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Hello
First sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I'm new to smartphones and Android and have a bit of a dilema!
I have an Xperia X10i and am supposed to be exchanging it for a HTC Desire next week, for reasons I will go into, but my big question first is am I making the right choice.
I got out my X10 yesterday after another delay with getting the HTC and after finding some UI changes and other apps on these awesome forums, I am starting to like the X10 more.
Sure the battery lasts about 9 hours but I'm looking into fixes, other things I didn't enjoy, like the UI I have changed with the awesome ADW Launcher.
Now the main reason I wanted to change the phone was, and this is going to sound really childish and stupid, but was for multitouch, well that and the newer version of android, which I think the X10 will get eventually, however for some reason I feel I need multitouch?
When getting a smartphone I looked forward to playing all my old Snes Roms etc on the way to work on the train, which is nigh on impossible to do properly without multitouch.
I installed the Wiimotion? app to use a Wii mote on my X10 which is awesome but won't help when I'm on the train.
Now I know that's a bit of a frivilous reason but I dunno, seeing all my work colleague pinch and zoom and playing Monkey Island and Conta got me jealous.
I haven't used a Desire but had a quick go of a mates Legend and wasn't blown away or anything. I actually think I prefer the look/style of my X10, but I still like the Desire, I know the camera's better on the X10 but that's pretty much it isn't it?
So there is my question really, should I change my X10 for a Desire, mainly for the updated Android and Multitouch!
I've posted this in X10 and Desire forums, again sorry if thats a no-no.
If you feel that you need multitouch than you should get a device that supports it. The X10 doesn't support multitouch either in software or in hardware.
Android will be updated on the X10 soon, either by SE themselves or the community so that is not a huge issue.
Just a heads up the Desire has the same multitouch problem as the nexus one look it up on youtube if you dont know what i am talking about. hope that helps
Just seen that vid thanks for the heads up
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How about the Samsung Galaxy S? I would pick that over the Desire.
Wow, the multitouch on the N1 is horrendous. :O
I assumed it'd be atleast good considering that it's a google flagship phone.
Cinner said:
How about the Samsung Galaxy S? I would pick that over the Desire.
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Just checked, and I don't think it's available on TMobile, shame it looks a good phone. Thanks anyway
I have an X10 but i think the Desire edges it (for me anyways).
The reason being it's HTC and they have stronger support both from HTC themselves and from the Devs on here on XDA. They have also established themselves as the main player for android devices, and have more experience.
I accepted the intial shortcomings of the X10, with knowledge that the updates would be coming in a timely fashion. This includes both android and performance.
They have not and i'm not just talking about OS.
Basic Telephony - Call Volume
Input- entries not recognised by the digitizer, both keyboard and mediascape.
Functionality -Playlist creation
Sense is in it's 2nd revison and is very stable and I expect to see 2.2 and future versions on that device one way or another. I can't say that with same amount of confidence for the X10.
SE have made a very decent effort with the X10, but their support for the device will be it's downfall.
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Dear Rakber,
If I were you, I would definately go for the desire. My teacher has got a desire and Ive got the X10i but I was blown away when I saw how good the desire is.
Take your chance before its too late!!
regards,
hiraj_panosian
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
OS 1.6 limite the number of colors dispayed (65K on 1.6, X10 can display 16M)
Video record in 720p will be possible on 2.1 too.
With same OS version (2.1) X10 has more advantage than Desire.. beautifull screen, camera (APN) and Video are Likely an Real APN SONY 8.1Mo...perfect colors, defeniton... The camera of Desire is Medium, Poor..
THe X10 is better on 3D, sound of MP3 is perfect !! great bass !
Advantage of Desire, the update is more frequent, and quickly...
As for me, My cousin have the desire, and i a have the X10, i prefert my X10 !!
X10 is recently rooted, then I think some devs will adapte the HTc Software to the X10
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
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I'd love to see where you got that info, because everyone else including Sony Ericsson says that the HW doesn't support multitouch.
