No more Updates for X2???
Anyone know when new update for X2 scheduled?
Not really, no one from SE announced yet...
So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
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gunawan-1 said:
So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
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I understand HTC's HD2 phone, also a Windows mobile fon, is a lot better than the X2. You may check on it. Cheers.
Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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my opinion on the x2 is that it is a WinMo device. if there is something you don't like about it, change it. already i've put TF3d, over clocked it.
the stock R3XXX update was a huge improvement and slideview+ panels are brilliant.
plus 8mp camera and full keyboard does not hurt either, and because of the smaller screen the battery last longer than the hd2 and it fits easier in my pocket,
but if your looking for a new phone i would go with the hd2 just because it has attracted more people therefore there is more support for it. but its just based on preferences
Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Well, it's not really true.
Both phones got cruical updates, X2 is completely redesigned after last upgrade.
Officially SE didn't abandon anything.
However it is true they've made diastrous mistakes with X2
and pushed unfinished buggy firmwares, without any sign of improvements ATM.
i am SE mobile user for the past 6 years and wanted to always stick with SE device... but my X2 experience has changed my perception.... i will no more use SE devices... at the moment looking to get rid of my X2 and switch to iphone...
Em... I like SE phone.but this X2 make me crazy. My only hope is SE declare the next update for X2 and without anymore bugs. Of course SE should really try it first before launch to x2 user.
Nb : I really want to find and install hand writing recognition. As long as I know, PDA or PocketPC should have this feature.
I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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The mistake is bigger because this is substantially a great phone, which could be on the first line of last batch of WM devices.
I'm using it and must say love it in most part.
However it has glitches, somehow I'm able to squeeze most of it. In many ways it's great.
But the truth is they never felt on their back angry customers breath.
I think they're whether too proud and rude,
or too old fashioned in their approach.
And they reach a success with X10, so you know, no reason to panic
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I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
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If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
As for the unlock, yes I see what you are talking about. I keep pressing and nothing, nothing then all of a sudden, it slides!!!
Annoying to say the least.
Sony should make the device work out of the box. Unfortunately this is not the case. We either deal with it and come up with our own solutions or sell the X2. Too bad no wants to buy the X2 but then again I don't blame them, it is a buggy machine.
However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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All of us picked up the wrong phone. You're not alone.
Sadly, SE will not release another update. This device is absolutely dead for this company, same as X1.
Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
Cheers and good luck with this piece of crap.
xwing_5 said:
If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
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Erm. dude. I KNOW.
A solution isn't a solution when it doesn't work well. It is still a compromise. And dealing with it, is a massive compromise.
Its plain stupid that we users are compromising on our user experience on simple things. For a premium, top range phone no less.
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Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
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gunawan-1 said:
I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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I actually returned the phone to the seller on the basis that it does not offer functions as declared by the manufacturer, specifically "USB mass storage" mode. OK, it wasn't easy and I settled for somewhat less money that the phone costed me, but it was still more than the price of a used phone. But it all depends on local customs, laws and the will of seller.
Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Well actually not true.
Actually just after connecting this to PC and starting
WMDevice Center you can browse both sd card and internal memory.
In reverse X1 mass storage allows only sd card management.
To much *****ing is not sensible either.
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okay, so i read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502205
and it clearly says that that XDA dev will not support other non-HTC devices. As it stands now, X2 will NOT be MADE by HTC. So therefore X2 will not be supported by this forum. Am i correct?
i've got to say i learned a lot about windows mobile through this forum. Its amazing how all this programmer from around the world gather around and share their work to the world (freely, mind you ), and most important of all, they share the learning process of it as well. Which i thought is quite amazing really...
Back to the topic, we dont know yet what kind of OS X2 will use, it could be android, symbian, or WM. Although from some of the post that i read here, i think it will be WM anyway (6.5).
Now, i must say that XDA Dev has made X1 an even more attractive mobile phone through all the customization that we can put into it. Big props to all the cheff (itje, jackleung, just to name a few...) who put so much effort into it and made X1 such a powerful beast it is now, and also all other people who has contributed through their knowledge and skills
Sadly, if X2 does have to part its way from XDA Dev, i dont think it'll receive such a support that we have enjoyed on our X1 now...i mean, so far i don't think i've seen such a developer community as big as XDA Dev. To sum it all up, maybe i can say that XDA Dev is one of the reason why X1 is as big as it is today. I doubt anybody would buy this device if this developer site hadn't exist (bit over exaggerating on this one, but you know what i mean )
So, what do you think about it? Will X2 be such a huge hit without XDA dev?
p.s: Sorry for my really really bad english
I don't see your point. X1 is a HTC-phone and if the X2 will become also a HTC-device, I don't think that the XDA-Devs won't care about it.
