If you could, would you use the Moto G for a year and wait for the LG G4? - G3 General

I've been following this phone for a while, and while I think it'll be the best flagship out this cycle for me, I'm still not too happy with the fact that it's an 801 processor trying to push a 1440p screen.
I'm still split between waiting out about a year for the G4 while using the Moto G or just taking the plunge and getting this phone. Hopefully an 810 processor (or 808 at the worst) should be able to handle the screen without battery/heat/staggering issues.
For people who've used this phone for a while, if you could return your G3 for a full refund and wait for the G4 with a Moto G, would you?

whyhellothere1 said:
I've been following this phone for a while, and while I think it'll be the best flagship out this cycle for me, I'm still not too happy with the fact that it's an 801 processor trying to push a 1440p screen.
I'm still split between waiting out about a year for the G4 while using the Moto G or just taking the plunge and getting this phone. Hopefully an 810 processor (or 808 at the worst) should be able to handle the screen without battery/heat/staggering issues.
If you could return your G3 for a full refund and wait for the G4 with a Moto G, would you?
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As mentioned by someone else, the screen resolution hardly impacts performance, the 801 chip can handle a 4k screen pretty easily, the problem lies with optimisations, the G2 was the same when it came out, but software updates made it the phone we know for speed today.
, I personally have no heating issues on software 10H, lag does exist but its just a few frame rates, its as fast as any other 801 at opening apps. The moto G is a nice phone, your best bet is holding out until LG fix issues with a software update.

I have both a Verizon prepaid MotoG and just recently a Verizon LG G3. Both are very nice phones. I use the G3 though.

Yup.. on initial my firmware 10b alot of people were quick to judge the capability of the 801 due to the micro-stutters.
Right now I'm on 10j and all seems well. You'll be surprised how well the 801 handles the 1440p display.
And for your question.. personally, no. The G4 will bring in more unknown issues and satisfaction will never be there. If budget is an issue, then wait and save up. If not, I rather just get the latest and greatest right now.
I sense alot of people are eagerly waiting for a 805 device but the fact is it's aint leaps better. The nVidia K1 is a better beast. So I'm sensing if the G4 may not be alot better than the G3 depending on the chip they use. And if they go beyond 5.5", I'm totally out. Smartphone technology seemed to be saturated at this moment.

One can always wait for the next greatest product. We don't know anything about the G4 so how can anyone advise you to wait for it - or not?

When do you think the g4 will come out? That seems like a long wait..
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I think that issues you mention is software maturity problem. Mostly solved in 10j firmware. It play games smoothly so i dont see any problem with 801 on 1440p, maybe in benchmark but i dont play bench.
Im not gonna trade G3 with any other phone at the moment.

If Xiaomi Redmi 1s arrived earlier in my country, I'd bought it first then wait for Nexus 6...
But I'm satisfied with my G3 now.

The phone (G3) is great but if you feel no reason to upgrade, I'd say wait.
There's always going to be something better around the corner.
If anything, wait until you're so intrigued by a phone that you don't have to ask yourself that question and you'll just go along and buy it.
New Tegras on the way, those should be nice.

So the G4 won't have any issues? Once any flagship device drops you can be assured that there will be issues associated with that device.

i wouldnt have the moto g in the first place..i would have gotten the n5 instead

I would, rite the way. I regret buying this phone and i am thinking about selling it and going back to my nexus 4 and wait for the next nexus.

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I would, rite the way. I regret buying this phone and i am thinking about selling it and going back to my nexus 4 and wait for the next nexus.
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Really? I've got the nexus 4 now and have had it since it came out and I'm looking for an upgrade. I want a bigger screen, better battery and camera.
Why do you regret the purchase?
My nexus 4 is in mint condition, rooted bit stock and never overclocked. This one is only a few months old as I did a warranty replacement. Let me know if you are interested in selling and swapping.
The problem with waiting for new models is that there are always new models coming out. It is a tough call especially when not knowing about certain models and what they will offer.
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Really? I've got the nexus 4 now and have had it since it came out and I'm looking for an upgrade. I want a bigger screen, better battery and camera.
Why do you regret the purchase?
My nexus 4 is in mint condition, rooted bit stock and never overclocked. This one is only a few months old as I did a warranty replacement. Let me know if you are interested in selling and swapping.
The problem with waiting for new models is that there are always new models coming out. It is a tough call especially when not knowing about certain models and what they will offer.
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I have my nexus 4 that's why I'm thinking about switching back but thanks for the offer only thing I would miss is the big screen and the camera but overall the nexus 4 feels snappier than my G3 a lot of times...

