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Rooting Rogers HTC Dream

Hello,
Is it possible to root the HTC Dream from rogers yet? I just purchased one yesterday and I am not sure if the procedure is the same as for the T-Mobile G1.
Thanks

I too would like more information on this. Thanks in advance.

Dream...
I believe the Dream and the G1 are actually the same devices. So what you can do to one, should also apply to the other.

I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.

I wouldn't use the DREAIMG.NBH rooting procedure on the Rogers Dream. If I recall correctly, it includes a radio image (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, you wouldn't want to try to flash the radio from the G1 to your Rogers version that uses different frequencies.
I would venture a guess that the method Haykuro used to root the Sapphire would work, and should be safe to try even if it doesn't. Go here:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
I got that from a post in the Sapphire forum here on XDA Developers.
The key is to flash the recovery image with the rooted recovery image. I don't know what difference there may be between the magic and dream recovery images - you may want to grab the modified recovery image specifically for the dream and use it instead of the one on the wiki page.
Wish I had a Rogers Dream so I could try it. If any of you with this handset try it, post the result here!

silverchris said:
I am curious to try the G1 procedure, but I am wondering a few things... Biggest thing is if rogers would be using the same key to sign the updates? and second is if downgrading to rc29 would brick my phone.
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I'm wondering this too. I'm not new to flashing devices etc but THIS is all new to me lol ... I found more info on This page that also explains about the radio however, I'm not sure what all applies or how things change with the Rogers phone. The more I read the more confused I get. One site said follow the link above and you wont have any problems, another said dont follow the site in order but do the radio first then flash the SPL.
Can someone please confirm the steps required to root the Rogers phone and then flash haykuro's ROgers ROM please? I just dont want to brick my device if at all possible (not that anyone really wants to brick their phones).
THanks guys!!

I am going to see if I can boot any of the recovery images without flashing them. I read in a thread thats possible....

None of the recovery images I've tried will boot on my device, Haykuro told me he's working on a solution with dream_kill to root this device.

So it can't be rooted yet?

Awwww I was hoping to put hero on

evilpig said:
Awwww I was hoping to put hero on
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ya we must be patient.
i don't do that so well

the waiting game
I will be waiting as well. Though as soon as the US rooting procedure failed for me, I felt like Rogers had just bent me over and shoved a big rusty sand covered......you get the idea. Was it not enough to put Rogers logos all over the phone, but you had to take away our rooting ability's as well? How sad. But I like the phone too much to take it back Oh well, wait and hope for the best
All you guys (and girls) working on this, you totally rock!

Well, guess we're all in the same boat. I have been reading some of the other threads though, seems like maxawesome, has the Rogers Dream version, and had success rooting and flashing a few days ago, maybe he could share? Looks as though he is the first and possibly only to get root so far for rogers. I tried sending a pm to him, but not sure it went through. You should try, he has some posts in the "rogers rom" thread, just doesn't indicate which SPL version he ended up using.

I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Lets just hope we get to rooting our phones soon!

Just a suggestion: Perhaps you Canadians can try the goldcard method used for non-US/UK Dreams described in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
EDIT: Sorry, I forgot that the updated SPL may cause bricking when the older radio is used. Please disregard this post!

Wasn't it just the haykuro modified spl that caused bricking? Of course, there is more to the radio on this device, even if it doesn't brick it, may result in a non-functional radio (until the correct radio is put back).

Work in progress
I see haykuro is working on it here
More waiting and searching.

Any other updates on where haykuro (or anyone else working on this) is at?

i think haykuro is looking for a device but its still hard to find in USA.

hrmmm ... wonder if we can put a call out and some extremely generous Canadian can send one to him ... seriously if I had a way to get my hand on another one without having to fork out $700 I'd totally contribute a phone

Can the OTA update be rooted?

I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?

This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.

thats because one doesnt exist.

Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695

the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.

Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.

nenn said:
thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.

Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)

seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.

I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695

or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915

which one of those work?

I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.

Hi all I'm new

Need help to root my evo4g so I can use roms ect.... plz help
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Go Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245 read, learn, execute.

Helpful Threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
First, read all of the threads above.
Then, after you find out what your firmware version is, read the threads below.
Also, make sure you use the search button, it's your friend. Welcome to XDA
1.47.651.1 ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Original Firmware ROOT method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701004

Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.

Plancy said:
Well since this is here, I'd like to throw in a question about root.
Does a simple root allow the user to uninstall applications?
Here's another one.
Does the latest OTA root method require a previous root.
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Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.

