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I cant seem to find a single video player in the Market that plays a range of formats, primarily wmv and avi that I have downloaded.
Any suggestions?
I have to make the commute to work a little more bearable since I broke my Sony e-reader...
i know that the 'rock player' plays avi and mkv files, have you tried that one?
Thanks for your reply, I just checked out rock player and it doesn't seem to work.... opens the video for a split second before closing it again...
I guess I'll keep looking.
Any dev looking to port VLC over to android?
BoogWeed said:
Thanks for your reply, I just checked out rock player and it doesn't seem to work.... opens the video for a split second before closing it again...
I guess I'll keep looking.
Any dev looking to port VLC over to android?
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oh thats strange, it works on my hero (they have different versions for different devices, make sure you downloaded the ARMv6 one)
but tbh its not great because theres a lag between the video and the audio, most probably because of the hero's slower processor. i'm looking for a good video player as well
Hmm.. Rock Player started to work by itself.. kinda.
Plays the video for about 15 seconds (very choppy, even after all tasks killed and using a blank Sense Scene) and then freezes the phone, have to remove the battery..
Have u overclocked?
My hero wouldnt run RockPlayer on 691MHz as MAX. Had to down it to 652.
in the end i deleted it, since the video was choppy. i guess the processor just isnt up to handling large video + i hate ruining films on a small screen.
there are some forum posts on VLC Forum about porting to Android... i think the conclusion was that it wasnt going to happen?
My phone is indeed overclocked, to 672Mhz.
I'll try messing around with the OC settings and see if it makes a difference.
I know the processor is *only* 528MHz (stock), but I remember watching videos perfectly well on my Packard Bell 166Mhz, 32mb RAM, 2mb Video card pc...
I think Android should be doing a LOT better with with handling Video, see my post in the "Android 2.3?" thread...
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I know the processor is *only* 528MHz (stock), but I remember watching videos perfectly well on my Packard Bell 166Mhz, 32mb RAM, 2mb Video card pc...
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There is a significant difference between the low quality avi files of the past and the h264 mkv content of today. Some of the recent files require a minimum of a 2GHz processor to run (understandably 1080p content, but still). And lets not forget about the instruction sets which provide desktop cpu's with a boost in those areas. Furthermore, considering your phone only has a cpu and no dedicated or otherwise gpu it isn't all that surprising.
Even running an average quality dvd rip avi file my CPU is running at between 15-25% and I have an overclocked dual core 3.33GHz intel cpu E7300 (25% is roughly 833MHz). Not to mention GPU usage, which at this time I can't be bothered to record.
I understand that this is not definitive evidence but I am using it to show that you are simplifying the problem. TV shows and movies that are ripped now have much higher quality resolutions and bitrates than those of the past, it is not surprising that they require higher processing power. Realistically a 528MHz low power phone cpu is unlikely to be able to keep up with these improvements. Just like the low power Intel Atom desktop chips fail to run 1080p video (even the dual core one) running somewhere in excess of 1GHz (think its 1.6GHz).
That wasn't meant to be such a huge rant...
HAHA! I know I totally simplified it but I guess I was just trying to say that a smart phone in 2010 should be able to handle video with no problems...
My upgrade is due in January, so new handset here I come!
Will be funny to see the (still awesome, despite my rant) HTC Hero become my backup phone...
Anytime I try to play a video file that's 720p or bigger it the Video Player comes up with an error window saying "File cannot be displayed or played". I've tried playing the videos in Rock Player and they don't work there either (either jittery, don't play at all, or only display the first frame while the sound plays in the background).
For reference: all the files are in the mp4 container and are h264 or standard mpeg file type. I've even tried using TubeMate to download videos in 720p from YouTube and those don't work either. I've tried using an external MicroSD and same error.
All of these files work *perfectly* on my Galaxy Tab and any computer I try them on.
For reference, although it wouldn't make a difference, I rooted the device the second it came out of the box.
did a bit more research...found weird things.