My nexus4 developed the same dead area in the center of the touchscreen that most of them do eventually. I still have it, but my Nexus5 and now my G3 are a lot more fun. I also have a MotoG and it fits really nicely in my hand - the G3 is really just a bit too big for complete comfort, particularly with any kind of case on it (necessary).
That little MotoG is really a remarkable device.

Thanks, still love my nexus 4 but really getting itchy for something new.
Is your main reason for not wanting the lg g3 just the lag? I'm hoping that stuff will be fixed with updates..
I may end up waiting for the note 4.. Not sure yet but really looking for a larger screen now.
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webdevoman said:
Thanks, still love my nexus 4 but really getting itchy for something new.
Is your main reason for not wanting the lg g3 just the lag? I'm hoping that stuff will be fixed with updates..
I may end up waiting for the note 4.. Not sure yet but really looking for a larger screen now.
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Well, basically yes, the phone is not fluid, and I also started to have the shutdown/reboot bug. All of these I believe to be a hardware issue, and I think LG should recall and replace all these units. It's not nice having a meltdown on a phone. I also think is behind with software, Sony devices are already on 4.4.4 while we are on 4.4.2 (at least me). Also the UI is fugly and unoptimized imo, after having Sony and Nexus devices, I would say Song's UI is the sexiest, if I can't get that, I'd go aosp. But I do like how sexy the phone looks like, I like the camera but the options are limited - there I think again, Sony leads the way -, and I like the remote control. The screen would be awesome if it wouldn't be the reason of the overheating - with the other hardware elements together of course.

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I'm still not too happy with the fact that it's an 801 processor trying to push a 1440p screen.
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Then just get a Note 4.

The 801 has more than enough balls for the qhd display. I can play games smoothly with my cpu and gpu downclocked.

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What to buy: LG, HTC X+, Note II

