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Hi there everyone,
I just got an HTC Touch and I would love to be able to get a modern English translation of Bible on it. Specifically I am thinking of the NIV or possibly the NKJV.
Top features I am looking for are:
1) Easy to read on screen. Should be readable for practical use including reading out load in groups. Perhaps something out there has configurable font sizes?
2) Easy to navigate to desired passage (book, chapter, verse)
3) Basic search functionality so I can enter words like “apart law testify” and get passages such as Romans 3:21. The search functionality should be comparable to that of www.biblegateway.com - currently one of my most used resources.
Optional features that might be nice but not critical might be:
1) Bookmarks: So I can prepare a lesson and have bookmarks for relevant passages. If the bookmarks could be color-coded, numbered of have labels attached this might make it easier for me to know which bookmark to use at which point during the lesson.
2) Translation independence. Perhaps the software could be independent of the translation used and additional translations (RSV, NIV, ASV, etc...) could be purchased and loaded into the same software.
3) Personal notes: If I could enter my own personal notes and have them automatically date/time stamped and stay with a passage that might be nice.
4) A Windows XP/Vista version: if the software had a desktop version that might be nice but not at all necessary.
I realize such software is most likely to be commercial (particularly because the NIV is copyrighted to Zondervan) but if I could get something with the top 3 features I would happily pay for it.
Best regards,
The Fish.
Try www.OliveTree.com
They have the NIV and a few Bibles for the HTC Touch...
thanks
Drew
Try e-sword.net as well. (pocket e-sword) It is a free program and I think works great. I have not used olivetree before though. How do they compare?
thefish123 said:
Hi there everyone,
I just got an HTC Touch and I would love to be able to get a modern English translation of Bible on it. Specifically I am thinking of the NIV or possibly the NKJV.
Top features I am looking for are:
1) Easy to read on screen. Should be readable for practical use including reading out load in groups. Perhaps something out there has configurable font sizes?
2) Easy to navigate to desired passage (book, chapter, verse)
3) Basic search functionality so I can enter words like “apart law testify” and get passages such as Romans 3:21. The search functionality should be comparable to that of www.biblegateway.com - currently one of my most used resources.
Optional features that might be nice but not critical might be:
1) Bookmarks: So I can prepare a lesson and have bookmarks for relevant passages. If the bookmarks could be color-coded, numbered of have labels attached this might make it easier for me to know which bookmark to use at which point during the lesson.
2) Translation independence. Perhaps the software could be independent of the translation used and additional translations (RSV, NIV, ASV, etc...) could be purchased and loaded into the same software.
3) Personal notes: If I could enter my own personal notes and have them automatically date/time stamped and stay with a passage that might be nice.
4) A Windows XP/Vista version: if the software had a desktop version that might be nice but not at all necessary.
I realize such software is most likely to be commercial (particularly because the NIV is copyrighted to Zondervan) but if I could get something with the top 3 features I would happily pay for it.
Best regards,
The Fish.
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http://www.olivetree.com/pocketpc/
That's the best I've ever used and I've been using them for over 6 years since way back when I only had a palm. Their Reader is independent from the bibles so you can have multiple bibles. You can also install the reader to main memory and install bibles onto storage card (in my case I have some in storage and some in main memory since I'm still having the random data loss issue on my Touch.) They have a number of free translations and then you can also purchase other translations for a reasonable price. And the reader itself is free so you can pick it up along with some free bibles to try out for a while. I'm sure you'll like it
Top Features:
1. Configurable font sizes - Check.
2. Easy to navigate - check. It has configurable scrolling so you can scroll by page, verse, chapter, or auto scrolling (goes line by line continuously great for reading out loud).
3. Basic search - Check
Optional Features
1. Bookmarks - Check
2. Translation independence - check
3. Personal notes - check
4. Windows Version - Check (maybe). They have a desktop assistant that's supposed to have some of the features of the mobile reader. But I've never given it a try so I can't vouch for it. Desktop assistant is $7 - http://www.olivetree.com/download/desktop/screenshots.php
~Xen
I personally prefer Laridian:
http://www.laridian.com
Cheers,
Romek
Hi everyone,
It looks like I accidentally started two threads on the same topic. Sorry about that.
