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Hey US users: Who's thinking of switching to a carrier version?

I'm looking at going with the larger screen T-Mobile mo to mo. First device on their high speed network. We'll have to look closely at the action of Qualcomm during the first 30 days.

Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.

BarryH_GEG said:
Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.
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I'm in complete agreement with you about the 'carrier' freedom. The only thing that really perturbs me is the reports of phone tweaking (example: how the ATT infuse 4g will get higher data speeds than the sgs ii with them sitting side by side) and if that pattern holds true I'd suspect that the American bastard step-child SGS II will out perform its untainted euro cousin.

I'm rather forced to use the upcoming T-mobile USA release due the band frequencies as the current International model is not compatible with 1700 / 2100

mostyle said:
I'm in complete agreement with you about the 'carrier' freedom. The only thing that really perturbs me is the reports of phone tweaking (example: how the ATT infuse 4g will get higher data speeds than the sgs ii with them sitting side by side) and if that pattern holds true I'd suspect that the American bastard step-child SGS II will out perform its untainted euro cousin.
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I know side by side with the International version that would happen but why vs the Infuse?

BarryH_GEG said:
Never. I've tasted freedom and won't go back. Not having to live with carrier hardware and software changes and being dependent on them for updates is a joy. For $10 a month I have unlimited fake-4G data and free tethering. When it's time to replace the SGS2 it will be with another carrier-unmolested phone. I just bought a 10.1 Tab and got if from the UK so I don't have to deal with all of the U.S. "customization." And T-Mobile sucks - I dumped them when I dumped my piece of crap G2X. Good luck if you have a problem with your phone. Their idea of overnight replacement takes 3-5 days. And every agent tells you something different - some are extremely competent the majority are idiots reading from a script. AT&T will have to dispose of some assets but there's no doubt the merger will go through. T-Mobile's lost 1MM post-paid subscribers so for this year. Then you're shiny new AWS banded phone will make a great paperweight once AT&T starts using the bands for LTE.
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Agreed. I'm even running on the "4g" phone apn. On AT&T OLAM, its recognized as Medianet.

I will get the version att has if it's the sgs2 internals with the physical keyboard.
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AllGamer said:
I'm rather forced to use the upcoming T-mobile USA release due the band frequencies as the current International model is not compatible with 1700 / 2100
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The problem there is that if the reports about the hardware specs are true, it won't really be a true sgs2.
Qualcomm instead of exynos? that would make it a pos disguised as an sgs2.
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rockky said:
I'm looking at going with the larger screen T-Mobile mo to mo. First device on their high speed network. We'll have to look closely at the action of Qualcomm during the first 30 days.
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Wait, when did TMO get a high speed network I've realized the best devices I've owned have all been unmolested by any US carrier. Last device I really loved before the SGS2 was the Nexus One. So I really can't see myself giving up my unbranded international version. Case in point is the transition to the Qualcomm processor. If it's anything like the performance I get with my Sensation, that's a big step down from the exynos. I'll be more than happy holding on to my SGS2 until something like the Nexus 3 or SGS3 drops

Why i choose SIM-Free international galaxy s3 for my AT&T in USA

I know LTE speeds are not achieved with international SIM-Free S3. I can trade-off that one feature for many other things. I use Non-smartphone plan for 15$ vs 25$(LTE) a month which is pretty cool with unlimited data and i get speed up to 1.5Mbps(which is ok as i have wifi availability everywhere). Importantly the hardware, there is a possibility of Krait processor coming in for LTE handsets(rumor as heard). I don't want to take chances of losing Wolfson DAC this time(US LTE variants might have a different chipset).
Share your thoughts.

I am getting the international version because when I got my skyrocket I sold it right away profiting $500. I got the phone for FREE.
That being said, I live in the LA area and there is 4G LTE. But I have a limited data plan anyways and always have WiFi at work and at home (fios).
I'd rather have the Wolf, and Exynos over the S4 as the Exynos blows the S4 and Tegra 3 out of the water.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview

U guys are yanks right? I think you should wait till the American branded versions are out.
There's a possibility they could be better with a much more appealing design.
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Agreed, but if all you're getting is 1.5Mbps, then I would scream bloody murder. I'm in Austin, TX and using international SGS2 on AT&T and get up to 7.5Mbps...!

