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HTC Legend .. Intensive 3D Gaming ?

Hey
i'm really consedoring buying the legend , just wondering since the CPU is 600MHz , will it be good with intensive 3D gaming like Asphalt 5 , Raging Thunder and Deliverace ?
or should i get the Samsung Wave instead ? cause i won't buy a phone that don't game well

Unlike the HTC hero, the legend has a dedicated GPU so will be better for games.

RaiderX303 said:
Unlike the HTC hero, the legend has a dedicated GPU so will be better for games.
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then why do they say that the legend is only a slight upgrade from the hero in terms of tech?

it runs 3d games smooth, that is the 3d games out now and support tilt control, and that are not a lot of games.
Asphalt, smooth but no tilt control
Raging thunder, smooth for 98%
Google Earth (almost a game) no support doesn´t boot up
simply said, if you want to go for a mobile that supports hardcore 3d games and thatw really important to you in the long term, then get the desire or nexus or iphone. Sure the Legend support and runs the current gen of games perfect. There will come a time in next couple of month when increasing spec demand on a mobile will get the Legend a step back.
But who knows, the Hero getting an upgrade to 2.1 and it performs 100% better then on 1.6 android.

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hi mate can u please confirm any source regarding its dedicated GPU?
i am so excited if this is true since i have milestone which runs on a dedicated GPU and it plays asphalt much better than Nexus

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The MSM7200 SoC in the Hero does have a GPU based on ATI Imageon technology. It's not a particularly capable unit, but it is there.
Regards,
Dave

jakontil said:
hi mate can u please confirm any source regarding its dedicated GPU?
i am so excited if this is true since i have milestone which runs on a dedicated GPU and it plays asphalt much better than Nexus
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Take a look here: qualcomm.com/news/releases/2009/02/12/qualcomm-targets-sub-150-smartphones-versatile-high-performance-chipset-sup
The new MSM7227 chipset features a 600 MHz applications processor with a floating point unit, 320 MHz application DSP, 400 MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics
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Apparently it supports OpenGL 2.0 whereas the Hero's dedicated GPU only suppors OpenGL 1.0. So it should perform better, but so far there are hardly any Android apps that make use of a dedicated GPU so it's hard to actually say how big the difference is.

Jarune said:
Asphalt, smooth but no tilt control
Raging thunder, smooth for 98%
Google Earth (almost a game) no support doesn´t boot up
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I tried these out on my Legend.
Asphalt does work and so does tilt control. You have to enable accelerometer in the game options. The game seemed incredibly fast though. But maybe that's how it's supposed to play.
Raging Thunder. No problems there. Pretty fun too.
And as you said, google earth doesn't even start up

is it asphalt 5 or 3?

pollokp said:
is it asphalt 5 or 3?
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I suppose it is 3....

