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Hey guys,
so one day I was wondering that we should start a thread on the main issues of the Nexus One and Android. I thought it would be nice if everyone posted an issue or an idea that would be relevant to Google to implement on the next version of Android. I've named some (I am on stock FRF91 btw, so some issues may not affect all users):
Nexus One Specific:
-enable custom trackball and led colors notifications without the need to root (there's an app called Trackball Alert by lilHermit [see http://www.appbrain.com/app/uk.co.lilhermit.android.TrackballAlert ] that does exactly what I mean but you need custom roms to use it)
-720p video recording (already achievable with Cyanogen's mod, but could use Google's help with the drivers and to up the overall quality of the video)
-fix multitouch (I know ClearPad 2000 is not very good at dealing with multitouch but there is room for software/driver optimization)
-improve touchscreen subtle delay after touch (again, maybe a ClearPad 2000 issue, not sure about it)
-trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
General Android:
-enable horizontal homescreen without having to use a dock
-improve kinetic scrolling on the maps app (not really an android issue, it's app-specific)
-isolate images and video files of apps from the gallery app (it is really annoying to see completely unrelated pics from apps in the middle of the pics you've taken with ur camera or copied from ur pc)
-remove the ****ty compression from the pictures on the gallery, contact pictures and album covers
-make the gallery 24 bit colors again (it was 24 bit on 2.1, but they screwed up on froyo [even on FRF91])
-improve the music player (much needed)
-add swipe left and right gestures to switch between emails, songs (just like in the stock news app)
-smoother transition between homescreens and smoother launcher (improve overall FPS rate on the system)
-better live wallpaper performance (using LWP generally slows the system down)
-tabbed browsing (like Dolphin Browser), better history and bookmark handling (bookmarks synchronazation with firefox, chrome, safari and maybe even ****ty ie)
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, 1st: it is SLOW. It takes AGES to open an email with images even on a fast wifi connection. 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone? 3rd. UI overhaul.
-itunes-like, offline backup, firmware updating, music, photos and video syncing (ok, I know I'm prolly getting flamed for this one, but I honestly believe that even with all the efforts from Google to make everything clound-based, I still see the necessity of having an offline organization tool)
-custom account sync time (set a schedule for auto syncing contacts, agenda, etc...)
-enable online browsing and managing of apps, music, photos, contacts, call log... all in a single website, like Microsoft wants to implement on Windows Phone Series 7 (see http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/windows-phone-live-to-offer-remote-wipe-location-and-sync-for/ )
-Keyboard and Languages:
-tweaks on the keyboard including multitouch support (like the Droid X)
-make the keyboard not take the whole screen (eg. you can see the actual app you're using while typing instead of seeing only the text box - really needed for chatting apps)
-portuguese dictonary (I'm from Brazil, but I mean adding more languages to Android's dictionary) [the OS is already available in portuguese]
-more voice commands (like the iphone) with support for more languages
-Marketplace:
-better looking games and apps (this issue goes much deeper then just the UI)
-isolate the CRAPPS (soundboards, sexy japanese girl wallpapers, 50 cent ringtones, etc) in a different category
-create an approval process (completely debatable, but if it's ever created, it should not ressemble apple's flawed approval process and should not run away from Google's open philosophy)
-improve developer finantial gains with their apps (see: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/05/report-over-half-of-all-android-apps-are-free/ ; http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...gaming-on-android-and-how-openfeint-may-help/ ; http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010 ; http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ )
-find a way of reducing pirated and stolen apps (for example, blocking backing up paid apps: today, users can simply buy an app from the market, back it up using astro or some other tool, then they uninstall it to get a refund then they'll install the backed up app and keep both the money and the app)
-better organisation of cateories and better browsing and searching (search suggestions)
-GODDAMN GOOGLE MAKE THE MARKETPLACE PAID APPS AVAILABLE IN MORE COUNTRIES
-The comment below was copied from Android Central, originally posted by credo on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:08, as I thought he had some great insights on the market from a developer's point of view (see: http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010#comment-47392)
" 1) Being able to purchase an app off the web. The big reason I have for this is marketing -- currently there's no good place for me to link a banner ad or other promotion to. This means the user has to manually search for my app in the marketplace to buy it, or scan a QR code. Not exactly impulse-purchase friendly. This is being taken care of with 2.2, but it won't be something I can rely on for a long time after that (the vast majority of the phones would need to be on 2.2).
2) Better descriptions in the listings. Not even much longer necessarily, but a dedicated changelog space (for example) would be fantastic, especially if it maintained history. Dedicated space to link to a video, or a free/paid version, etc could help a lot.
3) Tagging for the listings ("aquarium", "live wallpaper", "fish", "etc"). Currently, not only am I limited to 325 characters (about 30 of which have to go to my current changelog entry) but that couple of sentences I DO have had better include as many relevant search terms as I can manage! A place to enter a dozen or so tags would go miles to making the description space good for actual description. Come up with a big list of standardized tags and put them in a drop-down to help keep it organized.
4) The ability to respond to comments. I mean really, if I'm the developer let me post comments/replies freely. I'm thinking the eBay feedback mechanism here. It's agonizing to see somebody post a blatantly wrong negative comment and there's nothing meaningful I can do about it.
Personally, I've been doing okay with the market overall, but that's because I've focused on something of a niche with some definite consumer appeal (I've made several live wallpapers, like Silhouette, Galactic Core, City at Night, Aquarium Live Wallpaper, etc. Check here if you're interested.). It IS hard to find things on the market and with only the 325 character description to convey ALL your information, it's hard to explain all your features even when the customer does find your item."