There as been some thread about our expectations for the X2, but it's mainly reading in tea leaves
Wow now that you mention it, I dont even think I'm gonna upgrade to the X2 without XDA! Damn everything is here. If it wasn't for xda and W.I.N.D.L.E's X1 Proboards sites, there would have been no joy in having the Xperia!!
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I don't see your point. X1 is a HTC-phone and if the X2 will become also a HTC-device, I don't think that the XDA-Devs won't care about it.
There as been some thread about our expectations for the X2, but it's mainly reading in tea leaves
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Yes, ofcourse X1 is a HTC devices, but it has been confirmed that Sony Ericsson ended their relationship with HTC for the X2 and Sony Ericsson is going to manufacture their own phone. Therefore, i don't think X2 is a HTC device anymore....
it would still have a place in the general forum's judging how much there is in there about hp, samsung and thoshiba windows mobile devices
dont really think u need to worry about the x2 till we see it. it may not even be a wm device (although i think it will).
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it would still have a place in the general forum's judging how much there is in there about hp, samsung and thoshiba windows mobile devices
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that's nice....
But looking at how big the X1 forum's got, i dont know if all that can be put into general forums when X2 is out.
Well, i guess we'll just have to wait for the time being...cmon sony, give us a preview
Sony is seeking for a new partnership for their upcoiming heir to the X series phone
ASUS has been mentioned along with other makers
HTC really screwed it up with build quality and (cracks in case, paint peel off, etc) and SONY broke the partnership due to that quality issues
Yes I have been figuring out this question too (how would my Xperia be without XDA-DEVS), but SONY is bigger than xda-devs, HTC or all of us, they will simply go on with a new and great product
If you want a REAL measurement of SONY's influence-impact over HTC, please visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
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HTC really screwed it up with build quality and (cracks in case, paint peel off, etc) and SONY broke the partnership due to that quality issues
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I find that kind of ridiculous because imo SE is THE master of bad materials and cracks in cases and screens ITSELF.
Just remember the W960i with the broken Displays...
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I find that kind of ridiculous because imo SE is THE master of bad materials and cracks in cases and screens ITSELF.
Just remember the W960i with the broken Displays...
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or the w580i where (almost) all the keypad cracked in half after about a month or so of normal usage...
i heard that plenty of c905 (or c902?) were also being sent back because of defective speaker...
fingers crossed that X2 will have none of this problem...
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I find that kind of ridiculous because imo SE is THE master of bad materials and cracks in cases and screens ITSELF.
Just remember the W960i with the broken Displays...
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my w960i never had one problem. but i know what u mean. i have a friend that had a s500i and the keys cracked twice and another friend that had the new c905 and the call speaker broke after 2 weeks. and one more friend that has a w900i and it keeps freezing (not hardware but still a problem in se software)
Hmm... Before this becomes a 'let's bash SE' thread, I've had a W800, 810, 880, 900, 902, 910, 960, Xperia and C905 and the C905 is the only one i have unkind feelings towards... The W800 is still the Walkman phone i use.
SE lacks support but their handsets are quality and tho the X2 may end up not being as customisable/verstile as the X1 i'm still hopeful it will be a great piece of kit.
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Hmm... Before this becomes a 'let's bash SE' thread,
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okay,lets get back on track then...
so,will the X2 become a huge hit or not? since it won't have xda (officially) supporting it anymore...
come to think of it,i just realised how all those people with some other nice WM device,like omnia, can live without all the customization that we have for our X1?
surely there are some other way for customization,but it wont be as deep as our X1 got right now....
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okay,lets get back on track then...
so,will the X2 become a huge hit or not? since it won't have xda (officially) supporting it anymore...
come to think of it,i just realised how all those people with some other nice WM device,like omnia, can live without all the customization that we have for our X1?
surely there are some other way for customization,but it wont be as deep as our X1 got right now....
