Hello everybody, just a quick question.
I have fallen over my HD2 while rollerskating, and despite being in a protective case, apparently it has received some damage.
The back hard key, doesn't provide any feedback when pressed (it still works, but there's no travel of the key, neither a feeling of being pressed).
So if anyone has an idea - is this fixable somehow, or I'll have to go for a whole new keypad?
10x in Advance
apocalypse_bg said:
Hello everybody, just a quick question.
I have fallen over my HD2 while rollerskating, and despite being in a protective case, apparently it has received some damage.
The back hard key, doesn't provide any feedback when pressed (it still works, but there's no travel of the key, neither a feeling of being pressed).
So if anyone has an idea - is this fixable somehow, or I'll have to go for a whole new keypad?
10x in Advance
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It seems it affected your hardware Back-key which is together with the rest of your bottom hardware buttons: anyway I suggest to leave it that way (if everything else it's OK) because repairing it by changing the whole row of buttons ( practically a flexibile ribbon) implies disassembling the entire device even the combo (lcd+touchscreen) from the chassis (an action rather for professionals!).
Good luck!
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Hello.
I would like to ask a question to everyone who has the same experience.
In my recently bought Imate JasJar, some buttons(4-5 of them) do a very unpleasant creacking noise, while the others are virtually silent when pressed.
Should i worry that i have a defective unit(missalligned keyboard) that could lead to future button failure or just sit down and relax?
Thank you!
vatk said:
Hello.
I would like to ask a question to everyone who has the same experience.
In my recently bought Imate JasJar, some buttons(4-5 of them) do a very unpleasant creacking noise, while the others are virtually silent when pressed.
Should i worry that i have a defective unit(missalligned keyboard) that could lead to future button failure or just sit down and relax?
Thank you!
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Interesting - i have an issue with the green/red phone keys - they seem to have the ability to double click - although no function can be assigned to it.
Matt
In my case, all the buttons work right!
But some of them do an unpleasant noise when pressed.
Is this normal?
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OK, I think the screws in the back are loose, take your stylus out and gently press where the stylu was from the bacl of the cover toward the keybaord and it should creak. I thing it is due to loose screws on the universal
If i am doing right,i see no creak on the pressure there!
But if this is the case, can i do something myself as to fix it?
Thanks!
hi, i'm a new owner and there are a few things that are bugging me and i'm not sure if it's normal or if it's problematic.
-the start menu pops up sometimes when i slide out the keyboard. is this normal?
-the device can only be charged when the usb is connected to my computer, but not when the usb is connected to an ac adapter.
-keys are mixed up (i supposed because of the Japanese keyboard layout, and i think i saw a fix for this)
when sliding out the keyboard, it takes about 6-8 seconds to adjust from portrait to landscape(with the start menu popping up when going to landscape).
-is it normal for the touchscreen to be completely unresponsive when the keyboard is slid out?
-the touchscreen is completely unresponsive sometimes while the keyboard is hidden and i have to either press random buttons or slide the keyboard in and out to get response back.
sorry for my noobishness and thanks in advance.
ok i've managed to solve the keyboard layout problem and i guess the delay is typical,. but the following problems/issues still exist:
-the start menu pops up sometimes when i slide out the keyboard. is this normal?
-the device can only be charged when the usb is connected to my computer, but not when the usb is connected to an ac adapter.
-is it normal for the touchscreen to be completely unresponsive when the keyboard is slid out?
-the touchscreen is completely unresponsive sometimes while the keyboard is hidden and i have to either press random buttons or slide the keyboard in and out to get response back.
thanks in advance.
anyone? any kinda help would be great
ji1386 said:
ok i've managed to solve the keyboard layout problem and i guess the delay is typical,. but the following problems/issues still exist:
-the start menu pops up sometimes when i slide out the keyboard. is this normal?
-the device can only be charged when the usb is connected to my computer, but not when the usb is connected to an ac adapter.
-is it normal for the touchscreen to be completely unresponsive when the keyboard is slid out?
-the touchscreen is completely unresponsive sometimes while the keyboard is hidden and i have to either press random buttons or slide the keyboard in and out to get response back.
thanks in advance.
