are locked down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3327399
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No they are already rooted with custom kernels and roms deodexed and odexed
These boys dont.play
Yess of course
I'm fine removing Samsung Pay if I get the benefits of rooting.
Robalboa said:
Works on our phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335727
ROM stock firmware Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE SM-G935P ROOT TWRP Drivers
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I thought the bootloader was locked on all the carriers this year?
Someone give it a shot and let us know ?
Sim-X said:
I thought the bootloader was locked on all the carriers this year?
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It still has the unlock bootloader button in developer options just like the S6 had
Soooperstar said:
It still has the unlock bootloader button in developer options just like the S6 had
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Interesting, I'm not gonna go first I still haven't decided if I wanna trip knox or not if the bootloader is in fact able to be unlocked.
Robalboa said:
Works on our phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335727
ROM stock firmware Samsung Galaxy S7 EDGE SM-G935P ROOT TWRP Drivers
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This link only shows 935F -- not 935P. Am I missing something?
nastypup said:
This link only shows 935F -- not 935P. Am I missing something?
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as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol
Robalboa said:
as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol
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Thanks for the tip! I'm a huge fan of custom roms and the prospect of xposed so I'm very much looking forward to rooting. I'll wait a little though for a more concrete path and at least a rom to flash.
Robalboa said:
as stated above there a option to
unlock the bootloader in Dev options. im not sure all the details because i see no benefit to root right now but
they do have the phone rooted and they are modding kernels and system as wee speak. also custom recovery.
TWRP will inject root upon install and start up to reboot.
This is just a warning about root to anyone so they know the Deal with Samsung pay and MST
I do see it says 900f but theres numerous reports of it working on the 900P
you know these guys are flashaholics lol
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I've never used Samsung Pay but I need a rooted phone to restore a ton of data. Stock ROM is adequate for me. I played with custom ROMs years ago and they were just a time suck. I was flashing them almost daily. The stock ROM is good as long as its rooted.
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I've never used Samsung Pay but I need a rooted phone to restore a ton of data. Stock ROM is adequate for me. I played with custom ROMs years ago and they were just a time suck. I was flashing them almost daily. The stock ROM is good as long as its rooted.
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Samsung pay is the only way to use MST or use ur phone for old card swipers. But thats your call
Samsung pay is useless to me. And as far as I can tell that's the only benefit to not rooting. I've read there are other benefits but that's the only one I've seen posted, Other than warranty.
To me; rooting is more beneficial. Removing advertising is the biggest. Then a basic debloated rom is second. Adding apps that are not usable on non-rooted phone would be my third reason.
nickmus said:
Samsung pay is useless to me. And as far as I can tell that's the only benefit to not rooting. I've read there are other benefits but that's the only one I've seen posted, Other than warranty.
To me; rooting is more beneficial. Removing advertising is the biggest. Then a basic debloated rom is second. Adding apps that are not usable on non-rooted phone would be my third reason.
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I'm kinda feeling the same way. Can't use Samsung Pay as a total replacement anyway and I just looked they don't even support Capital One cards at least yet anyway. That was one thing google did right back in the day with wallet, you could link any card. Still looks cool but ad block is one of the main reasons I root as well. I'm giving AdGaurd a shot (I use that on my desktop) and you can side load it to Android it creates a local VPN connection to the app to filter all traffic. Kinda annoying you always have a notification saying it's running also doesn't block youtube ads which Xposed worked awesome for that. I miss TI as well. Warranty void I feel so so about. S-OFF you could at least remove a tampered flag on an HTC although HTC would still have record of you doing a dev unlock token even if reset everything.

Rooting for a purpose, then unrooting

So, I've been at this Android thing for a very long time, and had unofficially retired from the XDA world when I bought a GS7 because I never thought rooting would even be possible. Well, now that I've rooted the phone and experimented with a custom ROM, I've come up with a question I don't know that I've ever had or read before.
I'm struggling with whether or not to stay in the rooted universe because I had come to take advantage of Samsung Pay quite often, and I didn't realize the battery difference would be what it is.
I want my phone rooted for two primary reasons, 1) to hack the provisioning so that I can use the native hotspot feature without needing a special app like FoxFi, and 2) to be able to remove all the crapware these phones come with.
So.. Theoretically here..... Shouldn't it be possible to root my phone, remove the crap, hack the provisioning, and then unroot the phone, revert back to the stock kernel, get my battery life back, and use Samsung Pay again? I never did load Samsung Pay on this phone since I've rooted it.
I saw psouza's unrooting guide but if I recall it was a destructive process..... I'd like to see if there's a way to root, set things up, then unroot and restore the phone to a state that maintains the hotspot hack and makes Samsung Pay happy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/help/magisk-t3462583/post68962510
I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.
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I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.
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well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.
spearoid said:
well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.
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It will not work. The original kernel for the device checks system verity. This is a part of locked boot loaders and android M+. If one bit of information is changed the original kernel will not boot. The reason we can root with the engineer kernel is it does not do this. Due to being in a "custom" status and non original kernel Samsung pay will not work nor will it ever work with this root method.
You have ruined my life with this response
So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?
spearoid said:
You have ruined my life with this response
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Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
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So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?
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It was used for internal testing for Samsung. This was an early version of the first kernel they had for the S7, I believe and correct me if I am wrong anyone. It was fine tuned and then released but the engineering kernel was left in the dust.
Illogi.xbone said:
Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
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I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.
spearoid said:
I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.
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I was too until the pokemon update lol then I decided no root.

