Hello to everybody, Acer S200 users, how could you understand our device is now obsolete (we are now in Legay devices,too) and our cookers seems to have stopped cooking, in practice is all stopped.
Now: there are 2 thinghs: sell our devices to buy a new one or know that your phone will no longer receive updates in future.
So, I propose to unite our forces ( and minds) and build an open source rom, where everybody can do all that he want with his own rom, but to achieve this we need a lot of collaboration...
WHO IS WITH ME ???
To be honest. i dont feel the need to get further updates... brainmasters clean rom with srs wow hd registry tweaks, tweaked version of mobile shell, igo primo etc etc.
Our roms are stable and we have the options to have several ui s even sense... so im fine I own my Neotouch since one year now and im still contended, i'll keep it as long as it runs
Windows mobile in general is dead, which is a pity, as it is still a mighty os and im actually wondering what you try to improve due to further roms, with brainmasters roms or arto's roms we can call our neotouch maxed out
P.S. and ill stick with WM as long as other OS wont offer any comparable gps programs like IGO for windows mobile...
The Rom are already there, but in my opinion should be developed Android
Maybe you haven't understand the levels that I want to reach... I can only tell you that with some benchmark I found original rom about 30 % faster than cooked one and this is anomalus because cooked rom normally are even better than official ones...
euplio said:
Hello to everybody, Acer S200 users, how could you understand our device is now obsolete (we are now in Legay devices,too) and our cookers seems to have stopped cooking, in practice is all stopped.
Now: there are 2 thinghs: sell our devices to buy a new one or know that your phone will no longer receive updates in future.
So, I propose to unite our forces ( and minds) and build an open source rom, where everybody can do all that he want with his own rom, but to achieve this we need a lot of collaboration...
WHO IS WITH ME ???
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Hi Euplio, Stefano has already released the Kitchen for Acer S200. I have downloaded it and customized it for all of my ROM's. Why don't you do it also?
Everything you need is on this forum - Stefano's Kitchen, newest SYS Builds, OEM Packages, Manila Packages. You just need to invest time, find and put everything together.
You had a plenty of time to do that since you also cook your own ROM's.
So, why don't you start, and the people will support you.
If you only ASK and don't DO anything, then you will ACHIEVE NOTHING.
If you need some help, I can always look into Forum to help you.
hmmm
maybe we can collect all sorts of packages (exts) and make a repository of packages for cooking. as far as i am concerned, the chefs here have done the best possible. i have cooked roms from arto, kubino and brains roms on all 3 of my s200.
So c'mon I'gonna start making ultra-light rom good base for spb mobile + "DROID PRO+ 2.2 by DOC3000 & MSKIP" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833941 because I find it the best alternative to the htc sense, what do you think?
Hi guys my ultra-light rom is now finished, I need beta testers...
Where is the thread with this rom???? is it in Italian ????
Post more information...
iacopocantoni said:
Where is the thread with this rom???? is it in Italian ????
Post more information...
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It is the lighter rom I ever seen on our device since now, but for now is beta, so I need private beta-testers, if do you want to try it I can send you via p.m. (private message) the link. Yes, it is italian
yes, i'm interested to test your ROM but I don't know what I have to do exactly...
I'm interested to test your ROM.I was a beta testers of the 3.5 rom Stefano.
Bye
Related
Not sure if this is worth sharing, but I thought I would pass it along in case someone could do something useful with it.
http://www.xbeta.cn/thread-7612-1-1.html
anyone translate?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ad-7612-1-1.html&langpair=zh|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8
it is a lil old
Sofa.
Bridge quick release you.
Links
Auto translation with Chinese:
CHT9000 (HTC Hermes 200) world premiere 19,195 template (6.1 kernel) (available for download) ~ (plus Bluetooth patch, ring tones patch)
Version: 5.2.19195 (internal version 19195.1.0.0)
See everyone obsessed leave the core, the HEX??also play some version of, Oh, 19195, the version is false, but this is the real core 6.1 (AKU 1.0.0).