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Hi ji1386
I'm afraid that does not sound good. I have seen at least two other cases where the keyboard being slid out causes the start menu to pop up. It was concluded that pressure is being put on the touch sensitive screen by the mechanism. This is a hardware issue and can also show as programmes suddenly closing for no ovvious reason and I think this may also be responsible for the touch screen not responding when keyboard open. In summary pressure on the touch sensitive screen somewhere when there should not be.
If the device is under warranty I'd go for an immediate replacement. Perhaps just before doing so I would try a HARD reset just to be sure.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Hi ji1386
I'm afraid that does not sound good. I have seen at least two other cases where the keyboard being slid out causes the start menu to pop up. It was concluded that pressure is being put on the touch sensitive screen by the mechanism. This is a hardware issue and can also show as programmes suddenly closing for no ovvious reason and I think this may also be responsible for the touch screen not responding when keyboard open. In summary pressure on the touch sensitive screen somewhere when there should not be.
If the device is under warranty I'd go for an immediate replacement. Perhaps just before doing so I would try a HARD reset just to be sure.
Mike
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hi, thanks a lot for the response. it really helps. now for the other problems
-is it normal for the the touchscreen to stop responding to taps when the keyboard is slid out?
ji1386 said:
hi, thanks a lot for the response. it really helps. now for the other problems
-is it normal for the the touchscreen to stop responding to taps when the keyboard is slid out?
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No it's not normal. The screen should respond as normal. For example when using word, even with the keyboard ou you should still be able to tap for the soft keyboard, tap on bold, centre, tap in text to inser a word etc etc.
If you can't I think it's because the keyboard mechanism is somehow putting pressure at some point on the screen i.e the same issue as the start menu popping up. If a hard reset does not cure this then it's a repair job or replacement under warranty I'd say.
Mike
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No it's not normal. The screen should respond as normal. For example when using word, even with the keyboard ou you should still be able to tap for the soft keyboard, tap on bold, centre, tap in text to inser a word etc etc.
If you can't I think it's because the keyboard mechanism is somehow putting pressure at some point on the screen i.e the same issue as the start menu popping up. If a hard reset does not cure this then it's a repair job or replacement under warranty I'd say.
Mike
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thanks mike for all your help.
More bad news...since yesterday, the touch-screen no longer responds at all...completely unresponsive to tap or touch. I've tried hard/soft reseting and still got nothing...
I have however managed to get it to charge through a wall outlet. but it's a bit buggy...
Unfortunately, I bought this phone used locally and the guy isn't responding to any of my phone calls/emails, but whatever karma will come back to haunt him...I was thinking about taking this to a small claims court, but i dunno how to go about doing so and if my case will hold up...
anyway, I've had to take it to a repair shop. They said they'd order in a screen and replace it for $150 cad and it should fix it, if not a diagnosis charge of 20 bucks...
this should bring the total cost of this phone to $725cad...great...
Hopefully it solves all my problems. I'm guessing the start menu problem and the touch responsiveness problems get solved after this.
ji1386 said:
thanks mike for all your help.
More bad news...since yesterday, the touch-screen no longer responds at all...completely unresponsive to tap or touch. I've tried hard/soft reseting and still got nothing...
I have however managed to get it to charge through a wall outlet. but it's a bit buggy...
Unfortunately, I bought this phone used locally and the guy isn't responding to any of my phone calls/emails, but whatever karma will come back to haunt him...I was thinking about taking this to a small claims court, but i dunno how to go about doing so and if my case will hold up...
anyway, I've had to take it to a repair shop. They said they'd order in a screen and replace it for $150 cad and it should fix it, if not a diagnosis charge of 20 bucks...
this should bring the total cost of this phone to $725cad...great...
Hopefully it solves all my problems. I'm guessing the start menu problem and the touch responsiveness problems get solved after this.
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I certainly hope it works out ok. Changing the screen assumes (possibly correctly) that the screen is at fault. If the screen is fine just getting pressure put on it somewhere then it will be a bit of luck whether it solves problem or not. A key problem here is that the screen is sensitive to touch, even on the area under the bezel - which of course is absolutely daft. Combine this with the fact that there is not a lot of room for heat expansion and the slide out keyboard can cause minor distortions in the casing and you have potential for a certain percentage of devices to have problems. Thankfully now far less than early models but still being reported.
