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Wow Motorola really doesn't like people messing with there phones. I've hosted TONS of SGS stuff never a peep from Samsung.
http://www.mattfacts.dangdeals.com/2011/03/wow-motorola-sent-a-cd-cease-and-desist/
congratulations!
should respond with "dear sir, please unlock my bootloader. thank you"
Pirateghost said:
congratulations!
should respond with "dear sir, please unlock my bootloader. thank you"
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Hah, thats not a bad idea. I'll call him in the morning.
When will this company learn? These people are you most valuable and influential customers.
LOL.... I think everyone should call him and say
"I'm YellowGTO..."
that or just prank call him all day...
LoL
LoL
LoL
That is freakin awesome. You are my new hero.
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Motorola is losing a lot of credibility imo step by step...
i m going to call him to give me an unlocked bootloader in a min
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i m going to call him to give me an unlocked bootloader in a min
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Ask him if he has any uncapped HSUPA as well...
The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.
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The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.
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That's actually an interesting stance. I wrote them on Twitter and I'm sure they won't reply to me.
Good thing I got RSD Lite 5.0 and the SBF before a lot of sites took them down due to copyright violations.
This would be bad news for devs trying to crack the bootloeader as im sure CCD letters would be issues out
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This would be bad news for devs trying to crack the bootloeader as im sure CCD letters would be issues out
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Or just host it from a server in a different country who doesn't give a crap.
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Or just host it from a server in a different country who doesn't give a crap.
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Yup this would be the smart thing to do.
How big is the RSDLite file? I need it. Can someone direct me to where I can download it from pls??
I have finished downloading the SBF. Can someone PM me regarding obtaining a download of RSDLite? I need to download it, but unable to find it online anymore.
UPDATE: Nevermind someone point me to the download of RSDLite. It's still online, just needed to select a different file host site.
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The Motorola Solutions division is the same way with their software for their two-way radios. They guard it like a hawk and are quick to sue like the RIAA.
On that note, we should send a similar letter indicating that we are the sole owners of the phones in our possession and that they need to return the unlocked bootloader and HSUPA that they stole from us.
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HSUPA is not Moto's doing. Learn who is stealing what from you.
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PixoNova said:
HSUPA is not Moto's doing. Learn who is stealing what from you.
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Don't be a tool Pixo. I know darned well who's keeping HSUPA from Atrix owners. I also know who it is that locked the bootloader which keeps devs from enabling HSUPA on both at&t AND Bell.
Look at the HTC Inspire...HSUPA was crippled by at&t but HTC didn't lock it down so it was easily enabled by those in the know. Same with the Samsung Captivate.
Since it's Motorola's policy to lock all bootloaders, I feel the blame falls mainly on them.
The Droid X, Milestone etc bootloaders were not actually unlocked. It was a hoax. http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-bootloader-still-encrypted-developer-comes-clean
I don't see why so many are willing to put up with this. There are plenty of other good android phones out there. As long as Motorola is going to fight this, there will never be a truly safe way to flash custom roms/kernels on droid phones, and devs simply aren't going to invest the time necessary to develop much.
::: Sigh :::
I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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I've learned an important lesson, don't get hopes up so quickly :'(
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
disappointing, and we all know now not to ever trust nenolod again. thunderbolt here i come...
I think its horrible that some one thought it was funny that this happened. I know I am a no body to the android community but I for sure did an "unfollow" on twitter today.
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Motorola is too committed to their bootloaders not being crackable. Just pick another phone for your next one.
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
@nenolod purposefully lied to us. http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=l8sp.png&xsize=480&ysize=480
This is ridiculous. He cannot be doing this @&#( to us. I have lost all respect for this guy
And the thing is he said it was because people kept bothering him about the stuff. Well I never even heard of this guy until all this came out as im sure the case with most people, so why play this stupid "trick" on all of us?
Again, lets throw all of out locked droid x's at him. He shoukd be banned from android period
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That's my thought. I'm due for a new phone here shortly; it certainly won't be a Motorola.
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I would recommend a Galaxy S. The bootloaders are unlocked and it now has a functional CM7 version. Plus, nothing beats the Super AMOLED screen.
Yeah this was pretty lame, got my hopes up, so I just got a dinc for now until I can afford a new phone or get my upgrade.
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I loved my Droid X when I first got it. Rooted it and had leaked Froyo running on it before OTA was available. After that there was not much more I could do with it. Bought a used Captivate on ebay. There are lots of custom ROMs and kernels to choose from. When September rolls around I hope there is a new Samsung phone available. No more Moto's for me.
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Galaxy S phones are very solid, with a few mods, it will fly. Plus the bootloader is unlocked, if u are coming from the x, you will greatly appreciate this. I just picked up a thunderbolt and so far, i love it. Its crazy fast, LTE or not, and having the 256mb of extra ram really makes for a phone that never slows down, no matter what you are doing. My only complaint other than the battery being undersized, as HTC ALWAYS does, is the adreno 205, people with the mytouch or G2 will tell you its good. When voming from a galaxy s the GPU is the only thing that i dont think is better.
