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How thick is the EVO going to be?

Just wondering how thick it's going to be compared to the Iphone.
My friend keeps saying my Hero's clunky cause it half a milimeter thicker than his sh!t iphone.
Yes, he's jealous my LWP's

It's still .03 inches thicker than the iPhone 3GS.
Here is a site to compare:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-EVO-4G-phone-size-compare-pc_4382.html

Your friend can feel the difference of .5mm? hmm makes me wonder what else he can feel that small? LOL
Sounds like some kind of envy...
Anywho...Of you have held a phone in a slider case like an INcase of Casecrown slider case then you will get a sense of what it would feel like. Go to Tomobile and hold an HTC HD2 and then think of a rounder back. It's not much difference. I think it the larger back will actually give it a better feel.

mrmomoman said:
Your friend can feel the difference of .5mm? hmm makes me wonder what else he can feel that small? LOL
Sounds like some kind of envy...
Anywho...Of you have held a phone in a slider case like an INcase of Casecrown slider case then you will get a sense of what it would feel like. Go to Tomobile and hold an HTC HD2 and then think of a rounder back. It's not much difference. I think it the larger back will actually give it a better feel.
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I had a flexishield on my hero, and he though that was the actual phone, and then we laid them side by side without cases, and kept running his finger a long it. he wouldn't settle that they both where about the same.
Let alone to say he thinks that the iPhone has a better processor than the N1.

chococrazy said:
I had a flexishield on my hero, and he though that was the actual phone, and then we laid them side by side without cases, and kept running his finger a long it. he wouldn't settle that they both where about the same.
Let alone to say he thinks that the iPhone has a better processor than the N1.
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my apple friends are soo annoying sometimes and they dont even own iphones >_< ooh all these companys are copying apple, apple was the first, the nexus one is copying the shape of the iphone and the look, they revolutionized it bla bla bla
my nexus one has a faster, better looking, they werent the first touch screen and even if they were Ford was the first car but an Audi is a million times better, if anything iphone is copying everyother phone out there by adding multi tasking, copy paste, video camera, and compass while other phones had that for years
i dont hate the iphone i like it, its a nice device with a great appstore, but the iphone owners can be a bunch of arrogant douche bags >/

chococrazy said:
I had a flexishield on my hero, and he though that was the actual phone, and then we laid them side by side without cases, and kept running his finger a long it. he wouldn't settle that they both where about the same.
Let alone to say he thinks that the iPhone has a better processor than the N1.
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At some point you have to just BEAT HIM j/k. I understand that some people even if you tell them they are standing out in the rain they will tell you it is just a few sprinkles.

other than the unreleased hummingbird, isnt the snapdragon currently the fastest processor available?
prove me wrong?

Overall thoughts to those that have had time with the phone

Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?

tintingkc said:
Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?

Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.

BlackOtaku said:
Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Yeah it lagged for me too, only when I was transferring though, safe to assume it was just that. As for the call quality, I find it very good, no complaints here.
Sent from my Nexus S

My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??

I think it is AWESOME!

coming from a nexus one
LOVE
4" SAMOLED screen especially outside
speed
TRUE multi touch
seems like it has better building penetration for reception
HATE
no notification light
no 2nd microphone for noise cancellation

slowz3r said:
I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Calls sound digitized and buzzy. I sound find to the other party but my side sounds too processed. My Vibrant and N1 are clear with no artifacts. Will swap it out when stock is back up and give it a second chance.

Poor reception in my area at the house. AT&T full bars, on T-Mobile, my bars go from full to 0 to 3, it's just weird, I can just sit here and see it move around.
3G not so great here either. Both these issues is with Cell Coverage, so not really phone related.
No Notification Light is still a big annoying. noLED helps a little but that software needs some major tweaking/options for me to completely like it.
Gingerbread 2.3 keyboard: Stock 2.2 you can swipe left to right to engage voice, no such feature in 2.3, and the mic icon (if you want voice) replaces the comma button , if you turn off the mic icon, comma appears, but now you can't engage voice sigh. Bring back swipe for voice please Google.
Screen is incredible. 100x better than Nexus One. Even in daylight. Only complaint is that it's TOO DAMN BRIGHT.... fixed with the app Screen FIlter.
Web browsing zooming in/out is a bit laggy and not as smooth as I'd like.
No issues on call quality to and from.
I like that the power button is on the side. The external speaker is amazing, huge upgrade form the Nexus One. So much louder and fuller.
I'm coming off a CyanogenMod Nexus One, and happy as heck the Nexus S got rooted first day. I've running everything I need/want on the Nexus S right now. No hiccups from switching from Nexus One CM6.1

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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
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I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<

Anderdroid said:
I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
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same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol

azzeh3 said:
same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
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I think I'm gonna try haxxing the keyboard and making it higher lol.