That's it guys, hope you like the idea. Waiting for users input.
EDIT: Mods, please feel free to move this post if deemed necessary. I was not quite sure about where I should post it.
Wow. I like the ideas but to this point Google hasn't exactly been interested in acting upon any request, no matter how obvious, necessary or simple, and that's an ass load of requests. But sure I agree 720p recording and all the rest would be great.
wholeheartedly agree with you on every point...
Google is a few major DUH points from having a relatively perfect OS...some things just make zero sense whatsoever...like not having a simple add button and a check box contact list to send a text to more than one person in the stock app...1.0, 1.1, 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.0.1, 2.1, 2.2 and still this simple feature has not been implemented.
also the music player is ridiculous...seriously...like for real...wtf?
Hey so you're Kittehface.
Good list.
Please add:
-GODDAMN GOOGLE MAKE GOOGLE VOICE/GOOGLE NAVIGATION AVAILABLE IN MORE COUNTRIES.
Granted more countries are having navigation but most Asian countries are still left in the dark.
Launcher pro transitions is so much smoother between home screens, it must be hitting 60 fps easily. Google could easily fix their stock launcher to match it
fiuza91 said:
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, 1st: it is SLOW. It takes AGES to open an email with images even on a fast wifi connection. 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone?
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No threaded view? Uh, what?
fiuza91 said:
-fix multitouch (I know ClearPad 2000 is not very good at dealing with multitouch but there is room for software/driver optimization)
What exactly is wrong with it. i havent had any issues, but other people seem to
-improve touchscreen subtle delay after touch (again, maybe a ClearPad 2000 issue, not sure about it)
same as above
-trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
General Android:
-isolate images and video files of apps from the gallery app (it is really annoying to see completely unrelated pics from apps in the middle of the pics you've taken with ur camera or copied from ur pc)
This is the fault of the app developer. They need to a) use googles API for external storage and b) they need to put a .nomedia file so it doesnt show up in in gallery or music player
-better live wallpaper performance (using LWP generally slows the system down)
i personally havent had an issue with this either
-tabbed browsing (like Dolphin Browser), better history and bookmark handling
i personally dont think tabbed browsing is that great on mobile devices. i would like a dedicated button to show open windows next to the bookmark button though
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, \ 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone?
AFAIK threaded emails have been there since atleast 1.5. I have it on FRF91 for sure
-enable online browsing and managing of apps, music, photos, contacts, call log... all in a single website, like Microsoft wants to implement on Windows Phone Series 7 (see http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/windows-phone-live-to-offer-remote-wipe-location-and-sync-for/ )
This is coming with gingerbread
-Keyboard and Languages:
-make the keyboard not take the whole screen (eg. you can see the actual app you're using while typing instead of seeing only the text box - really needed for chatting apps)
froyo has this in browser, i think other apps have to be updated for this not sure
-more voice commands (like the iphone) with support for more languages
there are a lot of voice commands that work fine with the voice dialer (but they still require manual confirmation)
-Marketplace:
-better looking games and apps (this issue goes much deeper then just the UI)
lol if its about looks then its about UI. Android has already added opengl libraries. devs just need to use them now
-create an approval process (completely debatable, but if it's ever created, it should not ressemble apple's flawed approval process and should not run away from Google's open philosophy)
cant be open AND have an approval process
-improve developer finantial gains with their apps (see: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/05/report-over-half-of-all-android-apps-are-free/ ; http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...gaming-on-android-and-how-openfeint-may-help/ ; http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010 ; http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ )
Just because they are free doesnt mean that there is no incentive to have paid apps on market, people will buy better products. i do agree that they could be better paid for ads though
-find a way of reducing pirated and stolen apps (for example, blocking backing up paid apps: today, users can simply buy an app from the market, back it up using astro or some other tool, then they uninstall it to get a refund then they'll install the backed up app and keep both the money and the app)
This is already implemented......
-The comment below was copied from Android Central, originally posted by credo on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:08, as I thought he had some great insights on the market from a developer's point of view (see: http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010#comment-47392)
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2) Better descriptions in the listings. Not even much longer necessarily, but a dedicated changelog space (for example) would be fantastic, especially if it maintained history. Dedicated space to link to a video, or a free/paid version, etc could help a lot.
dedicated changelog space is provided in the version area of the market. most devs dont know how to use it though =/
4) The ability to respond to comments. I mean really, if I'm the developer let me post comments/replies freely. I'm thinking the eBay feedback mechanism here. It's agonizing to see somebody post a blatantly wrong negative comment and there's nothing meaningful I can do about it.
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agree with most of the points though
trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
- True, but we should be one to decide that right? At least give us the choice.
fiuza91 said:
-horizontal homescreen (you can have it with custom launchers, but would be nice to see Google implementing it with some cool transitions)
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Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
4) You CAN post comments on your own application and you have been able to on every version of android. It's a bit messy but it works:
Firstly, log in to your google account on your phone and try to purchase your own application. It should say something about it failing. Then, close and re-open the market, navigate to your app and, hey-presto, you can comment
I noticed that most of your points are not "issues" but "suggestions for improvement".
If so please change the post title.
Paul22000 said:
No threaded view? Uh, what?
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There's threaded view on the Gmail app, but not on th email app. I know threaded view is something from Gmail but it would be nice if implemented on the email app (I don't know if requires any server-based modification so I don't know if it's possible)
logger said:
Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
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You're right. Edited my post.