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Yes, yes it will.
So i just called in to att trying to get a credit for my gimped phone, i didn't get a credit sadly but i did get some interesting info.
First and probably the coolest, the guy told me that att does plan on releasing gingerbread for the atrix before the end of Q3 as well as the boot loader unlock. The second thing he told me is that att doesn't plan on allowing side-loading and he said its not looking like the amazon app store, however they aren't holding it against people that are figuring out a way to side load.
Anyways it is what it is but its some info, he also seemed rather shocked that the boot loader wasn't cracked yet, dunno why though when i pressed him he shut up about it.
Q3?! Wow, that is still some time away :/
By that time, most likely Ice Cream will be out already...
interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...
Interesting no doubt... I think they will have a way to unlock at the sacrifice of your warranty.
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Yeah, end of Q3 for AT&T is September, I just checked (they run a Jan - Dec fiscal year). That's a super long time away for something that's already been in work since before the phone was released (based on the engineering build in the Android development forum).
What is trolling?
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What is trolling?
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it is a art
2.4 will more than likely not be called ice cream it'll still be call gingerbread. And what the guy said goes along with what the australian guy posted in his thread about motorola giving a bootloader solution similar to what the xoom has but it would be up to the discretion of the carrier if they'd allow it or not and that it would all happen in the ladder part of 2011. But to hear it from att rep is interesting but I don't hold my breathe
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011 maybe the rep just read this and said att was gonna do it... you know how this reps are
thats just my 2 cents
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What is trolling?
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Now that is what true trolling is. If you frequent 4chan enough, you'll be able to tell quite quickly who's trolling and who's srs.
I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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LOL
And what is cool about having gingerbread in october? 5 months from now and 10 months after the realease of GB?
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I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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There may be some contractual issue with a 3rd party that is preventing AT&T from "giving" us sideloading, such as a conflict with an AT&T partner and Amazon for example, so it may make sense to not allow it, although they know fully it's going to happen in any event. I think unlocking the bootloader is what's important. The community has enabled pretty much everything else, including sideloading. I do agree though, it's kind of a contradiction.
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interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...
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based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Last time I checked, AT&T did have a couple of Motorola android devices...
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cegna09 said:
based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?
Q3 is too far away. If that's the case, I'll give the Galaxy S II a hard look when released...
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Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?
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I had an AT&T rep tell me that also.
Q3 or september 11 is 5 months away. In this case, I will rather start looking for other options, such as HTC Sensation, or GSII.
I wish Gingerbread comes to Atrix Soon as well, as 2.2.1 is a real pain. Also once you get spoiled by the newest and greatest android version available, its real dumb and hard to get back to older one... :-(
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Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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AT&T has had:
Backflip
Flipside
Flipout
Bravo
Of those four prior to the Atrix, only the Bravo is worth anything. And it got upgraded to 2.2 recently.
Once the bootloader gets unlocked I'm sure we will have a gingerbread port a lot sooner than October. I'm really hoping for a CM7 port!
I have spoke with some people from motorola and asked some questions related to general business but also for upgrading Atrix with ICS.
I'm pasting here some answers without mentioning names, I think that this may show that motorola is doing more than they are ready to publicly say in this moment. To be on safe side You can think about this as rumor.
On Software upgrades, I wasn't aware of an announcement regarding ICS and ATRIX. Although Motorola tends to announce what it will do, not what it won't do, it doesn't mean it won't happen. You may be right, but I don't know the current status... The challenge we have with ATRIX however is Webtop, the full linux OS which sits within Froyo/Gingerbread... I imagine this has delayed any comment. The ideal scenario would be to upgrade all phones to the latest software, and I see that almost all high-end (non web top) phones have had ICS upgrade confirmed.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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What we need are drivers, webtop and kernels, and they will give us these if this is true
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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Us GB members JUST got the 2.3 update...
If we think optimisticly, then MAYBE 2014 could be a safe bet.
But ONLY if... - If Motorola are faster than usual
Son of a *****. I got really excited.
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somebody should move this thread away from this section and/or append "-RUMOR" to its name . I was having an heart attack.
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
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Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
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are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
damn, i almost having a heart attack after reading this thread's title
da fuq
munchy_cool said:
are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
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They had sad early 2012
Here's the post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371486
I'm not sure that drivers are anymore issue since we saw from google ICS
for xoom which is same platform as atrix.
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thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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What a tease!
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Perfectly acceptable titles:
- Unofficial information from Motorla regarding ICS for the Atrix
- I contacted Motorola regarding ICS for the Atrix, here's the answer
- If you were wondering about Motorola's stand on ICS for the Atrix, here it is
- So I decided to contact Motorola about ICS for the Atrix
Do you understand how the title is misleading enough for it to pass as obvious trolling? Don't apologize, just change the god damned title so people won't read it and get excited over some unofficial comments that do not really say ANYTHING at all about current development for the Atrix.
