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HTC Update in 10 Days

Vonn over at Android Community Forums just posted that they got an email from HTC Customer Care saying that there will be an update in the very near future.
Full post from Vonn:
Lots of people will probably be interested in this. It was mailed to me today from HTC Customer Care and comes from HTC Head Office.
"HTC is actively working on a software update that will make your experience on your Hero device better. A partial software update is ready in 10 days and a major release will be available in mid September containing local language support.. Please check our website from time to time and update your device when the software is available"
Customer Care don't know exactly what will be contained in the update though so keep an eye on the site.
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Cool.
Lets hope the telco's have betas and are testing to allow for us branded Hero users to take advantage of this.

Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that

Stafflover said:
Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
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That's good advice. Be warned, people!

Assuming you still had access, you could just flash it back, no?

Excellent news

Makes a change for HTC normally they wait for the guys on this forum to release updates for them. They must be keen to make sure they get the android market share.

Brilliant!

Excellent!!!

Great!
Can someone enlighten me as to how these updates (especially the "major" update in September) work? Do we completely reflash the entire rom? Will this erase our settings, personal data such as smses and downloaded apps? And will it bring the phone back to being unrooted?
Thanks

It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...

It will be interesting to see what improvements HTC can put together and what user issues they resolve with it.

Well, I certainly hope this is the case but the guy I spoke with today at HTC customer service in Sweden gave me quite the opposite impression. He told me no major fw-updates were planned, only minor fixes but no dates were set.
Hopefully, he's not up to speed

he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue

Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.

Aridon said:
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
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So that's why they are doing a firmware update for the US market. Couldn't understand why they were so keen yo get an update out.

suisen said:
he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
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re the leds that will be interesting as my hero has been sent back to HTC for this very reason. When i spoke to customer support they said there was no record of the led issue being reported

Not having LED issues here so I hope the update addresses the UI lag with some performance enhancements.

To be honest, I'm hopeful but not optimistic. Heard all the 'new release in ten days' bollocks from HTC when I had the absolute disaster that was my Kaiser, and never got anything from them then. I hope they've changed...

The Doctor said:
It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
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Not necessarily. If you're moving from one major build to another, e.g. T-Mobile US to T-Mobile UK ROM, or T-Mobile to Rogers ROM, then yes, you will probably need to wipe. My experience with the 'official' ROMs is that they never require a wipe and are designed to be so.

i9000 to get Froyo ~ No specific date as yet!

As posted on asia cnet.com web site.
The i9000 will eventually at some stage get Android 2.2 Froyo.
Read here for details.

yay that will make things even better

I don't mind waiting. 2.1 is still pretty cool, and I rather seem them test Froyo properly rather than rush out an update.

re's another outside source posting details. This time it's from GSMArena.
Read it here.

it woudl be awesome with froyo on it

according to SamsungFirmwares on Twitter:
SamsungFirmwares said:
So Samsung is testing 2.2 (No info about phones) And updates for 2.1 in more countries soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmtqrpTBrY
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.

Actually he didn't say that. This interview was answered with the usual catalogue of noncommittal standard responses. He only said they are working on it.

hermanherz said:
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
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at that event in UAE Samsung have stated that the Galaxy S will have the update in around two months