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!!!
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Can you provide your se source for this piece of daydreaming information lol
You do know that they have stated the x10 does not and will not support multitouch as it is limited by both hardware and software!
Thol said:
X10 support the multitouch Hardware.... but it is limited by the OS 1.6...
With the update in 2.1, multitouch will be a reality on X10 !!!
OS 1.6 limite the number of colors dispayed (65K on 1.6, X10 can display 16M)
Video record in 720p will be possible on 2.1 too.
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It's this kind of misinformation that led me to believe the X10 would be the better phone in the long run. To fair to Thol even SE support anaylsts were telling me it was a software limitation just days before release.
According to SE it will never support multitouch it's a limitation in both Hardware and software!
As for the 65k colour limitation SE have not been entirely clear on this point especially as the smaller devices ie mini and mini pro have a spec sheet that states the screen is capable of 16 million colours.
Both the mini and mini pro are on 1.6 too. Now if that's true why does Mini on 1.6 support 16m and the x10 on 1.6 support 65k??
Cheers for the replies guys.
Yea I've read conflicting reports on the multitouch being hardware or software limited, and the same with the screen colours, it's bloody annoying!
Another question which Thol made me realise is what's the mp3 player like on the Desire as that's probably the other main thing I use my phone as, it's seems pretty good on the X10, but as long as it sounds good and dosen't pop and crackle?
rakber said:
Yea I've read conflicting reports on the multitouch being hardware or software limited, and the same with the screen colours, it's bloody annoying!
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The thing is, Sony Ericsson themselves have stated and confirmed the hardware does not support multitouch. Please don't listen to these stupid rumors: they come from people who bought the X10 and regret not having multitouch and they want to believe by some miracle the X10 will get multitouch through a software update.
As for the 65k colors: I believe I read this is a hardware limitation as well, but I can't find any sources so maybe someone else can confirm or deny this with a valid source?
ddewbofh said:
If you feel that you need multitouch than you should get a device that supports it. The X10 doesn't support multitouch either in software or in hardware.
Android will be updated on the X10 soon, either by SE themselves or the community so that is not a huge issue.
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From everything I've read the X10 will not support multitouch.
But it will support an equivalent function using one finger that may be superior to multitouch as you can do all the same functions but can do them with one hand. I think we will be getting it with the next major update.
There was an app demonstrating this function but I deleted it and now cannot find it.
And fwiw, I am more and more falling in love with the elegance of the X10 in spite of some bugs and limitations.
koyanishi said:
From everything I've read the X10 will not support multitouch.
But it will support an equivalent function using one finger that may be superior to multitouch as you can do all the same functions but can do them with one hand. I think we will be getting it with the next major update.
There was an app demonstrating this function but I deleted it and now cannot find it.
And fwiw, I am more and more falling in love with the elegance of the X10 in spite of its many bugs and limitations.
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I've just found a vid on youtube with the zoom slide function, I think it's the same one you mean, it looks good but it wouldn't help me with the game side of multitouch I think, which is the main reason I'd want it sorry,
Cheers though.
MarylandCookie said:
Can you provide your se source for this piece of daydreaming information lol
You do know that they have stated the x10 does not and will not support multitouch as it is limited by both hardware and software!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-2964.php
Dispay type : TFT Capacitive = Multitouch (normaly)
Sorry, X10 is not Multitouch:
"Despite the capacitive technology, the X10 display won't be getting multi-touch support even with the latest OS."
>I realy think it can be multitouch, Sony have afraid about Apple's lawers... Htc Not !
Hosnestly, i had a iPhone 3G, i'd never use the Multitouch function... perhaps only on a game : air Hokey with my son (multi players)
But it is really 16M color :
"Sony Ericsson have also promised that Android 2.1 will at some point be available for the XPERIA X10 enabling the full use of the 16M color-ready display."
