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HTC to USA : No 3G Touch HD for you

Not fair!
"HTC made a confirmation on their Twitter page that there are no plans to bring a 3G Touch HD to the US. "
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7689.html

Those filthy mothers! I goddamn It!!! its because they hate us! And now I hate them... But i will still buy there products. Ok so i'm hypocrite but Its the lesser of the 2 evils (apple) The HD would cripple there competition.
{Bitter as ****!}

It'll happen eventually, I'm calling BS on them turning down a giant US market with an iPhone killer in their hands.

http://twitter.com/htc
Is where they say that there is no plans to release the HD on US soil.

And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282

Trancecoder said:
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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Wow... I'm shocked. This phone that half the forum was ready to jump on, the iPhone killer, best PPC phone made to date as some have called it... And they don't bring it to the US. I'm still skeptical, I think they may change their minds.

Well, they did get FCC approval for the EU version that doesn't support US 3G frequencies, so who knows...

does someone wanna let me live in europe with them?
ill ask my aunt.

I don't use usa 3G anyhow, since t-mobile only recently got it going with the Android. So, I'll happily use EDGE with this masterpiece when I get the pre-ordered unlocked european version!
Someday there will be a usa 3G version, but most likely for the at&t bandwidth....

that's wack i think they are missing out on a very big market i don't see why it can't be relased in the States this is probably the best competitor to the Iphone

Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.

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Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Well, we're getting there with the Diamond and Raphael having capacitive button areas. Now if they'd just do it for the entire screen, that would be something else. Not sure how WinMo 6 would handle it, though. Maybe we have to wait for 7 to see that functionality... I hope they mention something about it at the PDC. Can't wait to go there

This is terrible news I suppose HTC decided it wouldn't be worth producing a US version of the phone as sales wouldn't generate enough revenue. I guess they don't think they can compete with Apple's marketing power/magic/overhyped iPhone

I am very disappointed, I actually feel lost and confused. This was the phone I was going to ditch my iphone for. I could always get the Fuze now but was so disappointed with my Diamond I just don't see how the Fuze will live up to my expectations.
Maybe the X1 or Omnia will be my next phone.

From wmpoweruser.com, find below 3 speculations on why HTC may have decided to do this:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
2) HTC did not want to draw attention from their new G1 android phone, and therefore decided not to release in USA.
3) HTC thinks the investment would be wasted, due to the local dominance of the iPhone in USA, unlike in Europe, where the seemed to have accelerated its release.
I'm going with reason #1. Apple and AT&T are the devil and the devil's spawn, respectively.
Looks like XDA-Developers is going to have to start calling on some HARDWARE EXPERTS!! Swap out the radios perhaps???
Very disappointing news, but hopefully this just means that we'll get something even better when the Touch HD II is born!

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1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
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This is why I'll never be an iPhone user

g1 sales?
If they said the t-HD was coming in march they would kill half the g1 sales, I figure as soon as the hype for the g1 is over there will magically be an t-HD for USA. I am waiting for a t-HD pro w/ keyboard. I got the g1 to play with/take apart until then.

Looks like i made a good gamble... i gave up on the fuze and speculated the HD would be months out and got a US Diamond 2 weeks ago.
Looks like i will be using the diamond a lot longer than i thought. Love the phone.

1) I think AT&T is mostly responsible, since they would probably just delay the HD until mid way through next year. And who would want it then if HTC reveals a new and better device? Besides, AT&T probably doesn't want an iPhone-killer that is going to kill its iPhone.
2) Tmo and Google could also be responsible. Judging from how well G1 sales have been going, Tmo might want to get its hands on a second Android device to hit two price-points: one all-around "good" device with keyboard at $179 (the G1), and another high-design iPhone-killer at ~$299. So who knows, maybe HTC/Tmo/Google killed the HD in order to resurrect it as an Android device. After all, there has been no shortage of "Android on HD" comments everywhere, and Tmo actually keeps track of the blogosphere.

The latest on HTC's tweet:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948811620

The lament over HD in US...

I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...

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I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
meanvulcan said:
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
meanvulcan said:
Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
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All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.

Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.

Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?

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I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...

3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.

Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.

HD fever
redrazr7791 said:
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!

ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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redrazr7791 said:
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.

Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?

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Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...

you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.

redrazr7791 said:
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!

Anyone else looking forward to their next phone?

If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2

im buying a blackberry or htc hero this week. im done with winmo.

Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.

zenulator said:
Well it's rumored that the HTC Dragon is coming to Verizon. I'm going to hold out on getting anything else. The dragon is the android version of the hd2. So i'll be looking at a 1GZ Snapdragon powered Android 2.0 phone with sense ui. I hope it doesn't melt my hands.
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yeah but i wonder what the price tag will be? better start saving now zen.

