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Yesterday I hard bricked my GS4 trying to update it to marshmellow. The repair will cost $40 and this is after I spent $110 replacing the digitizer. I decided to give up on that device (It was getting a bit beat up anyway).
Walmart is currently selling the ATT version for $250. I bought it but now I am wondering if it is still worth the value now (late 2015). The S4 was starting to show its age especially with the bloatware which is why I was attempting to upgrade the OS. What better place to ask this than a forum full of tech geeks like me who have actually used the device!
So, what do you guys say? Is it worth it now to buy as a daily driver? What do you guys think of the cost? How is the custom rom community? I saw that Samsung EOLed it at 5.0 but what are the chances custom roms will keep going for a few more versions? I have just started to browse this section of xda. The S4 was a hassle especially if people accidentally upgraded it to Lollipop. I know I followed the directions to a T but I still go the hard brick so I am hesitant to attempt to mess around with a Samsung device again.
If anyone has experience with the S4, how is the experience compared to it?
Sorry if this stuff was recently asked, I just quickly browsed the front page of this section
I just got rid of s4 for note 3 also (got mine used £100) note is fantastic but I think you should read read and re read before jumping in. How did you hard brick s4 can you enter bootloader or recovery. As for note 3 I'm running phonesis 5.1.1 as primary and marshmallow test build as secondary rom.
Just get rooted and get a good backup (including efs) and you will be fine
I just really hated the bloatware on the s4 and I thought it really slowed the phone down. My S4 is completely unresponsive, When I plug it into my comp it reads it as an unknown qualcomm device. Do you feel like you could use the note 3 as a daily device for another year?
Yes most definitely nice speed boost from s4 2gb to 3gb makes everything that bit smoother. Stick note5 port on it
Well I don't know which version of S4 you had, but I had the Exynos version and believe me when I say this the software was diabolical, I don't rememeber what version of Android it was, probably KitKat 4.4.2, in any case there was no support for that phone, and had to sell it. Then that hatred of TouchWiz continued in me, and I moved to M7, then sold it in less than couple of months, then bought Moto X 2013, which I literally enjoyed for first two three months, until I realised how pathetic the display was, so sold it and then bought Note 3 last year November, and believe me when I say this, I absolutely love this phone. KitKat was excellent, and despite what people say about ofiicial Lollipop 5.0, I love it too, I don't find any bugs at all! Just wished Xposed was as good as it was on KK. Anyway, for me this phone is performing excellently on 5.0, and especially with Shinto kernel, super smooth.
So if you are not hell-bent with Marshmallow, can live with 5.0 TouchWiz LP, then yes, go on. I believe even with this iteration of Android this phone can run smooth for at least another 5-6 months. Then there are custom ROMs like you said. CM13 is already there, Android 6.0 and all that, I will never touch it, but you know if its your cup of tea, its there. There are Note 5 5.1.1 ports are there as well. Also there are two or three very good to great kernels out there. So I believe if you can live with a decent enough speced phone, then go on, but practically no, I don't think one should get a Note 3 at the end of 2015, especially when Note 4 is really cheap nowadays, and even Note 5 is becoming cheaper gradually, though I am not a fan of it.
I will probably keep using this phone until S7 is announced, then I will have glimpse whether Samsung will bring back user removable battery and IR blaster or not, and I will make my decision accordingly.
I've been offered a pretty amazing deal on an S6 Edge Plus DUOS, however having read here for the last couple of days it seems there's no decent quality tempered glass protector for this phone and quite a few of the film screens seem to peel up when used with a tough case.
For me having good protection for my phone (I've got an Otterbox on my S5 DUOS) is a must have and as I do work near water a lot waterproof resistance is highly preferred.
The cost difference between the S6 I've been offered and a S7 Edge DUOS is almost $300 so which way do I go?
It appears there is a much better range of accessories for the S7 Edge and it looks to me like the S6 Edge Plus units never really took off (mainly because the S7 was launched so soon afterwards).
What to do, what to do?
pinsb said:
I've been offered a pretty amazing deal on an S6 Edge Plus DUOS, however having read here for the last couple of days it seems there's no decent quality tempered glass protector for this phone and quite a few of the film screens seem to peel up when used with a tough case.