Transcoding my videos to FFmpeg (still 720p) even up to around 2,000kbps (didn't try higher) bitrate...the videos worked fine. In h264 they didn't work at all. Currently transcoding a video a few times to test a theory...but I'll report back in a few minutes.
Ok even transcoding the videos smaller than the screen display size (960x540) doesn't make them work if they're in h264. I'm completely lost on this... I'd appreciate someone else trying this stuff out too and seeing if it's just my phone...
Tegra2 has no NEON support so neon version of Rockplayer will not work.
Also Tegra2 cannot decode high-profile H.264 video, which might be your case.
So can it run 720p mkv files then?
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Tegra2 has no NEON support so neon version of Rockplayer will not work.
Also Tegra2 cannot decode high-profile H.264 video, which might be your case.
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Very strange...since Motorola listed H.264 under the codec list for the Atrix...
So what kind of limitations are there? I mean it plays *some* H.264 but not all...so where's the line? Pretty strange that it doesn't play the *MOST* used format in the world lol
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So can it run 720p mkv files then?
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Haven't tried MKV but I've definitely narrowed it down to H.264. amtrak was definitely right, but trying to figure out what kind of limitations that entails.
You're going to want baseline codec, no b frames most likely.
Try handbrake - (http://www.handbrake.fr)
and put these settings in the "Advanced" tab commandline box
ref=5:bframes=0:me=umh:subq=9:mixed-refs=1:8x8dct=0:analyse=all:cabac=0
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You're going to want baseline codec, no b frames most likely.
Try handbrake - (http://www.handbrake.fr)
and put these settings in the "Advanced" tab commandline box
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Have you tried it and seen it working? I'm encoding now using my normal H.264 profile just with 0 b-frames. Anyway to use the baseline codec without using the commandline? Don't want to have to do that everytime
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So can it run 720p mkv files then?
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MKV is a general "container", the actual video is conpressed in different ways.
I'm not really familiar with the difference between high-profile and baseline, but lacking such support is disappointing.
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Have you tried it and seen it working? I'm encoding now using my normal H.264 profile just with 0 b-frames. Anyway to use the baseline codec without using the commandline? Don't want to have to do that everytime
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These are the settings that worked on the Zune HD, a device with the original tegra chipset from nvidia.
Those settings would be transferred over to that device without being re-encoded by the software, so I figure they are pretty much guaranteed to be supported by the Tegra 2 unless nvidia removed some of the featureset.
You should only have to enter the settings once unless you start manually changing the profiles..
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MKV is a general "container", the actual video is conpressed in different ways.
I'm not really familiar with the difference between high-profile and baseline, but lacking such support is disappointing.
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Well I'm trying a transcoding right now with the commandline settings from the post above...it definitely takes a *long* time to encode with these settings (at least 3x as long).
At this point it's just better to encode in FFmpeg. It encodes *very* quickly and the loss in quality is unsubstantial for same-size files.
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Well I'm trying a transcoding right now with the commandline settings from the post above...it definitely takes a *long* time to encode with these settings (at least 3x as long).
At this point it's just better to encode in FFmpeg. It encodes *very* quickly and the loss in quality is unsubstantial for same-size files.
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I didn't really think about the encode time.. I have an i7 at home.. so it only took about 20 minutes for the average hr long tv show..
Maybe if you've got a shorter clip to test it would work better.. I'd love to see the actual video specifications for the Tegra 2.. but nvidia hasn't seen fit to post the exact profile specifications.
This makes me think we may be out of luck for high profile h264 on tegra 2 platforms, though..
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/boxee-box-ditches-nvidias-tegra-2-for-intel-ce4100-pre-orders/ It was one of the reasons cited for boxee box ditching tegra 2..
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Well I'm trying a transcoding right now with the commandline settings from the post above...it definitely takes a *long* time to encode with these settings (at least 3x as long).
At this point it's just better to encode in FFmpeg. It encodes *very* quickly and the loss in quality is unsubstantial for same-size files.