Thank you and have a good one.
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This does not belong in dev you IDIOT.
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I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
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I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
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Why don't you give me thanks you idiot!?
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Since motorola needs to upgrade RAZR to ICS (they publicly committed that they will do it) it means that webtop will be rewrite for ICS so it's possible that they will
user webtop for RAZR in ICS for atrix.
Only after Google's control.
Punit Soni needs to know that there is a lot of people intested in the kernel source of their incomplete work on ICS.
Let's ask him for that https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351
I think it could help us to get an working ICS =)
Thank you Guys!
We were lucky to get anything other than a standard textbook reply from Motorola. Motorola will never release source as it has a lot of proprietary code and drivers to which they might no longer have rights to. Also, I can't imagine them releasing it only to be told that unpaid enthusiasts were able to do what their employees couldn't.
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Punit Soni needs to know that there is a lot of people intested in the kernel source of their incomplete work on ICS.
Let's ask him for that https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351
I think it could help us to get an working ICS =)
Thank you Guys!
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I don't think Punit Soni is the right guy for that.
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We were lucky to get anything other than a standard textbook reply from Motorola. Motorola will never release source as it has a lot of proprietary code and drivers to which they might no longer have rights to. Also, I can't imagine them releasing it only to be told that unpaid enthusiasts were able to do what their employees couldn't.
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But if we get only the GPL sources, we could use the proprietary libraries in the leak. If the proprietary libraries are ok, then we could fix the problems with the leak's kernel (like battery drain, deep sleep).
In fact, looks like they have reasons to not release the GPL sources... But doesn't hurt to ask Punit Soni about it...
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I don't think Punit Soni is the right guy for that.
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Why not? He is the vice president of motorola and he's open to suggestions on his google plus page...
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Why not? He is the vice president of motorola and he's open to suggestions on his google plus page...
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He isnt the vice president of moto. He is the vice president of product management. For about a month straight the atrix and photon community asked him over and over to do something to no avail. By all means, try again. But just saying, its been done before.
Well let's just add a layer of anger. I'm pretty bored of this crappy company not giving us what we need.
imho Punit is the guy that's responsible for the cancellation of ICS update. He was talking about bitter decisions before the announcement.
And as an employee of Google, he wont give anything that will give more life to Atrix.
If you want a phone with 4.x, sell your Atrix or work some overtime and buy another phone.
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If you want a phone with 4.x, sell your Atrix or work some overtime and buy another phone.
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May I ask why are you still following Atrix threads and posting posts like this?! If you have or made decision to buy another phone, just buy it and leave others without your advises.
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If you want a phone with 4.x, sell your Atrix or work some overtime and buy another phone.
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Thanks for the advice. But couldn't you tell me how to get 300€ to get a Nexus 4 ? I bought my Atrix 6 months ago and I waited something like 6 months to buy it.
I think its worth a try to get a reply of what he thinks of helping us!
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I think its worth a try to get a reply of what he thinks of helping us!
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Besides that, i don't see so many posts about the kernel source there
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Besides that, i don't see so many posts about the kernel source there
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I think we should make this as a hot post and
make atrix users post comments for need of atrix ics or kernel in his g+:fingers-crossed:
Krystian Plonski posted about engineering atrixes with enabled uart on headset jack. Let's put a "+1" on his request!!
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Krystian Plonski posted about engineering atrixes with enabled uart on headset jack. Let's put a "+1" on his request!!
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https://plus.google.com/s/Krystian Plonski
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May I ask why are you still following Atrix threads and posting posts like this?! If you have or made decision to buy another phone, just buy it and leave others without your advises.
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Because I still use the Atrix, obviously. See how it does that nifty trick of saying what its sent with?
I'm not sitting here complaining about ICS for the Atrix. I use CM10 If you want ICS, get another phone. Very simple. Like me, I'm working overtime to buy another phone. But trying to spam a guy isn't going to get ICS on your phone.
And I should point out you are in the wrong place to tell someone they can't advise people abut phones.
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This is not first time that you're giving that kind of advice. Someone is not willing to work overtime or just can't. Someone just like Atrix size and features, doesn't need anything better... So many reasons.
Actually you're wrong. I had Desire. HTC announced that will not be GB update. Community was so loud that HTC change its mind. If a lot of people request, Motorola must do something. The worst thing is to do what you did, buy another phone (doesn't matter which vendor) because that's exactly what vendors wish!
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This is not first time that you're giving that kind of advice. Someone is not willing to work overtime or just can't. Someone just like Atrix size and features, doesn't need anything better... So many reasons.
Actually you're wrong. I had Desire. HTC announced that will not be GB update. Community was so loud that HTC change its mind. If a lot of people request, Motorola must do something. The worst thing is to do what you did, buy another phone (doesn't matter which vendor) because that's exactly what vendors wish!
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Buy Nexus. Problem solved. If you don't, don't expect updates. View them as miracles if they get pushed trough.
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I saw your post before you deleted. Read more carefully next time