I am on that plan and get avg 3-5mbs with mine. I have gotten 7-8mbs a few times and 12mbs at 1AM.
I just used 109GB on that plan and not a peep out of AT&T. LOL

I am going with international, if the ATT version ends up looking better or for some reason have better specs, than I will just buy that on contract and sell the international version. Not really worried about lte.
Also now that the ATT htc x one is the only version with a locked bootloader I am very hesitant to wait for the SIII ATT version.

diehard2222 said:
U guys are yanks right? I think you should wait till the American branded versions are out.
There's a possibility they could be better with a much more appealing design.
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I highly doubt it, there is a big chance it will be using the S4.

varunkumars said:
I know LTE speeds are not achieved with international SIM-Free S3. I can trade-off that one feature for many other things. I use Non-smartphone plan for 15$ vs 25$(LTE) a month which is pretty cool with unlimited data and i get speed up to 1.5Mbps(which is ok as i have wifi availability everywhere). Importantly the hardware, there is a possibility of Krait processor coming in for LTE handsets(rumor as heard). I don't want to take chances of losing Wolfson DAC this time(US LTE variants might have a different chipset).
Share your thoughts.
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I am getting close to 3MPS DL (provisioned on MediaNet, not Smartphone) As long as I can stream movie trailers without hiccups Its all good. Thats about the only time we use Carrier data while at a restruant deciding what movie to see...We have not used an ATT branded phones since the Captivate and won't be buying any soon except to sell.
We are saving over $600 a year on two smart phones. Plus the sale of the upgrades. It's an easy decision to buy the International versions on so many levels. even IF ATT had the IMEIs and billed for a Smart Phone in whcih case we go to Straight Talk. We don't need LTE for anything .
And the Wolfson DAC AFTER Supercurio does his magic is well worth the price of entry. But like all of our International devices so far SGS IIs and a Note, we buy used. Don't need a warranty as I void it anyway rooting and ROMming...LOL
Thee should be used ones becoming available in a couple months. In the mean time let the early adopters discover the issues and the Developers fix em. I can wait..........I think........or not.

Yea I choose to get the unlocked international version to ream att. For $15 I get unlimited data and I usually pull 6 down and 2 up. I can stream netflix, hulu, rdio and tunein radio without worrying about data usage.
not to mention hd video podcasts that i download all the time to my phone with doggcatcher ... all of this and i didnt even mention torrenting lol
I go through about 40-50 gigs a month.

BuddyLee said:
Yea I choose to get the unlocked international version to ream att. For $15 I get unlimited data and I usually pull 6 down and 2 up. I can stream netflix, hulu, rdio and tunein radio without worrying about data usage.
not to mention hd video podcasts that i download all the time to my phone with doggcatcher ... all of this and i didnt even mention torrenting lol
I go through about 40-50 gigs a month.
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People brag about anything these days, even their own data usage.

greenstuffs said:
People brag about anything these days, even their own data usage.
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Only if you believe the BS

Can u guys post ur APN settings? Mine only gets 2mb down.
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Lancez said:
Can u guys post ur APN settings? Mine only gets 2mb down.
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You likely have the right settings. If you are not provisioned for a "Smart Phone" from ATT you will be on the MediaNet plan and your DL speeds will vary a lot and never really go that high,
. Mine go from 1.5 to 3mps. I have never had issues with streaming though when I needed.

tbong777 said:
You likely have the right settings. If you are not provisioned for a "Smart Phone" from ATT you will be on the MediaNet plan and your DL speeds will vary a lot and never really go that high,
. Mine go from 1.5 to 3mps. I have never had issues with streaming though when I needed.
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based on "those" info, I was wondering why I can only get 2mb on my none smart phone data plan. thanks for your info.