Yeah if you work it let me know man pm me or something lol
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slowz3r said:
I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.

I've had no issues with mine at all. This phone has been pure winfor me!

Mactagonist said:
Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
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My dad is on his second NS. Everything he moves (walks or driving) while on a call the person on the other end will start hearing the call being choppy.

So far, my phone has been great.
I only have two complaints about the Nexus S:
- I wish they had used some kind of text coating on the casing to give it a bit of extra grip. The phone, when I first handled it, was really slick.
- There's the ever so slight separation between the glass and casing at the edges that can, will, and does attract dust/dirt/whatevs.
And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.

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And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha

azzeh3 said:
They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.

unremarked said:
I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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It might seem minor, but it really drives people up the wall. My girlfriend decided against upgrading from her N1 to the NS solely because "What? They changed the key layout? Why would they do that?" And she is no dummy, (PHD in organic chem) she could easily adapt in a day or two. But ppeople really value consistency. The proper button order should be part of the Android specs and not left up to the whims of every 2 bit company using Android.

Evo's are Backordered...

So I just got Sprint to put in for a new (well, or refurbed) EVO for me, and unfortunately they are back ordered. The guy I talked to seemed to have no clue how long it will be before they receive my replacement. Are any of you guys in the same boat and does anyone have any info on how long it might be? This Samsung Rant isn't really the phone I'd like to be using haha. Thanks.

Everytime they told me refurbs were backordered, I still got them within 3 days. I can pretty much guarantee you it wont be more than 2 weeks, at the very most.

That would be awesome if it is only three days, maybe i'll have it by wednesday or so. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I have reason to be optimistic!

They said that to me that a few weeks ago and told me since we have no refurbs we have to give you a new one. This was the sales leader in the store so I guess if you know the rules you may be able to get a new one if you give them a nudge.

looks like sprint is having a lot of problems with the quality of the htc evo, is a nice phone but the quality is bad. Is made for Sprint, that is why.

No, they are on back order because Sprint was covering physical damage. People were destroying their phones.
The policy changed yesterday, so recon stock should start to level out again.

The rep told me the same thing. A lot of people have been calling in about dust under the screen on the top left recently. Apparently its an issue only seen later on in the life of the device. HTC is really disappointing me.

dmora01 said:
looks like sprint is having a lot of problems with the quality of the htc evo, is a nice phone but the quality is bad. Is made for Sprint, that is why.
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I'll take the bait... I think the Evo is on par or if not better quality than any other similar device. Truth is, whatever went wrong with my Evo was probably my own fault.

took me 5 days to get my replacement

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I'll take the bait... I think the Evo is on par or if not better quality than any other similar device. Truth is, whatever went wrong with my Evo was probably my own fault.
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HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.

I just added my wife to my account today and ordered an evo... no problems here
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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Got to love that anecdotal evidence. My HTC has been great, therefore it is the best phone on the market.
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I had that dust under the left top corner of the screen a couple months ago and sprint replaced the glass. Then I bricked my phone like an idiot and was to impatient to recover it so I filed an insurance claim and they overnighted me one. Brand new. Now I have 2 but not sure what to do with the old one.
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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maybe you need to make that switch to verIzon then... ive owned 3 htc phones (tilt, touch pro and evo) and never had problems with build quality or hardware issues. i use all my phones for work and i have dropped, stepped on, sat on, used in the rain and countless other acts of neglect and every time picked the phone up and made a phone call with it