As Eldar Murtazin state,
It was in March that I shared my impressions of Galaxy S, those who do not remember, can read it here.
Quite frequently I am asked to tell about this device in detail, more over some say that there are some so-called reviews in the Internet. To my mind the problem is that for the time being there is no official software for the device. There will be a couple of different versions before it is officially released as well as the default set of programs can be changed. Those prototypes that people have today do not have final design, they are different from commercial devices (there is no curve in the lower body part in the final samples).
In Russia as in the majority of states it will be released in mid-July. Some countries will see the device one month earlier. But the update to Android 2.2 for this phone will be available only in mid-Summer. So is there a point in writing about it if something may change radically? I suggest that there are no problems in the device as such and it is possible to write about it. You can get general impression even today. In this dilemma I ask for your advice, what should I do best? It will be logical to add a part about the camera and description of some applications to the first article and call it the preliminary review. Should such material be published and announced on the main page – remains a question for me as well. Give your advice and recommendations, your opinion is important as always.
As a small bonus I want to mention that Galaxy S is important for the Android market in another way. It is known that most people consider Marketplace to be the only place where you can get applications and assume that Google will protect its right for it at all costs. In other words it will not tolerate other similar applications by other companies. It suddenly appears that Samsung can install such applications; particularly the device has Samsung application and book stores. What is more amazing is that while discussing this issue one of company’s top manager said that on the device you can use any search from any company. Google does not insist on the use of its search by default. The fact that everyone uses it today does not mean that there are any restrictions by Google. This remarkable discovery makes Android not only very open system but the system whose main advantage is the possibility to use any solutions available. This is namely what Samsung is doing. In this aspect both companies are following an understandable path, by not restricting users in choice of services. Admit that you did not know that Google is so flexible about Android? Or the reason is in antitrust legislation? I do not know but the fact remains, Google does not impose any one-sided terms on the hardware manufacturers.
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This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !

MacaronyMax said:
This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
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Totally agree, games from GAmeloft like (Sandstorm) is so freaken smooth like constant 60fps
The OS seems very snappy already and 2.2 is just gonna blow my mind away when its ready for our S!!!

as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month

v1rtu4l said:
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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lol nice to see you here v1rtu4l. samsung will probably take their sweet time to get this update out, you and i both know how they work.. hopefully well be able to add Froyo to the Galaxy S ourselves as it was rooted today.

Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?

krumbs said:
Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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interesting point, is the codec support built into touchwiz or a feature on the media player?.... one of my big reasons for buying this phone is root and the codec support....

"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port

kolyan said:
"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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at least you hear HTC and Moto talk about it....I havent heard much from Samsung lately....

I'm eagerly awaiting some guru Rom maker to deliver Froyo to the GS. The first one to do so will definitely be getting a donation from me.

The phone is rooted... how far are we to get froyo on this.. ...
Waiting from samsung is a pain.

Will pure AOSP Froyo ROM ever be a reality on Samsung Galaxy S devices?

Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.

WhiteWidows said:
Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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This contradicts what I read elsewhere for the better Ill see if I can locate where I read this at, If this is the case why is there no custom roms besides Cyanogenmod? Where is a AOSP roms at? Or is the device just that new nothing is out yet? If this is true Ill be getting the Epic over the Evo

Wifi tether comes with the device, and I have to say I haven't had any problems with its use so far
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While trying this and putting my N1 aside, I'm surprised how much I'm missing FroYo
Any devs that would care to comment on the possibility of a FroYo port for the SGS?

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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What nonsense

I'm a little confused about the situation with ROMs myself, coming from the Windows Mobile world. If the entire source to the build of Android on the Galaxy S is available, surely it's possible to change anything, theoretically? It also seems that the bootloader has no or negligible security as to what it can flash.
On the other hand, I've seen claims that it would be impossible to get Froyo or any future Android updates if Samsung don't release them first (I know they've committed to Froyo). Unless the driver model changes dramatically in Froyo, which I doubt since then new drivers would be required for every phone, why would it be any more difficult to port newer versions of Android to the Galaxy S than any other phone?

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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Why do you say this? I purchased mine today and so far am very satisfied with
the phone.

Just testing xda app.
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jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
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No, it's just that there are different components and layers which can be considered open or "locked down", and you both use different ones.
The bootloader for the samsung galaxy is not locked.
But there is an argument by the XDA forum member psychoace that some of the drivers for the galaxy S were not open sourced, and that in earlier android devices from samsung this made it very hard to create ROMs which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
As far as I know, this argument from psychoace was never countered, and so I see no reason not to believe it. (I did not look over the sources myself yet).
So can someone port new versions of Android over to the Galaxy S after Samsung has abandoned the device? I really don't know, but I wouldn't count on it, until someone who has experience with making custom ROMs says it is realistic.