Good Luck
Mike
Took it to a repair shop this week. Opened it up and looks like a damaged flex ribbon cable (possibly from sliding out the keyboard or just a faulty cable) is the culprit behind the unresponsive touchscreen.
Apparently those are impossible to find (if not very hard). i live in Canada where parts for these phones are quite scarce, so I'm not too sure what i should do. The guy said he could try to find a replacement part, but it'd take almost a month.
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it to let anyone with unresponsive touch screens know. I guess just add this to the list of possible causes.
how did you fix keyboard layout problem
Ji1836,
Can you please let me know how you solved the keyboard layout problem.
I also have a softbank X01HT with a japanese keyboard layout. I have upgraded to WM6 BLACK 2.5. But some keys are mixed up like the dot and comma and others as well. I tried the fixes in the wiki but nothing worked.
Aprreciate your help.
Hi all, my Trinity's hardware buttons doesn't work.
The 2 softkey hardware buttons, the red and the green button, the ok button and the Start button seems to be broken also if they have backlight. All the others buttons are ok.
I've tried to softreset, hardreset and flash the ROM (I'm using last Ervius ROM). After flashing for the first time the buttons were ok for a littewhile but now they seems to be broken again even after several flash. I've also tried to downgrade to wm5 but nothing change. I think that is an hardware issue and I'm going to try to fix it by opening my Trinity hoping that is just a flat connector pluged out but if someone else has experienced the same problem and has to suggest me something is really welcome.
Campo said:
Hi all, my Trinity's hardware buttons doesn't work.
The 2 softkey hardware buttons, the red and the green button, the ok button and the Start button seems to be broken also if they have backlight. All the others buttons are ok.
I've tried to softreset, hardreset and flash the ROM (I'm using last Ervius ROM). After flashing for the first time the buttons were ok for a littewhile but now they seems to be broken again even after several flash. I've also tried to downgrade to wm5 but nothing change. I think that is an hardware issue and I'm going to try to fix it by opening my Trinity hoping that is just a flat connector pluged out but if someone else has experienced the same problem and has to suggest me something is really welcome.
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I experienced this myself, and replaced this item:
http://cnn.cn/shop/p3600dopod-d810-keypad-p-1825.html
HPN
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Mine also, but solved it after a couple of days (temporarily). The hardware buttons problem seems to be related with one of the keys stuck. If one of those keys is stuck none of the others work. I tried "fast" double clicking on one key at a time to unstuck and it worked for me. Mine has been working for two weeks with no problem. Anyway I ordered that part "just in case".
So before opening your trinity try to unstuck the keys. It seems to be related with humidity conditions and carrying the phone in the pocket (just a guess).
hpn said:
I experienced this myself, and replaced this item:
http://cnn.cn/shop/p3600dopod-d810-keypad-p-1825.html
HPN
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Thanks !
n0t said:
Mine also, but solved it after a couple of days (temporarily). The hardware buttons problem seems to be related with one of the keys stuck. If one of those keys is stuck none of the others work. I tried "fast" double clicking on one key at a time to unstuck and it worked for me. Mine has been working for two weeks with no problem. Anyway I ordered that part "just in case".
So before opening your trinity try to unstuck the keys. It seems to be related with humidity conditions and carrying the phone in the pocket (just a guess).
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I'm going to try this becouse during the last 4 days sometimes the buttons work so.... thanks!
Ok, nothing work.
I've also tried to open the device but looking behind the buttons pad fortunally/unfortunally there isn't an evident hardware problem.
The only solution is to replace the pad.
Hi to all.
I have had buttons not working on my trinity for some time. was tempted to send it back for repair but i did not want to be without my phone and did not want to have to stick the old wm5 rom back on!!
I took my trinity apart too see if i could see anything wrong. and got it down to the keypad. one thing i did notice is that there was a lot of dust. also around the small disks that provide the buttons, there are 3 small holes in the sealing sheet. seems that the construction of the switch array is circuit board at the bottom, with small tin disks on top, all held in place with a thin plastic sheet.
The tin disks 'pop' inside out when you press the buttons, making the contact for the switch. On the old nokia phones, these disks got deformed and this would make the button work but with no click. I had a click but no button operation, and with the holes, and all the dust i found, i figured that it must be dusty contacts.
so here is how i managed to fix my buttons for free:
1, strip the phone to get to the keyboard circuit (i used this link clicky)
2, clean all the dust from the buttons
3, start to tease the plastic film from the front of the board (i used a sharp knife but mind your fingers and take care not to damage the board)
4, once one corner is up you should be able to slowly pull the film up (take care not to damage the disks as the plastic comes up but make sure the disks stay on the plastic sheet)
5, dont pull the sheet totally off otherwise you will have a job getting it all to line up after.