For a serious test :
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10-review-463.php
For MP3 player, the X10 Player is more pretty, but too limited fuctions (no remote supported), I use MixZing (free, but with ads), it support this function (remote).
SE promise a update of the player (media scape) some time after the OS update...
Htc's devices are better for their software...But as i said, some devs will adapts these software on X10 too...
rakber said:
I've just found a vid on youtube with the zoom slide function, I think it's the same one you mean, it looks good but it wouldn't help me with the game side of multitouch I think, which is the main reason I'd want it sorry,
Cheers though.
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No reason to be sorry at all.
I just hope you enjoy whatever you get as much as I do the X10
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I'd love to see where you got that info, because everyone else including Sony Ericsson says that the HW doesn't support multitouch.
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they said that about x10 mini also but they find a multitouch digitizer in it so don't believe sony as it is god
The title says it all
Which should I choose?
I prefer the wildfire but some people say the p500 is better :/
I actually hate my wildfire, waste of money imo.
*Sent from XDA on my Wildfire*
So which one do you think I should go for?
Wildfire is nice looking small phone.
But:
-screen with 320X240 pixels is really ugly (you can see pixels)
-there is no GPU, so you can't play games
-CPU is to slow for movies, you can't play movies
jee. why do you even ask this
wildfire < x8 < optimus one
when u buy a htc, you pay for the name, not quality. optimus one is beter than wildfire in... well pretty much everything.
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jee. why do you even ask this
wildfire < x8 < optimus one
when u buy a htc, you pay for the name, not quality. optimus one is beter than wildfire in... well pretty much everything.
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When you say quality, what do you mean? Built quality? Wildfire`s build quality is excellent. Customer support? Hell some Sony android phones are still on 1.6.
Personally, I would go for the P500 but, it has only a 3mpx camera with no flash (important for me), cheap plastic case (solid, but cheap) and also I heard bad things about LG phones.
Yeah, it has a HVGA screen, 600MHZ processor and Divx certification, but personally, I did not feel the need to watch movies or videos on my phone (Wildfire or any other phone I`ve ever had).
Like I said, now I think the Wildfire is a great phone, but if the P500 had been available at the time I bought the HTC, I probably would have gone for the LG (although I`m not that sure).
1. yes you can play games, but not all as some will run slowly.
2. wtf play movies slowly? i can play movies fine, i was watching episodes of futurama without any lag or anything for example.
Thanks for the suggestions guys
The only thing stopping me from getting the p500 is that some users report high cpu consumption on touching the screen?
Is this true? Is there a fix for it?
p500 cant be even compared with low end phones like wildfire and x8
I was reading online [ http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2 ] where it was reported that an Xperia Play 2 might be in the works to compete with the iPhone 5. I know that's not true because the Xperia Play is very new.
What I found interesting about this was a comment left on the story. This in particular caught my attention:
1 - Quote from original article, "Still, with the impending launch of the iPhone 5, some have wondered when Sony Ericsson will launch an Xperia Play 2. "
2 - The comment on the quote, "Surely nobody would put those two in the same sentence? "
My initial thought was that the person who wrote that was just making an ignorant statement, then I thought maybe I'm the one who's ignorant.
So could you guys tell me what the iPhone, [latest version of IOS] can do, that the Xperia Play, [latest version of Android] can't do ?
I for one have used the iPhone [3G,] though I don't own one, I do however own an iPod Touch 2G, and there is no way I would choose ANY version of iPhone [IOS] to the latest Sony Android phones, with most of my feelings being based on the performance of my Xperia Play.
So once again I ask, please share your view.
The ONLY advantage that iOS devices have over the Play right now is the fact that there is just WAY more games out and therefore more variety. the iPhone 4 does not have any more horsepower than the Play, however the 5 will likely... Doesn't necessarily mean the games will take advantage of it or what.
That said, touch gaming sucks balls, so the graphics could be better, and playing them would still suck.
"touch gaming sucks balls, " I agree 100 percent with that.