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Aaaand doesn't work. I put the settings you used into the commandline and the file still doesn't work. Apparently the Atrix 4G just doesn't play well with H.264...
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I didn't really think about the encode time.. I have an i7 at home.. so it only took about 20 minutes for the average hr long tv show..
Maybe if you've got a shorter clip to test it would work better.. I'd love to see the actual video specifications for the Tegra 2.. but nvidia hasn't seen fit to post the exact profile specifications.
This makes me think we may be out of luck for high profile h264 on tegra 2 platforms, though..
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/boxee-box-ditches-nvidias-tegra-2-for-intel-ce4100-pre-orders/ It was one of the reasons cited for boxee box ditching tegra 2..
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heh I'm encoding on a Q9550 OC'd to 3.6Ghz. One of the best processors available for transcoding files aside from applications that use both the CPU and GPU in conjunction. It doesn't take *long* but for a 4minute 720p video (around 120Mb) it took almost 8 minutes. Encoding the same video with the normal H.264 profile takes about a minute and a half. Encoding it in FFmpeg took about 35 sec.
This make no sense at all a captivate will play L.3 720p MKV's all day and this phone chokes on lesser material? Something is wrong here, plus the whole excitement around a dual core tegra chip is that you will not have to re-encode anything just drop a file and play. In the brief time I with it today it was chocking on almost any 480p or higher video I threw at it. I also tried multiple video players from the market. These same videos even played fine on a inspire 4G except the L.3 720p that only play on the captivate.
After doing some more research apparently the tegra 2 for all its power sucks at High Profile H264. Which is almost every H264 file on my PC and on the internet. Since my captivate plays High L3.1 720p's I thought for sure this would.
Sigh I guess this isn't my dream phone...
Can someone upload a video to youtube showing the quality of 720p video running on Atrix???
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After doing some more research apparently the tegra 2 for all its power sucks at High Profile H264. Which is almost every H264 file on my PC and on the internet. Since my captivate plays High L3.1 720p's I thought for sure this would.
Sigh I guess this isn't my dream phone...
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That's the thing...I encoded a few videos in other codecs and they worked great...even at 1080p and over 2,000kbps bitrate (basically what BluRay ends up converting down to for the most part). The processor wasn't even taxed at *ALL* (something like 18%). The problem with the high-profile H.264 is that the Atrix refuses to play it...not that it struggles with the actual video output.
The thought is that the tegra 2's gpu cannot hardware decode high profile H264..
What codecs did you use that worked well?
There are a lot of MP4 video clips that I cannot get to play on Xoom smoothly but they play back really well on my HTC Desire.
On Xoom the video is laggy while the audio is audible. This happened to both 720p and 480p videos. I used both the default player and Moboplayer to ensure I am using the hardware acceleration.
Strangely on my Xoom the Moboplayer can soft-decode 480p MP4 with ffmpeg and playback without any problem. 720 is smoother but the decoding was too slow which resulted in A-V async.
Again, all those clips play really well on my HTC Desire. Tegra 2 should be able to handle them.
Anyone knows anything?
Please search the forum before asking questions. This has been asnswered.
The problem you're having is to do with the clips using high profile encoding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968640&highlight=video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968308&highlight=video
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972812&highlight=video
There's lots more. All I can say is, learn to love Handbrake and be prepared to have your computer running all night every night if you ever want to watch HD movies on this thing.
I dont agree; I have transcoded 2 blue rays, hellboy and start trek 2009 in about an hour each, using my imac and handbreak
Oh, and download Vitalplayer from the market for the best hd video playback..
wase4711 said:
I dont agree; I have transcoded 2 blue rays, hellboy and start trek 2009 in about an hour each, using my imac and handbreak
Oh, and download Vitalplayer from the market for the best hd video playback..
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Yeah, well, I don't agree.
