Touch HD2 - about microUSB and digital compass - Touch HD General

Is reading on the HTC homepage about HD2 specs.
I need one and was wondering about two things.
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
-some kind of TV out-cable
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
ps. when will HD get an own section on XDA? after all it is official and all now, and would be better to know were to post this kind of questions. ds.

Ethania said:
Is reading on the HTC homepage about HD2 specs.
I need one and was wondering about two things.
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
-some kind of TV out-cable
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
ps. when will HD get an own section on XDA? after all it is official and all now, and would be better to know were to post this kind of questions. ds.
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no it doesnot support sound output from usb and hd2 doesnot have tvout support like the previous hd doesnot suppor nither tvout nor soundoutput from usb

Ethania said:
Does anyone know if standard microUSB means we can connect micro usb
stuff to the phone if we only have the right drivers?
I can think of two accessoars id would like to connect-
-USB handsfree from touch PRO
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Straight up, before we even start talking about drivers, there's no way you would be able to phsically connect accessories from the Touch Pro to the HD2 as the Touch Pro is miniUSB and the HD2 microUSB.
Ethania said:
And there is one question about the digital compass.
will it be like the one that is on the marked now, were you dont have to
have GPS connected?
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Er, I don't quite understand. What do you mean 'like the one that is on the marked now'?
But I can tell you this, a digital compass has nothing at all to do with GPS. The two are completely different.

Step666 said:
Er, I don't quite understand. What do you mean 'like the one that is on the marked now'?
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Just didnt want to say:
Like the one in iPhone 3Gs, but you got my point anyway so thanks for the answer!

We have a magnet on TouchHD, why not a compass?
Hi,
Hats off to all the senior friends who are making lives easy for so many of us
I have a very simple question. The stylus which the company gives with the Touch HD is a magnet. Why can't we have a digital compass using it?
Hope it makes sense

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USB host for Trinity (D810)

The GPS function was disabled in Trinity and may be it will got a chance to re-enable it. But how about the USB Host function? Is there any way to enable it?
u have to buy an htc adaptor
I don't believe it, an adaptor?
I think it will be activated with a rom-update
Energie: source for that comment..?
I too think a rom-update is the thing...
Is their any word about the USB-Host in the new update?
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
banesi said:
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
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Yeah i think you're wrong.
It was said it was hardware implemented already (just like the GPS) but it just had to be activated with the new rom (just like the GPS)...
Any News anyone?
if we use this device http://cgi.ebay.de/USB-2-0-OTG-On-T...160683QQihZ016QQcategoryZ131881QQcmdZViewItem
does that mean, i can connect my trinity directly to a mobile USB HDD and access say 250 GB of music or pictures or movies?
Guys, STOP. There shouldn't be any USB host in Trinity, because if it has one, where would you find an idiot to buy any other PDA phone??????? That would kill the market. Even without USB host it's one of the best machines around. LOOX T830 was the only machine to have GPS and 3G, but it's a monster...
Trinity is the only PDA to ombine Wi-Fi, BT, 3G (inc. HSDPA), and GPS. Asking for USB host would be to much I'm afraid...
is this something you think or do you have proof?
Cuz this page says the trinity does have USB-OTG...
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
Look at the second page, last part....
Well actually I want USB-Host (didnt know Trinity had the ability until today), Fm Radio (still not sure if there is a build in FM Radio Chip but Chinese site states it), and I want Airbag, ABS, DVD reader/writer (double sided ... no, better Blue Ray Disc), a Coffee machine, two bathrooms and an pop out 23 inch screen for TV...
It is a great device.
Well dudes, why do you keep on whining? The topic starter asks a serious question. You all keep posting crap. Please quit it, we all want answers.
I only know that the chip does support USB-OTG, but if it's hardware implemented? We don't know at the moment. But if it is, it's up to HTC to enable it.
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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u can use www.google.com & u can found it
What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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http://sharp-developer.net/Fun/img/I-will-use-Google-before-asking-dumb-questions.gif
banesi said:
What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
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Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
saminegm said:
Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade
I do not see any mention of the HTC Trinity or USB Host.. but that could change
Man, that's exactly what I want to see with this question, many of you don't know either what USB host is and what is it for?! You keep posting things about hidden features in Trinity and moaning about it everyday but actually don't know what good it will get you, very strange.
So, smart guys, what will you do with your "USB Host" enabled Trinity ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Trinity can act as a Host, you could connect an external HDD to it and transfer files. Or you could connect a memory card reader to empty your camera's card on the move.