I honestly thought there was something I was missing, cause the person said, "Surely no-one would put those two in the same sentence," I would put those two in the same sentence, infact I would say the Xperia Play [with or without gamepad] offers a similar, if not better, experience than a jailbroken iPhone/iPod Touch 4g.
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I was reading online [ http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2 ] where it was reported that an Xperia Play 2 might be in the works to compete with the iPhone 5. I know that's not true because the Xperia Play is very new.
What I found interesting about this was a comment left on the story. This in particular caught my attention:
1 - Quote from original article, "Still, with the impending launch of the iPhone 5, some have wondered when Sony Ericsson will launch an Xperia Play 2. "
2 - The comment on the quote, "Surely nobody would put those two in the same sentence? "
My initial thought was that the person who wrote that was just making an ignorant statement, then I thought maybe I'm the one who's ignorant.
So could you guys tell me what the iPhone, [latest version of IOS] can do that the Xperia Play, [latest version of Android] can't do ?
I for one have used the iPhone [3G,] though I don't own one, I do however own an iPod Touch 2G, and there is no way I would choose ANY version of iPhone [IOS] to the latest Sony Android phones, with most of my feelings being based on the performance of my Xperia Play.
So once again I ask, please share your view.
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If I was given a choice of either an iPhone 5 or an xPlay 2, my money would go to Sony. Hands down.
Even now, the iPhone 4 is a joke compared to an xPlay.
What good are games on the iphone if they are not playable? I think every console game from atari to the psone should be counted on the xperia plays game list.
I am sure the iphone 5 will out perform xperia play when it comes to playing the latest version of angry birds
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I'll pass on angry birds, I would actually like to see a good RPG on the Xperia Play. Eternal Legacy was a step in the right direction, but still not up to par.
I never had an iphone but i recommend them to every girl thats asks me what phone to buy
Yea it shouldn't be in the same sentence... Why are we comparing the play masterpiece to a phone with all sorts of restrictions. Doesn't matter what game they get, no control pad = not real gaming.
The only advantage an iphone has working for them is that it does look attractive. It's more of a fashion accessory as 90percent of iphone users only use it to text talk and browse...
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Try dungeon hunter 2.
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End of the day, you ask anyone here how satisfied they are with there xperia play. I bet you 95%+ would be more than satisfied. Now go to an Iphone forum and ask the same question about the Iphone 4.
Btw here is a better comparison, not by a website trying to brown nose apple in the hope of future advertising revinue
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38551/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-vs-iphone-4
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Even now, the iPhone 4 is a joke compared to an xPlay.
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This! I actually sold my iphone 4 to get the Xperia Play, the Play is also a lot more powerful than the iphone 4 (cpu and gpu).
The iphone 4 screen is tiny compared to the Plays! what good is the retina display if the screen is so small?!
And don't forget all the other superior features on the Play compared to iphone 4:
Gamepad, Android --> iOS, xLoud stereo speakers, overclocking, custom roms and kernals, unlimited customization, widgets, fantastic emulation, ps one games, ps suite in the near future, list goes on and on and on!
iPhone 5 features
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg
LMAO..
Seriously, If you're on gaming, no need to compare the iPhone 4 to our SEXplay..
There's a lot of game that I can't finish on 3gs using the onscreen controls (e.g. Assassin's Creed) been playing that for months but still I can't finish it..
Then I played it on our phone, and finished it for about a week (1-2hrs of playing everyday) thanks to dedicated gamepad of SEXplay..
pfft! I can't believe people still like the iphone with all the way better android phones out there, plus some dummy lost a prototype iphone5 in a the bar somewhere in San Francisco!