First I could not buy a G3 because the rounded corners was something I could not live with. The corners on the Note 2 are NOT rounded as much, and with a Otterbox case will be not as noticeable. The specs on the note 2 are almost perfect. The PPI is a bit lower but what I've been reading not that noticible.
The LG Optimus G has a PPI of 440 and I am sure the screen will appear much finer and crisper. The negative aspects of the Optimus G however could be a bit scarry...bad support, and a bad reputation for not supporting their phones.
The HTC One X+ specs are not very clear at this point, so it is an unknown at this point. The One X was inviting to me style wise, but the phone does NOT multitask, add in a non removeable battery and no card slot, and you have to run the other way. The update to Jelly Bean may fix the multitasking issue, but that remains to be seen.
One the Note's plus side, we also have a removeable battery, and a 64gb SD card slot, a notification LED,and NON PENTILE amoled display, 2 gigs of RAM, quadcore processor, all of which makes it quite inviting. I really cant think of any negative aspects to the phone at this point.
I've been on my Atrix 4G since March of 2011 and it has served me well. I got the Nexus 7 and that has satisfied my tablet craving for sure. The Nexus 7 has a LAG ISSUE which I assume google will address and fix at some point.
Switching between my Atrix with its 4" screen, and the Nexus' 7" screen is interesting. My Atrix actually runs smoother and so upgrading the phone to something a little bigger, faster, and better is very critical to me.
We may not know exactly what the negative aspects of the Note 2 are until it is released. I learned a hard lesson with the Nexus 7. With all the hype and great reviews of it, NOONE mentioned the lag issues and other quirks. If the Note performs and feels as good as I think it will, I may sell the Nexus 7 if the wife doesnt want it .
So really the main point here is I wouldnt preorder ANYTHING anymore until it is relased to the public and vetted because everyone, the companies, the reviewers, the magazines, all want to hype everything to death, even before it is released, AND there has only been ONE main report on the serious NEXUS LAG ISSUE even months after it has been released and well known. What I can say for sure is that I'll never buy an Iphone.
Depends what you are after and use your phone for, but all 3 seems they will be very nice on their own way.
I always get all new phones and normally use 2 phones at a time, one for daily use and one play phone. In the end i always end up using phones i thought I should use last.
Like now after a good while on s3 i did go back to my HoX as I just like that screen and feeling of the phone..
But the device i really want is Lumia 920 tho, but till that comes I for sure gonna give note2 and ip5 and other nice devices a shot..
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I was all for the Optimus G initially. The "poor support" thing did concern me but I figured the devs on xda would more than cover that. I could even just about tolerate the non removable battery.. But the lack of an SD card slot just killed it. I bought a 64GB Micro SD not long ago and I wouldn't have any use for it.
The HOX+ looked interesting too but just like the LGOG, the lack of expandable memory is a deal breaker for me.
That left the GNote2.. Big screen, RBG as opposed to pentile, user-replaceable battery (I have an extended battery in my GS2 now), more than ample internals for what I plan to use it for, it's a Sammy flagship (good support), and of course, expandable memory.
Imho, the GNote2 is the way to go, but of course, that's just me
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I think i will buy Note 2, for bigger display and spen. Gonna give my HOX for my wife.
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Btw here's my Atrix screenshot. Can't wait to see in on the Note
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Btw here's my Atrix screenshot. Can't wait to see in on the Note
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Whoa that screen
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does the Note2 have in-cell touch screen like the LG?
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does the Note2 have in-cell touch screen like the LG?
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no. For now only the optimus G and iPhone 5 are using that tech (actually it's 2 different techs with the same name)
when is this lg phone coming out?
Note 2 definetly
randoug said:
when is this lg phone coming out?
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November in the US so it must be around the same time of the international version (if not sooner).
Galaxy Note II:angel:
CreepyDroid said:
no. For now only the optimus G and iPhone 5 are using that tech (actually it's 2 different techs with the same name)
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I think the xperia v too.
....was looking forward to that tech.
I am buying Note 2 so I never have to worry about having a tablet.
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the nexus five by htc looks amazing.
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The note 2 is a different type of smartphone because it's a hybrid between tablet and phone, that's why I'm getting it so I can have the best of both worlds
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I'm getting the Note II...soon. The LG Optimus G has amazing specs. That processor may be faster than the Exynos 5250 when it comes out. It will undoubtedly the fastest processor until then. We'll just have to wait and see. But after much research, there are so many people saying they'll never buy LG phones again and they regret buying it. 2 years is a long time to live with buyer's remorse. Phone looks great, but the warning screams are too loud to ignore.
The HTC One X+, I thought for a long time that people who used the HTC One X absolutely loved their phones, and I think this is still true. However, I have followed some users who have the privilege of owning both HTC One X and Galaxy S3 who have given equal face time with both phones, and the it is clear the HTC One X has flaws with how their multitasking is implemented that it unnecessarily wares on your patience, time, and battery power. If you don't own both devices, you probably don't know what you are missing.
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I'm getting the Note II...soon. The LG Optimus G has amazing specs. That processor may be faster than the Exynos 5250 when it comes out. It will undoubtedly the fastest processor until then. We'll just have to wait and see. But after much research, there are so many people saying they'll never buy LG phones again and they regret buying it. 2 years is a long time to live with buyer's remorse. Phone looks great, but the warning screams are too loud to ignore.
The HTC One X+, I thought for a long time that people who used the HTC One X absolutely loved their phones, and I think this is still true. However, I have followed some users who have the privilege of owning both HTC One X and Galaxy S3 who have given equal face time with both phones, and the it is clear the HTC One X has flaws with how their multitasking is implemented that it unnecessarily wares on your patience, time, and battery power. If you don't own both devices, you probably don't know what you are missing.
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Yes stay away from LG, i have the G2x and yes while on paper its a great device the lack support from LG and 0 support from nvidia has left the first dual core phone in the states still running gingerbread unless you want to run ICS with no video drivers.