So far I have received three recommendations:
Laridian
Olive Tree
Pocket e-sword
Are these the only real players with this kind of a product? If so it should be pretty easy for me to try all three I appreciate your help in this. So far I think I am tilting in the direction of Olive Tree.
I actually use Mobipocket and love it. Have used it since my PDA days and have the KJV for it.
I recomend Olivetree
I have used this product for over 5 years on a Palm and just recently switched to a Touch. It has everything I could think of and has all the major versions including the original languages. There are vast selection of resources available and base package is free. You pay only for copytrighted material.
Highly recomended!
Touch_Pete
If youre willing to spend some money I suggest Quick Verse mobile 2007. It is a truly multimedia bible that even my non-techy wife was impressed with.
Virtuostic said:
Try e-sword.net as well. (pocket e-sword) It is a free program and I think works great. I have not used olivetree before though. How do they compare?
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I absolutely love e-sword but I haven't been able to make work on my vogue, installed from cab. If anyone has been able to get to work properly please share how.
thanks
I recommend OliveTree. I've been using it since I owned a Palm Tungsten E. When I switched to a Windows Mobile device, I discovered that the Bibles I purchased for the Palm also had the Bibles in the Windows format!!
does anyone know how to ge pocketbible 4 laridian for free??
http://www.dl4pda.com/software-download/180-pocketbible-4-library-gold-edition.html
i've already download this...
its a gold edition pocketbible4
17 Bibles
14 Commentaries
8 Dictionaries
8 Other Reference Books
12 Devotionals & Bible Reading Plans
God Bless..
flux_05 said:
http://www.dl4pda.com/software-download/180-pocketbible-4-library-gold-edition.html
i've already download this...
its a gold edition pocketbible4
17 Bibles
14 Commentaries
8 Dictionaries
8 Other Reference Books
12 Devotionals & Bible Reading Plans
God Bless..
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TNX for IT
SciFer said:
I absolutely love e-sword but I haven't been able to make work on my vogue, installed from cab. If anyone has been able to get to work properly please share how.
thanks
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I have the Touch also and installed using the exe file located on his website -http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/downloads.html
SciFer said:
I absolutely love e-sword but I haven't been able to make work on my vogue, installed from cab. If anyone has been able to get to work properly please share how.
thanks
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I got a vogue in December, and I had installed and was using e-sword (which I have been using on my pc and several pda's for years) until I went from WM6 to WM6.1. I have uninstalled and reinstalled several times, and it won't load when I try to open it. I have also installed Olive Tree and Laridian and I'm evaluating them. So, so far I can't tell you how to get it working properly, but depending on the version of WM you are running, it seems e-sword might have a conflict with 6.1
Pocket e-Sword
Running fine for me with wm6.1, program installed in memory, Bibles and commentaries on storage card.
Yes, I can confirm VZYGuy's experience. I installed e-Sword on a Sprint Vogue and it works flawlessly. I installed everything to the storage card. And Incidentally, I had already purchased a number of premium modules for my desktop PC version of e-sword and managed to convert those to a pocket version. Works great. The sad thing is, I recently purchase Laridian for the Pocket PC because a number of people had said that e-Sword was not so good on the Pocket version. After using Laridian for a few weeks, I decided to go ahead and load Pocket e-Sword. Honestly and IMHO, e-Sword is far more functional, feature rich, intuitive, and pleasing for what I would like out of a Bible program. Wish that I would have tried e-Sword first (thought I was going to have to re-purchase all the premium modules I had and that discouraged me as well).
Here are my phone parameters:
OS: WM 6.1a
Base ROM Ver: 3.02 with DHarvey's Vista Black (awesome)
Radio Ver: 3.42.30
Storage Card: PNY SD 4GB
EliteXen said:
http://www.olivetree.com/pocketpc/
~Xen
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x2 for OliveTree
I'm happy for those of you who who are still able to use E-Sword, however it still isn't working for me. I reinstalled E-Sword and one Bible module. No go. I have a US Cellular Vogue with WM 6.1, Rom 3.01.573.4, Radio 3.43.30, and an 8 gig Kingston card. I'm currently running M2D, which I had not installed when E-Sword stopped working. It worked until I installed WM 6.1 Just like activesync. At least being able to access GPS makes up for the loss of E-Sword and the hassle with activesync.