3D Gaming Tests
I have tested some 3d games from the market place. Some of them only in a lite version, but the graphics should be the same... ^^
There is a rating system om smoothness from 1-5
Speedx 3D
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-beepstreet-speedx-wFnn.aspx
Its product specification tells the truth. It delivers stunning 3D accelerometer controlled tunnel experience without any lags.
5
Armageddon Squadron
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-polarbit-asquadron-pmqD.aspx
By stopping all tasks with my advanced task manager it runs quiet well. But not as smooth as Speedx 3D. Looks like 20 FPS. Anyway its playable and its still fun...
4
Raging Thunder 2 Lite
http://www.androlib.com/android.screenshot.app.nwtE-tEiE.u.aspx
Wow! Amazing 3d graphics! But you reckognize that HTC maybe doesn´t use the full CPU capacity of the legend as it could use. Starting a Race it lags and after some seconds it becomes much smoother, but still a bit laggy. 15-20 FPS therefore you can play it,
3.5
Speed Forge 3D Demo
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.mag3dlite-speedforgedemo-qCmp.aspx
Perfect! Super smooth!
5
Magnetic Sports Soccer
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-revo-proto-tiqp.aspx
Runs very smooth with an occasional appearance of lags... Very seldom
4.5
ToonWarz - LITE
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-polarbit-toonwarzlite-pqtB.aspx
Oh my godness! At first I thougt hey it runs not bad. But then the first enemies appeared and the FPS crashed totally! Unplayable³!
1
Kwaak3 - Quake 3 Arena for Android
http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/
Very nice! After change the lightning from "Lightning maps" to "vertex" and the texture quality to 50% it runs very smooth with only one enemy and quiet okay with 3 enemies...
4.5
For shortness of this post i will only name the game and put a number behind it.
Homerun battle 3D demo- 5
Wave Blazer - 4
Quake 2&1 - 2
Mystique Chapter 1 - 5
My Paper - 5
Lybyrinth - 5
Dice 3D - 5
Friday Escape Lite - 3.5
Armadillo Roll Demo - 5
Vacuum - 5
Raging Thunder 1 - 5
NO ASPHALT 5!!!!!!!!
Upcoming tests after putting money aside
Exzeus Arcade - unfortunately no lite version out there
Deliverace - Omg! trailers look amazing! Hopefully it will be quiet smooth (not available at the moment)
Light Racer 3d - But maybe you can test these games??
Super G Stunt
SpaceTracks
Welcome to Hell 3D (not available at the moment)
Crusade of Destiny (not available at the moment)
AVERAGE RATING: 4,27777
After the devs have some clues to upgrade legends performance it could be nearly 5.

i know this thread is pretty old but i would like to add Dungeon Hunter.
the only game from gameloft that seems to work nearly perfect on the legend (no display resolution problems).
so, without overclocking version 3.11 runs pretty well. some buttons are deformed thats all.
the game doesn´t run perfect, but its playable.
version 3.5.7 (HD) works, too. but the graphics are deformed and youll get errors instead of videos.
Version 3.1.1 = 4.7/5
Version 3.5.7 = 4.2/5

so from all 3d gameloft games just dungen hunter will work well ?

i havent tested all games sofar, i m not that interessted in racing games or football managers and stuff.
but from the games ive tested (assassins creed, sandstorm, nova, hero of sparta and some other i forgot) only dungeon hunter works with the right resolution, nova was basicly playable, too (for example). but playing wouldnt be fun.

Just an aside 'cos I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, the MSM7227 has the same Adreno 200 GPU that is used in the 1GHz Snapdragon phones like the Desire. Not sure about the clock speed, but I'd imagine it bears at least some relation to the main CPU clock.
Remember though that the Legend has a lot less screen to fill up so the lower fillrate is not so much of an issue, if at all. In fact, when you look at the Neocore benchmarks, the Legend holds up pretty well.
This link* shows Neocore benchmark scores for various devices and although the Legend is not tested, the MyTouch Slide has the same MSM7227 so results are comparable.
A lot of the 3D games for Android look like fairly lazy ports of older iPhone apps (Gameloft, I'm looking at you!) and may not be particularly suited to one Android GPU or another. That's Android fragmentation and an immature market though, eh?
Having said that, if 3D performance is important then something like Galaxy S would surely be the choice handset. The 1+GHz high-resolution devices will be the target devices for any serious game development so you may find that 320x480 and lower handsets are ignored to a great extent. Whether a burgeoning budget market keeps these lower-end device on developers' minds remains to be seen.
Edit to add: The only 3D game I have and play regularly is Carrom 3D (great pool/snooker game) and this is smooth enough even with all the detail turned up. A lot of other apps 'running' in the background will cause occasional lag, but then this is the price we pay for a multi-tasking environment!
* Search for "high end android gpu showdown" to get link at Android&Me (can't link as I'm a new account)

The only game (that I tried) that lags on my legend is caligo chaser

FIFA10 lags too.