I converted 2 720p mkv 90 minute movies and a 40 minute 720p mkv TV show last night and it took 6 hours. This was done on an Intel Core 2 duo P750 2.26GHz
Not everyone has the same hardware. I suppose I could run out and buy an i5 or i7 for the sole purpose of encoding video for the XOOM.
Maybe Motorola can partner with a PC company. How about 20% off a new laptop when you buy a XOOM that way you will be able to take advantage of its HD video capability in 2 hours instead of six.
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Yeah, well, I don't agree.
I converted 2 720p mkv 90 minute movies and a 40 minute 720p mkv TV show last night and it took 6 hours. This was done on an Intel Core 2 duo P750 2.26GHz
Not everyone has the same hardware. I suppose I could run out and buy an i5 or i7 for the sole purpose of encoding video for the XOOM.
Maybe Motorola can partner with a PC company. How about 20% off a new laptop when you buy a XOOM that way you will be able to take advantage of its HD video capability in 2 hours instead of six.
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It all depends on your settings, and keep in mind that the imac is going to have similar hardware to your machine. The recommendation is to set max width to 1280, set B Frames to 0, turn off CABAC, 8x8 Transform, and Weighted P frames. If you do that, you'll find fairly consistent encoding times even with older hardware. Also, keep in mind that encoding is entirely processor bound and will do better the more cores you can throw at it.
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It all depends on your settings, and keep in mind that the imac is going to have similar hardware to your machine. The recommendation is to set max width to 1280, set B Frames to 0, turn off CABAC, 8x8 Transform, and Weighted P frames. If you do that, you'll find fairly consistent encoding times even with older hardware. Also, keep in mind that encoding is entirely processor bound and will do better the more cores you can throw at it.
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Been there done that. There are no shortcuts. Good quality takes time or more cores. Or harness the GPU ie CUDA but that causes horrendous macroblocking in bright scenes.
No matter how you sugar coat it, re-encoding video is a time consuming pain in the ass for most people.
I also seem to remember there are multiple versions of the imac, with variable hardware specs, from dual core up to quad core 3.6GHz - so your claim of similar hardware seems unlikely.
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>I converted 2 720p mkv 90 minute movies and a 40 minute 720p mkv TV show last night and it took 6 hours.
Suggest using 800 max width for substantially faster encode speed and smaller size. Quality diff is negligible on a 10".
If using 2-pass, switch to 1-pass for both faster encode time AND better quality.
Unfortunately, HB doesn't provide x264's speed presets. You can gain additional speed (at cost of some nominal size increase) with the faster presets. Hmm, I should update my HB script to allow "downloadables" as input.
>The recommendation is to set max width to 1280, set B Frames to 0, turn off CABAC, 8x8 Transform, and Weighted P frames. If you do that, you'll find fairly consistent encoding times even with older hardware.
Encoding to baseline profile (what the above basically means) gains speed by disabling more advanced "compression" features. The trade-off is significant size increase, about +30% vs high profile.
Using a lower res allows more efficient settings. At 800 width, you can use main profile. Speed diff between main & baseline is insignificant. Speed gain for the lower res is substantial.
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I appreciate that your trying to help, but those are the settings that I have been using already: 1280, set B Frames to 0, turn off CABAC, turn off 8x8 Transform, and turn off Weighted P frames....
and it is still taking well over 3 hours to re-encode a 1:30 movie.
I understand that lowering the resolution will decrease the encoding time, but I consider that a last resort compromise. In fact I would consider that basically a failure of the XOOM.
I have considered buying an i5 or i7, but I feel stupid buying a new laptop for the sole purpose of encoding for the XOOM, when I could just pick up my Galaxy Tab and just play these videos immediately. No encoding. Just copy them over and play.
I am quite sure those videos are not high profile. Their bitrates were around 2M, way below 20M.
And, as I said, I can even do soft-decode to play the 480ps which does not play well with hard-decoding.
480ps, man. 480ps. Stunning.
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Your sarcasm needs work. It lacks creativity. And removing the original post is just immature.
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Your sarcasm needs work. It lacks creativity. And removing the original post is just immature.