tv out

i'm pretty sure the answer's gonna be 'no' but;
can this touch pro tv out cable be used on the touch cruise, i'm assuming not but anyone know if this be hardware and drivers/software or just drivers/software, in which case can we get the appropriate software/drivers from a dumped rom and adapt?
click here
cheers
(sorry for posting accessory query here, but there's hardly any viewers in there!)
YES
Well the Pro has the same Input as TC, so it should be not a Problem to use.
You dont need any special Software, but the Device you want to connect should have Plug&Play Support to recognize the TC.
And if no Plug & Play Support on the TV, you will defitly need a Driver for that, but every new TV has the P&P Support. I dont think that you use a 10 Years old TV
angel--eyes said:
Well the Pro has the same Input as TC, so it should be not a Problem to use.
You dont need any special Software, but the Device you want to connect should have Plug&Play Support to recognize the TC.
And if no Plug & Play Support on the TV, you will defitly need a Driver for that, but every new TV has the P&P Support. I dont think that you use a 10 Years old TV
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Erm... you've got UDK r9??
are you sure, only you're saying that because the connectors are the same it will, but the touch pro has the same mini usb connector as many devices/predecessors such as TC P3650 and ARTEMIS P3300 but only the latest edition - the pro - is shown on the htc site as having tv out. also
you don't sound as though you're speaking from having tried it first hand.
sorry it's just the cable costs 15-20GBP which is a fair whack if it doesn't
angel--eyes said:
Well the Pro has the same Input as TC, so it should be not a Problem to use.
You dont need any special Software, but the Device you want to connect should have Plug&Play Support to recognize the TC.
And if no Plug & Play Support on the TV, you will defitly need a Driver for that, but every new TV has the P&P Support. I dont think that you use a 10 Years old TV
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TC has same input as PRO?
We are talking about output here and just about every HTC phone I have used has the 11 pin mini usb plug, so does that mean every HTC has TV out?
If that is the case why has HTC not release the cable before?
bally3 said:
Erm... you've got UDK r9??
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whats R9 got to do with anything?
dysolve said:
TC has same input as PRO?
We are talking about output here and just about every HTC phone I have used has the 11 pin mini usb plug, so does that mean every HTC has TV out?
If that is the case why has HTC not release the cable before?
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Not too mention modern Motorola phones as well as many peripherials, and I don't think it would be smart to assume they have TV out as well when paired with this cable.
anyone with an excess of cash (i.e. rich) - buy a cable and try it please!

usb audio out on hd

hello!
is there a really chance to get the audio out over usb like the diamond? i've read, that a driver exist to solve this problem. is there a chance to get this driver?
slash_1 said:
hello!
i've read, that a driver exist to solve this problem. is there a chance to get this driver?
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You can find this driver in the HD accessories forum (it's discussing remote control for HD).
But you don't need to because it doesn't work. I couldn't install it - got a message that the latest driver already exists. So it seems like it's not a software issue, there's just no audio in the extUSB hardware wise.
Stupid design really, and a case where marketing beat logic and usefulness. Not to mention that extUSB is USB plus audio by definition!
vangrieg said:
You can find this driver in the HD accessories forum (it's discussing remote control for HD).
But you don't need to because it doesn't work. I couldn't install it - got a message that the latest driver already exists. So it seems like it's not a software issue, there's just no audio in the extUSB hardware wise.
Stupid design really, and a case where marketing beat logic and usefulness. Not to mention that extUSB is USB plus audio by definition!
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OK, do you mind if I ask a stupid question then - where does a hands free kit plug into ?
Paul.Ferrari said:
OK, do you mind if I ask a stupid question then - where does a hands free kit plug into ?
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3,5mm plug hole in top of the phone
so I find that really sad.
I had already pointed to use my new HD same as my Diamand as a player in the car.
so long, thank you for your answers!

USB Host once again!