the legend isnt a real lower-end device (the wildfire is xD).
if google would optimize android and htc would optimize sense the cpu and gpu would have much more power to for example to play games more fluedly.
if coders would even try to optimize theyr games for legend (and it would be very easy for gameloft for example, htc legend is comparable to the iphone 3gs and most of there games are coded for exactly that device), they would work just perfect.
the lower cpu rate and the lack of ram isnt the real problem: compare the hardware of the phones to a pc 10 years ago, the snapdragon should reach better performance than an pentium 3/1ghz cause of the architectur, the gpu is far away from the power of a geforce 2mx, but still pretty good.
based on the better architecture (n45; arm) the 600mhz msm7227 should be comparable to a 800mhz pentium 3.
this hardware has to work with a smaller screen with a fixed resolution. they could reach so much better performance, graphics etc. they are just too lazy.
(ps: i know that smartphone hardware isnt really comparable to hardware that was in pcs back then, but mhz is mhz)

were2 said:
(ps: i know that smartphone hardware isnt really comparable to hardware that was in pcs back then, but mhz is mhz)
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Yeah, but MHz to MHz rarely mean much, even in the same architecture. For example: The new Qualcomm CPU's, found in the Desire-Z (T-Mobile G2, 800MHz) outperform the 1GHz (1000MHz) CPU found in the Dersire by a long way (these are both ARM). If you look at AMD CPUs vs Intel CPUs then AMD almost always outperform Intel, even on a lower clock-speed. (Both the x86-64 architecture). MHz to MHz only has a real, measurable, bearing when applied to 2 of the same CPUs at to different clock speeds (overclocking)
Having said all that, I do agree with your post. The Legend is capable of so much more, if only people would take the time to code properly. Part of the problem is that people rely on the Dalvik VM (fairly phone-independent), so they rarely have to code on a "per-phone-model" basis. With the iPhone, as it's only ever 1 set of hardware, programmers can easily optimise it for the iPhone. It's much harder to optimise for Android, as it exists on so many phones, each with different specs. But that's the price you pay for choice...

Suprisingly the Legends GPU outperforms the Desire in 3D benchmarks. The CPU is certainly weaker in the Legend, but the comparison below is not quite far because the Legend is still on 2.1 and the desire benchmark was 2.2
Hopefully soon they can be compared like for like...
hxxp://wxw.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&showhide=true&certified_only=1&D1=HTC%20Legend&D2=HTC%20Desire%20(Bravo)&D3=Apple%20iPhone%204
THis is a good read:
hxxp://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105-analysis-of-qualcomm-msm7x27-msm7227-msm7627-and-msm7x25-msm7225-msm7625-processors-how-good-are-they/

Games under Froyo - Graphical performances?

Hi guys,
can someone tell me if anyone has posted some video showing how good are the graphical performances under froyo with games like Asphalt 5 or similar.
Maybe someone has already found a comparison...
You know the benchmark are only numbers, but I need to know how these numbers are applied in the real use

ye, I also want to know the graphical perdormance of desire under the 2.2. Because Asphalt 5 get little stuck in the 2.1.

Asphalt 5 won't get any better, it's a very dirty port from the iphone version to Android by Gameloft... they didn't spend enough time on it.

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Asphalt 5 won't get any better, it's a very dirty port from the iphone version to Android by Gameloft... they didn't spend enough time on it.
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yeah, all games should work fine now on the desire, with or without froyo. Don't forget the desire has a 1ghz cpu much greater than the iphone which is around 400mhz. Any game that struggles with framedrops is due to bad programming. I remember Raging Thunder 2, which also had a lot of framedrops in their earlier version. Later on, they updated the game code and the game now works fantastic.
Good games are starting to come now

Its not that simple. Snapdragon is faster than the iPhone CPU for general purpose processing but the GPU in the iPhone is faster.

But still what pina says is true: I mean, Asphalt 5 looks crap and runs slow when compared to Raging Thunder 2. The latter looks a lot better and runs totally smooth.
What I want to say is, the iPhone's GPU might be faster (I dont know the technical details here), but the Snapdragon is still fast enough for graphics as good as on the iPhone, when coded properly.