For me having good protection for my phone (I've got an Otterbox on my S5 DUOS) is a must have and as I do work near water a lot waterproof resistance is highly preferred.
The cost difference between the S6 I've been offered and a S7 Edge DUOS is almost $300 so which way do I go?
It appears there is a much better range of accessories for the S7 Edge and it looks to me like the S6 Edge Plus units never really took off (mainly because the S7 was launched so soon afterwards).
What to do, what to do?
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Not to be a troll, but you ask this in the S6 Edge+ forum, so what answer do you think most will give you? ?
I had the S7 Edge and didn't like it. Mainly because of the smaller screen, my mistake I know, and I believe that my Gold S6 Edge+ is more beautiful than S7 Edge...
/CK
Café King said:
Not to be a troll, but you ask this in the S6 Edge+ forum, so what answer do you think most will give you?
I had the S7 Edge and didn't like it. Mainly because of the smaller screen, my mistake I know, and I believe that my Gold S6 Edge+ is more beautiful than S7 Edge...
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I expect the members who read this will give an honest appraisal based upon my needs, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my time asking.
Go for the s7 edge.
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S7 better battery, better night shots, water proof
S6 edge plus better for all the rest (thinner, display, sun days camera shots, "look", cost)
S6 edge plus you can use screen protector OR the case...because the case lifts the film (it does not matter if it's glass or plastic made)
S7 I didn't test this occurrence
pinsb said:
I've been offered a pretty amazing deal on an S6 Edge Plus DUOS, however having read here for the last couple of days it seems there's no decent quality tempered glass protector for this phone and quite a few of the film screens seem to peel up when used with a tough case.
For me having good protection for my phone (I've got an Otterbox on my S5 DUOS) is a must have and as I do work near water a lot waterproof resistance is highly preferred.
The cost difference between the S6 I've been offered and a S7 Edge DUOS is almost $300 so which way do I go?
It appears there is a much better range of accessories for the S7 Edge and it looks to me like the S6 Edge Plus units never really took off (mainly because the S7 was launched so soon afterwards).
What to do, what to do?
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I don't undestand your doubt, cause you answered to your self in the second paragraph of your speech...
6 edge plus - as long as you're going for the 64gb.
Looks better, bigger screen, 16:9 camera and similar performance to to s7 edge.
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First of questions DON'T belogn in this thread. People should know better.
Request for movement to Q&A subforum has been made.
And secondly this is not a question to be made in a forum where we don't know you.
There's so much that goes into a choice like that. Try both and make up your own mind.
HanZie82 said:
First of questions DON'T belogn in this thread. People should know better.
Request for movement to Q&A subforum has been made.
And secondly this is not a question to be made in a forum where we don't know you.
There's so much that goes into a choice like that. Try both and make up your own mind.
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What?
As it's a general question it was more appropriate in the other forum.
And I shouldn't ask a question because "....we don't know you...".
This is a public forum and I've been a member for years, what are you smoking?
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What?
As it's a general question it was more appropriate in the other forum.
And I shouldn't ask a question because "....we don't know you...".
This is a public forum and I've been a member for years, what are you smoking?
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As for the moving part they explain it pretty clear in the rules.
This post might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s6-edge-plus/general/questions-qa-section-t3180244
And you don't have to resort to weird assumptions.
As my only meaning was to help as the respons you would get here are hard to reason with when you don't know the people telling them.
And your reaction clearly states that to be true, as my intentions were merely positive yet you took it as a negative remark...
HanZie82 said:
As for the moving part they explain it pretty clear in the rules.
This post might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s6-edge-plus/general/questions-qa-section-t3180244
And you don't have to resort to weird assumptions.
As my only meaning was to help as the respons you would get here are hard to reason with when you don't know the people telling them.
And your reaction clearly states that to be true, as my intentions were merely positive yet you took it as a negative remark...
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I didn't resort to weird assumptions.....your use of language was quite definitive.
You stated "....secondly this is not a question to be made in a forum....".
That's a statement, if you want to be helpful couch you language in less confrontational terms, for example you could have said "...perhaps you would find more opinions if you were more specific in what information you were looking for....", see, less confrontational and looking to be more helpful.
You may not be familiar with an English idiom "Shooting from the Hip", perhaps you would find it useful?