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I don't really care about the encoding stage, I have an i7-950 which encodes a blu-ray in handbreak in well under an hour.
What I'd like to know, is are the codecs really this lacking, and will we see a solution?
I, like the OP have a HTC Desire and I could be devastated to find the XOOM can't handle the videos my Desire can.
Does it natively support mkv? I like to watch TV episodes in mkv like the 86MB Big Bang Theory episodes.
All my non-TV stuff I rip myself so I'm not concerned. Other than the DRM wmv I buy. Which play back fine on my galaxy tab.
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I don't really care about the encoding stage, I have an i7-950 which encodes a blu-ray in handbreak in well under an hour.
What I'd like to know, is are the codecs really this lacking, and will we see a solution?
I, like the OP have a HTC Desire and I could be devastated to find the XOOM can't handle the videos my Desire can.
Does it natively support mkv? I like to watch TV episodes in mkv like the 86MB Big Bang Theory episodes.
All my non-TV stuff I rip myself so I'm not concerned. Other than the DRM wmv I buy. Which play back fine on my galaxy tab.
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Most TV shows that are 720p mkv, and are privately enoded, and downloaded, average about 1.2 GB and will and not play. Support for MKV as a container isn't a problem, its the profile of the h264 video in the container that is the problem.
If the Video that you like to watch is only 86MB, that doesn't sound like high profile 720p. So it might play, only way to know is to try or download mediaInfo and check its properties.
Good to hear that the i7 that you have can do a blu-ray in an hour. That sounds like what I should do eventually. Wonder if an i5 will do as well. I've heard that the i7, though it has 4 physical cores, is seen as 8 due to multithreading, wheras the i5 is limited to 4.
I watched two re-encoded episodes of fringe last night, and the Video on the XOOM is really amazing. It actually is almost worth the wait.
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Most TV shows that are 720p mkv, and are privately enoded, and downloaded, average about 1.2 GB and will and not play. Support for MKV as a container isn't a problem, its the profile of the h264 video in the container that is the problem.
If the Video that you like to watch is only 86MB, that doesn't sound like high profile 720p. So it might play, only way to know is to try or download mediaInfo and check its properties.
Good to hear that the i7 that you have can do a blu-ray in an hour. That sounds like what I should do eventually. Wonder if an i5 will do as well. I've heard that the i7, though it has 4 physical cores, is seen as 8 due to multithreading, wheras the i5 is limited to 4.
I watched two re-encoded episodes of fringe last night, and the Video on the XOOM is really amazing. It actually is almost worth the wait.
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That's correct, it's an 8 threaded processor, running on an Asus ROG III Gene.
As for the videos I'm watching:
Video
ID/String : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile : [email protected]
Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 4 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=4, N=48
CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String : 20mn 24s
BitRate/String : 465 Kbps
Width/String : 624 pixels
Height/String : 352 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
FrameRate/String : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
ScanType/String : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.088
StreamSize/String : 67.8 MiB (77%)
They're not 720, but they're nice enough on my Galaxy Tab. They are High Profile @ L4.0 though which I'v heard a lot of bad-mouthing about on the forum lately. I'm no expert on media codecs and frankly couldn't care as long as theyre watchable. I'd love to know I could rip my Blu-Rays at 720p and watch them on the XOOM comfortably though.
What you are posting is interesting. Its high profile, but low bit rate. Some of the early claims for the Tegra 2, which is used in the XOOM, said it actually could play high profile but only at a low bit rate, but I haven't heard it confirmed. I suspect this video will not play, but later on I will try encoding a video in a simliar manner to yours and see what happens.
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What you are posting is interesting. Its high profile, but low bit rate. Some of the early claims for the Tegra 2, which is used in the XOOM, said it actually could play high profile but only at a low bit rate, but I haven't heard it confirmed. I suspect this video will not play, but later on I will try encoding a video in a simliar manner to yours and see what happens.
