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Hi! On another forum I was told, that the Touch HD has the LED for signaling missed calls/sms/e-mail etc. built into the power button. Does somebody have any pictures or a video of this in action? Just curious how this looks. Thanks!
Hi all,
I too would like to know this... and I also noticed that www.gsmarena.com says it has video out functionality???? But this feature is not listed on htc.com
Did anyone hear anything about this???
The guy of the frensh video on youtube was live on yahoo a few days after the release of the video.
While he was showing the device it looked to me that the on/off button was blinking or emitting light. At the time i didn't know what it was, but reading your msg i think this must be the LED signal.
So yes, it has a LED signal in the on/off button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431850
check out this forum thread for the TV out stuff... at the moment it is unlikely that the phone will have this feature, like Raphael, because Raphael was the only one with the required USB connection... Videos show that no such port is on the Blackstone... still hoping though.
The DPad showing the status was a good thing as I got it in the cradle all the time. Having such function on the power button makes it harder to see, but cool nonetheless.
Wish they did it Blackberry style - placing a single very bright LED near the speaker hole on the front... Subtle yet rarely overlooked.
Hi,
Is their a way that the call answer|home|Back|Call End keys can be highlighted in the dark with say a white light?
That would be so cool when using the phone in the dark!
I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
samir_d said:
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I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
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exactly!!..and there isn't
This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
i wish it did. it would have been a SEXY touch to the HD
matthew1471 said:
This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
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Yes it is so stupid that I think a ten year old child designed it. They are impossible to see in the dark and often I press the wrong one and are almost throwing the phone in the floor in anger
I suspose a skillful "Mod-er" could silkscreen some glow-in-the-dark paint on an adhesive layer (perhaps as simple as scotch tape) and adfix it to the front. Who knows might even be a market for this. I'd pay $4.95 US for it.
abeery said:
I'd pay $4.95 US for it.
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"But not $5.00. $5.00 is too much"
A lot better without any additional lights, imho.
I like reading ebooks in the dark with the phone, and experices with other phones have shown that leds etc are annoying.
solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
crashDebug said:
solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
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You could probably use available GPIO lines (if any are not used) to control the leds, but modding mobile devices without some kind of blueprints is next to impossible It's unlikely there's enough space inside the HD to house the leds and wiring required for such mod.
just hold your hand below your HD so the light of the screen reflects onto the buttons, simple enough imho
The buttons are overrated. I hardly ever use them. The only one I use is the very left buttin for Voice Command.
And I am able to find the button in complete darkness!!!!
I wish they would be gone in favor of a bigger screen.
HTC wanted to illuminate the hard buttons, but couldn't. The strategy behind the touch hd was to create the first device ever that will totally disallow its user to obtain any useful information whether a call has been missed while he was away from the phone. Moreover, part of the strategy was to *make sure* no matter how much the community will try to correct this situation, that they will stand no chance.
For this, HTC went with a tiny, faint, green led missed-call indicator at the side of the on/off button, and to make sure nobody will be able to program a solution, they had to let go the illuminated hard buttons (since otherwise the community could have programed it to behave like the Diamond, and so it would have been possible to know if you missed a call). It was a compromise for HTC, but the manager of the touch hd product recently was quoted saying that they feel satisfied with this compromise, because they feel that sacrificing hard button illumination was well worth it if the prize is to create the very first device that can be 100% inefficient at showing the missed calls you had while being away from the phone (and no less important: is 100% bulletproof against any attempt of the community to disable this cutting-edge feature).
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can be %100 inefficient at showing missed calls without the screen being active.
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99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
crashDebug said:
99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
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Actually it's 99.99999999999999999999999% inefficient, but in this situation (where you'll have to miss several billion calls in order to notice one) I thought it was safe to round it up to 100%.
Surely the simple way forward here would be through the use of quantum technology.
We know that there are no lights behind the buttons, but that doesn't prevent the butons being illuminated, because in another parallel universe some HTC designer might have accidently designed a useful and practical version of the HD (of course, this is where my idea falls down, as it's impossible for any HTC designer to be so forward-thinking).
Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum.
So if we could co-ordinate a mass simultaneous experiment, where we all throw our HDs up into the air, and let them all hit the ground at EXACTLY the same time, we should find that we will have easily removed the problem of non-illuminating buttons for all those partaking of this exercise.