I found the answer in another thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1772770&postcount=103 The problem Pocket E-Sword has is with .Net CF 3.5 which I have on my Vogue. Since I can't remember which program I installed which needed this, I will get by with PocketBible and BibleReader until Rick gets the problem sorted out. Since 3.5 is going to be required by more programs, this incompatibility will hopefully be reconciled at some point.
Hello dear friends! I am new to this forum.
...Well not entirely new as i was reading up things here already...
1. Is there a way to change the font color of the home screen? (Some backgrounds are too bright)
2. Why is the wallpaper quality (home screen) worse compared to the quality when you open directly?
3. Is it possible to use the small qwerty layout when using GSen, so that you can write with both hands? It would surely speed up writing.
4. Is it possible to update things such as wheather info and the rss hub as soon as the device is connected to the internet via activesync? Both things need the user to start the update...
5. btw: Is there a better rss program avaiable?
6. Is there a way to write sms with outlook?
7. Is there a free dictionary avaiable on the internet (englisch<->german et vice versa)?
8. Is there a calculator which a) looks better b) the ability to plot / solve equations? (i already know "realcalculator")
9. Is there a program that is better than the explorer from microsoft? (I hate that there is no "back button"!)
10. Is there an snes emulator? (I have a snes and 40+ games. I just want to play some mario kart... )
Best regards
p.s. As a little gift because I am new here, I'll provide some of my self-made wallpapers. I hope you like them.
hi and welcome
and thanks
ehm, i can't answer all your questiosn since i only got my Diamond yesterday, but, i'll answer what i can.
4. the weather issue seems to want to connect off a data connection from the phone... so i don't know if theres a fix, but i have not seen one.
5. try spb insight
8. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411561 has a much better looking calculator imo
9. try installing SPB pocket plus to boost your default xplorer's capabilites. otherwise, try resco explorer (pay for it) or Total commander (free)
10. Pocket SNES is the one... Look for the TNT 19209 rom's Vanilla fun package in the Wizard Rom forum, or google for it.
where can i get SNES Roms from? if it isnt allowed to speak of them then im sorry in advance
Thanks
hey dude, here. It'll get you started. Please try not to post stuff in threads that doesn't apply to the topic of the thread. You might end up on the wrong end of Jimmy's Hammer!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...ing SNES games on Windows Mobile (and Symbian)
Many thanks iceblade911 and Vampire2800!
It would be nice if someone has an idea for number one. :/
I can hardly read the tasks one the home screen...
Thanks in advance!
I searched and got nothing in the forum about homebrew, so i figured i'd ask about it. Is it possible for us with this phone to do any of the homebrew stuff out there? I have been without my laptop so cannot really try anything yet, but I see articles about little apps and aesthetic changes people are doing to their Samsung and HTC wp7 phones and i want in on it too.
I loved that homebrew community when i had my Palm Pre back in the day and had it hacked to my liking. I really hope we can do this with our phones too. I have looked into it a little but, but i don't think the guys who have done the unlocking and developing for wp7 have used, tried or have access to our phone. I really hope I'm wrong and just haven't had any luck searching for answers, but so far i haven't really found anything specifically stating whether anything works on the DVP yet.
If they have, could someone point me in the right direction and i'll continue learning on my own? If not, then i hope we can some day.
Thanks for any help y'all can provide.
I'm looking to attack this problem from the other end. I'm the developer of one of those "little apps" you mentioned; specifically the one that lets you change the Search function in IE (when you hit the Search button or mis-type a URL).
I'm working with a homebrew library that more-or-less handles HTC, Samsung, and LG, but completely doesn't support Dell. I'd like to get it working with Dell so that
A) You all can use my app
B) More homebrew apps can be written for the DVP
Some questions that I have (answers to any are appreciated):
How can I programmatically identify a Dell phone? (On an HTC, you can check for HKLM\Software\HTC in the registry.)