Sold my G3 =(

It is with pain that I've sold my LG G3 D855, great looking and powerfull phone, but with the locked bootloader and the current unstable LG software, I decided to sell it and I've now ordered the Oneplus One.
I really like to have control over MY phone and the LG G3 I felt limited to what I could do with it, specially knowing that the phone had the possibilities to do so much more and be a lot more stable/fast, I paid for the phone, I want to use the way I want to, not the way LG wants me to... Let me know if I'm the only one that feels this way about your G3?
Now waiting for the OPO and looking at the forums here, it is exactly what I need, a fast, customizable phone, that does not lose warranty by unlocking the bootloader.
I'll let you know when I get it, how I feel about it, compared to the G3.
You are overdramatizing things. The unlock will happen, in time. Go post in the OPO forums .
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I had the OnePlusOne... Multiple times. It's a great phone as well. The phone is a phablet and if that is what you want then go for it. But the yellow tint on the bottom of the screen kills it for me on the OPO.
I've had both. The OPO is a great phone in theory, but if you ever need warranty or service support, you may never get it. I tried to contact support multiple times and they never replied. You really do get what you pay for. You'll get great hardware, but zero support. A warranty isn't worth anything if the company won't actually respond.
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I've had both. The OPO is a great phone in theory, but if you ever need warranty or service support, you may never get it. I tried to contact support multiple times and they never replied. You really do get what you pay for. You'll get great hardware, but zero support. A warranty isn't worth anything if the company won't actually respond.
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I can never keep a phone for over a month, was expecting that the G3 would change this by doing everything I wanted it to, didn't happen, lol, so a month later and going to try a different phone now, still waiting for the perfect fit... having this said, the Warranty is not an issue, if I don't like it, I'll sell it and then comes the next one, but really hope that the OPO will be good enough to keep.
From all the phones I had (HTC One X, BB Z10, BB Q5, BB Z30, HTC One M7, Samsung S4, LG G2, Pantech Vega Iron, Note 2, Xperia Z, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1 Compact, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5 and recently LG G3 (not in order of purchase)), the one that I keep going for, is the HTC One M7, but the screen is too small and the pink tint on the photos just puts me off every time, but in terms of stability and speed, it's always smooth and a lot of support from the developer community, making a fun phone to play with.
Get a nexus device if you want complete control! Boot unlock will come just patients is key!
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If i sold my G3, it would only be for a Note 4 for two reasons.
1. Samsung usually (maybe always?) releases their products up here in canada with unlocked bootloaders, this is my first LG phone i owned in canada and i wasn't really thinking the bootloader was going to be locked, but it is Samsung 1 // LG 0
2. just theoretically thinking here, but since the snapdragon 805 has 40% increased gpu performance/efficency, just underclock that shiznit around 40% and you could theoretically get up to 40% increased power savings over the snapdragon 801 with the same performance as the 801, this could result in some MASSIVE screen on time over the G3. Samsung 2 // LG 0
The thing that really makes me preferring the G3>Note 4 is the form factor & the skinny bezels.
I know the note 4 is the same size as the note 3 and it's just too big, the G3 basically despite nearly having the same size screen feels like a phone and i can use it with 1 hand no matter what i'm doing.
Where as the note 4 does not feel like a phone at all, it definitely feels like a phablet and most of the time it takes 2 hands to operate properly which is a serious downside considering you basically lose 1 handed use for 0.2 inches of screen. this for me is like +3 points to LG forreal, which is why i'm probly gonna keep the G3. Samsung 2 // LG 3