The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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riz157 said:
The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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as far as i understand it, the lagging issues are just because of the touchwiz and especially the samsung-widgets. removing the widgets and replacing the luncher with luncher-pro/adw will be the first thing i do when i have the device in my hands. on the other side: the hardware of the galaxy s is very good in my opinion!
@bookwormat:
i think you are wrong! i have read in some forums that samsung has released the drivers for 2.1 together with all other code! in fact i am just pulling the code (including the full kernel) from the samsung open source center (http://opensource.samsung.com/). it's huge, 148MB ... when it's finished i will give it a look an confirm what's in there and what not.

You might just want to take into consideration the fact that the Nexus and Desire had some problems as well right after launch.
The nexus took some time ( a couple of months) to set things straight, the Desire- A couple of weeks only. But it's understandable, since it's 95% identical to the nexus, so HTC probably knew what is going to be problematic.
Also, you're taking things to major extremes. You make it sound like the device is catastrophically slow to the level of being unuseable, and crashes every 2 minutes.
Reality, well, is different. The longest lag i had personally is 1.5 seconds when loading asphalt 5. Every other lag when opening an app- less than half a second.
I'd also like you to refrain from stating one personal problem as a bug in the device, you are the only known member in this forum that is having trouble with the keyboard.
A little search in MoDaCo forums reveals that some users are reporting slight problems with the keyboard, but it's limited to Firmware JG01 only.
It's sad that instead of taking a moment to see if you can solve these problems or helping others find a solution, you preffer to bash the device in every occasion.

For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
For me it's really an awesome phone that comes with some minor annoyances that seem entirely caused by the fact that it's brand new. So far it appears that Samsung is putting a lot of effort in maturing the software and I expect the issues to be solved within a matter of weeks. In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Battery life is very good after the first initial cycles.
GPS doesn't work right you may all ***** about that.
I'm sure I would be happy with the new HTC's, or even the iphone 4 (the thought of buying into apple's nasty attitude does make me cringe a bit) but I would still choose the SGS again providing they fix the gps.

Perhaps I'm being over critical but there are serious flaws with this device, there is no denying this.
GPS not working - there doesn't seem to be a solution, can't use copilot or googlemaps.
Lagging/freezing - changed to launcher pro not as bad but still occurs.
I hope the boys at samy are working hard to find fixes for these problems. If there are solutions then please guide me to them.
Don't get me wrong this device has potential and there alot of good features but due to issues mentioned above it just ruins the users experience.
I paid good money for this device not so that I could put it down but to use it. I'm just stating my experience for the benefit of others who maybe considering to buy this device.
If there are solutions wonderful p

dakine said:
For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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I really dont uderstand all this gps not working talk.I use co pilot a lot and its extremely accurate and keeps lock in all weathers.Googe maps works indoors to within a house or so and out side gets me within 15 feet or so.I did have gps issues initially until I flashed firmware and factory reset.My i8910 hd had better gps but that was an exeptional phone for gps

Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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Download the update.zip file from this thread.
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything

I like the phone but there are problems
1.keyboard has dup presses... solved with HTC keyboard. Also l key in portrait mode doesn't always work.
2. Gps lock not as good or reliable as my I 8910
3. StallING.. fix fixed it the only program that has a lag to load is sygic.
4. Image resizing not working well in gallery and web.
5. Still doesn't always switch back to 3g from edge. Jg1 is better than previous.
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Anyone know when my P6800 will get ICS?

OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.

why wait for the ;Official' that may not come to you via OTA..?
Go for the flash of XXLQ2//.. via PC Odin... it's fast and easy and looks official...because it IS official only if your in Austria... But is golden for the rest of s.. I use it in the USA,, and it;s super sweet..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469635
look here for the files and instructions....
good luck
youre worried about 'preventing an official up-date'...
that's what's happenning now to your area!!!
The next up-date over ICS will be Jelly Bean...
and when that comes....
here comes PC Odin agian to flash Official Jelly Bean...
read this too..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848967&highlight=official+ics
Why wait.. enjoy your Ice cream NOW!