Anybody know the official price for this thing cuz I don't want no overprices nonsense like the gn.
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george241312 said:
Anybody know the official price for this thing cuz I don't want no overprices nonsense like the gn.
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wait for 6 months and you'll pay about 100 bucks less.

tbong777 said:
Only if you believe the BS
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It's a fact, easily do that amount of data a month. But I would be jealous of me if I had to pay more than $15 for not unlimited.
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Lancez said:
wait for 6 months and you'll pay about 100 bucks less.
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I 'd say 4 months after the first ones are shipped and $200+ less Used. I haven't bought a new International phone yet. Warranty iffy in the US and I fully intend to void it anyway rooting and ROMing it. May as well buy an already rooted device from someone reliable. Paid Less than $450 for the SGS IIs and Less than $600 for the Note. Those savings alone goes a long way toward the SGS III.

All I hope is that they will release both a LTE and non-LTE version in the US, like the SGS2.
Wishful thinking.

I'm getting international version and I am on t mobile. I have HSPA+ right now on my phone with them but honestly... Edge can still download stuff.
I'm a little upset that it won't support HSPA but I can live without it. More and more places that my friends and I frequent are putting up free WiFi so I feel like in a year's time WiFi will be so abundant that getting LTE devices won't be such a big deal.
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UK 4G LTE Thread

So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yet the S3 will?

RambJoe said:
So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yes the S3 will?
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not happy if that is the case! what is this based on?

After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...

MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Boy! I'm gonna ask them to send me that in writing. If true that would be great! I'm with three

MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Trouble is, what frequencies will be enabled? 800, 1800 etc, etc? Will we be forced to have multiple versions of the phone which are carrier dependent like in the States?

It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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I want to buy the note 2, but all these 4g frequencies fuss and no 100% confirmation from the carrier i use T-Mobile is holding me back.
As far as i know t-mobile will use a different frequency (ee) that note 2 does not support but again am not 100% sure.
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I had a conversation at the 3 store trafford centre one of the staff advised that 3 wasn't updating to 4g but would boost their internet to 46mb ....
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MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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How can people who have the phones check?

Not sure, would like to know so I can check on Thursday...
TBH, even if it doesn't have 4g I don't think i'll be too bothered as I've never thought download speeds were an issue... HD vids on youtube always downloaded without issue for example...
Faster is always better though so will be nice to have that extra bandwidth

Originally Posted by MadfishGTB
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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I got the same reply when talking online to Three CS earlier tonight.

Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.

The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47806/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-ee-uk-4g
15th October

RambJoe said:
Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.
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U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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mancuk29 said:
U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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Whilst this is possible it is specifically NOT permitted under their terms and conditions.
Three only permit tethering on their mobile data packages intended for laptops and myfi devices. If you try to use an "all you can eat" phone sim in a myfi device from Three, it does not work. Despite this, it is possible to tether a phone even though it is not officially allowed.
Needless to say, the data SIM route is more expensive than the "all you can eat" packages intended for unfettered phones.
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htc6500uk said:
The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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Are you sure about this?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php
On there the N7100 supports 4G!
Arghhh this is so confusing. I'm currently finished my contract with Orange and just on a roll-on contract with them. And want to use their upgraded EE's 4G and 3G signal.
Are you sure N7100 doesn't have 4G embedded? The GSM website differs..

Can everyone on 3 network just give me am idea of the download speed you get with your phones on HSPDA (or + if you get it) ?
I'm on t mobile ATM but thinking of jumping ship...

b4d5h0t said:
It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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Have to agree with this.
Where I live and work these days, I won't see 4G LTE for at least a couple of years, so the lack of LTE in the Note II makes no difference to me.
Coupled with the fact that I'd rather have truly unlimited 3G from Three, as opposed to what is likely to be a tiered data plan on 4G from EE, LTE just isn't a required feature for me at present. Given the current data plans from Orange and TMo, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the data limits for EE's LTE were quite low and expensive - even a 5GB data plan won't last long at LTE speeds if you're really going to use LTE as it is intended.
Also, EE's LTE at 1800MHz isn't going to have great indoor penetration when compared to the LTE at 800MHz that we will see once the spectrum is auctioned off next year, so I'd rather wait for something better.
Ordered my Note II from Three yesterday, as my contract was coming to an end. I fully expect to replace it this time next year, despite the fact I will have to pay full price as I'll only be a year into the contract, so it's not as if I will be 'stuck' for two years anyway!
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Doesn't this mean it won't support 4G?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/localnews/2012/uk-availability-of-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-announced
Specifically:
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3G: HSPA+ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)

LTE or the price cut?

hey fellows,
out of curiosity, what would you favor between the 2 for this Nexus.. a price drop or LTE?