First, to the OP, I've been told by store personnel, that it is STORE POLICY that they *HAVE* to give you a brand new one if refurbs are backordered and they have new ones in stock at the store. Don't let them weasel out on you, and you get left holding a backordered, smelly ol' refurb. And yes, I've had refurbs that STUNK to high heaven of perfume.
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Every HTC device I've owned has failed from QC issues, usually multiple times.
My 6700 and 6800 both succumbed to key failures on the keyboard. I tried the usual fixes (contact cleaner, vigorously "massaging" the keys), but nothing worked and a keyboard where 1/3 of the keys are dead is useless. When I got my Touch Pro, brand new in the box, two of the keys cracked off onto my lap while he was activating it - the Best Buy sales person was horrified and got me a new one. A few months later, the external Back/End button kept creeping higher and higher until it fell off. The replacement would reboot every few minutes, so that one went back too. Then my brand new Hero had an unresponsive Menu button, didn't notice that until I got home though. Swapped it out for a new one, the new one had dust pouring in the bottom left corner (if I remember correctly) after about a month, then the vibrator stopped working. Had to RMA that one, the replacement was shipped to my door, and the trackball was GONE - not even in the box, just simply gone! The replacement for that had a squishy "OK" (trackball press) button, but I just lived with it. My original Evo had cracks in the body (power button, and near the volume buttons), the screen was separating to the point where it'd get caught in my pocket, the microUSB port was flaky and required me to plug it in, rest it just right on my desk, then lay something on the connector to keep downward weight on it. The replacement had huge spots on the display, and eventually the touchscreen completely failed on that one.
I could go on and on, but I'm too tired right now. People can think whatever they want, accuse me of exaggerating or lying, but I'll just laugh - hysterically laugh - at the thought of anyone saying HTC has anything but mediocre quality.
I should also point out I've never dropped a device in my life - I'm fastidious, almost to an Adrian Monk-like degree, and pamper my devices. There was NO reason for them to fail the way they did, other than poor QC on HTC's part.
I'd still buy an HTC device though because of the hacker friendliness, but anyone who thinks they're a particularly high quality company is crazy.

admorris said:
Got to love that anecdotal evidence. My HTC has been great, therefore it is the best phone on the market.
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DJ_Bizarro said:
maybe you need to make that switch to verIzon then... ive owned 3 htc phones (tilt, touch pro and evo) and never had problems with build quality or hardware issues. i use all my phones for work and i have dropped, stepped on, sat on, used in the rain and countless other acts of neglect and every time picked the phone up and made a phone call with it
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The widgets I use make Android too practical to switch from.
There is no way you can say with a straight face that the EVO has a higher build quality than the iPhone.
'Never had any problems' seems to be incredibly highly subjective on the forums.

dreamliner330 said:
The widgets I use make Android too practical to switch from.
There is no way you can say with a straight face that the EVO has a higher build quality than the iPhone.
'Never had any problems' seems to be incredibly highly subjective on the forums.
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so go buy the iphone and stop crying about your build quality

I have owned two HTC phones. My Hero was used for a year, no hardware issues what-so-ever (sold it in perfect condition for almost what I paid for it). My wife and I got Evo's at Christmas. Her iphone 3g had three returns because of hardware failures. The Evo's on the other hand have been great and neither of use use a protective case. I am fairly particular and take good care of my gadgets.
F*** apple and their stupid I in front of words.

My Apache and Mogul and tp2 were all good solid phones. Whoever is nom nom noming apples balls so hard on build quality, remember that the iPhone are a sealed deal, non removable battery. The only thing that comes close is the Eco and Droid x. Eitherway there is no reason a company couldn't make a non serviceable Android loaded phone with identical build quality. Fact OS only Apple is retarded / brilliant enough to seal a phones components.
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality.
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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yeah... except when you hold it wrong!
nice attempt at trolling.

4 inches just isn't enough for me...That's what SHE said!

I played with several 4 inch screen devices and it was JUST TOO SMALL! Now, I'm considering screen size > 4 inches pretty much as a MUST have option.
I'm considering devices like the Acer Liquid (with the 4.8 inch screen) and the Samsung SGH-i997 Infuse 4G (yea right ATT!!) which has a 4.5 inch super AMOLED.
Am I the only one who's been SPOILED ROTTEN by the Streak's 5 inches ????

Nope, I'm right there with you. Those 4" screens, now, appear too small for my eyes.

My wife's Captivate seems tiny when I pick it up. I am really glad I got the Streak.

My Nexus One just seems TINY in my hands now. I love that ppl ask "what is that thing" and I have to explain that it can make phone calls! LOL.
And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.

nickshertzer said:
... And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.
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Ditto. I was <b>extremely</b> disappointed when I found out the Galaxy Tab didn't have a phone in it. Put phone capability in that puppy and that would be the perfect phone for me.

Yes, Size Does Matter
I can TROOLY testify to that. Once I got my grabby hands on The Streak, there's no going back to anything with a smaller screen. I tried using my old HTCTilt2, just couldnt do it.