i have a TGY Hong Kong tab, bought it in Algeria and when I plugged it to my computer running kies, an update was available, even here in Algeria with my Algerian sim card,
i don't think its related to the country where you are, but to the original csc inside the tab.
as far as I know, the wifi bug come from a different csc ICS rom than the stock HC that was inside the tab (exemple : stock TGY honeycomb 3.2 to Austria ICS 4.0.4 causes wifi bug, people who updated straight from original hc to ics with Kies didn't have the wifi bug) , better wait for Kies updates (i think)
best regards
Sifou
Galaxy Tab 7.7

Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
Yeah, that's why I've waited for the official update but my patience is being severely tested.
I can see why the iPad is so attractive - a lot less mucking around with tweaking things and updates are pretty straightforward. No wondering if your particular device is going to receive an update from whoever made it or the carrier.
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Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!

skeeterpro said:
Samsung has almost always been known for their tardiness in updates. Quite frustrating indeed for many. But IMHO that doesn't come close to making me lean towards iOS. Often there are methods to update or modify Samsung devices in spite of the lack of "official" updates.
Yes, Apple makes fine devices for users who could care less about taking an active role in making their devices their own. To them I say "Go for it." We who find it enjoyable to tweak our devices, iOS isn't an option. I owned an iPad for a month until I found it less than useful. My android devices did the same tasks often better.
To each their own I suppose!
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I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.

Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
I like tweaking technology for fun - but I don't want to have to tweak and manage just to get something usable.
With Honeycomb, the tablet falls way short of expectations. It's not unusable but it the HC-associated lag certainly isn't something I like to live with. The least I would expect is a prompt update to ICS to deliver upon the promises of the hardware and the fact that my device hasn't received an upgrade almost a full year after the OS was released is a joke.
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I am in complete agreement with you. The 7.7 was just OK with HC. It worked but that was about it. Which is why I went ahead and flashed the Austrian ICS ROM. Never looked back!

But why does it have to take so long to roll out. Many countries already have it quite a while. I live in The Netherlands and I am anxiously waiting. Hurry, please hurry!
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Kaiser Wilhelm II said:
OK, still waiting on ICS for my Galaxy Tab 7.7 (P6800).
Neither trying OTA from the menu on the Tab (always 'No Updates Found') nor using Kies ('Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies') results in an upgrade.
These are the reported firmware levels (from Kies and the internal system info menu)
PDA:LA2 / PHONE:LA1 / CSC:LA2 (XSG)
P6800ZSLA2/P6800ZZHLA2/P6800XXLA1/P6800ZSLA2 (XSG)
It was bought in the UK but it's an import and I think that the above levels mean it's a Hong Kong model - for which an ICS upgrade has been available for some time. Yet still no dice.
Anyone know what gives? Is it maybe because I'm currently running a UK data SIM in the device which might be confusing region ID?
It's getting close to the point where I might try ODIN and a ROM sourced off the net but I'd much prefer to get it done the 'official' way and I'm a bit worried that something might be preventing an upgrade.
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Was your device rooted? i encountered the same situation after i rooted my device.
i guess,your second statement might be a possibility as well since [IMHO] [IDK but] the update might have been released internationally as of now.

You may try this ROM. You need to root your device of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838391

Bad updating experience with Samsung

Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
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You write that you are still on N8000XXLGA.
Sorry man, but it is your fault if you chose not to update by flashing the newest firmware.
Thanks to Samsung, Samfirmware and XDA, you have this option.
Other big companies, for example Acer, LG, will not even give you this.
So why do you not update?

tweetatoo said:
Hello guys, how are you doing?
I just wanted to share with you my own opinion over how Samsung deals with updates to a Galaxy Note 10.1.
Actually, many users have reported software bugs in Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung confirmed many like the bug of clipboard. But the bad part is Samsung ignorance of bug fixing. It is good that we will receive 4.1.2 update with premium suite preinstalled, but it is bad that we did not receive a bug fixing package!
It has been several months since the launch of the Note 10.1 that many owners of the product started to get frustrated of the bugs. I cannot copy an article and save it as note in S Note app or share it in Facebook!
Besides, Samsung released JB 4.1.1 update to some regions, stopped then started releasing 4.1.2 in the time users still have the buggy 4.0.4 for many months in several countries, if not most! Even though 4.1.1 has stability issues, Samsung shall fix current bugs of 4.0.4 before caring to release a major 4.1.2, as this needs a quite long time by Samsung for a frustrating bug to remain!
Software is as important as hardware. I do not care for receiving a new major update with hundreds of new features, as we will receive it soon or later! But for me, a stable software with only two features is far far better than a buggy one with hundreds of cool features that I am unable to use!
Samsung used to release improvement packages and push them to their software update server for their products, but it is really strange why this is not the case for Note 10.1!
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Agreed, I had to resort to manually flashing the German JB update to "fix" the PDF import problem on my Canadian N8010. I feel sorry for the average customer that bought the Note but doesn't know how (or even think) to flash a firmware.
This is why Samsung will remain a second-rate manufacturer of mobile devices: ineffective software QA and silly update rollout schedules.