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subcu1ture said:
I am sure the iphone 5 will out perform xperia play when it comes to playing the latest version of angry birds
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Lmao
Regards Dousan...
sdlaurin said:
I never had an iphone but i recommend them to every girl thats asks me what phone to buy
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If I were you I'd recommend the Xperia Ray once it's out. It's a brilliant girly phone... same supercamera and resolution as the other Xperias, but in an aluminium body and a screen of 3.3 inches. I'm a guy, but still... DO WANT
The only advantage an iphone has working for them is that it does look attractive. It's more of a fashion accessory as 90percent of iphone users only use it to text talk and browse...
Too true and maybe browsing is the lesser used
From my experience with friends and workmates you forgot one of the most important apps ever , Facebook lol
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iPhone 5 features
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg
LMAO..
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That dude will be SO disappointed when it actually comes out, lol.
Gaming on touch screen Android phones is a mess in general. Trying to play a fighting game on my 4th Gen iPod Touch was a mess even considering how hard Capcom tried to make it work. A lot of games look absolutely brilliant (especially on the Retina Display), but the quality of the game or the control mechanics usually doesn't match.
Touch screen can make strategy title's better than any button setup, but it's simply too lackluster in accuracy, precision and responsiveness for any genre that involves real-time action... and you can tell devs know this too because they have to load the games with extreme assistance, auto-aim and the like.
Xperia PLAY ends takes mobile smartphone gaming out of the ghetto... the awesome thing is that it also performs above average in all those non-game areas too... so yeah... I probably won't be upgrading to another phone for a REALLY long time.
In my opinion, for gamers (male n female gender):
Xperia Play for male
Iphone for female
Who knows in the future, both of 'em get married and we'll have APPLE SON? SON APPLE? LOL
Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
eris94 said:
Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
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In my opinion I would just dish out the money for an Xperia s. Just root it and connect it with a dualshock controller.
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'Good' Phone
Imo the only good thing about the xperia play is the controls, the fact that is 'old' in specs you could buy something better, further support to the ps suite doesnt look better either (moving to ICS looks good but it will have ups and downs), still is a good phone but consider a second choice.
To be honest, no.
Unless you REALLY dont want to spend the extra cash for a way better phone, get this.
In comparison, its like buying a Nexus One in this day and age.
No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
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No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
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Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=3608
Most of the games you can get on the play you can play on any other android device. If you want the play as a solid gaming device, you're better off with the vita.If you want the play for its physical controls on the move go for it. Specs wise it sucks and is bulky compared to the newer options which as mentioned are more expensive.
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
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Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=3608
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I read Adreno 220 the first time. Sorry. But even then I think a dual core phone with more ram would be better. Dual core just increases performance so much.
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TLRtheory said:
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
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Just because one game is optimized to run better on an older phone, that doesn't mean that there's, "No reason for all that". The performance in everything else is a lot better with those phones. The only thing that I will miss about the Xperia play when I get my next phone is the gamepad.
If you enjoy casual gaming in any way, as well as emulating the old classics, this is the phone for you. If just you like having a phone that works really well, this is still the phone to get. It runs great as a phone and you have the option to use the physical buttons to play games on it. I don't understand how anyone wouldn't want that. Then again, I'm a gamer to the core, so my judgement is lopsided hah.
If you're looking for a powerful beast, the Play isn't there any longer. But the Play is future proof because in 5 years, the Play will keep being at least a portable emulator which can handle anything below N64 with nice controls.
XPlay-Swype
I just picked one up for 90$ on eBay and am really liking it other than the fact that it seems to have a weak signal compared to my iPhone 4 and drops 3g quite frequently on Verizon. I'm beating all the gba castlevania games at the moment and some Zelda ocarina of time. Any good suggestions?
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Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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At this point, I think I'll be getting the First Gen Play because I highly doubt that Sony will come out with a new Play within the next 12 days
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Great 2nd phone
I am a proud owner of a Samsung Galaxy Note, huge AMOLED HD screen, powerful dual core yada yada yada.. I was looking to buy a PS Vita, I mean the Galaxy Note plays games extremely well but there's no getting away from a dedicated hardware game pad being ultimately better for portable gaming.. But Sony are asking too much for compulsory memory cards and the game titles are truly wallet rinsing.