Although i still want my custom kernels & roms really bad and it may drive me to sell my G3 for the Note 4... *Cough* all you LG devs reading this... which i know you are.
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Forgot to mention, that I also had a Nexus 5, but compared to the OPO, the OPO has a lot better specs and a unlocked bootloader as well, so this is the reason for the OPO
I'm not a very patient person, that is a flaw of mine, that is why I sold it, could not wait anymore...
Amb669 said:
If i sold my G3, it would only be for a Note 4 for two reasons.
1. Samsung usually (maybe always?) releases their products up here in canada with unlocked bootloaders, this is my first LG phone i owned in canada and i wasn't really thinking the bootloader was going to be locked, but it is Samsung 1 // LG 0
2. just theoretically thinking here, but since the snapdragon 805 has 40% increased gpu performance/efficency, just underclock that shiznit around 40% and you could theoretically get up to 40% increased power savings over the snapdragon 801 with the same performance as the 801, this could result in some MASSIVE screen on time over the G3. Samsung 2 // LG 0
The thing that really makes me preferring the G3>Note 4 is the form factor & the skinny bezels.
I know the note 4 is the same size as the note 3 and it's just too big, the G3 basically despite nearly having the same size screen feels like a phone and i can use it with 1 hand no matter what i'm doing.
Where as the note 4 does not feel like a phone at all, it definitely feels like a phablet and most of the time it takes 2 hands to operate properly which is a serious downside considering you basically lose 1 handed use for 0.2 inches of screen. this for me is like +3 points to LG forreal, which is why i'm probly gonna keep the G3. Samsung 2 // LG 3
Although i still want my custom kernels & roms really bad and it may drive me to sell my G3 for the Note 4... *Cough* all you LG devs reading this... which i know you are.
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I would like to have the Note 4, but it is way to expensive :s maybe in a 6months when the price drops I'll give it a go...
Now, an update about the OPO, still don't have it, really thought I was going to get it today, but no, ordered on the 20th with express delivery, which was supposed to be delivered between 1 and 3 days, well, third day is gone and still no OPO =( really unhappy, at the moment using my backup Galaxy Nexus, lol...
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Forgot to mention, that I also had a Nexus 5, but compared to the OPO, the OPO has a lot better specs and a unlocked bootloader as well, so this is the reason for the OPO
I'm not a very patient person, that is a flaw of mine, that is why I sold it, could not wait anymore...
I would like to have the Note 4, but it is way to expensive :s maybe in a 6months when the price drops I'll give it a go...
Now, an update about the OPO, still don't have it, really thought I was going to get it today, but no, ordered on the 20th with express delivery, which was supposed to be delivered between 1 and 3 days, well, third day is gone and still no OPO =( really unhappy, at the moment using my backup Galaxy Nexus, lol...
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The one plus one looks like a pretty nice device, If i couldn't have a G3 or a Note 4 i would so go for the one plus one :highfive: maybe i'll get a Note 4 and not like it and end up with a one plus one, who knows haha.
It could be worse, and do like i did one time. I ordered overnight delivery payed like $30 so my product would be 1 day enstead of the free 3 day delivery or w/e it was and i didn't realize the burst of holidays and it took longer than 3 days anyways and still cost me $30 hahaha. Damn did i ever feel retarded when i did that
I also had a Oneplus One. I had multiple dead pixels, the yellow band on the bottom, and a broken vibrate motor. After trying to get a hold of customer service, I was finally able to get a RMA, but getting that cleared took another week. I got tired of the problems I had and all the software glitches that were going on and ended up selling the phone. The G3, to me, is a much superior and solid phone
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Are you, LG G2 owners, upgrading to the LG G4?

