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Before you get too excited this isn't a fix to the key mapping issue, it is simply me explaining how I've set up the keys to make games be playable on both emulators. with this set up they do work pretty well though.
FpseCE
First of all your going to want a frameskip of 0. With the snapdragon processor I've found that for the games I've tried at least it just makes them slower to add a frameskip.
Now for the keys. First open up the phone and then push the top left of the screen to go into portrait mode with the keys open. Your going to want to set the controller type to dual shock. Once that's done go into multikey. Push buttons 1-8 in order and unselect any buttons that are already highlighted and in use. then go back to 1 and start setting up your keys. This is how I set up mine.
Mutikey PS Controller Key Expo Key
1 Square Left
2 Circle Right
3 Triangle Up
4 X Down
5 R1 Camera Button
6 L1 Applications Button
7 Start Space Bar
8 Select Backspace
For racing games I switch the X and the R1 button because for some reason every time I pushed another key while holding X it would make me press X again to go again. Switching those two keys fixes that problem.
If you want to try and set up it differently for a certain game here is a list of all the keys that work for the LG Expo. (Left, Right, Up, Down, Space Bar, Enter/Ok (two buttons act as the same entry), Backspace, Camera Button, Application Button, Volume Up, Volume down)
Then go out of mutikey by pushing the back button on the phone. Go back to the controller and push the down arrow to set up the analog stick. Click on the box below the left analog stick until it shows a PSP looking device with the screen lit.
Push back on your phone and go into screen mapping. I prefer the 5 by 3 grid. Tap on the middle left most spot and change the control to left analog stick, an L with a circle around it. Make sure the input type is the arrows pointing both ways meaning it will only stay pressed as long as you press it. Then go to icon and change it to a target looking icon with a circle and a circle around it.
Now you're ready to play. Make the game full screen again and now your screen is the analog stick. Anywhere on the screen will actually activate the analog stick. What I do is put my thumb under the image on the screen so I can check and see which way it is facing without lifting my thumb.
MorphGear
The keys that work with MorphGear are the same as with FpseCE and those are (Left, Right, Up, Down, Space Bar, Enter/Ok (two buttons act as the same entry), Backspace, Camera Button, Application Button, Volume Up, Volume down).
I only play GBA games with my phone, so for other systems you may need to set them up differently, although these should work the same for the GB, GBC, NES, and many SNES games if not some others.
For up, down, left, and right I use those same buttons on the keyboard. I then use the Camera Button, Application Button and OK buttons for A, B, and R in different variations depending on the game I'm playing. Then use Volume Up and Volume Down for Start and Select. I put the Space Bar as the L button, but I don't intend on playing games that use it for anything else than occasional use.
If you were to play games that consistently use the L button you could either use Ok and Space Bar for A and B and then use the Camera Button and Application Button for the R and L buttons. However many games would also require you to press A and B at the same time so you would probably have to switch the A and B and the Start and Select buttons. it would be a bit weird holding the phone to play games with the A and B at the volume keys (most of the reason I avoid games that require use of the L key), but it would be playable.
Well, I hope all this helps.
You had me pretty excited there for a minute. Thanks for the info though.
Thanks for your excellent post! Would it be possible for you to upload your fpseCE configuration file? I am having problems getting fpseCE working, every rom i load just exits the program...
thendless said:
Thanks for your excellent post! Would it be possible for you to upload your fpseCE configuration file? I am having problems getting fpseCE working, every rom i load just exits the program...
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First of all it might just be the version of fpsece you're using. I had some issues with that myself for a bit. Make sure you're using fpsece 0.10. You can get that here.
http://perso.numericable.fr/schtruck/FpseCE_010.zip
I've also attached my fpse.ini file as well in case it isn't just the version you are using. You are still going to need to edit the keys for your games like I mentioned in my first post to get those properly working.
Just upgraded from Nexus One to Xperia Play. Liking the gamepad so far, disliking the terrible Sony Ericsson UI and bloatware! Looking forward to root when available, then hopefully a decent custom ROM. This has the potential to be the ultimate gamers device, with the right support...
I have a little tip for those of you running FPse. In order to best imitate the PSX controller, I have mapped the L2/R2 keys to the volume up/down keys. It works pretty well, and whilst not totally comfortable for games that require a lot of use of the L2/R2 keys, it beats any alternative I have tried.
You won't be able to adjust the Media Volume in game, however if you press the Menu key, you can use the volume keys as normal.
Hope this helps!
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Just upgraded from Nexus One to Xperia Play. Liking the gamepad so far, disliking the terrible Sony Ericsson UI and bloatware! Looking forward to root when available, then hopefully a decent custom ROM. This has the potential to be the ultimate gamers device, with the right support...