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TC,
I honestly see this as an utterly pointless thread. HTC will not manufacture the next Xperia, so it won't have its own section in the forums.
You're literally asking people to crystal ball the outcome for you. You want enough people here to say that it'll be a huge success in hopes that XDA will make an exception that the Xperia 2 will get its own section (or something along the lines of trying to push for an X2 forum section)? Because that's honestly the underlying message I see you trying to put out on the table.
You keep trailing on and on about "it won't have xda support" and all that jabber which brings me back to my point that all you're trying to pull in this thread is to get XDA to make an exception that a non-HTC device can have its own section.
Good day.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
I honestly see this as an utterly pointless thread. HTC will not manufacture the next Xperia, so it won't have its own section in the forums.
You're literally asking people to crystal ball the outcome for you. You want enough people here to say that it'll be a huge success in hopes that XDA will make an exception that the Xperia 2 will get its own section (or something along the lines of trying to push for an X2 forum section)? Because that's honestly the underlying message I see you trying to put out on the table.
You keep trailing on and on about "it won't have xda support" and all that jabber which brings me back to my point that all you're trying to pull in this thread is to get XDA to make an exception that a non-HTC device can have its own section.
Good day.
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well, if you read my first post carefully, i did say that i read about what the mod said about non htc device. With that in mind,do you think i would go all the way trying to push an X2 board onto xda? that would just be a waste of my time...
i am here just curious about how people will react to X2 without XDA....
thats it,nothing more,nothing less..
if you guys really think that i may have other intentions in mind,then i apologise and Moderators may close and delete this thread.
Who will get an X2 if not supported here?
i got my X1 cuz this forum/wiki... site is here, if not i would never think of it!
simply if X2 is not supported by XDA-Developers, i will get a HTC device.
yes it's that simple
I just got back a new X1 cause of a crack and I triend it with the stock rom for a while again, but I couldn't make it longer than an houre before I ran back to xda-dev and flash hard spl and Itjes rom. So i Guess I wont buy a X2 if there is no support on here, I wouldn't even have bought the X1 if there were no roms to flash.
The next SE phone will be wm6.5 and not made by HTC. The naming of the device has yet to be decided on. So in theory, the X2 could still potentially be made by HTC if all the right moons align.
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So in theory, the X2 could still potentially be made by HTC if all the right moons align.
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personally, i'd love to see this happen. HTC isn't going to screw sony up twice...that'd be ridiculous...
but thats just my dream anyway
Just feel it's a bit early to be speculating about all this when there's hardly any news about the X2. Next major phone by SE is the Idou. Haven't heard anything about the X2 in fact.
check this out:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2009/bert-letter-en.shtml
its real ,and he hits the week points of SE
"Real innovations have been substituted by dreams. As a consumer I'm offered rapidly aging and overpriced phones that have no future on the market under the guise of 'state-of-the-art solutions'. Another manifestation of the company's dishonesty was when Sony Ericsson tried to persuade me via weak PR and advertising that these were marvelous products."
end quote.
Well, this guy is nailing it! Spot on! Dishonesty is the right word. Persuasion and promises without any real world backing.
"oh looky looky the X1 with the AMAZING panels that are going to change your everyday live" - oh yeah, it's one year after that and there are a handful of them. I haven't used any of them in months.
"oh looky looky the X2 is simply amazing cutting edge device with the fantastic tile panel" - oh yeah, very amazing with the pathetic old hardware and the annoying panel that is nothing more than a gimmick and is impossible to use on a daily basis.
Haha...
Damn!! This guy's got it spot on!
@nevermind: What was that u said, SE won't be phased if they loose me as a customer? Reality check, u guys are loosing it.
Imagine a current X1 user upgrading to a X2 and realising a couple of hours down the line that he just bought a re-glorified plastic encased X1 with an 8mp camera. lol
I really digged SE but as of late I've, and apparently more SE fanbois really felt as if though we've been cheated with the X1.
So, whatcha gonna do?
With have been cheated with the X2 not X1. Also, nevermind =/= SE.
the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
Ganondolf said:
the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
Hannigan174 said:
Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
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lol. i did say i would only get a x2 if they give it to me as a free replacement so it really does not matter how much sony decides to sell it for.