Hello XDA.
This is a thing that has puzzled me a bit, so first I'll present my own point of view and then I'd really like to hear what you guys think.
You can see pictures of the G4 here http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-leaks-in-all-of-its-glory_id68166
My G2 has served me really well, and honestly it doesn't have to be replaced. It's still very fast and gets the job done. However, after 1 ½ year it gets old - it has never been the most interesting phone design-wise and with the new phones having a much more attractive design you get tempted. Add to that, that the battery isn't what it used to be either. What made me buy it back then, was it's absolutely fantastic internals at an affordable price. And I don't regret purchasing it.
The LG G4 looks great - especially in leather - and the fact that it has MicroSD support and a removable battery means that I won't run short of storage (especially when flashing and keeping backups on the phone) and wiping internal storage is no longer a headache. The camera is supposed to be brilliant, but we'll have to see how it works out in real life. The screen looks promising - rumors say it's using 'Quantum Dot' display which results in better color accuracy and is more battery efficient. All good so far!
But according to the latest rumors, this thing comes with a Snapdragon 808. And mildly put, it doesn't look too well. Sure LG didn't have many options - either go with the overheating 810 or put in a worse 808. Not only is the 808 worse than the 810, it's also worse than the 805 in terms of GPU capabilities and power. It's not much but last year most people considered a Snapdragon 805 the absolute minimum requirement for a phone with a QHD display. We all saw how the LG G3 performed with its QHD display - it wasn't bad, but by no means impressive.
I think that LG should've sticked to the 810 and disable two of the four A57 cores on a kernel level. I'm sure a 4+2 setup is plenty processing power, but the Adreno 430 GPU outperforms the Adreno 418 (found in the Snapdragon 808) by a huge margin. In addition to that, Snapdragon 810 supports DDR4 RAM.
I'm torn, and thinking to wait for the Samsung Note 5 and hope it won't come with a UHD display. What are your thoughts?
The Lg g2 had been my best ✆ for three years. It was gorgeous, it was very fast, it lasted all day.
I wasn't impressed with the G3 but I think the G4 has my name written on it. They've had some time to play with the configuration, I'm sure it will be excellent.
They're going to have to crank up the design next year though. Just saying.
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eh i will skip G4 becouse i bought my G2 one year ago and i still need to stay with it for 12 months, but i will probably buy G5 or other 2016 flagship phone
As lg phones are locked down, I'm not gonna buy it. The g2 is great and is still the greatest phone they made. But as a flashaholic and someone who likes modding their phone, an unlocked bootloader is very important to me. I only bought the g2 because it was such great value. It turned out to be such a powerful and fun little beast though with a great community as well. It was lightening in a bottle. But my criteria is a bit more strict now. I'll be sticking with the 1+ for a while
No need. I see no advantage to upgrading because my G2 can do everything I need it to. When I get another phone it'll be a nexus or the Asus Zenphone 2, whichever has the larger community.
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Either this or I just may break down and grab a Note 5 or S6 Edge after they iron the initial kinks out.
We'll see... G3 is a good phone and would rank higher if the G2 didn't exist but wasn't great enough to make me sell My G2.
With that said...let the games begin
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With the G2 being a beast phone there's really not enough to convince me why I should upgrade to the G4 besides the Camera, Removable Battery and Expandable Storage. I live perfectly fine without a Removable Battery and Expandable Storage and the G2 has 32GB of Internal Memory and a 3000mAh battery.. so why bother? There's more chance of me getting a 1+ if I was going to upgrade. I have yet to experience a world with an unlocked bootloader.
Yay for capitalism!
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This will more than likely happen.
G2 is great with me, but looking for better camera with G4.
FullHD is enough, 2k is not really necessary. More important thing is the battery life - which many people said that 2k display on G3 made the battery worse.
I think like the OP. I have a vs980 but I'm seriously thinking about jumping to T-Mobile. I thought I read last year that LG was going to allow unlocked bootloaders going forward with the G3. Given the fact that the G4 has a Snapdragon processor, an external SD card slot and removable batteries I'm thinking there is a lot of potential for a large dev community (especially since the S6 doesn't offer these things). We'll see.
No. I went back to the g2 from the g3 because I didn't like the size. I would get a g4 mini iff it was 5-5.2 and had a high end processor. As it stands now, the s6 and s6 edge look like more suitable replacements
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I'm not going to use LG anymore, LG does not satisfy me.
Having owned a few Android devices, I am getting a feeling that the best way to get android experience is to buy a Nexus device. The hardware and the price are only a part of the equation, although we know Nexus devices normally have a great price-performance relation. What makes Nexus so cool is having less pre-installed bloat or custumizations and it's pretty much guaranteed that for the next three years or so you will be the first in the line to get the android updates. Case in point is the stock ROM situation with the current G2. It gives you a glimpse of what it will be like to use the G4 18 months from now. Even though Lollipop 5.1 has come and gone, and the Nexus devices are now running the latest revision of Android 6.0.x, the G2 is still on 5.0.x. Another great example is my Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet that I bought only a year ago. (This was Samsung's flagship tablet in 2014). Same story here. Still using 5.0, and I imagine Marshmallow is something like six months away and it will be the final update from Samsung. On the other hand, the ancient Nexus 7 is still getting Marshmallow updates.