Meltus said:
4) You CAN post comments on your own application and you have been able to on every version of android. It's a bit messy but it works:
Firstly, log in to your google account on your phone and try to purchase your own application. It should say something about it failing. Then, close and re-open the market, navigate to your app and, hey-presto, you can comment
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Don't you think there should be a way of doing it "natively"? I'm sure it would help devs out a lot.
britoso said:
I noticed that most of your points are not "issues" but "suggestions for improvement".
If so please change the post title.
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You're right. Call me an idiot but I can't see any way of changing the thread title. And, "suggestions for improvement" suggest there's something not quite right about whatever, so it is an issue nonetheless.
fiuza91 said:
You're right. Call me an idiot but I can't see any way of changing the thread title.
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Click Edit, then change the title.
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In any case, the only issues I see with the Nexus One are the touch screen is terrible (have to turn off/on to recalibrate lower right corner of screen; multi-touch axes snap together) and the four soft buttons are not aligned correctly with their respective labels.
Other than those two, the Nexus One is downright amazing in my eyes. Everything else is software, which can and will be fixed over time, either by Google or by developers like Cyanogen. ie Nexus One first to receive 2.2, probably the first to receive Gingerbread etc.
Aside from the touch screen being subpar, almost everything else you mentioned is more of a suggestion rather than an issue, as britoso mentioned.
I'm not sure if they can even fix the screen issues with the nexus one. Because I don't really see anything wrong with the phone except for the horrible touchscreen.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Mokurex said:
trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
- True, but we should be one to decide that right? At least give us the choice.
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lol if we had a choice for every little setting in android, then we would be flooded with the amount of settings available in the ROM. people are already complaining about how you have to have a "PhD in Computer Science" (i call BS. I only have a bachelors in SE ) to use android...adding more options will make people think WTF
most people want someone else to take care of everything for them and give them a product that "just works" (i hate you steve jobs)
Paul22000 said:
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I had already clicked edit, but I can't change the title.
By the way, thanks for the input everyone! This is part of what makes a community like XDA great.
fiuza91 said:
I had already clicked edit, but I can't change the title.
By the way, thanks for the input everyone! This is part of what makes a community like XDA great.
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make sure you not hittin quick edit lol. it should be under title
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make sure you not hittin quick edit lol. it should be under title
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Found it. I had to click "edit post" twice actually. I know that me not being able to change a simple title sounded noob, but I was just blind or something lol
logger said:
Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
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Can someone write application to emulate that the phone is in car dock without physically being in the dock?, this will enable the horizontal stock features
By removing:
- TimescapeLargeUI.apk
- TimescapeLargeUIThemeBlue.apk
- TimescapeLargeUIThemeGreen.apk
- TimescapeLargeUIThemeIndigo.apk
- TimescapeLargeUIThemeOrange.apk
- TimescapeLargeUIThemeSakura.apk
- TimescapePluginManager.apk
- TimeScapeProvider.apk
...in the system/app directory with root explorer(mount r/w) or other root file managing software. Just deleting these apps alone allow you to GREATLY increase the snappieness(get it...snapdragon) of the X10. Personally I find that it is a useless App that bogs down the phone more then it's worth. Once you have uninstalled it then restart the phone. Ensure that before you remove Timescape that you don't remove any other files at the same time before restarting as this will eliminate the possibility of the timescape removal creating an error.
Do not remove gtalk.apk, or any other google apk's as you are risking messing up some features (Market for example)
Other apps I have found are safe to remove: *UPDATED LIST*
- backupandrestore.apk (Second-party app from the market or Titanium backup works better than this default app)
- Calculator.apk (For the most part a very basic calculator, A free Scientific calculator app from the market is worth the download if needed.)
- Any of the Language* apk's (chinese, danish, korean, japanese) *LatineIME.apk is for the default android keyboard(not the initial one you have when you first get your phone, you will only know about it if you changed it)
- Emanual.apk (Not required unless you really need it, you can still access it from the SE X10 support area on their website if needed)
- EManualLauncher.apk (part file for Emanual.apk, remove aswell)
- Facebook.apk (Facebook is for the sad and lonely, I don't care what kind of burrito Sh!t's your having at 4AM)
- LearningClient.apk (Word memory, it works as a word learner when word suggestions are enabled on the keyboard, when typing in a word it sometimes switches to the "correct" word that it thinks after pressing the space button. When you backspace to get the word you wanted to appear again This service looks at that word and if it use more than once on intentionally then it will remember that and give you the option of that word in the suggestions. Thought I might answer that one since people have asked) *If you don't use word suggestions since it slows down texting then you can remove this.
- moxiermail.apk (Gmail.apk or another email app from the market are definitely better than moxier)
- Officesuite.apk (Not the full version, download the full version)
- OMAClientProvisioning.apk
- playnowappinstaller.apk (If you don't use it then toss it, not that interesting) 1
- playnowback.apk (If you don't use it then toss it, not that interesting) 2
- playnowclient.apk (If you don't use it then toss it, not that interesting) 3
- qcsemcservice.apk
- quadrapop.apk (boring game, good for a day or two but then you find better)
- SemcCheckin.apk
- SemcEmailLargeui.apk (along with the email.apk)
- SemcSetupWizard.apk (I set it up already and the only way I would need it again is if I reflashed and I would have all default apps again anyways)
- SetupWizard.apk (part of the previous Semc...apk)
- SnsContactImageCacheProvider.apk
- StatusSwitch.apk
- usersupport.apk (just not needed in general)
- uWlopProvider.apk
- wisepilot.apk (No need if you have Google Maps, Google Earth, Garmin, TomTom, etc)
- youtube.apk (If you have full episodes or movies on your phone and just don't use youtube then theres no need for this bogware)
By deleting these apps I have sped up the X10 so much I'm amazed at how much of a difference I've seen...maybe even a speed increase X10. I can now say I am fully happy with this phone.