Price drop because with limited data lte isn't of much use.

Anubis007 said:
hey fellows,
out of curiosity, what would you favor between the 2 for this Nexus.. a price drop or LTE?
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Definitely LTE, I was ready to jump ship to AT&T but now I don't even know if I'll get this... waiting to see if any good LTE options become available in the next few weeks.

LTE is a dogs breakfast, especially in the US, when {again} it has decided to use different frequencies to most of the rest of the world...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte/in/3335719

%#$! lte... it's overpriced / not ready for prime time.
The $299 / 349 price for the N4 is insane and well worth it.

A price drop past the 300/350 mark =0?

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A price drop past the 300/350 mark =0?
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i meant the current price drop, the 350$ mark.

Oh, definitely the price drop. I mean, I'm not using my phone for anything that requires 42 mbps or any super high speeds anyway. As long as my YouTube videos are loading properly, which is the main thing I would need for speed, I'm okay.

Between LTE being overly battery hungry and the lack of unlimited data, I say no freaking way I want LTE! I've had LTE before and it's eye opening fast, but I think HSPA+ is the golden ticket right now. It's very battery friendly and plenty fast enough for a mobile handset.
I've had 2 Gnex's (maguro and toro) and I can say that the battery on the Maguro Gnex is easily 50% better. As power hungry as these mobile platforms are these days, until they make improvements on LTE power consumption, I will not have another LTE phone as I've had 3 of them and they're all power hungry!

i think the question is better asked, price drop or cdma compatible? because this phone is useless to me having Sprint about to switch to Verizon network...

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i think the question is better asked, price drop or cdma compatible? because this phone is useless to me having Sprint about to switch to Verizon network...
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A cdma nexus just doesn't seem like a real nexus:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
And there's precious little to suggest working with carriers is even in Google's best interests, or in the best interests of Nexus customers. The Galaxy Nexus was announced last year with a promised LTE version on Verizon, but the carrier held back releasing the phone for months to promote its own Droid RAZR instead. Google eventually grew tired of waiting and sent unlocked HSPA+ devices to reviewers. And software updates for Nexus phones sold through carriers have been problematic as well: it took the Verizon three full months to disseminate the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update to its Galaxy Nexus, slightly longer than Sprint.
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I definitely like the current price, I will be selling my att sgs3 for the nexus4 without a doubt in my mind. I don't really even get LTE in these parts of CT so lte is not a deciding factor at all.
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It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.

ap3604 said:
A cdma nexus just doesn't seem like a real nexus:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
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while i agree the updates take longer... i also prefer to use Sprint/Verizon over GSM options...

I understand its coming to T-Mobile, but will the Nexus 4 work on AT&T's HSPA+ network?

I will take $350 price point over LTE.
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kanariya said:
I will take $350 price point over LTE.
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I agree with you there, I'm not too big on LTE myself, mainly for the fact that the faster my data is being processed, the more money I have to spend on data overages. But that's just me.

I would pay $500+ for 32GB and LTE if only Google would give me the option and take my money.
Instead I'm stuck between choosing between a capable phone and one that will get updates.

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%#$! lte... it's overpriced / not ready for prime time.
The $299 / 349 price for the N4 is insane and well worth it.
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Sounds like Fanboy talk to me. Brings me back to the Iphone 4s launch.
My GS3 gets great battery life and radios are getting better everyday.
No LTE is a dealbreaker. You can't honestly tell me that having this outdated technology is adequate. Not when most people keep heir phones for 2 yrs. T-mobile might not even be around in 2 yrs.
One of Androids biggest selling points is that they are always pushing the boundaries of technology. This is a huge step back.
One of the reasons, Apple products are so solidly built is they wait till the tech is old before they incorporate them into their products. I could get a cutting edge sailboat built but who uses sailboats. The Nexus 4 for is a cutting edge sailboat.
A 1.5ghz Quadcore Krait that's about a hair better than the International GS3. They could have at least gone Quad core Cortex A15.
All this so that I can have "Vanilla Android", if that's the price no thank you I'll stick with Cyanogenmod & AOKP.