In comes the next best thing the Xperia Play and nicely doubles as a second phone. (I am still scared of showing the Note too much - in public, always a risk of having it snatched!) So today I ordered the Xperia Play for a very reasonable £170 and I think will satisfy me for a while
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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IIRC Sony has basically said NO so far on an XPlay 2 of any sort. As far as is known its not in development at all, so it could be a looooong wait.
IrishStuff09 said:
Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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I upgraded from X8 to Play, I wasn't expecting it but I found it for a very cheap 150€.
I'm very happy with it, it's a big evolution, specially the screen size. I thought the fisical controls wouldn't be very important to me since I never played very much on my X8, but it does make a difference, it's simply great.
My thoughts for you are: if your looking for a nice performance, great gamming, nice screen size (not the best luminosity out doors, but it works) and amazing sound (the best I heard on a smartphone) and you have low budget like I did, go for this. If you want a powerful phone with the most amazing screen, you use your camera a lot, a phone with better functionality to compete with the current beasts in the market, I'd buy an Xperia S (too bad I had no money for it) or Xperia P
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
sufy1000 said:
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
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Indeed same for me - I bought the play about a month ago - specs are still enugh for me - and as i dont own a psp,.. neither my old beloved gameboy - I LOVE IT
But if u dont wan to carry around several devices - and are not one of those I NEED THE BIGGEST FASTEST AND HIGHEST guys - GET IT
Best allround handy for me - if u love console games
Hardware not too old - and nice and fluid - just a bit heavy
Btw - bought mine for 250€ - there are not many other similar hardware "speced" ( does it exist ) handys at that price anyway....
xp2 is on hold.
i'd better go with the new HTC one as a base, because of the stereo front speakers and the better hardware
This sounds like a really cool & Fun thing to do, but even if anything were to go ahead and happen sony would shut it down as "Xperia Play Gamepad - Slideout" is patented...
So their would have to be some other mechanic other than a slide out!
But if this really happens, We would all be the ones LAUGHING in Sonys Face about THE COMMUNITY Creating a V2 of their successor!, They dont want to make a v2 because of the "PS Vita" Sales, I mean that thing was TERRIBLE!
So if this does conntinue on, im glad to contribute on the software side!,
but using galaxy s3 as base means that he cant do it
he should use xperia z as base so he can port sony framework to it and get all xperia play games work on that with jb
Beat me too it.
I was also beginning to do research of my own to begin on my own build (I was waiting till It was finished to post) also I agree with pedyvirus that the xperia z would be a better base.
QUESTIONS?
What specs are you hoping to have? (minimum)
What major changes are you hoping to integrate into your xperia?
Lastly wouldn't the slide out keyboard be fine as long as you don't try to make money off of it?
GOOD LUCK AND PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED
You could even try and make a phone case which could also be a gamepad
Just an idea
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ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
You could even try and make a phone case which could also be a gamepad
Just an idea
Personally I like the gamepad being part of the phone this way there are no connection errors, no need for Bluetooth, or compatibility issues. That's what makes the xperia play so amazing, its there when you need it with no hassle. If we were to have a gamepad case we would just be another smartphone.
ALTHOUGH if you are interested in game cases the best I've seen at the moment is Bladepad. It is only for iphone at the moment but it will be coming to android by the end of this year or beginning of next. Just go to Bladepad.com to check it out.
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just look at my signature ...
i'll by your xperia play 2
Wow this is amazing. Maybe tegra 4 base and massive amount of ram. 5inches or more display. For controls if slide out is patended use on side (psp like) and clampshell (3ds like).
Im considering getting nvdia shield once released, but with this, with phone function i think this will be much better.
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Hi guys,
an update:
looks like there is only one guy who is interested in making this device a reality. I won't say, but he's "pretty" well known in the mod scene.