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Great, if you like I can dropbox the file I have and PM you the link for testing. These files playback flawlessly using the Galaxy Tab with every single player software I have tried, whether hardware or software decoding. FOr them not to play on the XOOM would be a killer.
Got your file. Sorry, it plays but with no sound. I tried RockPlayer and Moboplayer and the System Player and all play the same - silent.
The Video is actually pretty good. Smooth and very acceptable. So I guess it can technically play high profile, very low bitrate files - just not with sound. Have to Play around some more and see if I can learn anything else that might get this to play correctly or figure out what the problem is.
Edit: Actually, this is a Divx encoded file, not h264, so that is why it plays. So I am a little surprised about the lack of audio. And its only mp3 audio!!! This is really amazing. I can't believe the XOOM isn't playing this correctly. Has to be a way.
Update: Ok, success! It does play correctly in Rockplayer in software decoding mode. With sound. So it looks like you will have no problem.
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Got your file. Sorry, it plays but with no sound. I tried RockPlayer and Moboplayer and the System Player and all play the same - silent.
The Video is actually pretty good. Smooth and very acceptable. So I guess it can technically play high profile, very low bitrate files - just not with sound. Have to Play around some more and see if I can learn anything else that might get this to play correctly or figure out what the problem is.
Edit: Actually, this is a Divx encoded file, not h264, so that is why it plays. So I am a little surprised about the lack of audio. And its only mp3 audio!!! This is really amazing. I can't believe the XOOM isn't playing this correctly. Has to be a way.
Update: Ok, success! It does play correctly in Rockplayer in software decoding mode. With sound. So it looks like you will have no problem.
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Interesting, if somewhat concerning that it won't play this in the standard players or with hard-decoding even though it uses mp3 audio.
How about VPlayer Advanced? I find this plays most of my videos nicely on the Tab.
Probably just lack of Divx support in hardware. Thats not a big deal, even a single core CPU of lower power can easily decode low res, low bitrate Divx. I don't consider that a flaw at all. Software decoding video like this with the XOOM's dual core A9's is trivial. Results are fine. Just need an app like RockPlayer that does it. XVID files will probably not work in hardware either.
From Motorolas website:
PLAYABLE FORMATS
AAC, H.263, H.264, MP3, MPEG-4, ACC+ Enhanced, OGG, MIDI, AMR NB, AAC+
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Probably just lack of Divx support in hardware. Thats not a big deal, even a single core CPU of lower power can easily decode low res, low bitrate Divx. I don't consider that a flaw at all. Software decoding video like this with the XOOM's dual core A9's is trivial. Results are fine. Just need an app like RockPlayer that does it. XVID files will probably not work in hardware either.
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PLAYABLE FORMATS
AAC, H.263, H.264, MP3, MPEG-4, ACC+ Enhanced, OGG, MIDI, AMR NB, AAC+
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Yeh that's pretty fair I guess. How do you think it would manage if converted to MP4? I can do it on my 950 when I get home and send you it if you like? I'd not mind converting the whole lot if it played in the stock player.
What are the specs of your computers and how long are your average encodes taking ?. I'm looking to buy some new gear soon so I'm just looking to find out how fast the encodes can be.
I have over 100 720p films to convert so its gonna be very time consuming.
they'll probably just work if you use moboplayer
Well. if you have a core i7 then it shouldn't take too long.
I have an i5 750, ati HD5850, and 4GB of RAM. Video encoding is the only thing that maxes out all four cores on my processor, and it takes about one minute per six minutes of video on average using handbrake. However, I don't bother re-encoding videos anymore. I just use plex, but that might not work for your circumstances.
Whatever you do, make sure you encode baseline h264.
Asus P6X58D Premium - Intel Core i7 930 - XFX Radeon 5750 HD Video Card - 12gb DDR3 Corsair XMS3
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Get a quadcore. Otherwise, it doesn't matter all that much. This, from one who has xcoded thousands of movies & movie clips on a bottom-end dual-core.