Does anybody have ProvisionXML working on the Venue Pro yet? (This is a really handy way to make changes to the OS.)
Does anybody have a way to get access to the file system, even read-only, on the Venue Pro?
Thanks a bunch. In the meantime (and possibly helpful to this cause) there's a homebrew project called "Functional Webserver" in the WP7 Hacking forum. It should work on Dell phones (I think) and means you should have at least Socket (networking) APIs. It also gives (read-only) access to the \Windows directory, which may be very useful for getting other stuff...
GoodDayToDie said:
I'm looking to attack this problem from the other end. I'm the developer of one of those "little apps" you mentioned; specifically the one that lets you change the Search function in IE (when you hit the Search button or mis-type a URL).
I'm working with a homebrew library that more-or-less handles HTC, Samsung, and LG, but completely doesn't support Dell. I'd like to get it working with Dell so that
A) You all can use my app
B) More homebrew apps can be written for the DVP
Some questions that I have (answers to any are appreciated):
How can I programmatically identify a Dell phone? (On an HTC, you can check for HKLM\Software\HTC in the registry.)
Does anybody have ProvisionXML working on the Venue Pro yet? (This is a really handy way to make changes to the OS.)
Does anybody have a way to get access to the file system, even read-only, on the Venue Pro?
Thanks a bunch. In the meantime (and possibly helpful to this cause) there's a homebrew project called "Functional Webserver" in the WP7 Hacking forum. It should work on Dell phones (I think) and means you should have at least Socket (networking) APIs. It also gives (read-only) access to the \Windows directory, which may be very useful for getting other stuff...
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I would like to submit my services to help you get that information... However, I'm not really sure how to get that to you. If you'd be happy to lay out directions so I can get you that information, I'll happily do it on my Dell Venue Pro.
Thanks for the help!
@nabiscuit Thanks for the offer. The first step is making sure your phone is developer-unlocked, so you can side-load (install directly, not from Marketplace) XAP application packages. All homebrew apps are distributed in this way. The official way to do this is to have a Microsoft developer account (http://create.msdn.com/) although for the next few weeks ChevronWP7 should also work.
For the first question, try installing a Registry Viewer or Registry Editor app - there are a number of them available, both on this site and on TouchXperience (I like the TouchXperience one a lot). Go poke around for anything that looks like a distinctive registry key or value. The most likely place is under HKLM. You could also just do a registry search (the better apps have at least some capability for such searches) for "Dell" as *anything* with that string is probably distinctive.
For the second, it will take access to native code. Using the "Functional Webserver" app you can download some file from the phone's /Windows directory. Checking them for useful COM exports would be helpful, although I'm not the person to ask about doing that - I can do NT drivers and I can do managed code, but COM is not my thing. Try asking for help with this in the general Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=606).
For the third question, I could actually whip up a small app that *might* work already. You could also try Advanced Explorer (XDA) or TouchXplorer (TouchXperience) although I don't think either is guaranteed to work outside of HTC phones. If you're willing to try running an app that will check for read and write in a number of harmless parts of the file system, I can code one up for you to run and report results back.
Thanks again!
I'd love to get some homebrew development going, is there anything I can do to help?
Try getting in touch with notebookgrail (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3174632) as he seems to be pulling apart the DVP native libraries and finding lots of cool stuff to do with their COM interfaces. I don't know if he has registry write yet - one of the core functions that a lot of homebrew apps want - but if so I can work on getting it integrated into a nice cross-device library for writing apps which (should... grrr Samsung) work on any phone.
GoodDayToDie said:
Try getting in touch with jessej (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3220709) as he seems to be pulling apart the DVP native libraries and finding lots of cool stuff to do with their COM interfaces. I don't know if he has registry write yet - one of the core functions that a lot of homebrew apps want - but if so I can work on getting it integrated into a nice cross-device library for writing apps which (should... grrr Samsung) work on any phone.
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Did u mean to point it to me as i was the one who did pull apart the native libs.?