New version of Asphalt 5 RUNS Very Smooth ;-)

Some games are badly coded, its always been like that on all platforms. Too many Android games are ports, this is never good, and one reason why the games are slow. Electopia on Winmo shows that snapdragon games can look great. However we still have a slower GPU and 2.5x the pixels to push around than the iPhone.. Of course its probable that the low resolution of the iphone also holds back how good its games will ultimately look. I havent been all that impressed with them to be honest, but they have a smooth frame rate.

pina_ said:
yeah, all games should work fine now on the desire, with or without froyo. Don't forget the desire has a 1ghz cpu much greater than the iphone which is around 400mhz. Any game that struggles with framedrops is due to bad programming. I remember Raging Thunder 2, which also had a lot of framedrops in their earlier version. Later on, they updated the game code and the game now works fantastic.
Good games are starting to come now
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*Sigh*
Clock speed doesn't make any bit of difference.
Snapdragon beats the iPhone cpu for regular CPU activities but doesn't stand up to it's GPU.

Gpu quality

I might be getting a desire hd tomorrow but I wanna know how the desire HD handles video processing with its new Gpu. So how does it play video and psx4droid, because my desire has a bit of trouble with high def movies and playing FF 9.
Thanks in advance
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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DevilzDontCry said:
Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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using ninamark 1 .
the GPU for galaxy S will give you 49 fps.
the GPU for Desire HD i have been told its about 35
for Neocore its 55 for Galaxy S vs 58 for HD Desire. but keep in mind that its not fair way to measure using neocore due to the fact its locked @ 55 to 60 fps for Galaxy S
with ninamark 1 . which use more heavey rendering. its showing the gpu true color.
however, you also need to notice that both tests dont mean anything. as i was explaining before in other thread, the dev standard for games is nexus 1. so really. most of the games will run fine on nexus 1. means galaxy s or hd desire wont get any benifits for being superior phones.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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not to be an ass. but its both CPU and GPU for PSX4dorid

PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?

Ethania said:
PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?
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Don't get the wrong idea. The DHD is excellent for games that use the GPU, but psx4droid uses CPU mainly. In all honesty, the PSX4droid app is not coded very well. Performance isn't great not because of the DHD's hardware, but because of dodgy programming. The developer doesn't seem to care too much for optimizing the app either.

yupp... the guy above me is right. check videos of fpsece, psx emulator for windows mobile. this thing flies, it can even run tekken 3 full speed. ... but guys developing it are real smarties, that's why it runs so well on snapdragon first gen.

[Q] Gaming/Gameplay Performance review

I havent seen any vids showing gameplay performance on the Desire HD except angry birds. Has anyone found any or plan on doing one to demo some gameplay videos such as asphalt/nova/modern combat.. its just to see the difference between the smoothness of the HTC Desire (Adreno 200) and Desire HD (Adreno 205).. Im just afraid that there arent much difference between it.
And btw, have any of you guys played some 3D games on your Desire HD? How was it and how do u compare to other snapdragon phones for an example and is it better compared to other snapdragon phones?
Spill some reviews on this please

It benchmarks twice as fast as the one in the Desire, so the difference should be noticeable (unless the games you're testing aren't pushing hard enough of course).

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It benchmarks twice as fast as the one in the Desire, so the difference should be noticeable (unless the games you're testing aren't pushing hard enough of course).
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im just afraid that neocore arent a proper benchmark and adreno based games arent that smooth compared to PowerVR's.. have u tried games on the DHD? do u see significant difference?

well i can confirm that its really underpowered, ..... compared to Fermi

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im just afraid that neocore arent a proper benchmark and adreno based games arent that smooth compared to PowerVR's.. have u tried games on the DHD? do u see significant difference?
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Yes, the gaming sector is geared towards PowerVR as can be found on both the Galaxy S & i-Phone.
These games running on the SGS are absolutely fantastic and when you then hook it up to a large 42" LED TV it's unbelievable quality for a phone.
I do believe HTC missed a trick in not incorporating a TV Out on their flagship phone.

Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU

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Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU
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great video! all games looks smooth!

teihoata said:
Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU
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what games are those and where did you get them??