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
lol where you get that???
xperia 1.5....
why not 1.8 for the 8 mpx camera.
haha sounds funny
look here
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/products/phoneportfolio
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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lets try not to be childish
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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Please provide proof and links!!
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Please provide proof and links!!
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it obviously was a sneer to SE. Not real! but seriously, if they really called it x1.5 , i would consider buying it, because it'll probably be the only phone to have such a model name/number. And perhaps, x2 is not worth the x2 name, because of the minor improvements over x1. But..... x1.5 was just a joke, c'mon...
I spent a few years with SE's UIQ phones, and a similar thing happened there. Since Sony Ericsson WAS in practice UIQ (apart from one Motorola I think), not only did they terminally underspec the UIQ terminals, they actually killed the UIQ interface, which was a real shame, since it was a very stable and efficient phone OS.
Déjà vu...
If you look at the UIQ forum on my-symbian.com, you will see similar complaints, letters published to CEOs etc. There must be some serious disconnects in SE for this to happen with their flagship range(s).
It's called greed. Also, providing as little as possible and pricing it like a NASA prototype...
...and the poster with the 1.5 was OBVIOUSLY joking...
I hope sony respond positivley to this letter and turn their act around
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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Well its their loss - we only want to help >.<
Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Well maybe they will, if the x1's keep falling appart or have other weird issue's like mines that turns blue'ish when sliding open.. the screen cable gets a bit loosy when i slide it open. ( its already been in repairs once for that issue but back then it went off instead of turning blue.. )
orelsi said:
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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...aGREED!!
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
Romani ite domum!
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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What on earth is this?
I was with a lot of doubts like you, until I see today the X10
It is THE **** of phone. The UI is ugly, and works like its running on a nintendo DS processor and 3fps, they dont have any advantage over HD2, NONE, and the release date is on march 2010 if all goes good.
not an option for me and a big fail for Sony.
i am surprised at how ugly the UI turned out. Also, the lag SHOULD be attributed to it being pre=release but it is so laggy that you have to assume some of that will make it into the final ROM
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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Considering the detailed description you gave regarding what you need your phone to do, it's obvious that the XPERIA is the phone for you.
You get the X10 and let us the HD2 gang know what you found out
I LoL'd
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
I LoL'd
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
The X10 looks like a nice phone. I personally think it looks better aesthetically than the HD2, especially in White. The UI will probably be improved before it's released and run faster than 3 FPS. The 8MP camera is also a plus, and I'd take an SE camera over an HTC camera any day.
All that being said, the HD2 has the bigger screen and the support of xda-developers
That's all I need for me to consider the HD2 better. That and SE hasn't made a good flagship phone in years! I'd bet they are going to botch up the X10 somehow and it's pretty much guaranteed to go through a few delays traditional SE style
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
Gang, this is not even a Windows Mobile device
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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pretty not much of a point to ask this question here or in Xperia X10, most of the responders here like me have had already bought over in our mind with HD2. And I would strongly recommend HD2 against Xperia X10 for many reasons, but this is entirely my preferences. I would think again if it is based on WinMO.
too bad history
lude219 said:
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
drwho? said:
I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
I consider HD2 as a Business Phone...
Sony Xperia X10 is not a Business Phone at all. It even cannot show MS exchange emails in html format...
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learn from your mistakes
salamt said:
Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
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P990, P990 ... P990 ... We got to remember our mistakeS, SE take us for idiots ... a lot of promiss, never real fix ... Let's go for phone with working software, and that is not a SonyEricsson, i got the phones in my cabinets to prove it.
I clearly remember that X1 was suppose to get Windows mobile 7 .. we don t even get Win6.5 ... so ... bye bye SE, remember your mistakeS, so many companies finish the products, no reason to buy something unfinished.
To get a working X1, we got to develope hacks ... not what i call a good consumer support.
drwho? said:
I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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i have personal experience with most of this, agreed 110%
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
Alkali said:
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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you'll have some time to find the best solution as the X10 won't be out for months - if SE are saying Q1 then that is a certainty for Q2 at the earliest...
Andoid does have the odd application that can use office files.
Facebook is pretty huge, Even SE has fan pages on there.
What better way to get them to pay attention than setting up a "not a big fan" page?
So please, everyone please join this group. The more people we get, the more they will pay attention.
Thanks to René for setting it up.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110270035673269
Joined, thanks!!!