A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
"Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum."
Boy this is scary, if your theory is right, we could all be subjects of an quantum physics experiment. What if the HD in fact doesn't exist att all!? have you concidered that? If your theory is right, it could just be a flicker in the time/space continuum. :O what the hell, as long as it's persistant I don't care.
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to. But I must admit the lack of light underneath them is a little bit odd from a design point of view though.
For the missed call isue, isn't there a way to make the screen backlight flash with very short quite frequent flashes to indicate missed calls? For those who check the phone for missed calls every other minute this could be a good med against hart attack (or atleast blue fingertip from pressing the power-button a million times).
nikki-m said:
A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
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I really like those side effects, only problem is that we'll also lose warranty, so if in the distant future something bad will happen to our beloved touch hd, we will not have coverage...
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to.
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Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
Noam23 said:
Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
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Well... you have a point... but in the other hand your statement is pretty contradictory in itself. My computer (a macbook, I'll probably get my ass kicked for saying that) has no backlit keyboard and has something like 80 keys so it sounds pretty weard that it would be easer to learn the location of all of them. or have you written a program that alters the location of the 4 HD-keys so you honestly can say that it's impossible to learn?
Hi all,
Has anyone seen the top side of the HTC HD2? I tried to see in the official website and also in youtube videos but think there are no notification lights like the HTC Touch HD. I find it very useful in the Touch HD, saving it from taking it out of the pocket and pouch.
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Other than that, it's a nice device plus micro usb now read on BBC that they are going universal in mid 2010: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8323018.stm "The charger has a micro-USB port at the connecting end, using similar technology to digital cameras".
Mayb like the kaiser next to the earphone...
Like xmoo said, it is on the left of the earphone. I have seen two videos on YouTube where you can see a green LED which blinks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgBe2quYMk @ 0:25 take care of the upper left
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlAjD4ZKr8 - here it seems to glow red permanently
i'd guess the permanent red glowing would be due to the phone being on charge
Very nice, didn't notice that in the videos! =) Thanks!
As I don't possess a HTC HD...what are the notifications usually for (red, green, blinking,..)?
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Other than that, it's a nice device plus micro usb now read on BBC that they are going universal in mid 2010.
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The EU forced the manufactures to agree on one universal connector by (I think) 2010 or sth. . I think that was about 1-2 years ago. So if microUSB is the universal one, than probably every device will have that in the near future.
Just saying that, because it seems like everyone is kinda (positively) surprised that all the new devices have microUSB now =)
kabakara said:
As I don't possess a HTC HD...what are the notifications usually for (red, green, blinking,..)?
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Blinking green for missed event (SMS, mail, reminder)
Solid green when fully charged and connected to external power source
Blinking red for critical battery
Solid red for charging
Off for anything else (i.e. it doesn't indicate signal reception status in any way)
dataSaMm said:
Hi all,
Has anyone seen the top side of the HTC HD2? I tried to see in the official website and also in youtube videos but think there are no notification lights like the HTC Touch HD. I find it very useful in the Touch HD, saving it from taking it out of the pocket and pouch.
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was true on the HD as the light was on top, but since the HD2 has the light on the front, you still have to take it out of the pouch to see the notification.
Shoggy said:
Like xmoo said, it is on the left of the earphone. I have seen two videos on YouTube where you can see a green LED which blinks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgBe2quYMk @ 0:25 take care of the upper left
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlAjD4ZKr8 - here it seems to glow red permanently
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Shoggy, I didn't see it the first time. Thank you for the links and the time
kabakara said:
Very nice, didn't notice that in the videos! =) Thanks!
As I don't possess a HTC HD...what are the notifications usually for (red, green, blinking,..)?
The EU forced the manufactures to agree on one universal connector by (I think) 2010 or sth. . I think that was about 1-2 years ago. So if microUSB is the universal one, than probably every device will have that in the near future.
Just saying that, because it seems like everyone is kinda (positively) surprised that all the new devices have microUSB now =)
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Some people are surprised plus it's been a while. But I think this is great, don't need to carry the charger if it's universal when travelling also for those who read the news will know it will be very good for the environment.