Hi all!
Now I know that there was a thread regarding the presumed USB Host functionality on the HD2, but that thread seems to be like dead... But now since the finished product has finally landed, I think we should start thinking about it again. Now we all know that the USB Host feature isnt listed officially, but there are rumours flying around suggesting that the feature is available in the HD2's chipset, which means that maybe there is a way to develop drivers for it or something. I remember one of the old HTC devices, which turned out to have USB Hos capabilities which were discovered by the community years after the device sowed up on the market So, in other words, if a possibility of activating this feature exists, souldn't the community start to at least investigate it? That is only my suggestion
Think you are talking about this thread?
Toshiba TG01 has the same Snapdragon platform and provides USB host capabilities. So I am pretty sure will have usb host too or at least some clever guys can extract it from the Toshiba.
12aon said:
Think you are talking about this thread?
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So You're saying that the drivers from that thread should work?
jgal said:
So You're saying that the drivers from that thread should work?
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Could very well be, I haven't tried. I guess the first one to try will inform the rest I guess
if someone tests it and informs us about it with a positve resulttttt,
i will go to the store and get my self a cableeeeeeee
if it will work, some people can shut up about second camera, they can buy webcam and connect it
Are you talking about using your HD2 as a Harddrive??
YES!
Are you talking about using your HD2 as a Harddrive??
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No he wants to plug a hard drive (or an usb key) in the HD2.
DocteurN said:
No he wants to plug a hard drive (or an usb key) in the HD2.
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Ooh, that I dunno.
I'm also very curious to know if the HD2 has USB-Host support!
20mihalko said:
if it will work, some people can shut up about second camera, they can buy webcam and connect it
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No, you still require the driver to get it working which probably won't exist. My Eten M600 works with mouse, keyboard, hub, harddrive so far.
20mihalko & xmoo, can any of you test TMC on iGo8? I asked in both of your thread but didn't get a reply. It's one of the deal breaker for me to give up the X1
jackleung said:
No, you still require the driver to get it working which probably won't exist. My Eten M600 works with mouse, keyboard, hub, harddrive so far.
20mihalko & xmoo, can any of you test TMC on iGo8? I asked in both of your thread but didn't get a reply. It's one of the deal breaker for me to give up the X1
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If you could pm me about the TMC.
Dunno what it is, and never worked with it!
xmoo said:
If you could pm me about the TMC.
Dunno what it is, and never worked with it!
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check you PM box
Hi guys,
I'm coming back with the same question in this thread, do Leo have an usb host or maybe like written before we can make it live with specific drivers like the Diamond ?
Thanks for testing
I'm still waiting for mine (the 23rd I presume)
Kindest Regards
Plnf
Do you think it will be possible to find the toshiba tg01 drivers for usb host and inlude it to the hd2 device? For what should I have to search on my tg01 and where? Maby the drivers will also work on the hd2?
Hi,
Maybe you have an install cd with your tg01 where you can fing usb host drivers ?
Rgds
Plnf
I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
scilor said:
I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
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That's a shame!
scilor said:
I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
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Well, connect the pins... what are you waiting for.

tv or video out ??

hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks
zohaer21 said:
hi
i dont know if this has been covered (the search didnt find anything relevant)
is there a hack / way for video or tv out on this device??
thanks
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I am also interested by that.
Any ideas?
Basically, I would like to know if TV out is possible to connect it to my car entertainment device that I am planning to buy :
Din 1, 7 inch with DVD, GPS, Bluetoth, USB.
This will transform this device to a mobile device with a large screen from where I can surf, chat, play games etc...(launch all apps from the HTC HD2)
Any ideas?
It's not possible. Sorry, but it really is that simple.
Thanks for the answer.
Is this because of the harware that does not support it or is it because there is no driver developped by HTC?
i really think thats a driver problem only Maybe there is a way to stream video signal over wifi or bluetooth? it's kinda strange thing to do but i think it's possible using a software?
I read in a forum that via the 3,5mm jack it might be possible to video out (it was for another phone).
If Hardware does not support it via micro USB, we are stuck I guess,
If it is a driver issue, xda gurus might develep one,
If micro USB does not support it, what about the 3,5 mm jack?
I am not an expert at all, but I am just brainstorming...
Any thoughts?
This is the message I got rom HTC Support
Thank you for your enquiry about HTC HD2
To answer question 1 and 2, the HD2 does not support video out as it does not have a built in video out socket nor would you be able to achieve this via the 3,5mm jack.
It is not a built in function to handle this via bluetooth I could only suggest you try to look up some 3rd party program, but I could not provide support for this.
Best regards,
Dennis
HTC
Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!
pat12 said:
Well actually, the HD2 does support video out! Using myMobiler you can display in full screen on your PC what's going on on your HD2. And if in turn, you connect your PC to your TV you could also watch your HD2 on your 50'' Full HD TV screen
OK, I'm joking here, the quality would be terrible, but still, it goes to show that it's possible to have video come out from the micro USB port and be displayed on a much larger screen, so maybe someone will go one step further!
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Mon pot
I basically wanted to connect my HD2 to a Car Entertaniement device which has a 7 inch touch-screen, 'genre auto-radio', (7 ' Din1, DVD, GPS, Bluetooth, USB) in order to take advantage of all features/applications from the HTC (Google maps, dictionnaires, enclyclopedia, 3G, opera, chat etc).
Mymobiler will not help at all.
The HTC Touch Pro supports the video-out; The HTC DH2 does not support it as it is now. I have seen on http://wmpoweruser.com/ a guy making a video out cable for this LG eXpo. Check the video. Why can't we do it?
It shouldn't be difficult to make a video out cable...
Via a redfly?
If you were really committed, you could grab a Celiocorp Redfly, wait until they release the HD2 driver, then use the media cable to output to video...
Then, for the transmission of the video, you could use either bluetooth or micro-USB.
So it's technically possible with the right hardware...
The closest thing you'll get to TV out on the HD2 is the ability to set it as a media server, but that will require some kind of media browser client. I've done this with my PS3 and a Nokia N95, but the software is currently under development for the WM platform.
See here...
http://mobileosgi.blogspot.com/2009/08/dlna-media-server-for-smart-phones.html
Incidentally, they use a PS3 on the demo video, but that is not required. Also, you can use this to stream video, not just pictures.
problem is
phones that output through the 3.5 jack have an extra connector inside the socket to carry the image channel so there is no way to adapt a standard 3.5 output to carry video regardless of software. (not taking mine apart to look if its 2 or 3 chanel of course hehe)
as for through the usb im less sure but i'd guess it would only be able to send to host devices and not client peripherals. course, I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.
samsamuel said:
I'd be more than happy to be told otherwise.
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i wish some one finds out how to do this.. but i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
guess ill be keeping my iphone 3gs (cos i need video out )
i just played with the hd2 today and boy im gonna miss not having it
zohaer21 said:
i just did a quick search on google and what i found out was that none of the snap dragon processor based winmo devices do video out
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The processor has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the device can output video. It needs specific hardware to do this and it is not included in this device, neither through the USB port or the 3.5mm jack socket.
It is 100% impossible to implement a "fix" for this with software because the device simply does not have the hardware required.
Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.
ayilm1 said:
Actually, Snapdragon processors DO support TV-Out. The Acer s200 (neo touch) and Toshiba TG01 both run on Snapdragon and support TV-Out. What I think the problem is, is that the hardware is there, but HTC just haven't implemented it. Meaning that they simply have not connected the function. Which is actually a shame as this was the only thing the pushed me away from this spectacular device and choose the Omnia B7610 instead, because it is a better all round device.
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You need a lot more than just processor support for TV out functionality, so the hardware is not there. Some of it is, but only 1 small part.
Exactly! That's why I was disappointed with the HD2. Seeing as Acer and Tosh both implemented the tv out functionality from the core, why didn't HTC do the same? Surely it wouldn't cost them THAT much more would it?
As far as I understand, this is a hardware related issue and not driver related? If it is driver related, I am sure one day this driver would be coded and made available in this forum.
I was palnning to video out to my car DVD entertainment touch screen device in order to be able to use google maps, opera, dictionnaries etc..
This plan will ne be feasible then...
You can use the hd2 as an usb-stick. With that function i can view movies and listen to music on my Alpine touchscreen radio.

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