I signed up to this forum only to express my disappointment towards SE and joined the group of unhappy X2 owners. Thanks everyone who has posted the topics about the problems with X2 so I know that I'm not the only one who felt cheated. We paid the premium price for the phone and I don't mind minor bugs but how do I suppose to rely on this device if it keeps shutting itself down for no reason whatsever after it enters the standby....
Yesterday I reached my phone to take a picture of my friends and found my phone dead... nothing more embarrassing than having to remove the battery, inserted again, asked friends to wait until this piece of crap boots up and ready to take pic.. in.. well.. .4 minutes later????
Wait. Don't forget me. I'm coming.
Spread the word, the faster we get more people the quicker we can get some sort of response from SE.
They have not bothered to even respond to the complaints in their fan page... tsk tsk!
me are disappointed with X2. Signed up in facebook group.
LOL some of you like the X1. If the X2 is better than the X1, why hate it?
poetryrocksalot said:
LOL some of you like the X1. If the X2 is better than the X1, why hate it?
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What?!
I love X1, it's fast and stable.
I would love X2 because it's really great,
but you just cannot use it properly because the device makes
it impossible bacuse of freezes.
Clear?
so, what's the difference to the x1 then?
you can't even say the x2 has better build quality yet - it's too early.
apart from that it looks like SE is playing the same game again: "who? what? oh, i see. we already have your money. sorry, you're on your own now. come back when we sell you our next flagship and have a nice day!"
If we had Custom X1 stability and ability in an X2 shell, it would be a perfect world
Finally a reply from Aaron/SE:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-37847
Heh...
Look at this video:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15371
Looks like getting HTC HD Mini also gives you problems.....
Many apps don't work there including SPB Mobile Shell!
doministry said:
Finally a reply from Aaron/SE:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-37847
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This does not look like an official answer. Why would the poster refer to SE in third person?
Biges said:
This does not look like an official answer. Why would the poster refer to SE in third person?
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What are you talking about?
He says we
like: "and we are actively looking into the messaging experience you describe"....
caliban2 said:
so, what's the difference to the x1 then?
you can't even say the x2 has better build quality yet - it's too early.
apart from that it looks like SE is playing the same game again: "who? what? oh, i see. we already have your money. sorry, you're on your own now. come back when we sell you our next flagship and have a nice day!"
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There is no difference. It is the same device. That's why I am not buying it.
There is still not a single device on the market that has the features of the X1 (keyboard, d-pad, optical mouse, winmo, softbuttons, style and looks and much more). The ones with powerful processors lack some of the features I mentioned and with the heavy customization most of us have done, my X1 can match or even perform better than brand new devices. Nuff said.
yeah, it's the same device. most important thing they've got in common is that they're from SE - which is dead for all time for me when it comes to smartphones. the x1-experience has been enough (drivers, software-support)
(apart from that my x1 is fine, i'm even SoD-free for 3 weeks now... )
you're right about the features though... it's strange that all the "big" phones, no matter what OS, nowadays lack a hw-keyboard. well, i'll find out when i get my desire - maybe soft-kb on a big screen really pleases all needs?
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-38174
LOL, I have nothing to say.
yes i'm in... hope SE will listen
ultrashot said:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-38174
LOL, I have nothing to say.
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Personally I think it is someone being stupid. Like a little 12 your old virgin with nothing better to do.
Why would Aaron be working on a Sunday?
mtechfan, yes, it something like this but it was funny that SE haven't made normal registration/authorization system in their blog.
How do you think about X2 now? I already check and still no update. Do all X2 users think no need for another update or what?
Thanks
I'm afraid that no MR3 will come, but I strongly hope for a couple of bugfix.
The phone is now stable and usable, but there is a large room for refinements.
X2 is better phone then when it first came out in january but its still noway near complete.
even if the phone was like this on january and then got a couple of updates it wouldnt justify its price unless if it would work flawlessly.
the general importer of SE for Slovenia still sells it for 550€ and galaxy I9000 costs around 600€ (I9000 got european smartphone award 2010-2011, X2 is a bad joke).
if you pay €500+ you need it for work (email and internet work fine but calls get weard sometimes and its anyoing and embarrassing) or for showoff (if you use the slideview or the panelmanager alot it will freeze soon or later and embarass you in front of people).