Links:
OEM
ftp://guest:[email protected]/ROM/19195_bingo123/OEM_19195_0123.rar
SYS
ftp://guest:[email protected]/ROM/19195_bingo123/SYS_19195_0123.rar
ROM
ftp://guest:[email protected]/ROM/19195_bingo123/ROM_19195_0123.rar
All:
ftp://xbeta:[email protected]/9000rom/ROM_19195_0123.rar
owlrayyt!! that's good news.. better Start Porting and Cooking!! hope Wizard roms soon have this kernel.. actually, i'm still stuck on the first encarnation of the Touch-Ported rom (my ROM is about 5 months old now).. and i'm eagerly waiting for the WM6.1 roms before i flash again..
so please.. someone port..
thanks..
i would love to see a port to the touch vouge
has anyone reposted to rapidshare? These links are terribly slow
Edit: (at least where I'm trying to access them anyway )
So this is a completely compiled rom for HTC Hermes?
Moths ago I heard that it should be possible to exchange some files in WM to switch to another language, just like it can be done on vista with language packs. Is that true? Would be awsome to check out WM6.1 right now
Rongara said:
So this is a completely compiled rom for HTC Hermes?
Moths ago I heard that it should be possible to exchange some files in WM to switch to another language, just like it can be done on vista with language packs. Is that true? Would be awsome to check out WM6.1 right now
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since i don't have a hermes, can anyone confirm this is real 6.1 before i spend the time to port it? theres been alot of false positives....
ndn715 said:
since i don't have a hermes, can anyone confirm this is real 6.1 before i spend the time to port it? theres been alot of false positives....
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not just for hermes.. it's now also available for Prophet.. and it's HOMEBREW! now who has any more doubt?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
schap hermes rom is out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363782
so hopefully we will get the cooked cab of the new things inside wm6.1 soon like sms, getting started etc
cruzzmz said:
so hopefully we will get the cooked cab of the new things inside wm6.1 soon like sms, getting started etc
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Waiting for that too
can anyone tell me if this can be flashed on htc gene... i have wm6 rom by mun_rus.. see my signature.. but if this rom can be used on gene then i can learn to cook and dev touch rom for our gene based on this rom
I'm looking for clean WM 6.1 ROM - i.e. no 3-rd party applications included - just as it is being shipped.
I want to customize it myself.
Hi osavioro,
I am working in a clean rom WM6.1, however it is half difficult to obtain aid this way…. it would be made use to cooperate?
I am constructing one based in the ROM of the SDK of the MS…
I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.
yeah me too
pdaviet.net
cecrops said:
pdaviet.net
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i wish i can read vietnamese
me too
LastMile said:
I'd love a clean install as well. I appreciate all the work the cookers do, but every 6.1 ROM has something I'd like to remove but can't. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to cook a vanilla ROM for myself.
I just use my Trinity for calender, contacts, phone and GPS navigation.
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me too You can count me in guys. I would like to help to produce a clean 6.1. I already have some attempts on 19206 and 19701 builds.
This is my current rom and I like it a lot is pretty clean and stable,I don't lose my email, wifi settings.....give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364972
I would help ... but unfortunately I do not understand a bit about cooking ROMs.
Even more unforunately is that I don't have any spare time for learning, although it is quite interesting.
I am working to only create a clean ROM - WM6.1 with drivers for the P3600. Already I tried to get aid through the forum however I was not answered. I am using my PDA for the tests. As soon as possible I will be publishing a ROM Beta for tests. If possible, still it would like aid in this process.
To generate the ROM I tried to disassemble some ROMs of the forum to understand, however its creators had placed some protections, thing that I find that he goes against the principles of the cooperation.