I'll not be posting anymore in this thread as your contribution has made it pointless.
I normally get the latest devices, but got the s6 edge plus on T mobile here in the USA a couple of days ago. I use the leasing program called jump on demand so no money down and the cost should I want to own it, ( never do as I exchange phones often ) was reduced to $485 . That was enough for me to take the obsolete version LOL.
I have edge+ and im loving it.
No experience with s7.
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pinsb said:
I didn't resort to weird assumptions.....your use of language was quite definitive.
You stated "....secondly this is not a question to be made in a forum....".
That's a statement, if you want to be helpful couch you language in less confrontational terms, for example you could have said "...perhaps you would find more opinions if you were more specific in what information you were looking for....", see, less confrontational and looking to be more helpful.
You may not be familiar with an English idiom "Shooting from the Hip", perhaps you would find it useful?
I'll not be posting anymore in this thread as your contribution has made it pointless.
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I love my s6 edge plus. And i love xda besides the mean people on here. Seriously dont let that one persons negative remarks stop you from posting on this forum. That was a logical question that you wanted user opinions on! Thanks for your post
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its a no-brainer.
S7 edge is much more superior to the s6 edge+.
much better performance, a much much better battery, more sexy and has a micro sd slot.
the only downside is the price, which is nearly double.
According to this article Sammy decided to discontinue production of the Note 7. Therefore that should make the S7 top dog again right?.. At least until the S8 next year. What I'm saying is maybe we're going to end up with Nougat a bit sooner?.. Since Samsung only has 1 flagship to focus on at this point.. Any other thoughts out there?
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/11/13202608/samsung-galaxy-note-7-discontinued
It may speed up the Nougat process a bit but I wouldn't hold my breath. I know T-Mobile is in the early testing stages still so we'll see I guess.
It means we'll get it when we get it. Everything else is just Internet scuttlebutt.
Probably means that developers who had the note 7 probably changed to a S7 or Edge, which will probably speed up unlocking bootloader and more subscribers to this forum section. Hopefully we get the latest Android by Christmas.
Thoughts?
https://www.google.com/amp/bgr.com/2016/10/12/galaxy-s8-rumors-early-lunch/amp/
Well I'm planing get the s7 edge after retuning my Note 7 so hopefully more people coming to this way and pick up this sección with more rom , mod etc. ..
More updates faster N
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/1...laims/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/1...laims/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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This like everything else is a misunderstanding. They are NOT going to ditch the Iris scanning tech, the s-pen and the rest. They have to much invested in the pen and the apps that go along with it. It would be beyond stupid to do so. My best bet would be no more phone labeled Note since the name is so tainted. I would bet we see an S8, S8 Edge and S8 Pro next year with tons of 3rd party reports of verification before launch of any. I would also bet that the many, many other series of phones will go by the wayside so they can focus on them.
We'll see but I am very skeptical about them ditching the tech from the Note 7.
aergern said:
This like everything else is a misunderstanding. They are NOT going to ditch the Iris scanning tech, the s-pen and the rest. They have to much invested in the pen and the apps that go along with it. It would be beyond stupid to do so. My best bet would be no more phone labeled Note since the name is so tainted. I would bet we see an S8, S8 Edge and S8 Pro next year with tons of 3rd party reports of verification before launch of any. I would also bet that the many, many other series of phones will go by the wayside so they can focus on them.
We'll see but I am very skeptical about them ditching the tech from the Note 7.
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I agree 100% with you. There's no way you can just abandon something like that. Esp. when that was a huge selling point for a like of people.
I'm thinking of switching up. I'm not too hip on IOS yet, but maybe because i'm not at all familiar with it. The Iphone seems very smooth. I dont think Verizon can change up the Iphone system the way they change Samsung to their liking. Much better update system for Apple. (they actually get them) for years. Just trying to get some thoughts. Iphone does without a doubt blow away Samsung in any speed test as does a bunch of lower price phones these days. I think Samsung has been overrated as a powerhouse phone. Dont get me wrong, i've had every Note from Note 2 to Note 7. I've just never had an Apple product and may be ready for a switch to a truly faster phone.