I have a little tip for those of you running FPse. In order to best imitate the PSX controller, I have mapped the L2/R2 keys to the volume up/down keys. It works pretty well, and whilst not totally comfortable for games that require a lot of use of the L2/R2 keys, it beats any alternative I have tried.
You won't be able to adjust the Media Volume in game, however if you press the Menu key, you can use the volume keys as normal.
Hope this helps!
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Good to find someone else take the plunge from stock. I myself have come from Nexus one.
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yh thats a good tip, but i just like to use the onscreen L2/R2. i turn off all other virtual controls so they are not present on the screen and i move the L2/R2 ones to the bottom of the screen so you can access them easily and quickly.
What version of FPSE are you using.
I cant seem to map the X and O button on mine.
Very irritating.
well i've been using 10.17. i've never had trouble mapping X or O in any emulator. what exactly is happening to you? maybe try posting a video or something? it's hard to provide a solution without seeing it in action im afraid.
Why not just use psx4droid its not on the market, but you can still get it on the devs site!
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Far better with Fpse
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Coming from the Nexus One as well. Sold it last week and have to wait another whole week at least "Androidless".
Can't wait! Thanks for the interesting read btw!
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What version of FPSE are you using.
I cant seem to map the X and O button on mine.
Very irritating.
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I have the exact same problem!
I goto the "hardware keys" section in the settings of FPSE, go down to 'cross' press X and it says 'press a key' and it wont accept the X button! Same with the 'circle' except it exits out!
Grrrrrrrr.
always press the power button when playing action game like street fighter EX2.
the power button design is really a failure
playing mario kart (SNES) most of the time thou
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I have the exact same problem!
I goto the "hardware keys" section in the settings of FPSE, go down to 'cross' press X and it says 'press a key' and it wont accept the X button! Same with the 'circle' except it exits out!
Grrrrrrrr.
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me 2 cant figure out that damn X button
uccoffee said:
always press the power button when playing action game like street fighter EX2.
the power button design is really a failure
playing mario kart (SNES) most of the time thou
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I am convinced different xperia play models exist.
It is impossible to hit my power button when using the pad. I can try my hardest to knock the power button even when using L1 and fail every time.
Power buton is hidden away nicely on my play.
Strange.
For people having trouble mapping certain keys try selecting them on screen in the menu with your finger then press X to map it.
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dsswoosh said:
I am convinced different xperia play models exist.
It is impossible to hit my power button when using the pad. I can try my hardest to knock the power button even when using L1 and fail every time.
Power buton is hidden away nicely on my play.
Strange.
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onethreethreeseven said:
I have the exact same problem!
I goto the "hardware keys" section in the settings of FPSE, go down to 'cross' press X and it says 'press a key' and it wont accept the X button! Same with the 'circle' except it exits out!
Grrrrrrrr.
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go down to cross but don't press X to select it .. you have to tab it with finger, and than press X.
Its a little bug, had the same problem, but i got to solve it in that way
uccoffee said:
always press the power button when playing action game like street fighter EX2.
the power button design is really a failure
playing mario kart (SNES) most of the time thou
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Finally someone that has the same issue as me
read my post in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038905&page=2
uccoffee said:
always press the power button when playing action game like street fighter EX2.
the power button design is really a failure
playing mario kart (SNES) most of the time thou
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see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13563791#post13563791
this seems to affect only a small amount of people. i think you guys might have dodgy power buttons???
In fpse when mapping out the PS keys how do you map the circle key? Everything i try it just exits when i press circle any help would be great
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nobody knows how to properly map the circle key?
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nobody knows how to properly map the circle key?
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Got a Xperia Play today and the first thing I did was installing snes9x EX. I had exactly the same problem, mapping the circle key seemed to work ok as the other buttons, but when I tried to play any game all worked fine 'til I used the circle-key (then it acted like I was pressing the "back" button on the phone).
This was VERY annoying but I found a solution. Atleast in Snes9x EX. In the options --> key config I just set the "Exit"-key (which default was mapped as "back") to "None". So now the circle-button is working as it should when playing snes-games. Actually it still is mapped as "back" (and pressing the "back"-button does the same as the circle-key - this is by the way how the two buttons seem to act by default on the phone) but it works
Sorry for my bad english, and hope this helps. I'll try install the psx emu tomorrow.
hmm, how 's the way i should ask.....forgive my language not so well......
my problem is: when i full screen for gaming, the cm7's status bar will hide down, and when i want to exit the game but the game dont have exit button. i dont know how to get back the status bar (back) from hidden.......
and every times exit the game i have to press on/off button and release the ram memory by 360* (*a widget from china made anti virus) then the game will erase and exit.