List of features working...but faster.
Phone calls
Contacts
All games that normally worked anyways
Camera
HD recording
Settings menu
Wifi
Phonebook
Messaging
Alarm clock
Browser
Calendar
Gmail
Latitude
GMaps
Market
Media Scape
Navigation
Places
Voice Dialer
...everything...I've done my research. Any apps unlisted just means I have deleted them myself, doesn't necessarily mean their not working.
I currently have 183.21MB used with 169.41MB free. Not bad I'd say.
I await your post in about one day asking for the Timescape APKs because you can no longer make phone calls.
You've probably created a placebo effect. You only think the phone is faster. Run benchmarks, then see how the phone operates. You may think deleting browser.apk or dialer.apk is a good idea now, but when you're in an emergency and the phone won't work, you can't blame anyone but yourself.
Also: You don't know what people need/want from their phone, so it's best to not act so superior. (especially because you're far from the first to delete apps from their phone.)
I have looked into what files I can delete and I have also had to re flash because of my curiosity. Since your obviously the degrading type I can see you have an obvious lack of respect for someone who has done the research and the hit and miss troubleshooting of finding out what a general audience would want to possibly remove if not needed. Not everyone has facebook, or uses youtube. I personally prefer using youtube on my monitor compared to a smaller more costly device such as a data restricted cell. I don't use twitter, facebook, or any timescape dependent service as sms/mms are handled through the default sms/mms app that then forwards it's data to timescape. I wouldn't be in the aerospace industry(military to boot) if I have no idea what I am doing. Since I was smart enough to back up all the default app .apk's after a fresh flash then I know I will not be asking you for any of the apk's, your useless comment doesn't carry any weight.
*I was on the phone when I removed the timescape app since it is not tied to the dialer service.
No point in starting an arguement.
But, not everyone is you. If I'm on a long train ride, the ability to watch YouTube videos is a lifesaver. Obviously one could watch on a monitor, but I don't have that option when I'm not at home. The point of a smartphone is to be able to do things you can do with a PC, when you're not at home.
Timescape is tied to many more things than you think, at least in 1.6. Maybe SE removed those dependencies in 2.1, but if you're deleting the major marketing point of the phone, why did you buy the phone to begin with? Just food for thought. Not looking to start fights.
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No point in starting an arguement.
But, not everyone is you. If I'm on a long train ride, the ability to watch YouTube videos is a lifesaver. Obviously one could watch on a monitor, but I don't have that option when I'm not at home. The point of a smartphone is to be able to do things you can do with a PC, when you're not at home.
Timescape is tied to many more things than you think, at least in 1.6. Maybe SE removed those dependencies in 2.1, but if you're deleting the major marketing point of the phone, why did you buy the phone to begin with? Just food for thought. Not looking to start fights.
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Sorry but i know many people who have unistalled Timescape (even Mediascape) since they have 2.1 with no issues at all.
The main purpose of buying the phone for me was not for the software SE has built on top of android(Timescape/Mediascape), but more for the hardware achievement that Sony has produced by packing so much functionality into one mobile device.
Just having android without any manufacturer modification still gives a ton of room for growth and possibilities to be seen. My goal was to supply a list of apps that are safe to delete without disturbing the stability or functionality of the phone as a whole, while providing another easy work around. These apps I know, as I have tested with 3 phones now, do not effect the user experience greatly. Since I have removed the apps I have had no problems with data, texting, phone calls, boot loops, the market, or browsing. Pick and choose which apps you need and don't need but from what I have removed I'm getting a greater user experience based on performance and alternative functionality.
Games and third-party apps still work fine, but are now faster.
Swifty76 said:
The main purpose of buying the phone for me was not for the software SE has built on top of android(Timescape/Mediascape), but more for the hardware achievement that Sony has produced by packing so much functionality into one mobile device.
Just having android without any manufacturer modification still gives a ton of room for growth and possibilities to be seen. My goal was to supply a list of apps that are safe to delete without disturbing the stability or functionality of the phone as a whole, while providing another easy work around. These apps I know, as I have tested with 3 phones now, do not effect the user experience greatly. Since I have removed the apps I have had no problems with data, texting, phone calls, boot loops, the market, or browsing. Pick and choose which apps you need and don't need but from what I have removed I'm getting a greater user experience based on performance and alternative functionality.
Games and third-party apps still work fine, but are now faster.
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I agree. There are many more apps you can delete with no issues, it depends only if you're gonna use them or not.
Swifty76 said:
The main purpose of buying the phone for me was not for the software SE has built on top of android(Timescape/Mediascape), but more for the hardware achievement that Sony has produced by packing so much functionality into one mobile device.
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If you were looking for functionality, you bought the wrong device. Single touch, 65k color screen and 384MB of RAM? Not what I'd call the pinnacle of technical achievements.
The number of dependencies in 1.6 where removed in 2.1 as most of the initial software on the phone are layers. Sony stated that they learned from 1.6 by not going too deep into the core of android but more by means of creating "layers"(boot apps) on top of the core system.