I switched from an iPhone 6 to the S7 Edge (due to the Note 7 being recalled around 2 hours before I sold my Iphone, without my knowledge), and while I do like some things about it, I really miss the apple ecosystem. The update thing is a big plus for iOS, and I didn't research enough before buying the phone to realize the Samsung locks it down so much. My last android phone (Droid DNA) had it's bootloader unlocked before I bought it, so I could flash all kinds of different roms whenever I got bored and it just had the openess that I expected from Android. I bought the S7Edge on the assumption that it would be the same, but unfortunately that's not the case.
Don't get me wrong, I like the phone, but not near as much as my old Iphone, partly due to the software, and partly due to the overwhelming amount of accessories available for Iphones compared to the S7, especially the edge version. The S7E has a beautiful screen, is smaller than my Iphone 6 was (with the same screen size), but I find the edge screen so annoying that I turned it off. It's also annoying that part of the time if I'm using one thumb to reach across the screen to the other side I accidentally brush part of my hand against the edge and open an app that I didn't want to open.
I want to love it, but I like to root my android phones and having to use the engineer kernel to accomplish it has slowed my phone down and lowered the battery life. That's a trade off I accepted though, due to the limitations of the current original development, i.e. very few roms, still locked bootloader, etc... I love the stuff that everyone has done for the phone, especially given it's limitations, so I hope nobody thinks I'm blaming the developers for lack of development, because I sure as hell wouldn't know what to do with it.
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I switched from an iPhone 6 to the S7 Edge (due to the Note 7 being recalled around 2 hours before I sold my Iphone, without my knowledge), and while I do like some things about it, I really miss the apple ecosystem. The update thing is a big plus for iOS, and I didn't research enough before buying the phone to realize the Samsung locks it down so much. My last android phone (Droid DNA) had it's bootloader unlocked before I bought it, so I could flash all kinds of different roms whenever I got bored and it just had the openess that I expected from Android. I bought the S7Edge on the assumption that it would be the same, but unfortunately that's not the case.
Don't get me wrong, I like the phone, but not near as much as my old Iphone, partly due to the software, and partly due to the overwhelming amount of accessories available for Iphones compared to the S7, especially the edge version. The S7E has a beautiful screen, is smaller than my Iphone 6 was (with the same screen size), but I find the edge screen so annoying that I turned it off. It's also annoying that part of the time if I'm using one thumb to reach across the screen to the other side I accidentally brush part of my hand against the edge and open an app that I didn't want to open.
I want to love it, but I like to root my android phones and having to use the engineer kernel to accomplish it has slowed my phone down and lowered the battery life. That's a trade off I accepted though, due to the limitations of the current original development, i.e. very few roms, still locked bootloader, etc... I love the stuff that everyone has done for the phone, especially given it's limitations, so I hope nobody thinks I'm blaming the developers for lack of development, because I sure as hell wouldn't know what to do with it.
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I definitely love the phone too, but I will be switching to the iPhone 7 Plus shortly. This is mostly due to every reason you mentioned plus the fact that I have not really owned an Android phone that has not slowed down significantly over time (except for the LG G5, but it had many other problems).
iPhone is great. I've had several but this phone is so much fun. The only gripe I really have with this phone is battery drain but then again, fast wireless charging completely makes up for it.
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My wife has always owned iPhones and I just bought her the 7 Plus for Christmas. But I do not like ios at all. Also the screen is the same size as my S7 Edge but it has a much larger footprint. One guy replied that Samsung locks down their phones. No one locks down their devices more than Apple. Most of the Android restrictions are from the carriers. I have not noticed a slow down of my phone as another reply suggested. Sometimes you have to clear the cache if things seem to be sluggish. Speed test don't mean a thing when it comes to real world use. I always play around with my wife's iPhones to see how well they run and to me I don't see a significant advantage compared to my Android flagships. My only issue, like someone else mentioned is the overly sensitive edge. That's a common issue with the S7 Edge but not everyone has it. Others have the opposite issue of screen being slow to respond. If not for the screen issue I would keep my Edge for at least 2 years because I like everything else about it. I plan to get the S8 when it is released. But I'll never buy a iPhone for myself.
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Thanks to everyone that replied so far. The feedback is good info. I'm going to keep comparing and patiently wait for Note 8 and new iPhones to come out. A switch to IOS is scary, and the size of the Iphone plus is absurd. That thing is huge!