If not, sorry for the intrusion.
Yes, send your request to notebookgrail. I am not on his level for development purposes. But I do appreciate the comment.
Whoops, sorry about that notebookgrail! I must have looked at a response instead of the OP by accident. I've fixed my post above. Thanks a bunch for the work you've done. Any word on registry writing?
any progress?
Folks, Now that we have opened Native COM Access for Dell Venue Pro, is there anything in particular that the community wants. If so, please chime in with your requests and i will see if i can build an app for it.
Current Work in Progress:
1. Registry Write access(will take sometime)
It's so minor, but getting custom accent colors would be great.
notebookgrail said:
Folks, Now that we have opened Native COM Access for Dell Venue Pro, is there anything in particular that the community wants. If so, please chime in with your requests and i will see if i can build an app for it.
Current Work in Progress:
1. Registry Write access(will take sometime)
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as soon as it is released wmpu will cover it so far registry access is good enough!
A default search selector would be awesome.
Has there been any progress with the registry write access?
maybe this is a mango issue, but could you re-access the camera flash for a flashlight?
also how about a file explorer, or at least a way to add custom alerts (for text messages)
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maybe this is a mango issue, but could you re-access the camera flash for a flashlight?
also how about a file explorer, or at least a way to add custom alerts (for text messages)
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Mango has killed everything. Unless there is a way to use the 'ID_INTEROPSERVICES' in the manifest file, its going no where. MS killed using that feature to access COM files/resources when sideloading.
How are htc & samsung phones still able to sideload after updating to the mango rtm?
efjay said:
How are htc & samsung phones still able to sideload after updating to the mango rtm?
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carrying over the ability through the previous oems for the most part
seriously that's how
but I realize if a user doesn't eventually reset after an os update instability can happen so its like meh
So, I bought my Nexus 7 because it was conveniently launched around the time I was looking for a good portable computing device for some college classes. For the most part, it has been working great. But, one of my classes is Ancient Greek, and the Nexus 7 does not come supporting the unicode characters necessary to read the web-based textbook in Chrome (it has the core Greek alphabet, but not the accented characters).
One other app that I was using was AnkiDroid. I discovered I could load custom fonts in AnkiDroid, but they are only used when displaying flash cards (in other words the app's normal UI screens still rely on system fonts). So, I was still stuck not being able to see the characters I need even in an app that had some customization of fonts.
So, I started toying around with the fonts in /system/fonts. It turns out this is a bad idea. Renaming the original fonts and symlinking them all to a unicode font resulted in my device not being able to get past the boot-up logo. Fortunately I was able to use CWM Recovery to fix things back up (in case anyone else gets stuck in this mess, use the CWM touch options to mount /system and then use "adb shell" to go in and manually put everything back. If you deleted any original fonts you may have difficulty fixing it without a wipe/reflash)
Does anyone have a good way to get Unicode font support on a Nexus 7?
BUMP. Has anybody got any clue why this device cannot show some of the more arcane characters in a Unicode typeface? My Nexus 7 is missing certain characters with diacritics (in Pali), rendering it useless for study support. Macs and PCs that I have worked on have no problems doing this.
AW: Incomplete Unicode Fonts
I searched for 'Pali font' in Google Play and found this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anysoftkeyboard.languagepack.pali. The description has a link that shows how to install suitable fonts.
An advance...
elmicha said:
I searched for 'Pali font' in Google Play and found this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anysoftkeyboard.languagepack.pali. The description has a link that shows how to install suitable fonts.
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Elmicha, thank you.
I had downloaded the Pali ASK but no keyboard was visible - I only today discover that it was only the font set that I had downloaded(!) and so quickly got the keyboard!
I notice that, while you have kindly pointed me to a link, you don't indicate that you actually use this. Do you? If so could you - or anybody! - confirm whether you do or don't still miss certain diacritics, esp. the dotted n' - I only get a '~n' on a long press. I have installed a suitable font ('fallback') using the Font Installer app. (I hope) and restarted thereafter which gave me the ~n.
Sorry, no, I don't know any Indian languages (apart from English). But maybe somebody else can test it.