RicoATT said:
I can TROOLY testify to that. Once I got my grabby hands on The Streak, there's no going back to anything with a smaller screen. I tried using my old HTCTilt2, just couldnt do it.
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Exactly, I experienced the same.
One day I went to phones market, the seller tried to offer me Galaxy Tab, I said it is too big. He offered me Samsung Ace, I said it is tooo small and asked him, do you have something in the middle. Defiantly, he replied no it is not available (because dell is not available in my area). Then I showed my sweet pretty dell. .
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I love that ppl ask "what is that thing"
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Lol, I love this as well.

nickshertzer said:
My Nexus One just seems TINY in my hands now. I love that ppl ask "what is that thing" and I have to explain that it can make phone calls! LOL.
And to be sure, if there were a 5.5" phone, hell, maybe even 6" if it would fit in my pocket, I would jump all over it.
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I love the size of the streak. I would not go to anything smaller. It would have to be 5 inches or bigger but still pocketable.
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I agree with you guys,I freaking love when I go to the bar sometimes and enjoy my drink and my Streak.It is so much fun to get online with it or when I am on my recliner at home,my wife used to make fun of me but now when she sees her little android phone she thinks is so small.Even people at work don't make fun of me at all,I let them play with it and now they are all jealous.
I am extremely happy with the rooted Streak and I don't think I could go with anything smaller that 5'.Now I am just waiting for Netflix someday just to make it even better.

Mine seems to get smaller everyday.
Im looking for a 7" (scrren size), hopefully not more than 8" overall; for a tabletphone. Streak 7 has an article with amazons upcoming releases, it says a Samsung and Acer 7" device both with Froyo in March/April 2011. Anyone heard more about these devices
Ideally I would love to have the front mostly all screen, with minimum rom for buttons, mic and front cam etc.
other wishes for my 7" dream phone: 1.2 ghz dual core, 1gb ram, HD graphics, 1200x800 res. , HD front and back cams, oh yeah and 4G whenever AT&T upgrades.

pros and cons either way..
i will say..when i have been geeking on the streak for a week or so and switch back to my hd2 it feels like a novelty item or toy...lol
but truth be told i am not a LARGE man...so the streak is a bit much for a pocket or day to day calling... at least for me..that and the camera flash is pathetic...the camera is ONLY good in well lit or daylight shooting...
NOTE TO DELL..if you want to sell and manufacture phones... use a good camera and music player...
if you cant get either of those right just hang it up .....

All phones are to small now i love my streak

I'm sure you have experienced this one. I use a BT 100% of the time. I'm constantly for work reasons, on the phone, and have to look something up. Most of the time, when I hang up, someone will say "is that your phone"? And they they say "hey xxxxxx", come look at this, THIS is a phone!
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".

p51d007 said:
I'm sure you have experienced this one. I use a BT 100% of the time. I'm constantly for work reasons, on the phone, and have to look something up. Most of the time, when I hang up, someone will say "is that your phone"? And they they say "hey xxxxxx", come look at this, THIS is a phone!
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".
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every single day it gets old sometimes because i hate people touching my phone

Ppl say my phone is so big ...i tell em theres is too small
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p51d007 said:
Most of the time, it gets passed to 2-3 people that have to put their phone on top of the screen and say "his screen is bigger than my entire phone".
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so true. i dont get why something bigger seems to boggle people's mind that it can also make calls, shouldnt the bigger it be, the more functionality since the pcb inside has more room for chips? lol

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so true. i dont get why something bigger seems to boggle people's mind that it can also make calls, shouldnt the bigger it be, the more functionality since the pcb inside has more room for chips? lol
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....size does matter

ameiurus said:
Ditto. I was <b>extremely</b> disappointed when I found out the Galaxy Tab didn't have a phone in it. Put phone capability in that puppy and that would be the perfect phone for me.
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I'm liking the Streak for it's pocketability, not so much for the screen size. I had a Galaxy Tab and it does have a phone in it, it's just disabled by default in North America. I flashed a ROM on it to make the phone work and was using it all winter.
The only problem is it's only speakerphone without a Bluetooth(SpaceMan)Headset.
Besides a 7" Device would look kinda stupid being held up to your head.
I do miss the HUGE 4000mAH Battery though. Better screen resolution too.

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I stop letting people FONDLE mine since I saw this guy at the urinal "doing his thing" with his phone in the OTHER hand, then...
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HE SWITCHED HANDS!!!!!

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I stop letting people FONDLE mine since I saw this guy at the urinal "doing his thing" with his phone in the OTHER hand, then...
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HE SWITCHED HANDS!!!!!
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Love to see his face if "it" fell into the urinal with the rest of his business

I would LOVE an iPhone 5...if it ran Android

I hate Apple, and I always will. I will never buy from Apple or support it at all...but I really wish there where Android phones that had the same hardware quality as Apple. I love my Atrix, but squeeze it, it creaks. The back is flimsy, the camera lens scratches and its all soo plasticity, and a lot of Android phones are like this. All plastic, creaky, and over all compare to Apples phones, just horribly cheep feeling. I love Android an would never move to Apple, but I still would really love an Android phone that matched iPhone 4/4s or especially iPhone 5 quality. Just don't think it'll ever happen though, sadly.