Since they switched to layers they created the possibility to give rooted users the option of choosing alternatives to the initial software. The obvious apps you can remove if unused are facebook and youtube as they are obvious non dependents.(Facebook does have a slight dependency to timescape, but with timescape removed then that issue is not relevant)
iead1 said:
If you were looking for functionality, you bought the wrong device. Single touch, 65k color screen and 384MB of RAM? Not what I'd call the pinnacle of technical achievements.
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For the price to features ratio and the features they have included (8.1 MP Camera, 720P recording, 1Ghz processor, 4.0" tft screen + others) It is as functional as I need. Multitouch will eventually find it's way to the phone one way or another. Also on a 4" screen the difference in colors is unnoticeable side-by-side to other devices that I have checked out. RAMS not an issue with a decent task manager.
I bought the phone to be a android phone.. not some piece of infected bloatware.
I want my phone phone to be mine not SE's..
So if you don't want to remove time scape... then ignore this thread.
OmegaRED^ said:
I bought the phone to be a android phone.. not some piece of infected bloatware.
I want my phone phone to be mine not SE's..
So if you don't want to remove time scape... then ignore this thread.
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Exactly my thoughts. The biggest performance jump I saw from deleting any of the apps was by taking out timescape. I bought the phone because it was android and because a majority of hardware is quality. I didn't buy it because it was SE, that just happened to come with it.
Swifty76 said:
Exactly my thoughts. The biggest performance jump I saw from deleting any of the apps was by taking out timescape. I bought the phone because it was android and because a majority of hardware is quality. I didn't buy it because it was SE, that just happened to come with it.
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Hey Swifty76, do you mind feeding us an update for say maybe the next week or two on the performance of your phone? Just a quick so far it been perfect OR crap I had to reflash because my phone messed up. Reason im asking is because I would remove alot of those apps you listed, but I don't need my phone messing up on me...so just keep us posted on how its going and if all is well Ill go for it to. Thanks for the post.....try to keep an eye on the camera for pictures and video as thats important to me.
uhhh... so i have to root my phone to remove those apps, right?
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Timescape is tied to many more things than you think, at least in 1.6. Maybe SE removed those dependencies in 2.1, but if you're deleting the major marketing point of the phone, why did you buy the phone to begin with? Just food for thought. Not looking to start fights.
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Lol if anyone bought an x10 for timescape nor mediascape
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Yeah you have to root your phone to be able to properly uninstall a majority of these apps. The camera is working great so far on all 3 phones. The camera is saving and viewing properly as well. I would recommend the 3D gallery as a picture viewer. Winamp or poweramp are good for the beats.
Haven't found a decent video player yet, anyone know of some good ones?
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Haven't found a decent video player yet, anyone know of some good ones?
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The only video player worth installing is RockPlayer
ProBoner said:
The only video player worth installing is RockPlayer
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I agree.
For video--- RockPlayer
For Pictures--- Gallery or JustPictures (it has One Touch zoom that works great)
For Music--- PowerAmp (simply amazing!)
OBS dont remove gtalk, it will couse a lot of problems, trust me, if you did, read here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6822850
fuusuke said:
Lol if anyone bought an x10 for timescape nor mediascape
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I've said it probably three hundred times on these forums: We are NOT the target audience for this phone. The phone sells to millions, each who bought it for different reasons. I regret my purchase, as now Docomo is releasing Japanese-market focused Android phones, instead of the world-focused X10.
But yeah, to the OP, my point was, you can't just delete everything in one go, say performance is awesome 20 minutes later. There's just no way to tell how the phone will do after a week or two in this state. Maybe it really is that much faster, which would be nice. But, to prematurely say it's amazing then find out later that something doesn't work properly would suck. And, from reading XDA, people always delete things they need and come back and whine about them because they didn't back up properly.
so here is the Blur edition based on my 2.2.1.
You can also follow updates on Twitter now: Dexter Picard (DexterPicard) on Twitter or
if you like my mod or you can visit my new homepage at Dexter's mods
Changelog v0.4 maintenance release Download nandroid image here
- memory enhancements (some not majors)
- original 2.1 cam included.
Changelog v0.3a Download nandroid image here
- fixed blur account registration to be using UK options, instead of chinese options
- changed memory handling to be UI optimized, but limiting options for bigger games to run though (see it as UI friendly but not games friendly)
Changelog v0.3
- 720P recording works now.
- HDMI output partly working, note: if enabled to tv out, you cannot shutdown the output, so android display appear on tv, which is a bug. but it works!
- NOT working: FMRadio
- Using latest defy 2.2 UK update, with more languages supported, like uk,german,french, italian, dutch,polish and few more others.
- USB old app from 2.2 added (please ignore wifi orange icon in taskbar, thanks!)
- removed some malware + swype defy edition.
- not deodex'd (much faster load times)
- ZOOM removed (not supported by our model)
- OpenRecovery not included in nandroid, please install after restore, to keep functionality in place.
- MilestoneOverclock app not included, but module and oc-settings file supported.
- ext2sdcard automatically enabled if found on partition2 of sdcard.
- gameloft games require more memory this rom got like 35MB free when running, so you need to tweak apps if you want games to run.
Install instructions:
Make sure sdcard is visible, when you get to step 6 of instructions, or it all fails, same with restore..
NOTE: only works on top of 2.1 sbf installs, due to large amound of /system storage..
A: users with stock 2.1 can proceed to step 1 in instructions.
B: users with stock SBF korean 2.2 rom , need to flash stock 2.1 and goto step 1
root it (SuperOneClick ) - included with zip
install OpenRecovery , use included apk.
reboot phone once
copy the folder "nandroid" to root directory of your sdcard.