Samsung is known for slow firmware updates, mostly due to the most customization of android in the world. Second-rate manufacturer? Not sure about that my friend. You are smart enough to Google Samsung.

This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:

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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Likewise i fail to see why XDA Developers has so many users wanting Samsung update path posting .
First job i do is remove Kies and OTA .
jje

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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Haha... so true... hehe... I like your humor...

The note isn't my first Android tablet, but it is the best that I've owned to date. My first Android tablet was an Archos 101. In addition to poor quality control that led to dead USB ports and speakers on multiple units while under warranty, the company's constant push of half-backed updates drove me and others away from that brand. You need to test code changes to make sure one "fix" doesn't break something else. Archos engineers didn't test updates thoroughly and rushed out updates that created additional issues. I quit updating that tablet. Thank goodness Samsung is more diligent. No OS is perfect and some of the things we might be unhappy with really are deliberate design features that Google incorporated into JB (or, in your case ICS). I would also suggest that you update to JB, you'll gain valuable features with the s-pen. At this point in time, I am happy with stock JB. I will probably root it soon (I wanted to use it on stock JB for a while before rooting). Eventually, I may flash one of the custom ROMs developed by the talented developers on this forum. The great thing about the popularity of Samsung products is that the popularity generates more developer interest, a big win for adventurous owners willing to root and flash.

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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.

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Having to do all that is, to me, what is required from buying a second or third-rate product. I wouldn't buy a car, for example, and be happy to expect that I need to change the spark plugs or some nonsense when I bring it home.
I mess around with R/C cars and I have in the past bought crappy cars because I enjoy tinkering and making them better, but I don't want or expect to do that with a mass market product lol.
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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad

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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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This post is an argument waiting to happen.
My tuppence, IF users don't have the capacity to download 1 program (Odin) and 1 file (the updated rom) then follow a simple set of instructions, put tab in download mode by pressing 2 buttons, connecting a charger cable to the device and the computer/lapto, run Odin, run the update, then they should be buying that fruit based logo device. You know, the one designed for numpties :silly:
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Your advices are sick my friend. For me, I did flash many firmwares of other regions onto my devices. But in the same time, good may be overwhelmed by bad things. These 1-2-3 steps were sometimes helpful and other times disasterous! For example, I have flashed many firmwares before on my Galaxy S i9003, Galaxy S II i9100, and my latest Galaxy S III.
For unknown reason, my Galaxy S III got bricked and went into a boot loop. It was not a noticed hardware failure neither it was a corrupt Odin package, but for some reason, a hidden hardware failure has become obvious following the flash. Samsung has reported that the motherboard was completely damaged and that unofficial firmware flashing of different CSCs was the cause. It could be also a manufacturing error. Whatever it is, I was lucky that Samsung did not void my warranty as it was rooted at that time with the flash counter > 0.
Besides, I have more than five Samsung Galaxy devices in the house, and they look to me as their software geek!! Whenever an update is released, I cannot say always to them yes, and let me flash things to you!!!!
Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!

no one is forcing you to upgrade, after all it's your tablet and you can do whatever you want, i am still on ICS and plan to stay that way for a while because i feel personally it's stable for me and works, i don't really care about new features i will hardly use, best thing is to root and then you can decide if you want to upgrade your tablet at a later date or not, the option is still there with odin.
i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.