I placed some topics questioning on what I would have to make and was not taken care of. For the S200 I found a ROM clean (Korand 3,1 - thanks!!! ) how I could work and transform into what I wanted, already for the P3600 is difficult, the people they do not want to help nobody, they only want that I make a donation!
I understand "hard work" that it is to generate a ROM, but I find that the knowledge the respect could be shared.
Thanks for all!
Dear all,
as I wrote on this other post (excuse me for crossposting - please mods to close the wrong-placed one):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=384850
there are two guys that recompiled Android for ARMv4 processor - like ARM920T, the trinity processor!!
Here you have the links:
http://benno.id.au/blog/
http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-freerunnder-updates.html
They are working on the Freerunner and Neo1973 devices.. but the processor is the same..
Anyone out there wants Android on our beloved trinity?
At the moment I have no spare time (and skills) to take the challenge.. but I hope that someone will do.
I think that with the source code the CLZ and Thumb mode issues are completely addressed.
Anyone could confirm this to me?
Best regards,
s
Hi,
i'm also interested to see android on my htc hermes. i'm waiting benos new blog entries to see if he was able to run the code on "Neo1973".
What is the diference between htc hermes and htc dream (g1) regarding other chips beside the prcessor?
i don't think that drivers included in android can cover all chips in hermes. can someone maybe make an list of same and different devices(chips) in this 2 devices?
thanks
G phone?
So this is the same OS that the G phone is sporting yeah?
If The flashing process isn't harder than the current process then I'd be up for this. Also will it brick the phone?
Need some people to test.
Great Topic!
More information about this here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1368755|a1368755
http://review.source.android.com/user/sean,,mcneil.com
Since the openmoko is very like the p3600 I will give these patches a try. Let you know!
That would be awesome !
Please tel us your progression.
I'm waiting for a Android ROM for my Trinity ^_^
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
Hi piethein,
This will replace the rom we have installed in the trinity or is like an emulator running under wm ?
We dont loss any wm rom that we have installed ?
Dear all,
here you have some (bad) news:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/906dcae21176d4e9#
at the link above you will find a thread I started in adroid-porting developers group.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/0b3743f8151783f6#
at this link there are other infos, but let me report two msgs:
shaice:
Dear all,
sorry to bother you with (probably) silly questions but..
I own a HTC trinity that use the same ARM920T processor of Freerunner.
I saw benno's and christopher's posts on their blogs...
Is there any chance that your binaries will run on other ARM920T
phones?
Thank you in advance for any answer.
Best regards,
s
Christopher Friedt:
Hi Shaice,
In short, no (for now...)
Chris
sigh sob!
Now I'm searching for some fresh news.
Stay tuned!
s
uhmm reading somewhere in the group I found this post:
Jean-Baptiste Queru
3 Nov, 01:14
The shipping G1s have 192MB. Earlier development devices had 128MB,
and that wasn't quite enough to smoothly run the applications that
ship with the G1. Even if all the device's RAM could be allocated to
Android (no baseband, no framebuffer) 64MB would probably be very
tight, to the point where even foreground applications would risk
getting killed because of low memory conditions (the browser
especially comes to mind). In 32MB the system is likely to be
thrashing for memory even before it's done starting the system server
(if it can even start it at all).
JBQ
Mmmmh no good news for us.. :-/
s
Hi there,
basically these are great news!!!
piethein said:
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
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....but forget about running exactly these images on your trinity units.
It won't work
I don't want to digg your hope but there's a lot to do to make it real.
First:
You'll need a kernel that suits to trinity and offer some features the android OS needs.
Second:
You'll have to modify the image in jffs2 format to get loaded on trinity or build up a tricky environment to mount these image files after booting the kernel.
Have fun!
scholbert
Android on Trinity wanted!!
now that the full Android code is out it's possible!!
we can have Android on Trinity!!
please help... I cannot stand anymore WM!!
IMHO there is no enough memory to run smoothly android on trinity...
but stay tuned..
s
Dear all,
there is no hope for trinity users like us to see android running on our wonderful device.