Make sure sdcard is not attached to pc using "mass storage share" to pc.
Run OpenRecovery app and "install Recovery".
Press Boot recovery
restore the backup "blur22xxxx"
wipe / factory reset in OpenRecovery
reboot
OC-SETTINGS
you can add a file onto the sdcard with overclock settings which loads at startup.
see example included with zip file release for more details.
copy it directly to sdcard, and you got 1Ghz settings configured.
note: editing the file with notepad might corrupt it as its linux formatted, so use an editor with support for linux text files.
Issues reported in v0.3:
none for now
v0.1 is now online!
DEFINITELY testing this when I get home
Dex you're a genius
refresh, refresh.. downloading.... restoring
More info tomorrow, 10x Dexter !
haven't gotten a chance to flash yet, download is taking FOREVER, but after its done, if i wanna change back, do i just do a nandroid restore of one of your froyo roms? or do i have to flash back to 2.1 first?
OH THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
I was about to sell the XT720 because I wanted Blur. Now I'll have it!
I LOVE YOU!
I hope it comes in spanish language soon
first bugs to report (quite a few...)
I recieve multiples of sms messages, e.g., i would recieve the same message from the same person several times.
market does not like to have multiple downloads at the same time.
in the app drawer, the very very bottom of the screen is slightly cut off, no big deal, just saying.
in the Blur messaging widget, using the reply button on the widget will.not allow the message to send, message can still be typed, but will.not send.
vibrate function will randomly stop working, and requires a reboot.
media gallery button serves as voice command..? yeah.
market and browser will occasionally not work on wifi.
if there are more bugs i will be right on it
now the good
Blur works!!!
ram is not totally devoured, actually pretty good compared to previous froyo release. (although some system apps like the included task manager and bluetooth are constantly running, i do not have bluetooth on.)
very stable, usable build, i will be using it daily until the next release.
great stuff dex
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holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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alx294 said:
holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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with oc or stock clock processor?
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Few bugs from me:
- Market download/install is very, very slow.
- I think that maybe there is some battery drain because from my last post (in the middle of the night) after I install Blur till now - 50% down. This is with 3g and few mails to check. TEMP+CPU shows 36C but when I wake up I think that the phone was s little hot in the back.
Except Blur I don`t have different software installed (comparing to 2.2).
During this post the phone don`t recognize the USB in PC... I`m not sure were is the problem (phone., soft or PC) so for the moment this is not reported.
- Maybe this is not a bug, but there is japan letters in some menus - phone (when I dial persons, recent call s and rrs news).
- It`s stupid but the phone unlock (slide) is very much harder than before...
- There is more free memory (This is not a bug!)
grigorbg said:
Few bugs from me:
- Market download/install is very, very slow.
- I think that maybe there is some battery drain because from my last post (in the middle of the night) after I install Blur till now - 50% down. This is with 3g and few mails to check. TEMP+CPU shows 36C but when I wake up I think that the phone was s little hot in the back.
Except Blur I don`t have different software installed (comparing to 2.2).
During this post the phone don`t recognize the USB in PC... I`m not sure were is the problem (phone., soft or PC) so for the moment this is not reported.
- Maybe this is not a bug, but there is japan letters in some menus - phone (when I dial persons, recent call s and rrs news).
- It`s stupid but the phone unlock (slide) is very much harder than before...
- There is more free memory (This is not a bug!)
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thanks to all for the quick reporting back.
- sms -
i think i know where the problem is, as it also happened on milestone :-( and i recall i got it fixed.
- jananese text -
not sure im able to fix, i dont get the lang, and im no translator..
- battery drain -
Blur is known for taking huge cpu and not being "sleepy", just looking at the log output happening during sleep is huge.. i did not expect Blur to be optimized at all.. and im not sure how it can be fixed except removed Blur, with a Deblur.
- slider -
yes, it seems it release your touchpoint much quicker than it should.. ill look at it, i think someone else wrote something like this on korean rom.
- usb .
i used only debugging, so i never actually confirmed usb mass storage.. will be checked later on..
- networking -
i noticed it too with Market, there is an issue with the Market im aware of, but might require a deodex'd of packages, which cost speed and memory/storage, so im not sure how much i do on this subject for now..
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holy crap... quadrant scores ranged from 1500-1700....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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please do not put anything into this..
it could relate to a bug in h264 or aac encoding, so if LGCamera does not encode video or audio with aac, you know the reason..
Yes! MotoBlur Gonna try it asap @Dexter: Little hint: maybe a few screenshots of how it looks on the XT720?
And can I help with translating or is that not possible? 'Cause I've translated various programs, I love to do that and I have a lot of spare time, so I can translate it if possible.
Bug not charging while connected to the charger
pritesh_100_in said:
Bug not charging while connected to the charger
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Sorry..not.. a bug one reboot and the cell is charging now
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please do not put anything into this..
it could relate to a bug in h264 or aac encoding, so if LGCamera does not encode video or audio with aac, you know the reason..
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lol this is true... and i am oc'ed.... darn i was excited xD
anyway, i also have the lockscreen bug, and the wifi issue is persistant with all apps not just market and browser.
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LG camera sucks for me. I'm using a camera from the Android market now, but I can use it only at 3.2MP in the free version. But it is still really good
There are some problems with the Blur accounts (I can't setup facebook for the social widgets) And the phone doesn't read my music and some pictures in the SD card.
Everything else is just
-Facebook account issues
After creating and signing in with Facebook, account disappears and contacts are not synced in contacts and cannot add facebook account again.....