Honestly I have both and currently hate my iPhone. The loopholes in order to just get a custom icon set is enough for me to miss Android lol
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IPhone does win in getting OS updates. For Android it's the pixel/nexus devices. The s7 edge maybe behind in getting the updates but Samsung is innovative with what they put in TouchWiz/grace ui. IPhone is locked down and you can't customize it at all. It comes down to personal preference.
Example: Pixel got multi window with 7.0 but yet Galaxy devices have had that feature for years. Galaxy devices have and support themes. Samsung pay is better than Android pay. Point is that Samsung devices already have some features of Android 7.0
Also if you buy a s7/s7 edge and hate all the bloatware then just flash g935u firmware on it which gets the updates straight from Samsung and not the carrier.
The only negative thing I'll say after having the s7 edge since launch and coming from a nexus 5 is not being able to unlock the bootloader. I wish I could unlock the bootloader and flash an AOSP rom on my S7 Edge. But I'm gonna stick with this phone for like 2 years (or the Note 8 and get it black Friday 2017) and my next phone will be another Samsung device. I'll make sure my next it has an unlock bootloader so I may have to import the European version if Samsung keeps locking down the US phones. Only the s7 edge g935f European version can unlock the bootloader and run custom roms.
But I've been fine with no root. You can root the US version but the kernel is horrible. Your phone will overheat, lag, and have battery drain issues. So I flashed my S7 Edge to stock non-root g935u firmware a long time ago with the Verizon modem/radio. Plus to use Samsung pay, chase and other apps, you can't have root which I've been using so I'm loving since the first day I got it.
You mention speed test and I can tell you my phone is lag free and runs great including multi tasking in real world. My wife has an iPhone 6s plus and both of our phones run great.
IPhone, galaxy, pixel/nexus: all these phones have their pros and cons and it all comes down to personal preference.
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IPhone does win in getting OS updates. For Android it's the pixel/nexus devices. The s7 edge maybe behind in getting the updates but Samsung is innovative with what they put in TouchWiz/grace ui. IPhone is locked down and you can't customize it at all. It comes down to personal preference.
Example: Pixel got multi window with 7.0 but yet Galaxy devices have had that feature for years. Galaxy devices have and support themes. Samsung pay is better than Android pay. Point is that Samsung devices already have some features of Android 7.0
Also if you buy a s7/s7 edge and hate all the bloatware then just flash g935u firmware on it which gets the updates straight from Samsung and not the carrier.
The only negative thing I'll say after having the s7 edge since launch and coming from a nexus 5 is not being able to unlock the bootloader. I wish I could unlock the bootloader and flash an AOSP rom on my S7 Edge. But I'm gonna stick with this phone for like 2 years (or the Note 8 and get it black Friday 2017) and my next phone will be another Samsung device. I'll make sure my next it has an unlock bootloader so I may have to import the European version if Samsung keeps locking down the US phones. Only the s7 edge g935f European version can unlock the bootloader and run custom roms.
But I've been fine with no root. You can root the US version but the kernel is horrible. Your phone will overheat, lag, and have battery drain issues. So I flashed my S7 Edge to stock non-root g935u firmware a long time ago with the Verizon modem/radio. Plus to use Samsung pay, chase and other apps, you can't have root which I've been using so I'm loving since the first day I got it.
You mention speed test and I can tell you my phone is lag free and runs great including multi tasking in real world. My wife has an iPhone 6s plus and both of our phones run great.
IPhone, galaxy, pixel/nexus: all these phones have their pros and cons and it all comes down to personal preference.
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What do you get for battery life after flashing the 935u?
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What do you get for battery life after flashing the 935u?
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Here's screenshots of what I'm getting for today.
I have literally been trying for 5 hours to root my beloved G935F. I have tried every single method (which didn't ask for 40 dollars), nothing works. I always get stuck in the Samsung screen after I do what it says. I hear it might have something to do with dm-verity. This is my first android phone in 5 years, and I was kinda excited that, after 5 years of Apple, I could jumble my phone up as I see fit. So, this is distasteful.
Could somebody please tell me how I can root my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (G935F)? Pretty pretty please.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-root-exynos-t3646942