How does rooting and warranty work on this phone?

When I got my first phone (DROID RAZR M) I didn't even know what root was. After a year and my warranty's term, I found out and unlocked the bootloader just for fun. When I got my Verizon Note 4, I found out about KNOX and its hardware flag that can't be reversed. I had to wait 1.5 years for root on that anyway, but I'm keeping my Samsung tablet stock for the first year because of that flag.
My question: does LG have anything like Samsung KNOX? If I root right now, will I not just be able to flash back to stock and keep my warranty if needed? Or is LG nicer to power users?
Since I lose all data with a bootloader unlock, I'd rather do it sooner than later, but if I permanently trip some flag by doing so, I'd rather wait the year.
I've moved to T-Mobile, so I have the H918. I know I can root and I've seen the guide, but I don't know if I should root.
Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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It's actually really exciting to see all the development for this phone so far. I don't have much basis to judge from, but it's definitely a lot more than my Note.
So there's no hardware switch that'll be tripped? Is root reversible?
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
Christufurr said:
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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Well I guess Google does a pretty good job of backing up app data (which I didn't know they even did), so if I have to wipe, it probably won't be too bad.
If no one has heard of an LG KNOX equivalent, that gives me hope that there is none, and I'll be able to revert, which is definitely a plus for LG.
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
Zacharee1 said:
Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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I agree!
Christufurr said:
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Hi Christufurr,
Did you have a chance to unroot your phone ? If yes, please let me how did yiu do that.
Thank you

Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?

Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?
Magic 8-ball says: Ask again later...
I hate these questions. They make me feel more doubtful, lol. Heck, if we knew that everybody would be buying one and waiting in anticipation.
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The million dollar question. I hope it happens but this is the first phone stock I've had that doesn't annoy me. I actually barely notice at all but I love to flash so maybe one day
My phone runs great no issues so it's not a big thing to have it rooted in that aspect, however. I like to keep NANDROID backups in case something happens, and the ability to backup applications the way I want is very important to me. Just using apps to backup everything is one thing, but if something occurs on a system level, you are generally screwed unless you have ROOT to be able to tinker and fix it yourself. I was able to fix countless phones on my own when the stores would want to wipe to factory reset or give me a refurbished. Screw that mess, give me freedom. Besides, it's illegal for them to deny you insurance claims based on ROOT. They legally have to prove that you damaged the phone by modifying the software. Battled and won twice after threats of a lawsuit. I have that part of the consumer rights saved in multiple places, just need to remember where so I can post it.
It all depends on whether or not the bootloader is locked, dm-verity, restrictions, etc. I hope it's not something like the Galaxy S7 with its Qualcomm Secure Boot.
The bootloader isn't even accessible from any user accessable means from what I've encountered, I can't seem to get in, I have "Enable OEM unlock" in settings, but it just seems that fastboot has been entirely stripped from this device... Very weird.
source code for Sprint G6
enzeden said:
Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?
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dont know if this could help. i wouldnt know what to look for..
opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LS993
Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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hoonigan43 said:
Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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yep
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
yep
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Figured ?
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I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?
Mr nerd said:
Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?
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Because I like to go outside every now and then and I need a working phone. Don't care to go back to old Nexus.
MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....
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You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....
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Ditto on all that. For ads, I've used the all in one opt out which has eliminated lots of ads. Bloat is irritating, having to reset Google Voice after every update. Xposed was awesome. And I want all the Sprint badging and boot animation gone. Even temp root would make me happy.
Just everybody remember. Do not update. Usually root is achieved on lowest firmwares only in the last few history of lg series
Someone just messaged me this: Maybe some jtag process could work, or test point at qcom mode, dumping boot.img and rooting with magisk

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