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-Facebook account issues
After creating ad signing in with Facebook, accound disapears and contacts are not syncked in contacts and cannot add facebook account again.....
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for twitter and facebook, the Blur edition used (defy 2.2), it did not actually come with those apps :-( , so maybe chinese ppl do not have it allowed? even GPS was disabled originally..
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Yes! MotoBlur Gonna try it asap @Dexter: Little hint: maybe a few screenshots of how it looks on the XT720?
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for people used to knowing motorola and their products, Blur might not need much presentation, it pretty much looks Blur to me.. and i admit knowing alot who goes for a Deblur edtion, but that i leave up to people to decide..
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for twitter and facebook, the Blur edition used (defy 2.2), it did not actually come with those apps :-( , so maybe chinese ppl do not have it allowed? even GPS was disabled originally..
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Can you fix some of this things?
facebook/twitter accounts, camera?
Well after owning my desire for a few weeks i have noticed that i keep coming here to look at the appbrain lists and then having to click the link to see what the apps actually do besides that there are lots and lots of pages to scan through to get the apps you actually need/want. So i thought why not put a page together to help all the n00bs like myself out and have all the apps plus a description in one thread
Post 1! Pure Apps .. applications with a function
Post 2! Games .. something to get those fingers tapping
Post 3! Customization .. apps that will make your homescreen or other apps look like you want them too
So here it is
XDA-Developers
Read post and send PM's on our beloved XDA no app list would be complete without it!
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Handcent
SMS & MMS tool with more options than The standard sms app including popups And LED notifications.
FREE
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SMS popup
A more lightweight (but less feature rich) SMS and MMS tool. Receive an SMS get a popup with quick reply!. Free version has no features disabled so added the donate version link if you like it send a little their way to support them.
FREE / Donate
FREE DONATE
LED me know
LED and sound notifications for all sort Of apps from sms to mms.
FREE
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SWYPE
Typing app that allows you to type words without removing your finger from the screen SWYPing from one letter to the next. Very accurate faster for a lot of users . Use anywhere with an on screen keyboard. Current version is BETA and requires e-mail on phone to register.Note BETA testing is currently open to a certain amount of users.
FREE
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Astro
Simple easy to use file explorer with bluetooth support , file search , task manager and app manager all in one. Two version available free or paid . Free is ad supported but fully functional.
FREE / $3.99
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Alarm clock plus v2
Want more than the standard 3 alarms - This app does just that with an extensive features list. Again free and paid versions are available. Free version is also ad supported.
FREE / $1.79
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Alarm Klock
Another alarm clock app with slide to dismiss. Not quite as many features as Alarm clock plus (no math to turn off etc) but if all you want is a simple alarm then this is the way to go.Totally free app no adds and a nice slide to dismiss feature.
--Thanks to JonasKP --
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Vizbattery
Adds a battery widget to a homescreen to see the % amount left in your battery. Newest version removed GPS tracking - wasn't really needed but allowed users to start GPS through the widget but now no longer supported.
FREE
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There are lots of apps for doing this type of thing so i will add any more you have at request.
Tasker
Automate your tasks with almost unlimited combinations. Set it to turn on your GPS at home time and text your other half to get the tea ready when you get home turn off GPS and internet and connect to wifi instead. Tasker is not a free app but is worth every penny once set up. WARNING Tasker has a severe learning curve attached to it - See attached website before you buy to ensure you can make it work for you!
$6:30
HOMEPAGE LINK
SKYPE
If you haven't used SKYPE online already it is a very cheap alternative to making a phone call using the internet. It does cost to make calls to a landline but is a free app and a SKYPE to SKYPE call will cost you very little data. If you are on an unlimited data plan you can SKYPE to SKYPE all day long.
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MSN talk
Not official but still very good app for MSN (live messenger) free and paid versions available - paid version allows sending of files.
FREE / $4.72
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Solo (lite)
Solo is an app to play guitar on your phone can't get much of a tune going myself but if you have quick fingers then give it a go.Limited - free version and paid version available.Paid version comes with more guitars and a few more functions.
FREE / $3.95
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Google Goggles
Want to know anything about something in front of you? . Take a photo with google goggles and it searches the internet for you can even use to find stuff cheaper.Will also scan QR barcodes to get your apps quicker.
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Tapatalk
Widely used forum app. Helps you manage and control usernames and passwords and gives you lots of extras like uploading pictures etc. This is a paid for only app so only really useful if you use forums a lot or just don't like logging in every time.
$2.96
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1-click cleaner
Not quite 1-click unles you are rooted this app will show you all the apps that are using cache files so you can clean each cache - will also clean up your sms. Handy to free up some space
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Google Maps
Ok so you're going to say "but iv'e already got google maps on my desire" , well you are correct you do have it on your desire but the reason i mention it here is that some versions of google maps don't or won't tell you there is an update out even when logged into the market. So it goes into my app list just to make you aware you can search for and update from the market.
FREE
No link as everyone knows what it does!!
Tip: Update streetview at the same time
Vplayer
This video player literally blew my mind copy video files to your sd card and play them. Works amazingly well on all popular formats. Once you see the quality of the video it's well worth the money.
FREE TRIAL ($4.75 to unlock)
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This is by no means a complete listing so please feel free to offer up your favourite apps or some that you wish you had found when you first started using your desire and i will add them up.
Please don't post any task killers as they are not needed by the android o/s and more often than not do more harm than good so i'm afraid i won't be adding them up here.