That's why hardware-wise, Apple will always dominate in that category.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise. Take off your green colored glasses if you disagree.
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This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.

nerfman100 said:
This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
Sent with my Nexus 7
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Yeah, not perfect.. just cut with diamonds and lasers n **** xD
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.

Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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That's very true. Nokias are built like tanks. And a lot of iphones owners have their screens cracked.
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Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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The part that cracks is maybe 3$ to replace online. 2 screws at the bottom. People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.

Atrix is actually a very nice compromise between aesthetics and tank phone. Part of the process when I pick a phone is how it looks and feels. A case changes that. Its not about looking cool or showing off. That implies I give a damn what others think.. I digress. Be ninja. Your phone is too important to drop, not to mention too damned expensive, but atrix can take it.
I've seen people holding cracked iPhones too.. usually they're also holding a joint and a skateboard. Or five things in each hand while simultaneously trying to make a call. can't blame that on apple fellas
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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There's a big difference between a completely shattered screen vs a small flake of paint coming off of my phone from a 4 foot drop. I had an iphone 3g that the screen was completely shattered and the back shell cracked from tripping over a rock and my iphone flung. Had the same thing happen with my atrix and just a lil paint came off (and my atrix bounced and hit the side of my house) neither had cases.... moral of the story drunk txting is bad
But yeah anyway, iphones dont have the best track record when it comes to hardware durability and I want to know where you're buying a screen shipped for $3 that's as good of quality as the origional... and to your comment about the iphone 4g, I've had a sales rep sit on his brand new iphone 4gs and it shattered his screen (again no case was on the phone). I've done that several times with my atrix and a nokia with no issues.
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nerfman100 said:
No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.
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This is what I thought until I dropped the phone from chest hight onto a concrete car park floor. Gorilla glass is structurally very tough and flexible but doesn't like impact and will break along micro scratches caused by leaving your phone face down on any gritty surface. I just got a black tpu case that has a nice lip around the screen edges but is otherwise nice and discrete. I can use my lapdock fine as it fits perfectly with the connections after removing the plastic tray and it cost me around £2. I love not having a case but it's so damn hard locating good replacement digitizers for the atrix I would rather play it safe.
As for apple hardware, it does seem pretty good quality, the I phone 4/s had a really nice weight to it and I have no doubt that the new device will feel more solid than most devices on the marked (excluding the lumia devices ) how this relates to their ruggedness I'm not sure (putting a glass back on a phone really is stupid ) still I would love a sapphire crystal over my camera lense! Android manufacturers really do need to up the quality though, a phone goes with you everywhere and needs to be fairly rugged. Although the Atrix is pretty decent I do wish it was more solid.
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You can consider Razr series for the best build quality. Backcase made by kevlar and housing full of metal.

Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/

MewRai95 said:
Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/
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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Since this a topic about iPhone vs Atrix 4G, I would like to have your opinion on the following. Currently I am not flowing with cash, and I have an iPhone 3G - I saw the Atrix 4G 16GB unlocked on ebay for like 228 (I am in Brazil so hence the unlock) So is the Atrix 4G a good phone (better than my 3G?) Can it run ICS or Jellybean thru custom roms off course, and how is it's gaming power?
Thanks

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Well if want Android on iPhone that's the closest you're are ever going to get. Anyway it isn't even that bad, considering the screen is up to retina standards and has pretty good specs such as a Tegra 3. Anyway disregarding the fact that it's a fake iPhone, I bet the build quality is pretty good.
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andrew.cambridge said:
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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Me. It honestly depends what your intended use of a phone that is the final decision in this case. If you just want a phone that simply works, an IPhone is better, because its very limited in area to improve. Lots of restrictions, developer-wise.
If being able to improve performance in multiple aspects; Android all the way. What does the IPhone really offer when jailbroken? Tweaked themes? Sure, you can unlock it to be used on other carriers...but who wants just 3G?
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HTC dominates in build quality too. My old Aria was perfect in build quality to me. I have never had a phone that had like problems with the hardware. I have always gotten lucky and gotten a phone that was made well!
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Yeah, Crapple will always dominate in the crapPhone category.
Others are welcome to create their own categories which they do pretty well.
My fem uses her very special HTC Evo 3D. I want to see Crapple capable of creating a kind of similar device. Next century eventually?