6, get some alcohol or head cleaning fluid on a cotton bud and clean all the gold contacts, as well as the insides of the discs.
7, slowly rub the plastic film to put it back where it came from, taking care to get the disks in the center of the gold contacts.
8, rebuild and test
All being well you should have working buttons again!!! It seems the design of the buttons lets dust inside the workings.
Hope this helps someone with clicking buttons but no action!!!
ATT: I searched a bit more and found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319315&page=2
Thanks very much to mikechannon once again.
Hi, seems I'm asking for a bit of help lately
Anyway on my qwerty keypad the letters U and O have to be pressed harder than all the others otherwise they won't register, I mean hard enough to slow down my typing quite a bit. I have pulled the phone apart many times and played with the keyboard position, put bits of paper in between the membrane and pop buttons etc.
When I first opened it up I noticed that the keyboard PCB was sitting above the hook looking piece of plastic holding it down and the board had been ever so slightly warped from this, I have since rectified this but the keys still need pressing hard.
Any ideas? Anyone with a similar problem?
EDIT: This is the Hermes I got from ebay second hand BTW.
aaron11193 said:
ATT: I searched a bit more and found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319315&page=2
Thanks very much to mikechannon once again.
Hi, seems I'm asking for a bit of help lately
Anyway on my qwerty keypad the letters U and O have to be pressed harder than all the others otherwise they won't register, I mean hard enough to slow down my typing quite a bit. I have pulled the phone apart many times and played with the keyboard position, put bits of paper in between the membrane and pop buttons etc.
When I first opened it up I noticed that the keyboard PCB was sitting above the hook looking piece of plastic holding it down and the board had been ever so slightly warped from this, I have since rectified this but the keys still need pressing hard.
Any ideas? Anyone with a similar problem?
EDIT: This is the Hermes I got from ebay second hand BTW.
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Brave man, not the easiest thing to do. Pleased you achieved success
Mike
Hi all,
My i9505 has been working very nicely for quite a while now with a stock ROM (I9505XXUHOJ2) with no real issues to speak of. This past week, however, I have started wondering if someone is messing with me or if the phone is possessed. For no apparent reason, the menu key keeps self-activating. Sitting on a desk, no hands anywhere near, it pops up. Listing to my podcatcher or music in the car, same thing. And it keeps popping up multiple times. It's not only annoying, it pops up when I'm trying to use apps and causes me to make choices I wasn't intending to. I'm hoping I don't delete something by mistake this way some day.
Does anyone have any ideas other than the hardware going bad? If it is hardware, is it worth fixing (I can do my own repairs and have most of the tools, so parts is more the issue than labor)?
Thanks in advance!
The only suggestion, other than fixing the hardware, is factory reset or reflashing the rom altogether.
Maybe it isn't even a hardware issue. Maybe dust and dirt got underneath the glass and is causing false touch commands.
Other than that, the only other fix I see is replacing the touchscreen. As the menu key is not actually a physical key, like the home button, it is part of the touchscreen.
GDReaper said:
The only suggestion, other than fixing the hardware, is factory reset or reflashing the rom altogether.
Maybe it isn't even a hardware issue. Maybe dust and dirt got underneath the glass and is causing false touch commands.
Other than that, the only other fix I see is replacing the touchscreen. As the menu key is not actually a physical key, like the home button, it is part of the touchscreen.
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I was wondering about that - if it part of the touchscreen, then only a touchscreen replacement will be the real answer.
What about switching to a ROM that allows me to turn off those keys and put those soft keys on the screen? Does AOSP do that?
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I was wondering about that - if it part of the touchscreen, then only a touchscreen replacement will be the real answer.
What about switching to a ROM that allows me to turn off those keys and put those soft keys on the screen? Does AOSP do that?
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Depends. There are AOSP based roms that have such a feature, and then there are pure AOSP roms that are very barebone.
CM roms generally have the on-screen navigation keys option.
You can also use Xposed to enable the keys.