Post 1! Pure Apps .. applications with a function
Post 2! Games .. something to get those fingers tapping
Post 3! Customization .. apps that will make your homescreen or other apps look like you want them too
This post is for the Gamers among you!
Angry Birds
For me the most addictive game since space invaders. Use various birds in a catapult to smash the green pigs that stole their eggs. Lots of increasingly difficult,frustrating and soo adictive levels with differently coloured birds each with their own ability if you tap the screen mid flight.
Surprisingly FREE
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Angry Birds seasons
Same as above but you've guessed it seasons instead. Same addictive gameplay and handy once you've completed the first one.
Surprisingly FREE
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Modern Combat 2
From Gameloft comes a great shoot em up if you are a big fan of war games you will probably like this . Video splash on start is excellent and gameplay although hard to get used to at the start is smooth and well thought out by the devs. Good game but no free version so check out the link before you go an buy it.
From $4.99 (at time of writing occasionally they have offers)
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Stupid Zombies
Looks like this game uses the same type of controls as angry birds. Same deal lots of levels and very addictive. Aim and shoot all the zombies ..Simples!
FREE (Ad-supported)
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Post 1! Pure Apps .. applications with a function
Post 2! Games .. something to get those fingers tapping
Post 3! Customization .. apps that will make your homescreen or other apps look like you want them too
This post is to make your homescreen a little nicer or behave the way you want it to!
Launcher Pro
Launcher pro at first seems like a stripped down version of sense but as you get more used to it you will notice that it's a completely different thing altogether. It will allow you to customise the amount of homescreens the transition when you move from one to the other and allows you a clean canvas for widgets and icons. It will also allow you a bigger homescreen where you can switch the amount of rows and columns. This launcher gives you so many options it's unreal.
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TIP! Download home switcher to switcher to switch between Launcher and sense.
TIP! If you decide to stick with launcher pro ensure your sense home screens are clear - this will reduce battery usage.
Home Switcher
Allows you to switch between launchers.Standard and Froyo versions available.
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Desktop Visualizer
Desktop Visualizer allows you to change icons on your homescreen to add custom icons for things such as apps bookmarks etc.Icons can be downloaded and selected from your sd card to add a bit of class to your icons and your homescreen. Very handy if you are trying to stay with one theme for everything.
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SiMi
SiMi is a folder app that allows you to put various different types of folder onto your homescreens. Nothing that Android won't already do for you except this tool has the added bonus of making invisible folders (see attached video link) you can still tap the folders and it will come up with a list of apps within them but when folders are closed you can see all of your wallpaper. Useful for those who want a clean homescreen but still want to be able to open apps from the homescreen.
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Beautiful Widgets
Beautiful widgets give you more selection for making your homescreen look a little more customized. Includes clock weather and toggle widgets and over 300 skins to change the look. Only downside to this app is there is no free version (feel free to correct me). Useful for those with a custom ROM or those who just want a different look.
$2.04
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Fancy Widgets
Simlar to beautiful widgets but has a free version with limited capability. Pro version also available with lots more options.
FREE / $1.99
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Wallpaper Wizardrii
Wallpaper utility allows you to crop wallpapers as well as disable the wallpaper scroll. Useful for those of you who want a static picture as your wallpaper without the landscape look. For custom ROM users please note this may have some issues if used with a landscape Gsensor homescreen.
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WOW....Thank you....keep it coming
shakeebkazia said:
WOW....Thank you....keep it coming
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You're welcome i'll do my best to fill it up. Will also try to post some requests from the questions forum if i find something that's useful.
Hey war... for the alarm clock i recomend the app called alarm klock... same as the one mentioned, but 100% free of adds and is free of charge
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JonasKP said:
Hey war... for the alarm clock i recomend the app called alarm klock... same as the one mentioned, but 100% free of adds and is free of charge
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Excellent thank you checked it out not as many features as acp but still a worthy alternative and im all for no ads so added to the list mate Thanks
Hi thanks for all this list ! Can you advise me for the best or a good App - Task Killer please ? For the moment i use TaskPanel.
Best Regards.
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Hi thanks for all this list ! Can you advise me for the best or a good App - Task Killer please ? For the moment i use TaskPanel.
Best Regards.
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Ok i added at the bottom of the post mate Task killers won't be added to this thread they can turn out to do more harm than good and aren't needed within the android os
I'm going to change this thread around shortly and post Apps in post 1, Games in post 2 and Customization in post 3 just to keep them seperate
Coming soon --- launchers,widgets and even more customizations
Sounds great will keep an eye out for the update....
Some of us like wm7... but we really have no money... so comes alternaties like spb mobile shell, htc sense, titanium, and other homes to satisfy our wm7 needs (or wants)... These two softwares act like alternatives to wm7 lovers... Todayxlive, a home plugin activated from the 'home' settings (very same one you use to change themes) and Metrohome65, an external app... while the external app works fine, its troublesome to keep switching and the Todayxlive keeps crashing and you have to keep restarting the phone... (plus when you want to look for default apps to fix to the home screen, the names eg htcalbummanager htcmanila and others boggle your mind...) but its all worth a try...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087494 (todayxlive)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169090 (metrohome65)
Edit:forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639288 (this one does not really have a name, and I'm not really sure if its a standalone app or home plugin...)
Good Luck!!
any screenshot bro ??
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any screenshot bro ??
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screenshots scan be found from the individual threads. at this point. it seems todayxlive is okay for daily use. be sure to have a backup home like titanum or something in case u find todayxlive crashing frequently.