Anyone coming from a G4?

I currently have the G4, but I really dislike the look/feel, the battery life, the UI, and the touchscreen issues. Anyone else switching from the G4 to the 6P? I already have mine pre-ordered.
I'm finally putting my G2 out to pasture...
I want to switch from the G4, mostly due to the touchscreen issues and partially to the UI, but the AMOLED screen is a major turn off. Both phones I've had with AMOLED suffered from burn in, the Nexus 6 a week into owning it.
Yes.
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i am kinda ......... I went from a note 4 to a LGG4 and back to the note 4 ...... I still have my G4 but it collects dust mostly, I did flash a rom on it this past weekend. I just missed the 5.7 inch screen and the lack of dev was killing me.
I'm seriously considering it. Maybe I have a bad G4 but even after disabling the bloat, flashing a different rom, and trying other things, it still lags and my battery life definitely ain't the best if even close to that.
I work from 8-4, my phone will be at 100 when I get to work and almost totally drained by noon, and I don't do anything intensive.
To be completely honest. My wife's S6 feels a lot smoother especially when typing in SwiftKey.
Yes. Although I picked up a couple other phones before the 6p (note 5, moto x). I hated the g4. Still can't understand the circle jerk surrounding that device. So many issues
Coderedpl said:
I'm seriously considering it. Maybe I have a bad G4 but even after disabling the bloat, flashing a different rom, and trying other things, it still lags and my battery life definitely ain't the best if even close to that.
I work from 8-4, my phone will be at 100 when I get to work and almost totally drained by noon, and I don't do anything intensive.
To be completely honest. My wife's S6 feels a lot smoother especially when typing in SwiftKey.
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Yup same here. I even did a KDZ restore and did not root it, still seems to have poor battery life. The touchscreen issues are really aggravating too, with lots of keyboard misses. I have the Verizon G4 so no ROMs yet. I miss the dev support of the G2/G3, lots of mods and ROMs, but nothing for the Verizon G4 yet.
It will be nice to finally have stock Android and fast updates with lots of dev support.
Not a G4, but a G3.
I've got a G4 and I'm enjoying it, but I miss a fingerprint scanner (came from an Ascend Mate 7) and vanilla Android. The only thing I'm giving up with the 6P is expandable storage (since I don't really carry an extra battery around anywhere to make use of removable battery), but that's rectified by the 128GB model of the 6P, which is what I ordered. USB OTG also means storing ROM's will be easy, and an SD card isn't needed.
The G4 is an amazing device, especially when you consider the fact you can grab one at a steep discount these days. But I'm a fan of a clean UI and larger phones, so I gave in and bought the 6P.
geoff5093 said:
I currently have the G4, but I really dislike the look/feel, the battery life, the UI, and the touchscreen issues. Anyone else switching from the G4 to the 6P? I already have mine pre-ordered.
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No way. G4 is the best device I have ever had!
G4 is the most balanced phone in 2015 , camera is amazing. Lacks of development is my turnoff but i will wait N6P drop price and i want to see real camera sample before dumping my G4 , im pretty happy with it!
coming from iPhone 5, I'm actually deciding between Lg G4 and Nexus 6P to be my first android device... so it's quite obvious that I have no clue about "Root" or "Custom Rom".
the decision is already tough guyz on top of that LG released LG V10, which confuse me even more
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coming from iPhone 5, I'm actually deciding between Lg G4 and Nexus 6P to be my first android device... so it's quite obvious that I have no clue about "Root" or "Custom Rom".
the decision is already tough guyz on top of that LG released LG V10, which confuse me even more
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I'd go with the V10 over the G4 IMO, unless it's a lot more expensive.
I have the verizon g4 since inception and a week ago after having some major issues beyond the typical, I convinced them to send me a new one. I must say that quality control must really suck because the new one is definitely running better than my old one which was rooted, debloated, and running some xposed modules. I haven't rooted the new one and it seems snappier and the battery seems the same which is fine as I haven't had much to complain about with the battery.
With that being said, I'll probably be ordering the 6P in a month or so. It sounds like it has everything I want, including a premium feel. I don't have that with the g4, even though I have leather backs.
Just going to wait for some more reviews to make sure it's as good as it sounds.
The g4 is a very good phone and will serve as an excellent backup.
I'll have a problemless g4 and a 6p.
I used the G4 while I was on a trip, loved the camera. I liked the customizations LG's skin offered however I couldn't stand the UI and the LG, the touch sucked.
I really liked the size and feel in hand with the brown leather back.
The battery wasn't great either so I'm hoping the 6P has a better camera and battery.
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I'd go with the V10 over the G4 IMO, unless it's a lot more expensive.
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the more I think about V10 less attractive it gets to be honest.... i keep my phone for at least 2 years before replacing it so having a 5.9 inch phone with gimmicky secondary screen doesn't seem practical... recently i also started looking into Sony Z5, waiting for reviews now
@scott4u Get the nexus 6p. Ive had lots of devices. Nexus i hold dear to my heart they are fast and the development is endless. I had touch to wake 3 years ago on my nexus 4. And I'm typing this on a g4. You should make your first time special.
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@scott4u Get the nexus 6p. Ive had lots of devices. Nexus i hold dear to my heart they are fast and the development is endless. I had touch to wake 3 years ago on my nexus 4. And I'm typing this on a g4. You should make your first time special.
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well Nexus 6P is definitely in my radar but at same time Sony Z5 also look cool... specially coz i read that sony added a extra heat distribution pipe to control heat issue of 810 chip without under-clocking it.
so lets wait for reviews beside New Zealand (that's where I'm) always get devices late

Went to see the new Nexus 6P yesterday didn't get it...