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what games are those and where did you get them??
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All the gameloft games like nova and sandstorm you have to buy from their website http://www.gameloft.com.au/android-games/top/
as they aren't sold on the market.

All the games play very smoothly, and although the sgs has a more powerful gpu android games are seemingly more optimized for Qualcomm processors, so trust me when I say games play as smooth as butter.
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All the games play very smoothly, and although the sgs has a more powerful gpu android games are seemingly more optimized for Qualcomm processors, so trust me when I say games play as smooth as butter.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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when people will understand that all the games on the market right now are based on nexus 1 as its the phone those devs are using to develope for it ?
iwas able to run all games smooth as butter on HD2.
yes the SGS GPU is much better. but it doesnt matter. no game use it. and i am a sgs owner :/

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when people will understand that all the games on the market right now are based on nexus 1 as its the phone those devs are using to develope for it ?
iwas able to run all games smooth as butter on HD2.
yes the SGS GPU is much better. but it doesnt matter. no game use it. and i am a sgs owner :/
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Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.

bratfink said:
Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.
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im not quite sure.. u have facts there but i see that games are ported from iOS (powerVR based) to android and it would be an advantage for PowerVR based phones such as motorola's and samsung.. but that is what it is used to be, now im seeing that games are ported properly for snapdragon based thus we are seeing an increase of performance compared to previously, we cant even play NFS Shift before it is ported to snapdragon phones properly..
The rumored Sony PSP phone is a snapdragon/adreno205 based.. sweet.. hopefully more devs will focus more on adreno since the number of adreno based phones is growing..

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Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.
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Not true.... Games such as those from Gameloft are initially made for the i-Phone and ported to Android. The i-Phone uses the same processor as the SGS (PowerVR).
As override182 says ~ It is up to developers to recompile for Adreno.

[Q] HD Games on Folio

Hi,
I'm looking for some HD games for Folio and I besides Dungeon and turbofly I couldn't get any to work. I'm specially looking for something like Dungeon Hunter, or Diablo, hack'n'slash I mean.
Do you know any HD game, beside this two, that will run on Folio?
Gameloft as incridible HD games but none works on Folio, because tegra2 texture compression is not supported.
This is a disapointment, as I expect that tegra 2 from nvidia had better game support and afterall it end up being one of must poorly supported platform in terms of games.
We no longer can say that tegra 2 is in its early days, almost 3 months have past since the launch and no support was added. Any new nvidia drivers to fix this issues with gameloft games. Any other publisher with HD games that run on folio.
I heard so much talking about how easy is to port the games from other platforms to tegra, but haven't seen any to this date? What's wrong with tegra?
Don't publishers like money?

Dude, have you tried Dungeon Defenders: First Wave ???
Imho this is the 1st proper game that supports Tegra 2 and runs like a candy on our Folio !!!
http://dungeondefenders.com

Yes I try it! Is a great game indeed. One think I love in this game are the graphics, but gameplay is not as good as one could expect.
I recently found a Beta version of robot defence and I must say it's awesome. Some animations are still poor but as I said is only a early stage demo of the game.
The lack of content for tegra 2 tablets is really a pain! Good games will make this things sell like hot cookies... but I guess google and nvidia are waitting to the last moment to make content available. Too sad though

I did find another great game, this time a shooter airattack HD

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I did find another great game, this time a shooter airattack HD
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What is that game called like?
Maybe we should make a 'games' topic, with in the first post a list with all perfect working game titles for our folio's

Airattack HD lite. I get it also in my ipod touch and it's a must for those who want to kill some time! Beautiful graphics, not full 3D but quite good
I will re-edit #1 post on this thread as soon I get some more games to work.
Some new games, and also some old ones are getting HD graphics. Tegra Zone will be launched soon, probably tomorrow.
Tegra 2 may result in a big fiasco if they don't launch exclusive games and apps... It's the first time I see a thing like this: launching a platform with no software, no games, nothing...
Nvidia should be more carefull. A5 from apple is on its way, samsung will have dual core soon, intel already has...