It matters more how you're encoding, and what software you're encoding with. x264 has different speeds, and unintuitively, 'fast' speeds can get a smaller size than slower ones.
Resolution makes a big diff. Many think 1280x720 is best for tablets. The truth is, there's very little quality difference between 1280 and 800 on a small screen, and the 800 res is about half the size and xcode twice as fast. It also streams much smoother over wifi.
Ignore the peeps who said you have to encode to baseline profile. The 3.1 update apparently can handle high profile now, although it still doesn't have native MKV/AC3/DTS support. I would try high prof first, then main prof.
Lastly, it only takes a long time if you sit and wait for it. I'm doing a 21-CD miniseries to MKV, and before that a 95-eps series. Each job takes me about 10 mins to set up, and some extra for spot checking. Otherwise, just let it run and ignore it.
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Ignore the peeps who said you have to encode to baseline profile. The 3.1 update apparently can handle high profile now, although it still doesn't have native MKV/AC3/DTS support. I would try high prof first, then main prof.
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I know high profile has worked fine for SD content, but are you actually getting smooth playback on high or main profile 720p?
Edit: I just tried a few that I had that happened to be high profile with aac audio, and I'm still getting pretty choppy playback but it IS better than it was in 3.01. I'm still curious to know whether you or others are getting better results here, though.
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What are the specs of your computers and how long are your average encodes taking ?. I'm looking to buy some new gear soon so I'm just looking to find out how fast the encodes can be.
I have over 100 720p films to convert so its gonna be very time consuming.
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I have an Intel i7-2600 with 8GB of RAM and a Intel SSD for my machine, and a 1.33hr 720p rip of Restrepo takes 30mins to encode using the attached Handbreak preset (rename to "xoom 720p.plist" and import). I think I got this from XDA but I can't remember, and it works nicely for HD content.
I also use Moboplayer as it's the only one that seems to work without issue.
I have an i7-950, 12GB DDR3 (XMS3) and GTS450, on an Asus ROG III Gene. Can convert a blueray with handbrake in under 20 minutes and a DVD in under 15. And I always write the output to a different physical hard disk.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
>I'm still curious to know whether you or others are getting better results here, though.
Let's find out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091204
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>I'm still curious to know whether you or others are getting better results here, though.
Let's find out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091204
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Cool, downloading your clips now to see.
Hi guys,i have a weird problem,when i play back 1080 video on my pc its jerky,but all other modes play back smooth any suggestions please ?i have the new camera firmware update,rooted,with latest firmware stock rom.thx
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Hi guys,i have a weird problem,when i play back 1080 video on my pc its jerky,but all other modes play back smooth any suggestions please ?i have the new camera firmware update,rooted,with latest firmware stock rom.thx
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So you recorded 1080p video on your SGS2, and it won't play properly on your PC?
Sounds like your PC is too slow, or it's not hardware decoding. Try Media Player Classic or KMPlayer if you're on Windows.
Ok ill try that.thx
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Even vlc player not working.will try the above suggestion still.
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So you recorded 1080p video on your SGS2, and it won't play properly on your PC?
Sounds like your PC is too slow, or it's not hardware decoding. Try Media Player Classic or KMPlayer if you're on Windows.
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LOL, yeah, this should go in the PC section, not SGSII section.
To OP: Try updating your codecs too, other than that... get a new computer!
I had the same problem with my sony vaio FW31J. Should be good enough to play it, but it was jerky and images stopped sometime.
I have no idea why but it would only do this when my laptop wasn't plugged in.
When I was on battery it had the problem. And no I did not have any energysaving module on.
installed these codecs:
http://www.cccp-project.net/
the right click on file and choose open with, choose media player classic, if this isnt very smooth then get back to us.
What generation of gfx card do you have, gerforce, ati, 5,6,7, 280,460 etc
Google CCCP to get Media player classic (for your PC) and make sure you get DXVA enabled. Every Windows versions has a slightly different setup, and only about 2 year and younger video cards (AMD/Nvidia)can take advantage of DXVA. Can someone say if any integrated Intel video chipsets can do DXVA?