I can't imagine the phone NOT being subsidized in part by the carrier, you know... like everything else they've ever put out - it'll just be close to half a million when it first comes out like it always is.
But yes, I like the touch a lot but I really miss the hardware keyboard on my MotoQ, I am now not only against all screen keyboards, but will never buy another phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard now.

boe said:
If so, which phone do you want?
I have had many PDA phones from HTC. I've probably had the Touch the longest out of all of them. I had the Diamond for a couple of months but returned it as the battery lasted only a fraction of the time that my touch did with the same settings. I hear the GSM version didn't have as much of a battery issue as the CDMA version. I currently am running build 6.5 23081 on my Touch and it is the best OS and build so far I've had on it but the phone is missing so many features I would like. While the Touch has served me very well, I'm looking forward to my next model.
I'm on Sprint so my choices are limited but I'm hoping they are considering the HD2 as they have a poll on their web site to find out if people would like it - http://community.sprint.com/baw/poll.jspa?poll=1040
I want the faster processor
I want the bigger screen
I want the flash (as I use vjcandela and other programs to use the phone as a flashlight)
I want the higher resolution
I want the new touch screen
I want the HD2
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HA did you say YOUR choices are limited? I'm with Bell Mobility. MY CHOICES ARE MUCH MORE LIMITED

well i can say goodbye to winmo in a few days. i just got a great deal on 2 new blackberry curves from sprint for only $50, so i got one phone for free!

come on windows mobile is great. i only have to hard reset every week or so.

I've had my WinMo HTC Touch with Sprint for over two years and I had to hard reset all of like twice....and one of those times was just to install WinMo 6.1. So yeah, maybe you guys are just doing something wrong, lol.
As far as my next phone, I am getting that HTC Touch Pro 2!! It look so amazing and I am dying to get my hands on it. HOWEVER, I just might change my mind because these new 1GHz phones seem so freakin' beastly. I gotta see when they'll be out and if it'll be worth the wait. Also I gotta see if they have all the features I want.

The Verizon Eris or Droid doesnt look so bad......

Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.

It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!

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Canada wont get the Motorola droid for months and when we do it will be a 3 year contract with a $500 activation fee and a minimum $60 monthly plan with 500mb transfer and NOT unlimited texting just like the Palm Pre. Epic failure.
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...

Just pre-ordered 2 Droids from Best Buy last night... all I can say is we are uber-excited about this device!!!

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It's Droid for the Wifey and I at the end of the Week!!!!
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Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.

We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right? How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?

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We should be able to transfer the Driod over the Sprint right?
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I'm not sure...
justpyro said:
How much were they on preorder from BestBuy?
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$50.00 to pre-order/hold the Handset, $149.99 due at the time of pickup (price with new 2 year contract is $299, but Best Buy gives you the $100 rebate instantly unlike Verizon retail locations)

fireshaper said:
Same here, except my wife wants an LG EnV Touch. Her loss I'll be ordering mine by phone though, have other things to take care of with VZW.
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Make sure you order before 11.15.09, because after that date Verizon is increasing their ETFs from $175.00 to $350.00... source: CNET
... and I can't believe your wife doesn't want a Droid.... my wife is STOKED to get her hands on it after having a Vogue-Droid for these past many months...

Bell getting Samsung Galaxy?
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Looks like the Bell is getting the Omnia II - the specs look very nice but its winmo. Hopefully the Droid or Sony xperia make it to Canada...
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I went into the local Bell retail store, looking at phones. Talked to the guy about the HTC Touch Diamond. He looks at me weird, asks "You like Windows Mobile??". I grin back, and say, "No, I like Android, but that's the closest I can get with you guys." I pull out my vogue and show him plemen's themed Donut build. At this point he tells me to hold on to my $200 upgrade credit a bit longer... as they will have the Samsung Galaxy within a month! Apparently the Samsung rep had been in the day before to talk 'em up about the Galaxy and Android, how awesome it's gonna be... yadda yadda. Needless to say, I'm holding onto that upgrade credit of mine for a *bit* longer

The galaxy is very un-exciting.
Better to get an unlocked Hero from Telus and put it on Bell.

G1 died today.....what phone to get

So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!

The HD2? It's Winmo but these clever minds here on XDA will soon put Android on it, I'm pretty sure.

I felt the MT3G is a vast difference from G1, and you can check out the 1.2 version as well.