Wouldn't mind a lte option but screw all the us carrier nonsense
Id rather have a dumb phone then have a CDMA device or anything at all to do with Verizon or sprint.

Beware the N7100/N7105 UK Con

I hit the high street today in search of an N7105 to go on three's network with the hope of being 4G ready, this is what I found
1) I went into a 3 store and got to play with a real "3" note 2, this was an N7100 despite "3's" customer service promising me that it was 4G ready for sure, it turns out they are currently only stocking the N7100 what is really bad is that 3 are pushing the fact that they are upgrading their network to DC-HSDPA (theoretical 42 Mbps real world 15 mbps) but regarding Samsungs the only DC-HSDPA phone available are the Galaxy S3 LTE and the Note 2 LTE, so the regular note 2 will not be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
2) I went into phones 4U as independent phone shops buy their own phones and so in theory will be able to sell you an N7105 on any network you want. This was even worse! where as T-mobile/Orange customers are getting the N7105 direct from their provider if they either start up new contracts or upgrade, if you sign up to a new contract or upgrade via phones 4U they are dishing out the N7100, they don't have any N7105's in stock and when they get them they will be exclusively dishing them out to people signing up to new contracts on EE.
If I was with T-Mobile/Orange and got an N7100 through phones 4U when I was meant to get an N7105 I would be very unimpressed.

this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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koahhe said:
this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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Sorry to say but, you're wrong.
It's well known what frequencies will be used and the n7105 will work on all of them, plus as the op said it has dc-h+ which means you can get unlimited near 4g speeds with all you can eat data from Three for as little as £12.90 pcm.
It's £509 for the phone.
£12 to unlock
Clearly the best option for the money conscious data hog.
And OP you might not be able to get an n7105 from anyone other than EE for sometime, or they might appear tomorrow. It has about the same likelihood of the 32gb version turning up.
(Actually Samsung might have said the 32 isn't coming? I'm not sure on that one?)
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Where can you buy a N7105 for £509?

pointless for me to have LTE. Don't live anywhere near a 4G area, the prices are a complete ripoff & by the time it arrives my contract will be up then and i will getting the note 3

Personally, I wouldn't bother with 4G in the UK. Where I live, which is a heavy population (Milton Keynes,) 4G is expected to hit in 2 years; which, by then i'll probably have the note 4
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Suicidal Chicken said:
Personally, I wouldn't bother with 4G in the UK. Where I live, which is a heavy population (Milton Keynes,) 4G is expected to hit in 2 years; which, by then i'll probably have the note 4
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Its not so much the 4g I'm bothered about... its more the resale value of a 3g phone in 2 years when all the networks are running 4g as standard ...
That and possibly the ability to use threes hspda+42 add an alternative to 4g

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Where can you buy a N7105 for £509?
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Orange...

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I hit the high street today in search of an N7105 to go on three's network with the hope of being 4G ready, this is what I found
1) I went into a 3 store and got to play with a real "3" note 2, this was an N7100 despite "3's" customer service promising me that it was 4G ready for sure, it turns out they are currently only stocking the N7100 what is really bad is that 3 are pushing the fact that they are upgrading their network to DC-HSDPA (theoretical 42 Mbps real world 15 mbps) but regarding Samsungs the only DC-HSDPA phone available are the Galaxy S3 LTE and the Note 2 LTE, so the regular note 2 will not be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
2) I went into phones 4U as independent phone shops buy their own phones and so in theory will be able to sell you an N7105 on any network you want. This was even worse! where as T-mobile/Orange customers are getting the N7105 direct from their provider if they either start up new contracts or upgrade, if you sign up to a new contract or upgrade via phones 4U they are dishing out the N7100, they don't have any N7105's in stock and when they get them they will be exclusively dishing them out to people signing up to new contracts on EE.
If I was with T-Mobile/Orange and got an N7100 through phones 4U when I was meant to get an N7105 I would be very unimpressed.
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OP, I have the GT-N7100 on Three and last weekend Three upgraded their network near me. My speeds went up from the usual 3Mbps/4Mbps to between 15Mbps/16Mbps which is "near" "real" 4G speeds without the extra OTT EE cost.
So, in fact the regular note 2 will be able to make the best of "3s" newly enhanced network.
I'm more than happy with that Free from Three.
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OP, I have the GT-7100 on Three and last weekend Three upgraded their network near me. My speeds went up from 3Mbps/4Mbps to between 15Mbps/16Mbps which is "near" "real" 4G speeds without the extra OTT cost.
I'm more than happy with that Free from Three.
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Wow, is that really HSPA+21?
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My area which is in Central London also provides speeds of up to 15mb/s.
And that's 7100. HSPA+ 21.
Just shows that 3 are very competitive, and they give free data.