Been thinking about getting the new Nexus 6P yesterday had the money in my pocket and walked out without it..
Think i prefer my Shamu to be honest...
Anyone else upgraded what did you think i was thinking slightly slimmer would be better but i'm not so sure now...
I actually feel that it is a step backwards. Yeah sure, its a "64bit" and can fix up the disk encryption performance problems, but overall, the SD810 is actually WEAKER than the 805. I *certainly* wouldn't spend any money to switch over, especially going from a premium brand like Motorola (and yes, it is still a premium brand) to a bottom rung like Huawei.
Now if everybody had gotten their a**es in gear and made this an SD820, then I would really be in a situation of regretting having purchased the 805 and not just holding onto the 8260A for a few more months. I will not buy a new phone every year -- 2 year min lifespan for me.
Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Carphone Warehouse have them in...
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Just wondering, where did you go to look at one in person? I'm not really looking for a new phone, but I'd like to go take a look at both of the new phones just to see what they're like.
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Please note that he's from UK.... so any answer he gives won't actually help you, being from the US.
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Please note that he's from UK.... so any answer he gives won't actually help you, being from the US.
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ah i didn't notice sorry yeah UK launch day was yesterday...
The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
I find my nexus 6 a little too wide so was considering the new one because its slightly narrower it was a tad difficult to hold properly because the only one carphone warehouse had was attached to the security tag/cord which was attached to the back of it...
Struggling to justify the cost to drop a few mm in width...
if you are into phonography, the 6p camera is much better.
im not too surprised to read that you decided not to get it , i would buy another Nexus 6 over a Nexus 6p, if i had the money !
i am dealing with a screen defect, and when i get my hands on some money and sell this baby, i will order another Nexus 6 and hope to receive it with a non-defect screen as this phone is very gorgeous ( Yes i have been whining quite alot about my screen issue XD ) but oh well, good that you didnt get it in the end imo the Nexus 6 is already a top notch phone.
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The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
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What's wrong with the 810, i have an m9 and an lg g flex 2. I play hours of 3d games like contest of champions, clash and psx emulator, and It doesnt either explode or cause third degree burns. It gets pretty much as hot as my nexus 6 which is 805.
I'm hoping Best Buy has them at some point to go look at them. The Nexus 6 is great, but it's nice to see what is replacing it.
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What's wrong with the 810, i have an m9 and an lg g flex 2. I play hours of 3d games like contest of champions, clash and psx emulator, and It doesnt either explode or cause third degree burns. It gets pretty much as hot as my nexus 6 which is 805.
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Everything I've read says it throttles very aggressively, sometimes for no obvious reason, causing lag and other performance issues. I've seen other people say it overheats just browsing the web. Of course these are just random people on the internet and you can't believe what they say.
I played with an M9 at the Verizon store the other day when I was helping my friend pick out a new phone and it got very hot very fast and began to stutter and lag. Granted it was plugged in and was running whatever demo stuff they load onto it, so that could have been the cause.
My Nexus 6 never gets hot, or even warm, with my use. I'm sure the 6P would be fine with stock Android and no bloat, but I still don't want an 810 powered device.
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The 6P looks like a really nice phone, but there are 5 things stopping me from buying one:
- Smaller screen (I'm the type of guy that could carry a 7 inch tablet as a phone and not whine)
- Snapdragon 810 (pure trash)
- Made by Huawei (never heard of them before)
- My Nexus 6 gets the best reception of any phone I've ever owned and I don't want to lose that
- I just bought a Nexus 6 in June and another July (went swimming with my first one :crying: ) and can't justify spending another $650 on the 6P
I'll wait for the 2016, or possibly even the 2017 Nexus phones.
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Everything I've read says it throttles very aggressively, sometimes for no obvious reason, causing lag and other performance issues. I've seen other people say it overheats just browsing the web. Of course these are just random people on the internet and you can't believe what they say.
I played with an M9 at the Verizon store the other day when I was helping my friend pick out a new phone and it got very hot very fast and began to stutter and lag. Granted it was plugged in and was running whatever demo stuff they load onto it, so that could have been the cause.
My Nexus 6 never gets hot, or even warm, with my use. I'm sure the 6P would be fine with stock Android and no bloat, but I still don't want an 810 powered device.
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Have you even read actual xda forums for the m9? There's about a billion roms and the ones who post about throttling are usually non-owners like you that believe these things even when they don't actually own the phone. Everybody has the right to choose, but I feel bad for you for making decisions based on awful information.
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Have you even read actual xda forums for the m9? There's about a billion roms and the ones who post about throttling are usually non-owners like you that believe these things even when they don't actually own the phone. Everybody has the right to choose, but I feel bad for you for making decisions based on awful information.
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I don't own an M9, so why would I read the M9 forums? The 810 isn't the only reason I'm not buying one. The main reasons are:
- I've bought 2 Nexus 6's this year so another new phone is not in my budget
- I've never heard of Hauwei so I'm a little reluctant to drop $500+ on a phone from a company I've never heard of before
Just because you have never heard of them ..... They are the 4th largest phone manufacturer in the world ahead of lg etc
Most have never heard of companies like xiaomi or one plus
Either ....
Doesn't mean they don't make quality tech
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/29/samsung-worlds-biggest-smartphone-manufacturer
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Here's the deal guys...
The shamu is an amazing phone
The nexus 6p is an amazing phone
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doitright said:
I actually feel that it is a step backwards. Yeah sure, its a "64bit" and can fix up the disk encryption performance problems, but overall, the SD810 is actually WEAKER than the 805. I *certainly* wouldn't spend any money to switch over, especially going from a premium brand like Motorola (and yes, it is still a premium brand) to a bottom rung like Huawei.
Now if everybody had gotten their a**es in gear and made this an SD820, then I would really be in a situation of regretting having purchased the 805 and not just holding onto the 8260A for a few more months. I will not buy a new phone every year -- 2 year min lifespan for me.
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Times have changed. Huawei and other chinese makers are anything but noname companies. However,I wouldnt buy a Nexus 6p. The design is just horrible.
I think the 6p is better than the Nexus 6 in any way imaginable. Its a total upgrade across the board and according to all the reviews pouring in, the S810 performs wonderfully on the new nexus.
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