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So ya i was hoping my G1 would survive till an android phone with the 1ghz cpu was released to t-mobile in store, but it didn't make it. Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever. What other android phone you guys think would be a great device to have?
got the wife a Behold 2, and its AWESOME.....after i rooted it and put a custom rom on it. The mytouch is ok. reminds me a lot of the G1. Ill never buy a motorola product ever again.......does anyone know of any other android devices coming out for t-mobile anytime soon?
thanks a ton for the time!
cheers!
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It sounds like we may be in similar situations, this is what I am thinking:
Im wondering the same thing. i have a mytouch, and wife now needs a new phone. Not getting the nexus bc of the family plan we have, and not gonna spend $500 on it.
Since it does not look like tmobile is coming out with any new (nexus like performance) phones really soon, this is what I think we are going to do, maybe good for you too:
I think we are going to find a mytouch on craigslist (like mine). hopefully for around $150. root it so that it runs good, and wait for tmobile to come out with something good, then use upgrade to get discount on new phone. Then sell the mytouch (purchased from craigslist) on ebay for about the same, if not more...
sounds like we are in the similar situations, so figured i would share about the only option I can see would be good. What do you think? good luck

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Unfortunately i cant get the Nexus in the t-mobile store, which i think was a terrible idea on google's side, but whatever.
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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.

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No, it was a very good idea. T-Mobile would lock it down and not let it be used on any other carrier, without unlocking. I'm sure you know that a large portion (probably around 60 - 70%, if not, more) of all cell phone users have never even HEARD of unlocking. Not being on just one carrier = more buyers. More buyers = more money.
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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.

cigar3tte said:
Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Aside from the CDMA junk, both GSM versions are happy to work on other networks, not just the one whose 3G band is compatible.
I.e., the tmobile3G version is compatible with ATT2G, and the ATT3G version is compatible with tmobile2G. They are both compatible with INTERNATIONAL2G and some 3G.
Further, if you decide to go to.... europe, or wherever, with an unlocked phone, you can buy a LOCAL SIMCARD and it will work IFF your phone is unlocked.
But there is MORE TO BEING UNLOCKED than just sim-unlocked. There is also FIRMWARE unlocked, and with GN1, it is TRIVIAL -- "fastboot oem unlock" is the command. This allows you to load CUSTOM FIRMWARE to the device.... which is not possible with a carrier-branded device.
If you like the phone, buy it from google. They are a very reputable seller.
Expect this in the future though: as 2G dies away, you will start to see 3G-only devices with full 6-band 3G radios -- 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. These devices, when they appear, will be universal.

Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?

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Yeah, except that makes no sense at all when Nexus One is coming in AT&T and Sprint flavors as well.
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Did you bother to even read wtf you quoted? That's one of the most pathetic responses I've ever had the pain of reading.
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. As of now... That's exactly what I said. They make more money like that instead of it just being T-Mobile. Or are they about to start putting out a different phone better than N1?

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Is T-Mobile not releasing the Desire in the US?
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No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.

HD2
Heck yeah the HD2 is awsome, even though its not android. Like somebody above said people here at XDA will find a way to put android on it. That HUGE screen is amazing.

If you ask T-Mobile they are sure to say that one of their "lovely" blur devices is what you want, kindly kick their shin and spit on them if they do

and then Toot and, oh, I apologize, TWEET and inform us what phone you got on your way to jail.

mZimm said:
No, the Desire is going to be exclusive to Verizon in the US, thus cannot be used on T-Mobile because it is CDMA.
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JUST FYI, NO U.S.A carriers has been announced for the Desire or Legend and since HTC wants this to be their "super phone" it will most likely be GSM since it will be world compatible (on edge anyway) You are probably thinking about the HTC Incredible (A completely different phone)
Any way I would go with the HTC HD2 since it is a great device and there will be an android rom for it one day and when a great android phone comes out for t-mobile just sell the HTC HD2 (someone will buy it on XDA, you should get around $300 for it if you take care of it)

Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto

brettf said:
Get the DROID! It didnt sell over 1 million units in 74 days for nothing. i know you dont like Moto
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moto isn't a good company. They been saying for a few months that the droid will get the 2.1 update in a week but it has been pushed back a lot of times. They finally pushed the update but to the milestone (droid's name for other countries) so now the droid users are pissed.
I would only choose moto for an android phone as a last resort because HTC is the brand for me.