LOL at mobile phone being faster than computer
Lol i actually have an m15x.the computer im using is an old athlon.ill try on my own i think.
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As much as people think it might be a pc issue I experience the same thing on my i5 750 @3.9GHz. Op I think it is due to 1080p video recording not being as many fps and smooth as 720p. I've watched other peoples recorded 1080p as well and it's the sam whn the phone camera is panning. Some people may not notice it as much or choose to ignore it but I just use 720p for now. Maybe with some overclocking it can push out a steady 30 fps 1080p.
What are the specs of your computer? I've played plenty of 1080p videos from my phone on my comp without issue.
Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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P4 2.9GHz is obviously not enough if you can't play it back. I've tried dual Xenon 2.4GHz (about 8 years old) and it had problem playing back 720p content so don't expect your 2.9GHz to play back 1080p. Buy a new graphics card, or a new computer, or don't try to play 1080p content.
It's often not the processor that's the issue. We can see that the SGS2's and Tegra 2 processors are fine, but much slower than an i5.
The problem is often the graphics card. Don't blame the processor or the phone until you're sure you're using your graphics card to render the videos, not the processor! That's what they're for! It also needs to be capable of hardware decoding 1080p.
1080x1920 = ~2 million pixels
720x1280 = ~1 million pixels
1080p has more than double the number of pixels as 720p. It's a big step up!
lets just be clear here, this is NOT a pc spec issue, I can play hd movies on my 6 year old laptop which has a crappy celeron cpu onboard and an ati radeon 7000, this is a codec issue or something to do with the way the video is recorded. I will do some tests on my rig and report back.
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Like mark 2222 says plenty of power its actualy a p4 2.9, with 2gig ram.old but should suffice.720 plays back smooth
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Haha, no way. That is not powerful enough. I had a P4 3.2 and also a graphics card that had hardware acceleration of 1080p wmv files.
When playing back normal 1080p video files (xvid), the framerate was low at about 5 fps. When playing 1080p wmv files, the hardware acceleration from the GPU got it up to the 30 fps rate of the video file.
That's also the reason why the I9100 can play back 1080p with no issues. The Exynos chipset has hardware acceleration of the scaling of 1080p to the screen resolution. Tegra2 on the other hand does not have this, so it struggles with 1080p videos.
That's more than powerful enough. I played back 1080p AVC video perfectly on an old media box running a craptacular P4 @ 2.4GHz or somewhere there.
Your graphics card needs to be able to decode it, also try another decoder/codec pack meant for HD video. CCCP is ok, I swear by CoreAVC. It's not free, but you can find 'free' copies floating around google, try and buy. It's worth it if you're on a crappy computer and don't want to upgrade your hardware.
I've tried playback of 1080p video from the phone and it's fine. Buttery smooth. Most likely a problem with your computer then.
Is the file copied from the phone to the pc or are you trying to run it from the phone attached as mass storage? Could be the usb port being slow to transfer if this is the case. Maybe try downloading a test MP4 from the web and see if it is ok?
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Haha, no way. That is not powerful enough. I had a P4 3.2 and also a graphics card that had hardware acceleration of 1080p wmv files.
When playing back normal 1080p video files (xvid), the framerate was low at about 5 fps. When playing 1080p wmv files, the hardware acceleration from the GPU got it up to the 30 fps rate of the video file.
That's also the reason why the I9100 can play back 1080p with no issues. The Exynos chipset has hardware acceleration of the scaling of 1080p to the screen resolution. Tegra2 on the other hand does not have this, so it struggles with 1080p videos.
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rubbish, a pc of that spec will tear it to bits with the correct codecs, my ageing P4 with onboard intel graphics runs it smooth at work, like i said this is not PC spec issue, I suspect we are not being given all the relevant info here from the OP, we are missing some vital information which will ultimately turn out to be the cause.