Install a app such a zmooth. It puts a little touchpad at the bottom of your screen, where you can use 3 gestures for home, menu and back. Works in all windows, such as fullscreen games or apps.
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Install a app such a zmooth. It puts a little touchpad at the bottom of your screen, where you can use 3 gestures for home, menu and back. Works in all windows, such as fullscreen games or apps.
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thx to you~!!! dude, it's working~
Menu> settings> cyanogenmod settings> tablet tweaks> disable fullscreen
Choose the other softbuttons you want here too, like a home button on the notification bar!
Otherwise, choose power buttons menu and add a back button... Home button is on the power screen by default.
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Menu> settings> cyanogenmod settings> tablet tweaks> disable fullscreen
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Be aware that disabling fullscreen may cause UI issues on some games and apps where the controls and text get mashed together. Real Racing 2 on mine had the controls and menu selections all mashed up on top of each other until I re-enabled fullscreen.
Another way is to add back button to power button settings
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I really like this here https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smart.swkey for a few reasons. I can have it almost completely hidden (I watch a lot of videos and want the least amount of distraction) and you can also long press on them (which also works with cm's mods) so if you have the option set to kill foreground app via long pressing back button, it will work with button savoir, another example would be... I have holding menu button hides/shows the status bar via cm settings, that works with button savoir (actually that does not even work with cm's built in soft keys) I'm thinking about buying the license key so i can remove/customize the buttons but I haven't yet. I'm kinda holding out for cm 9/ICS. My experience with the unstable builds are that navigation is very well done and I might not feel the need for any third party navigation method.
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I really like this here https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smart.swkey for a few reasons. I can have it almost completely hidden (I watch a lot of videos and want the least amount of distraction) and you can also long press on them (which also works with cm's mods) so if you have the option set to kill foreground app via long pressing back button, it will work with button savoir, another example would be... I have holding menu button hides/shows the status bar via cm settings, that works with button savoir (actually that does not even work with cm's built in soft keys) I'm thinking about buying the license key so i can remove/customize the buttons but I haven't yet. I'm kinda holding out for cm 9/ICS. My experience with the unstable builds are that navigation is very well done and I might not feel the need for any third party navigation method.
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That would be my choice as well yes, I've had it running on my KF since day one. Havn't bought a license key more for the fact that the only time I need it is when I need a back or menu button from within a fullscreen app
Looked around and didn't see this being brought up. Is there away to out the multitasking app instead of the menu button and bring back the 3 dot menu button back in apps? Hate freaking menu buttons and having to long press the home.
I remember figuring out a way to add software nav buttons on an S4 manually by editing some lines in the system but since the soft nav bar is already present I don't think that would work. Any ideas? Thanks.
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Root, and there's a few nav bar replacements in the play store that autohide as well.
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Looked around and didn't see this being brought up. Is there away to out the multitasking app instead of the menu button and bring back the 3 dot menu button back in apps? Hate freaking menu buttons and having to long press the home.
I remember figuring out a way to add software nav buttons on an S4 manually by editing some lines in the system but since the soft nav bar is already present I don't think that would work. Any ideas? Thanks.
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I'm with you, I think its stupid to have a dedicated menu button when android already has this covered.
The apps the poster above is speaking of does not fix this issue as it also hides the buttons, which is just dumb. Just be patient, I'm sure we will have a fix soon!
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This may be my only gripe about this phone, I have tried several of the options, but you have to hide it or tour home screen icons in the dock get lost.
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While using the Note 2 I was able to go to the (root) system file and mess with the nav bar. Im going to play with this in a few. I'll report back.
jmill75 said:
While using the Note 2 I was able to go to the (root) system file and mess with the nav bar. Im going to play with this in a few. I'll report back.
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With the S4 I was able to manually add the On screen nav buttons with a line of code. Default android soft buttons are back home and multitask LG edited that to the menu button which is annoying. Let me know what you find. I'm going to try some stuff my self
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While I would like to have a dedicated multitasking button, I don't think the menu button is a waste or stupid. There are still numerous apps that don't adhere to Google's new rules for a software menu button and they result in a black bar on the screen. LG dodged this by adding a dedicated software menu button. If you want to see how annoying it is, just pick up an HTC One (or DNA, or One X) and it will make more sense. What they did is emulate the Optimus G Pro (and Samsung's Touchwiz) with software buttons to give the same feel (hold home for multitasking, back and menu). I see why they did it. But yeah, it would be nice if they'd add an option for a multitasking button as either a fourth option or in place of the menu. It would certainly make more sense than the notification shade toggle.