SE has to do what he should. if we have to pay for thair product they need to make X2 work as it should.
X2... bye-bye
Just say bye to dear X2.
Just blame myself so fool to trust this X2.
Now I am going to consider to change with X10.
Senior, Any idea the difference between X10,X10mni,X10 mini pro? Of course about the OS?
And I review to another thread, They are debating about android and apple. But in this case I never ever think of using MAC because of my own reason. But... Senior, Can some one tell what is so special about Apple 4?
Is it true about big different between Android 1.x and 2.1?
Will X10 dissapointing again like X2?
Is there another good smart phone to suggest?
Thanks.
gunawan-1 said:
Just say bye to dear X2.
Just blame myself so fool to trust this X2.
Now I am going to consider to change with X10.
Senior, Any idea the difference between X10,X10mni,X10 mini pro? Of course about the OS?
And I review to another thread, They are debating about android and apple. But in this case I never ever think of using MAC because of my own reason. But... Senior, Can some one tell what is so special about Apple 4?
Is it true about big different between Android 1.x and 2.1?
Will X10 dissapointing again like X2?
Is there another good smart phone to suggest?
Thanks.
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For me, I will never consider to ever buy a Sony Ericsson product in my life.
So, stay away for the X10, X10 mini, or whatever.
Cheers.
Jolo_ said:
For me, I will never consider to ever buy a Sony Ericsson product in my life.
So, stay away for the X10, X10 mini, or whatever.
Cheers.
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May be the problem is not SE. But it is about Microsoft or may be about WM 6.5.3.
But believe me, SE is still good phone.
gunawan-1 said:
Just say bye to dear X2.
Just blame myself so fool to trust this X2.
Now I am going to consider to change with X10.
Senior, Any idea the difference between X10,X10mni,X10 mini pro? Of course about the OS?
And I review to another thread, They are debating about android and apple. But in this case I never ever think of using MAC because of my own reason. But... Senior, Can some one tell what is so special about Apple 4?
Is it true about big different between Android 1.x and 2.1?
Will X10 dissapointing again like X2?
Is there another good smart phone to suggest?
Thanks.
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Hello friend, i'll suggest HTC Desire. If you go to the SE blog, you will see a lot of disgruntled x10 users as well. That is why SE has disappointed me so much. I therefore decided to try the HTC Desire, and i'm not regretting it at all. The device is very responsive! And the Android OS is lovely, and there are lots of free apps in their appstore. The only thing i've found disappointing about the Desire is its speaker phone. The volume is a bit too low. Apart from that, every other thing about the phone combined with the OS is just LOVELY. Cheers
In my experience, there are always dissatisfied users with any phone. If you wander into any forum here at xda, you will find different opinions.
On to android. It's a very nice operating system. It was made for touchscreens. The X10 is a great phone. Sony ericsson did a good job with 1.6 and soon will be updating to 2.1. That much is guaranteed.
With 2.1, you will get native exchange support. It will support more colors for the screen; 16m colors. You will get access to more apps that are only compatible with 2.1 and up such as google earth, advanced voice search, and other third party apps. You can have multiple google accounts and native facebook sync.
I have both the X10i and the Nexus One. I will say, hardware wise, the X10 is the better of the two. It could have used an optical track pad, but it isn't as important since I have the swype keyboard with a software dpad. The nexus one has the most software features since it has 2.2 but is buggy. I guess what I'm trying to say is the X10 is a really nice phone to use if you don't mind being a little behind with the OS version.
If you are really interested in any phone, you should hop into the different forums and get a feel for each phone from what people are posting about it.
Thanks to all friends. I just buy X10. hohohoh. very responsive. I like that. The sound is too low but clear. Still upgrading. The style is very exclusive. I like that. but... don't know yet.
But one thing is upsetting, no video call.
Just like what I imagine. No update till now. May be SE confuse how to upgrade more with this phone. hohohoh.... May be they have given the best shot to this phone. And last word is : "SORRY".
But from deep in my heart, I really disappointed with X2, I feel being cheated.
After I change to X10, many things is different. in many aspects, X10 is different.
My opinion, X10 is my phone. just meet my expecting.
considering to the: design, responsiveness, camera, connection, features, display, etc.
Nb: Friends, try consider X10. You will not disapoint.