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Wow, is that really HSPA+21?
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I get HSDPA ("H" on signal bar) Screenshot
And now I also now get HSPAP (H+ on signal bar) Screenshot
Speedtest taken a few mins ago HERE
Needless to say, I am very happy now.

Interesting comments,
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S2, I regularly get 8 ish Mbps on three's network and once got a real 15 Mbps in liverpool, So im hoping that they are being conservative on their DC-HSDPA speed advertisements, but even double what I get now would be excellent.
this is no news at all. the LTE phones available in UK now are designed to work with EE network 4G frequencies. your taking a big gamble buying one and hoping it will work with a specific network next year. and as s general advice dont believe what the sales representative will tell you. do your research before going into the shop.
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I don't think it is a gamble, as i'm confident that 3 will be sharing T-mobiles 4G network ( they already share their 3G network) see here for proof on that.
http://www.mbnl.co.uk/about.php
and this from the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19786041
the important bit being
The UK's fourth biggest network - Three - is set to take over part of EE's 4G spectrum, but is not due to do so until September 2013.
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Further, because of the network sharing it seems likely that EE are also about to get DC-HSDPA, which means they are doing right by their customers handing out N7105's even to customers that are only on 3G tariffs (unless you get your phone from phones 4U, in which case you are being parmed off with an N7100)

Reports say you can get the n7105 from ee for 459. Go get it and be happy. Unless you like custom roms and want them NOW.
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I got an N1705 as an upgrade from T-Mobile. Unfortunately there's not going to be any 4G round my way for a while.

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Go direct to EE they have it for £499

N7105 in the UK
You're all dreaming......There is no where in any of the Uk stores (t mobile, orange, EE, phones 4 U etc) where you can buy the N7105 for £499 or £450 or any of the prices quoted here.....period! You cannot get it on Pay as you go, and the only way to get it sim free through the retailers is to pay top whack at £999 at a Samsung store or go for a pay monthly contract with EE for a min. of 12 months. Online the best bet in the UK with all the taxes paid etc. is at prepaymania.co.uk at £563 or chance it on eBay and they're currently fetching about £510 but you'll need to buy an unlock code on top of this. So......as of today in the UK that's the best you'll get for the LTE Note II

Sorry haven't read whole post so apologies if this is a repeat.
The tmobile people said it's exclusive to EE until next summer. So other providers will have to latch off EE if they want it. This will mean increased premiums or lower speeds. In terms of phones I'm with tmob and I got the 7105 and upgrade to 4G thingy was £5 extra pm (didn't go for it as I don't need the speeds).
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gwelmor said:
You're all dreaming......There is no where in any of the Uk stores (t mobile, orange, EE, phones 4 U etc) where you can buy the N7105 for £499 or £450 or any of the prices quoted here.....period! You cannot get it on Pay as you go, and the only way to get it sim free through the retailers is to pay top whack at £999 at a Samsung store or go for a pay monthly contract with EE for a min. of 12 months. Online the best bet in the UK with all the taxes paid etc. is at prepaymania.co.uk at £563 or chance it on eBay and they're currently fetching about £510 but you'll need to buy an unlock code on top of this. So......as of today in the UK that's the best you'll get for the LTE Note II
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I bought mine from an Orange shop for 509 sometime ago. I read two reports they'll let yo walk away with it for 459. Both those prices include a mandatory £10 top up.
I read a report of it this device being unlocked by a third party for £12.
Im not dreaming.
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How is this a "con" more like sounds people not doing research and listening to stupid network staff to me
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