bastospn said:
Airattack HD lite. I get it also in my ipod touch and it's a must for those who want to kill some time! Beautiful graphics, not full 3D but quite good
I will re-edit #1 post on this thread as soon I get some more games to work.
Some new games, and also some old ones are getting HD graphics. Tegra Zone will be launched soon, probably tomorrow.
Tegra 2 may result in a big fiasco if they don't launch exclusive games and apps... It's the first time I see a thing like this: launching a platform with no software, no games, nothing...
Nvidia should be more carefull. A5 from apple is on its way, samsung will have dual core soon, intel already has...
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Doesnt work on my Folio (1.4)

statsminister said:
Doesnt work on my Folio (1.4)
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the game works, at LOGO screen press "HOME" once, and then "BACK" and menu appear..
same bug is seen on ElocityA7 , so its a nvidia bug in graphics driver for now..

Take a look at hexage games like buka hd or radiant hd. Really Nice and addictive, runs smoothly but not so kickass graphics like 3d or explosions.....
I'm also interested in a Hd gale topic.

Yes they are quite fine, not my kind of game though. If you have a Tegra 2 and 512 Megabytes of RAM, you will expect better. I could show this guys the kind of game that I had in my old Intel Pentium 1,3 Ghz, with no GPU by the way. So much power for nothing. A4 from Apple will not even stand against Tegra 2, but if you see the graphics...

I saw backbreaker running on a folio 100 on youtube, but when I run it (1.3d, now clean 1.4), the geraphics are pretty messed up?

The Samurai II: Vengeance was just released specifically for Tegra 2 devices.

mddsd said:
The Samurai II: Vengeance was just released specifically for Tegra 2 devices.
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Absolutly great... a real tablet game...a lot of great details in graphics, you can move control if you want etc.. . A must try!
Jp

Yes it is a most buy in every way. I love the sound and the graphics. Gameplay is great. Story line is very good.

mddsd said:
The Samurai II: Vengeance was just released specifically for Tegra 2 devices.
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Omg! That game is awesome! I really love it, it play well on our FolioMod v1.4. Thank you so much for recommending it!
So far the list of HD games that works on my Folio is:
- Air Attack HD
- Dungeon Defenders
- Samurai II Vengeance
There're other non-HD titles games but play well on Folio are:
- Fruit Ninja
- Glow Hockey
- Angry Birds
- Doodle Jump
- Ninjump
- Drift Mania
- Buka HD
- Dink HD
- Everlands HD
- Evac HD

Samurai II Vengeance 1.0
Samurai II Vengeance 1.0
I tried the game, something beautiful! and, indeed, are seen just how powerful the machine! and how good the video accelerator.

Hey you should try this one too...monster madness, tegra2 special : too expensive for me but looks very nice !!!
market.android.com/details?id=com.southpeak.monsterapp
Jp
Sorry for url i am not allowed to post one

dontmoove said:
Hey you should try this one too...monster madness, tegra2 special : too expensive for me but looks very nice !!!
market.android.com/details?id=com.southpeak.monsterapp
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Ok, market website fault.. seems the game is actually Tegra2 only!
poor support from Google's website, only showing non-tegra2 devices, when its actually tegra2 ONLY!
you need this View attachment build.zip (download attachment) to actually find it on the market, and buy/install it.
copy the build.prop (inside zip) to your /system folder and reboot.
and you find it.

is it just me or?
Why does the recently released games looks like Amiga500 from 1990?
Samurai II and Monster madness has cartoon like graphics which pretty much were fashion back in 90s when its was too hard to do better graphics and the no GPU were not capable of handling it.
is Tegra2 not better than a 90's cpu?
or should 3d games seen on other mobiles just wait, until Nvidia fixes the OpenGL ES issues, so its better supported, because its not just a port issue, its also the work tegra2 GL seems to be designed since games are still "2D"..
Thats just a thought...maybe you havent seen Amiga500 games, but they looks almost better sometimes

You are right! Some of this games are 2d only... But they are good enough to be played again and again, because they are fun. Most iPad and iPhone are just 2d because the game engine is more simple and the dev time is faster