I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol

Globetrahter said:
I am new as well, I think this is my first post. I waited to get the White Evo and got an RSS Feed that people were getting them early.........then Best Buy called me so I will have my phone today, already have a folder at home called Android and bookmarks to certain things on here lol
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Welcome new peeps just make sure you read thoroughly before doing anything to your phone make sure you fully understand all steps involved and everything will work out fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245

Chopper64 said:
Nice thread hijack...
A. If you're referring to unrEVOked(2) and the preinstalled sprint apps, then no, i don't think it does. Sprint apps are not in "user-land" and i believe require NAND unlock (full root) to uninstall.
B. No, you can do this with a stock phone with the OTA update installed.
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The answers could help the OP.
A. That blows.
B. Cool!

Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol

brownhornet said:
Sprint must be finally getting more phones in... noticed a good bit of newcomers lol
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Damnit, exclusivity is going out the window!! I'm gonna return my phone now.
D Sorry trying to come up with any negatives for my new Lovely Evoline...)

Thanks for the Link

I have Atrix ver 1.7.5, how can i root it and update it to latest build?

Hello Everyone,
I have a motorola atrix which was given to me by my friend in usa as a gift, And it has a software version of 1.7.5 , I want to update my phone, but i cannot find the guide for rooting this version of firmware and updating it. Is this version unique? wherever i search i only get guides for other versions.
And one more thing, I live in nepal, and i am using my sim card, but if i update the phone will it be carrier locked?
Thanks in advance.

Screenshot
Oh, and one more thing, i have taken a picture of the phone screen, I've attached it.
Sorry for the crappy photo.

First off, this should go in the Q&A section. Second there is a Sticky Thread at the top of this section geared toward NOOBs...you should go back and read it, it has all the info you need.

Sorry for posting here. And regarding that N00b guide, i read it all, and from what i know i think the method for rooting different versions of firmware are different right? and there is no mention for the version that i am using. So i just wanted a little guidance.

v-nay said:
Sorry for posting here. And regarding that N00b guide, i read it all, and from what i know i think the method for rooting different versions of firmware are different right? and there is no mention for the version that i am using. So i just wanted a little guidance.
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This method works on all phones:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root
p.s. Your screenshot says you have 2.2.2 ATT Atrix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Meaning you can use pretty much any root method - Gingerbreak, Gladroot, preinstall, and CWM root after you unlock the phone.

The auto unlock/root method works wonderfully on our US devices
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15930466
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Questions on rooting

Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.

michael9441 said:
Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.
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I'm not sure about the MF3 update. I think it probably is still rootable as the Canadian devices don't have a locked bootloader, but somebody else should confirm this. I never updated my Bell S4, because i know on the MDL it atleast works for sure, and when installing custom ROMS, you can atleast be always updated to the build of the custom ROM regardless.
I think you are fine though, i would look for the motochopper thread, and i think it would have a warning if there was any incompatibility with a certain build.
And for removing root, its simple. Use triangle away to reset your flash counter, and you can just unroot (if on stock) or odin flash to go back to stock.

Monkz said:
I'm not sure about the MF3 update. I think it probably is still rootable as the Canadian devices don't have a locked bootloader, but somebody else should confirm this. I never updated my Bell S4, because i know on the MDL it atleast works for sure, and when installing custom ROMS, you can atleast be always updated to the build of the custom ROM regardless.
I think you are fine though, i would look for the motochopper thread, and i think it would have a warning if there was any incompatibility with a certain build.
And for removing root, its simple. Use triangle away to reset your flash counter, and you can just unroot (if on stock) or odin flash to go back to stock.
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Yes there is a new method that came out about 2 weeks ago. Can any issues arise with it being such a new method? Sorry I'm more familiar with pc software and new sometimes has bugs, problems, etc. Motochopper doesn't work, I tried it but it just says root successful and when i try to use a rooted app it says my phone isn't rooted. As for flashing roms with odin do you know any good websites that have have a list of them and reviews, etc. Also what happens if i accept an ota update when rooted?