WOW! The HTC Legend looks amazing!!
See pictures and review here: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review

There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review

legend221 said:
There is also an excellent review for the HTC HD2 on the same website.
For the mouse challenged it's here : http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-hd2-647049/review
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I thought the supersonic/EVO was the android version of HD2.

only thing I like about the HD2 is how big the screen is...yet so thin like a razor, but I'd much rather wait...even if the devs dished out a android rom for it tonight, I don't want to waste my upgrade on a WMO phone regardless of it's value or capability...simply because I'm stubborn
As far as the Desire goes, I believe it will be coming to T-mobile and if not, more likely a universal unlocked release like the N1...but as far as the Verizon only rumor, bullsh*t. HTC would never let me down like Moto did with the Droid
I have had up close experience with the N1, (friend of mines owns it), lovely phone, simply the best Android has to offer right now until proven otherwise by a later release, but I'm not going for it
If I'm going dish $500 bucks or more for something it will most def. be the Desire...because that is what I desire

Soon to be Former iPhone User!

Hey everyone!
I've been following Anroid for a while and when Google announced the N1 for AT&T I almost bit but decided to hold off for the SuperSonic... Now I know I'm jumping ship!
My contract is up this summer and I'm going to get this phone. I don't care how much it is. I highly doubt that Apple has anything up their sleeve this good.
Anyway, I've been very into the jailbreaking community for the iPhones and have gathered that this is the place to be for information on Android phones, so I'm coming over and posting to say hi and join the rest of you waiting for this phone to hit pockets around the USA.

This is like when darth vader turns good.

Is he our father?
Trust your feelings (or something like that).

haha
RIP iphone (facebook fan page)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-iPhone/352438396150

chronster said:
This is like when darth vader turns good.
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lol
like it

stilv said:
haha
RIP iphone (facebook fan page)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-iPhone/352438396150
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Nice I joined

I like to say goodbye to my iPhone too, but HTC won't bring a GSM version to Australia.
Yes, there has been tens of so called iPhone killers in the past, but I think this is the only one that I really take serious notice, and would not hesitate switching to. Just unfortunate that they don't have a world model.
Why would HTC not first concentrate on a GSM model as it usually does? After all, anyone travelling around would require it to be a GSM model rather than CDMA model, I would have thought. This phone is useless if you travel a lot.

wait for nexus one to be useable in your countries, it's been said it's comming for certain to most countires. It's going to be the "universal android phone" There may be some who have already figured out how to use it in some way/shape/form on the frequencies you use. A little research will provide the answer.
Waiting for a cdma, sprint exclusive phone to come to your country... yea... good luck with that. Nexus one will have almost everything this has minus the .5 inch difference in screen size, hdmi out, and kickstand. And some senceUI if that's your thing. I know this is for the EVO but this phone just ain't gonna happen in your country unless you're america.
Crying about why CDMA was chosen over GSM, do you realize the only android phones sprint has are still running 1.5, and have outdated processors in them? Yea **** those CDMA guys and their lousy network.... I'm on GSM and I need 5 superphones, you CDMA guys don't deserve anything. Go back to using push to talk dumbphones... you freaking douches :rollseyes:

johnsongrantr said:
wait for nexus one to be useable in your countries, it's been said it's comming for certain to most countires. It's going to be the "universal android phone" There may be some who have already figured out how to use it in some way/shape/form on the frequencies you use. A little research will provide the answer.
Waiting for a cdma, sprint exclusive phone to come to your country... yea... good luck with that. Nexus one will have almost everything this has minus the .5 inch difference in screen size, hdmi out, and kickstand. And some senceUI if that's your thing. I know this is for the EVO but this phone just ain't gonna happen in your country unless you're america.
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I'm not interested in Nexus one, unfortunately. Does not have enough in it to attract me.

eaglesteve said:
I'm not interested in Nexus one, unfortunately. Does not have enough in it to attract me.
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the evo was designed by htc and sprint, hand in hand. the market for smartphones in the US is pretty big now. and with sprint being the first to launch 4g it was only right, in a business aspect for them both to do this. it has nothing to do with gsm vs cdma. although a lot of us here in the states can agree that cdma rules over gsm! ive had both tmo and att within this last year and by far i like sprint the most. coverage, cost and now the best phone on the planet to date!

dav1boy said:
the evo was designed by htc and sprint, hand in hand.
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Is that so? Does it imply that HTC couldn't offer the same phone under other name to the other market then?
I had always thought that evo is just a variant of HTC Supersonic which was designed mainly by HTC, and that HTC would be free to repackage it anyway it sees fit for the other market.
I've not personally used a CDMA phone myself as it is rather uncommon in our part of the world, so we don't really have the option of using it even if it is really better than GSM.

eaglesteve said:
I had always thought that evo is just a variant of HTC Supersonic
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I'm guessing that the Supersonic was the code name for the Evo 4G. I like the HTC Bravo was the code name for the Desire. And the HTC Passion/Dragon was the code name for the Nexus One.