As stated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/788c201e75ca7351
Android don't run on the ARM920T used in Neo1973.
In the following site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores there is a table
where are described all the ARM cpu.
Android framework is compiled for the ARMv5 architecture version, so run on
the all the processors that belong to this architecture version and also in
some cpu of the new architecture (ARMv6/v7).
Other information can be found on this site
http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP#Real_hardware.
Best Regards,
Andrea Bernardi
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:-(
bye all
s
ehm...
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
didoop said:
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
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a new step per day, some time good new, other time bad news..... lets get hope that android will run on trinity...
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks
If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.
Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.
Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
Fish-Man said:
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
pkoper said:
Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957
for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.
Hi all.
I'm creating a Windows Mobile Rom.
1)---I want to create a rom modifying my smartphone's rom and NOT creating a rom from a clean one (it will be almost impossibile).
2)---Which kitchen can i use?
3)---Where can I download the latest Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds? (Da-G's download don't work anymore on Mediafire)
Thanks
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
tobbbie said:
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
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Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
Mich-C said:
Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
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Oh well - you are much on your own with this old stuff now. Usually you cannot do much to the XIP (Kernel) parts as they are largely HW dependent. SYS is part of the ROM anyway and so part of regular cooking. Lookup the forums for your device and download what you can get. If it is an exotic device your chances are ~zero to get anything useful. If you have no experience in cooking it is a very long way to succeed (talking in weeks and months of learning!) - and there no others fighting the same problems any more. Look up the introduction link from my signature to get an idea of how things are connected.
What is your starting point (HW, ROM) and where do want to go?
TOBBIE, in practice I want to use Os Kitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948) because it's very simple to use.(I can alredy use it).
I downloaded but when I open it, I have the first screen (that showed in the thread). Is written: "....please, select an official rom update file..." It refers to an update Windows Mobile Build for cook the Rom.
So I searched Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds. I found 2 very good Builds from Da_G :
-6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547314
-6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
But ALL Links don't work and I ABSOLUTELY need this Build, without it, I can't cook...
Sorry, I have no experience with OS Kitchen. I have only used OS Builder finally and a very old device specific batch-kitchen before this.
Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
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Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
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Well first you need to split smartphone (no touchscreen) from touchscreen devices.
I have cooked only for smartphone -> see my signature kitchen and stuff is all there.
Then find a stock ROM for the right type (smartphone or touchscreen) with largely similar properties (screen resolution, maybe also CPU/Chipset).
Can't you tell which device you want to cook for?
I want to cook for my Toshiba Portege G910 with WinMob 6 Professional.
It's touchscreen, it has Qwerty Keyboard, it has Wvga Resolution 800x480. There is not even a rom for this device.
But I want to cook in Italian language, (I'm italian )
This will be tough I guess. Mind that a new ROM will not change the kernel, so any of the new memory schemes introduced with W6.1 and WM6.5 will not apply even if you put a new OS on top of it. So basically you will not gain speed with a new ROM. Adding a language is a tricky thing but is possible, see my signature, even without cooking an all new ROM. So is there no Italian on the device at all?
Oh, I'm sad for this: no extra speed
When I bought, my phone had italian language.
The Toshiba Portege G900 is very very similar to my G910. Also the G900 has WinMob 6.0 Pro.
An Italian guy made a Winmo 6.1 rom for the G900 (in italian language), and now the G900 is very very fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4h23pR6JbI
I want to this with my G910, IT'S possible. Salvyc83 do this
(But now he can't help me)
Search for speed tweaks on WM6 if you are happy with the device otherwise. The effort to cook a well running 6.1 is enormous and it is not guaranteed if you get it faster on the UI then.
There are various registry settings to play with which can make the UI faster responding (cache for icons or fonts).
Good luck!
I need too to learn cooking roms. I will follow this thread.