Questions go in Q&A. Check out this guide. Read up. Cheers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494

Rooting ATT Galaxy S4 But Why Bother?
michael9441 said:
Hi everyone, first time posting, but I usually look around the forums every now and again. I was planning to root my s4 from Fido. I never rooted or had experience with it but I'd like to do it. I have a few questions about it first though. Since I already downloaded the Mf3 update, is the newest root method safe? I also got the protection plan from future shop which I'd like to keep since my old phone did break and i used it to get my s4. I doubt it covers a rooted phone, so is there any way to reset it back to original factory settings or make it look like it, if i need to bring it back to them. (my last phone stopped recognizing micro sd cards) And are custom roms better than the stock? I read about how they are like a complete new OS for the phone and completely changes how the device feels. Thanks for any help.
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Apparently ATT has locked the bootloader which means essentially that you can root all you want BUT you can't flash anything to the phone without bricking the phone. At this point, there is no way to flash this phone how you want it for the average Joe. But I ran across an article that describes how ATT has programmed this to prevent the average Joe meaning probably 98% of us from messing with the firmware. Apparently someone has succeeded in cracking this. Why can't our illustrious developers do the same? No disrespect intended here because we have some of the best such as Chainfire and Mark Skippen and others. Anyway here is the link to the article I ran across. Hope this info helps someone.:good:
http://threatpost.com/researcher-unlocks-samsung-galaxy-s4-bootloader-for-att-verizon-android-phones
Developers please take note! :good:

AHLASSICH said:
Apparently ATT has locked the bootloader which means essentially that you can root all you want BUT you can't flash anything to the phone without bricking the phone. At this point, there is no way to flash this phone how you want it for the average Joe. But I ran across an article that describes how ATT has programmed this to prevent the average Joe meaning probably 98% of us from messing with the firmware. Apparently someone has succeeded in cracking this. Why can't our illustrious developers do the same? No disrespect intended here because we have some of the best such as Chainfire and Mark Skippen and others. Anyway here is the link to the article I ran across. Hope this info helps someone.:good:
http://threatpost.com/researcher-unlocks-samsung-galaxy-s4-bootloader-for-att-verizon-android-phones
Developers please take note! :good:
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"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?

My Sincere Apologies!
scott14719 said:
"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?
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Thank you for setting me straight. I will take your advise seriously. I have read and read through the forums and I never saw this information. I suppose I will get the hang of it. I will try to be a little more diligent in my research from now on. I did not realize what a pinned thread was and I will certainly check there first from now on. I dare say it is very difficult to follow the tracks on the different posts to arrive at a correct conclusion. Very convoluted especially for a noob like me!

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Thank you for setting me straight. I will take your advise seriously. I have read and read through the forums and I never saw this information. I suppose I will get the hang of it. I will try to be a little more diligent in my research from now on. I did not realize what a pinned thread was and I will certainly check there first from now on. I dare say it is very difficult to follow the tracks on the different posts to arrive at a correct conclusion. Very convoluted especially for a noob like me!
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No problem. Part of the difficulty (as you stated) is the fact that this forum (AT&T S4) is fragmented and hard to follow. There are several different carriers with several different firmwares all being represented in one forum. That is why the pinned threads are so important. The people who maintain those threads put a lot of time into them and make sure they are constantly updated. The Q & A forum is nearly useless (besides the pinned threads in it) due to the repetitive questions clogging it up. And people not following forum rules make the other sub forums difficult to use.
Most (99%) of all of the questions people come here to ask have already been addressed (usually several times) but people don't take the time or effort to read the answers, they come here to make another post about the same stuff over and over again, which causes even more confusion.
So, if you follow the pinned threads, and a few of the threads that tend to stay towards the top of the "General" section, you will be up to date on most things dealing with the S4s covered in this forum. Good luck.

scott14719 said:
"Why can't our illustrious developers do the same"
Developers please take note!
Why are you posting an old topic. You should take note... LOKI was the method used to side step the locked bootloader on MDB and MDL firmware. This was well known in this forum and there is information about it all over. Loki still works with MDB and MDL firmware, however, the MF3 OTA (AT&T) patched the exploit that was used with LOKI. There are entire threads dedicated to the subject in the AT&T S4 forums. Trying to help people is a good thing but spreading completely out of date information can do nothing but cause confusion and harm.
I can only suggest that you start in the "General" and "Q & A" sections and read the "pinned" threads so you can update yourself on information before you make any other posts. You can find links to important posts in those "pinned" threads that will help bring you up to speed.
To the OP, only AT&T and Verizon S4s have a locked bootloader, you said you are on 'FIDO", so are you sure you are on MF3?
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I think I am on mf3 since i got the most recent update from Fido. I thought that all updates are the same for the carriers that use the spectrum.

michael9441 said:
I think I am on mf3 since i got the most recent update from Fido. I thought that all updates are the same for the carriers that use the spectrum.
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Check and see what your baseband / firmware says it is in "about phone" in the settings.