I am still looking for people who are good at electronics
If you feel you have the talent, email me and I will support you
I'll definitely buy an Xperia Play successor, but I'm not that good in micro-scale Electronics. I really hope the best for this project.
I do hope for the best of this project. My suggestions are for the minimum spec it can run PSP games smoothly on PPSSPP. Has its own Game Keyboard, but still affordable
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Various For said:
I'll definitely buy an Xperia Play successor, but I'm not that good in micro-scale Electronics. I really hope the best for this project.
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Unless he obtains the rights to use the hardware and goes through all the other legal issues, I dont see this available for sale. Maybe donate 'x amount' and receive a free phone but still, the undertaking of this project is likely the most ambitious on all of xda. I wish him luck but I won't be holding my breath.
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korrectmethod said:
Unless he obtains the rights to use the hardware and goes through all the other legal issues, I dont see this available for sale. Maybe donate 'x amount' and receive a free phone but still, the undertaking of this project is likely the most ambitious on all of xda. I wish him luck but I won't be holding my breath.
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I'm still breathing, bit I love to dream too!
I really like Thea idea of this.
I think the specs shouldn't be too
powerful(snapdragon 800 etc ).
They minimum I'd like to see is dual core clocked at 1.5hgz
I don't know why but I prefer dual then quad core and gpu of
Snapdragon 300.
But I don't really know alot on develoing phones but I would love
get my hands on xperia play 2 even if it had a dear price
I'd buy it
13mp camera 1080p
vita analogs
Nice clicky buttons like the old play maybe two separate pads that slide out to the side?
Exmor r
Bravia
1.7Ghz
Kickass snapdragon
2gb ram
To some up make it a ridiculously kickass phone.
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You could always ask Ben heck if he would give it a go hes already made some pretty awsome things haha
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insane5125 said:
ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
You could even try and make a phone case which could also be a gamepad
Just an idea
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Personally I like the gamepad being part of the phone this way there are no connection errors, no need for Bluetooth, or compatibility issues. That's what makes the xperia play so amazing, its there when you need it with no hassle. If we were to have a gamepad case we would just be another smartphone.
ALTHOUGH if you are interested in game cases the best I've seen at the moment is Bladepad. It is only for iphone at the moment but it will be coming to android by the end of this year or beginning of next. Just go to Bladepad.com to check it out.
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is there actually an android version of the bladepad? cuz it is exactly what i had in mind 1 or 2 years ago when i saw the play the very first time and immediately knew the pad had to be portable over to another device as the hardware evolves faster than a successor would be created.
Flaîm said:
is there actually an android version of the bladepad? cuz it is exactly what i had in mind 1 or 2 years ago when i saw the play the very first time and immediately knew the pad had to be portable over to another device as the hardware evolves faster than a successor would be created.
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Not yet there should be one by the end of the year though but the problem is there's so many android devices it would be hard to support so they're probably only going to support certain popular phones or else theyll make a general one for certain sizes that clips on the back
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Questions for everyone.
Just for fun lets have hear some opinions on xperia play 2.
Q#1
What are your 3 must haves for an xperia play 2?
Mine are #1 Physical analog sticks. I don't care if they are psp nubs, ps vita type analog, or real playstation analog sticks.
#2 Awesome sound quality (loud and clear) xperia play did this great and I hope they continue with this.
#3 An amazing screen I'm talking about HD to the extreme with the quality of games being so high now we need something to back that up.
Q#2
What design would you like Clamshell, slider, or candybar.
I would prefer a clamshell design with 2 screens one on the inside and one on the outside. This to me would be the best way to incorporate the analog sticks and massive speakers. also it would cool if it paused what you were doing on your first screen so when you were done gaming you can go back to what you were doing as soon as you close it. I like the xperia for the fact that you can hide the controls and hopefully the xperia play 2 will also have this business on the outside gaming on the inside.
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lastly, this is random but what color/material would you like?
If it was a color option it would be red all the way.
But if there was an metal one like the htc one that would be so awesome