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was true on the HD as the light was on top, but since the HD2 has the light on the front, you still have to take it out of the pouch to see the notification.
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You are right, unfortunately we will still need to take it out of the pouch now. There is nothing on the top, I would of thought a lot of people found that useful in the Touch HD although the led was very small but still useful
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it wouldnt have helped if it was in the top, since the 3.5 output is at the bottom hence most people will have the top downwards
br3nt said:
it wouldnt have helped if it was in the top, since the 3.5 output is at the bottom hence most people will have the top downwards
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good notice
br3nt said:
it wouldnt have helped if it was in the top, since the 3.5 output is at the bottom hence most people will have the top downwards
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I do like the idea of having the output at the bottom which is what I wanted in first place (makes it harder for dust to get in when in pouch) but having the lights at the top should of remained because when you are listening to music you would have your headphones in and if there was a sms or call you would hear it in your ear piece.
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I do like the idea of having the output at the bottom which is what I wanted in first place (makes it harder for dust to get in when in pouch) but having the lights at the top should of remained because when you are listening to music you would have your headphones in and if there was a sms or call you would hear it in your ear piece.
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not quite sure I understand what you mean?
br3nt said:
not quite sure I understand what you mean?
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he means you'd hear the notification sound for the txt/call through the headphones
yes, but how would that help if the light was on the top? ... I mean from the point of view that you're listening to music... but if not, then I understand... had to wake up a bit
kabakara said:
The EU forced the manufactures to agree on one universal connector by (I think) 2010 or sth. . I think that was about 1-2 years ago. So if microUSB is the universal one, than probably every device will have that in the near future.
Just saying that, because it seems like everyone is kinda (positively) surprised that all the new devices have microUSB now =)
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It's a voluntary thing, which is why it's surprising - HTC loves ExtUSB.
Who cares about a dedicated notification light ?, the HD2 has illuminated buttons which could be programed to show notifications. Much more efficient.
That's nt red it's orange.
Orange on HTC means charging.
Red is low battery.
Hope just like the kaiser notification, we'll be able to edit the led colours as how we want them.
Hi!
I'm considering buying the phone, but I'm being put off by some things, among them inconveniently placed notification LED. Afaik it is in the power button, which quite sucks. So I'd like to ask what some handy alternatives there are? Probably something that would turn on the screen and it would stay on for some time?
Thanks
No one? How exactly do YOU solve this problem?
Got soldering skills? Buy micro led, solder it in front of speaker mesh, enjoy.
retsam88, it is better to be quiet if you don't have a reasonable answer.
The majority of us just don't consider this to be a problem.
OK, thanks, maybe I could also live with it.
I found two applications in case I could not:
Status LED:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...http-i8000-modaco-com/301392/status-led-v0-4/
ReRemind:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498161
Now the only thing remains to buy a Touch HD for a good price
Frankly, i never noticed if HTC Touch HD's led is blinking or not when you have missed calls/sms and have been using it for 2 years now. Only noticed it blinking when battery is drained. But you can use S2U2, which is a free lockscreen application and has the options of reminding you about missed calls/sms/emails by playing sounds at certain intervals.
Eh... is there an application which could be used to tweak the LED? Thanks
yes i have on top let blink for mesage mised call etc
Please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9258108#post9258108
To prove the point, get a camera, and HD2,You will see it glow white !
use a camera and point it at the sensor you will find the white light blinking while in android, where as in WINMO it doesnt, it blinks during calls only!!!
How does this matter at all? (unless it's some kind of vital bug in liblights)
shadiku said:
How does this matter at all? (unless it's some kind of vital bug in liblights)
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I think the concern was that the IR light used for sensing if you are holding the phone up to your head during a call is on all the time instead of just during calls. In theory that would use a little extra battery, apart from that it wouldn't do anything.
Not a major concern, but if someone was looking at the lights code they could take a look.
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I think the concern was that the IR light used for sensing if you are holding the phone up to your head during a call is on all the time instead of just during calls. In theory that would use a little extra battery, apart from that it wouldn't do anything.
Not a major concern, but if someone was looking at the lights code they could take a look.
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Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Mine don't glow..
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It (infrared) glows but only while screen is on. Not in standby. But that could do SOME unnecessary draining if not in a call.
Dev know that?