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Besides, why am I supposed to flash the German one? For the learning hub that does not work in my country? Or for Music and Video hubs that are also forbidden in my Country?! And why does Samsung have all these software variability? Why does not they make a united software with custom configurations based on country; like Apple?! Apple used to release the update worldwide with blocking un-allowed features based on country chosen!
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i too also prefer uk firmware because some features that are on the uk firmware won't specifically be on the german firmware, different regions different features.
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Hehehe The biggest joke of all is that the UK version is INCLUDED into the German version. You just need to change csc and you have the UK firmware, not a firmware LIKE the uk firmware but THE UK firmware.
Some people just prefer to complain instead of moving a finger themselves.

Just flashed premium bugs 4.1.2... not bad so far! Well woth the upgrade from ics unless you use the gallery, as that isn't fixed!

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I love to update using OTA; AS SIMPLE AS THAT, apart from all the BLA BLA BLA you have said!!!
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Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:

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Then stop being a complainawhinger then and just wait for Samsung to deliver your update to you OTA. While you're waiting for it I'll continue to try and help people wanting to update to the latest version, with my sick, but helpful advice, :good:
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haha we need more people like you Riki1kenobi... some fun but helpful post... :laugh:
people should not get easily offended over some jokes the man was just trying to help... and as JJEgan said i also can't understand why so many xda members here are waiting for ota updates... i understand that xda is the place to look for all things android but really the 1st step you should do is not rely on kies and learn some odin and flashing..
but hell we're all in one community... there are always some whiners and whatever kind of people and that just adds to the fun of being here on xda..

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Nice analogy er, maybe not...... Thing is, no one is forcing you to update/upgrade/tinker. An update message pops up from time to time on the device and you click ok and it installs. That is as simple as it gets. That's NOT what we are talking about here though. We are talking about folks getting their flossy in a twizzie because a newer version of the OS is available and it hasn't been pushed to their device yet.
I have never seen anything written anywhere on the terms and conditions of any device I have bought that states I am entitled to get any upgrade to OR should expect to be updated to the latest software. In fact, iirc it says that on occasion an update may, yes MAY become available for the device and to either follow the onscreen instructions or visit (insert website here) for instructions on how to update.
Now to get back to the point, peeps EXPECT TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE, but they don't want to follow the instructions to do it. These instructions are usually made as simple as 1-2-3 so that even the technologically challenged can follow them. Turns out they ain't simple enough for some though and then the moaning and bleating begins, followed by the blaming. My device is stuffed, Samsung is rubbish, this cheese toastie is mouldy etc, but you never hear anyone saying, aargh fecked it up but it was my fault, I was born with two left brains or life is like a box of chocolates lieutenant Dan!
Sorry for such a long post. But I hope it helps clear things a tad
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I absolutely, totally agree with you. People see something new and they just WANT to update, because we are consumer whores.
However, I needed to update to fix the notorious PDF import problem in S-Note (as noted in first post in this thread). Basically, if I wanted to import PDFs from school into S-Note, S-Note would crash. This only happens to specific versions of the N8010 firmware (Canada being one of them).
I don't come looking for fights etc. as a lot of people do, I just speak (sometimes shout!) the truth.

Different regions /countries have different legal requirements which I suspect is one of the big delays for some regions. If you want everything done for you (OTA) , be patient and stup reading forums lokking for the latest updateor you will never be happy.
Of course you could also encourage your government to remove some of the restrictions, but for that I think you will be waiting much longer! I for one am amazed the updates get out as quickly as they do, re-evaluating every rom in every country for legal issues has to be a very expensive nightmare. Samsung is a big international company, ignoring regional laws is not really an option.
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I have lost my hope that New Zealand will be able to get JB Update. So now after reading many threads for months I am plunging into this forum to know how I can update my machine.
My tablet
Model Number
GT-N8000
Baseband version
N8000XXALI3
Android version
4.0.4
1. Please suggest me which firmware is going to be suitable for my tablet
2. If tomorrow NZ firmware is released and I be able to flash it manually will it be back to normal for OTA upgrades ?
Thanks

l. Put German Jellybean
2. Yes
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