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While I would like to have a dedicated multitasking button, I don't think the menu button is a waste or stupid. There are still numerous apps that don't adhere to Google's new rules for a software menu button and they result in a black bar on the screen. LG dodged this by adding a dedicated software menu button. If you want to see how annoying it is, just pick up an HTC One (or DNA, or One X) and it will make more sense. What they did is emulate the Optimus G Pro (and Samsung's Touchwiz) with software buttons to give the same feel (hold home for multitasking, back and menu). I see why they did it. But yeah, it would be nice if they'd add an option for a multitasking button as either a fourth option or in place of the menu. It would certainly make more sense than the notification shade toggle.
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The main reason I did not get the One was because of the stupid buttons. First not on screen and second only 2 buttons.
I do think it will only be a matter of time until someone makes a zip to add the recent button back. Wish I knew how
saywhat4118 said:
Looked around and didn't see this being brought up. Is there away to out the multitasking app instead of the menu button and bring back the 3 dot menu button back in apps? Hate freaking menu buttons and having to long press the home.
I remember figuring out a way to add software nav buttons on an S4 manually by editing some lines in the system but since the soft nav bar is already present I don't think that would work. Any ideas? Thanks.
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So my solution to this after 2 days of fiddling with the phone and trying EVERYTHING actually turned out for the better. The setup I have is using GMD gesture control for my buttons and auto hide navbar to have the navbar gone. This app let's you slide certain regions of the screen and trigger different conditions. I have no buttons at all on my screen and have slide functions that work perfect exactly where the Normal buttons would go. Slide up on the left is menu, slide in middle is home, and slide in right is recent apps. My back button is set by my thumb and it works out much better than I could have hoped.
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So my solution to this after 2 days of fiddling with the phone and trying EVERYTHING actually turned out for the better. The setup I have is using GMD gesture control for my buttons and auto hide navbar to have the navbar gone. This app let's you slide certain regions of the screen and trigger different conditions. I have no buttons at all on my screen and have slide functions that work perfect exactly where the Normal buttons would go. Slide up on the left is menu, slide in middle is home, and slide in right is recent apps. My back button is set by my thumb and it works out much better than I could have hoped.
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Thanks I'm going to try this.
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Apps that have their own 3-dot menu
Thanks for the research on this topic. Does anyone know if the GMD app allows an app to retain its 3-dot menu functionality? I've encountered several apps that won't work with the G2's menu softkey preventing you from accessing the app's options.
thanks in advance!
I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?
Jemand222 said:
I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?
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You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative
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You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative
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That's only for a hard press, so when locked, or in full screen for example. I don't think we can disable soft presses generally yet.
ElBeaner: Thanks for your help but thats not what I wanted.
I thought that there is no normal touch on the home button when all the reports came about the new force touch button. I was expecting that Samsung replaced the old button with the force feedback one. But they just added normal on screen buttons like they are on 100s of other android phones. And I really don't see no need for the force feedback button because all it does you can also do with touching the button and not pressing it.
It would be great if Samsung changes the behaviour so that only a real press on the home button is working and not the touch.
Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.
Skander1998 said:
Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.
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And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.
Actually I like the idea of pressure on the button as an option. We know it could be done if programmed right as the ability is right there, pressure sensitivity is built in under the screen.
This would be such a great idea. One of the reasons I hate onscreen buttons so much is that it's so easy to accidentally miss the space bar and tap the home button instead.
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Silly indeed
I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.
Moostafa29 said:
I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.
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You can press it to wake the phone up, you can press it to go home if you're watching a full screen movie or playing a game and the onscreen buttons aren't shown... ya i guess it's useless.
Interesting topic. So why has Samsung included a hard press home button? It doesn't​ do anything.
i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying
I'm pretty sure this is how the iPhone 7 home button works. It is not a physical button but a pressure sensitive area where the button used to be. Different actions for different amounts of pressure.
It would be great to have the whole display everytime and if you need the back button and the task manager button you could swipe them up (like on fullscreen apps) and you have always the sensitive home button. That would be 1cm more screen and no accidental clicks on the home button.
I guess that it has a reason why Samsung built a button but doesn't use it for real. And I found one possible reason: If you touch the display above the button and slide your finger to the center of the button you can't press it. You have to hit the button directly to press it.
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i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying
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Its been like this since forever on any nexus/pixel devices, get used to it.
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And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.
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I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.
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I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.
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Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
As for the rest of situation, soft press is more than enough to serve the function
So I dont really think enable only the hard press is actually a good idea.
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Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
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Thank you... why can't people understand this?