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I'd like to know if you have any problems with Astronavigator on Touch HD.
I have installed it and as soon as go in the menu for changing location, the application freezes
I'd also like to know if there's any similar program, which uses gps to define current location...
Tnx
Andrej
Same for me: app freezes
yep
fine till you change location - then freezzzzz
here the same...no sulotion in the pas half year?
here the same...no solution in the past half year?
I've tried running Atronavigator on both HTC shift and Touch HD, the stuff just freezes.
But... if you de-select all the stuff on the map, once in a while, you can get to the location part, I was even able to get a fix one time and see the soft. as it should be.
On the shift, it's even harder to get it working, one must reboot, kill activesync,kill all the other stuff like GSM/Radio, kill the stars, planets and the rest and..
you might get lucky once in a while...
possibly it's due to the origins of my file...
Same here; just freezes when trying to locate position or even when wanting to input position manually on Touch HD
Hi,
It's Working with WGAFIX.
WGAfix ?
I guess you mean WVGA Fix(.cab) to switch to VGA, I first was confused into downloading WGA fix for XP :-(
This looks like the place to get it.
Incidentally, the freeze happens with the version legitimately downloaded from vitotechnology.com. I sent a request to their support 3 weeks ago, and then by email, haven't heard from them.
The previous version (astronavigatorII 1.2) works fine though...
goulniky said:
I guess you mean WVGA Fix(.cab) to switch to VGA, I first was confused into downloading WGA fix for XP :-(
Where do I get this anyway?
Incidentally, the freeze happens with the version legitimately downloaded from vitotechnology.com. I sent a request to their support 3 weeks ago, and then by email, haven't heard from them.
The previous version (astronavigatorII 1.2) works fine though...
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Not sure if this is the WVGA fix your talking about
yeah, that's the one. I find that I need to do a soft reset to switch back from VGA to WVGA with that program, but that's fine.
The good news is, once you've set the astroNavigatorII location in VGA mode, you can return to WVGA as everything else works, and it 'cookies' your location. So, as long as you don't move to a distant location, you'll be able to enjoy the app.
Wow, I've been looking for a suitable app that can rival the iPhone's Starmap. Doesn't look like Vitotechnology are too reliable though... No fix for the problem in however many months, and no replies to tech support requests?
More annoying though, I go to their website and find they have an iPhone app themselves called Star Walk 3.0 which has all sorts of goodies like GPS/Digital compass etc, whilst the Astronavigator app for Windows Mobile phones seems to be stuck in a development freeze with a location feature that doesn't even work properly on our phone!
iPhone virtual machine?
from what I can judge, Astronavigator is nowhere as impressive as Starmap, still more expensive, no editing, scant documentation. The navigation / screen gestures are also quite confusing. Haven't used Starmap though.
I guess what we need is an iPhone emulator running under WM6
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Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, powered by Bing Maps, for owners with a Windows phones on Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T. Bing will calculate your route, and guide you as you drive. You can select the fastest or shortest route, choose to avoid traffic and/or tolls, get a map or a list of directions, and see arrows and hear alerts to know which way to turn next. The navigation feature is compatible with the phones below:
•HTC Fuze
•HTC Pure
•HTC HD2
•HTC Tilt 2
•HTC Touch Diamond 2
•HTC Touch HD
•HTC Touch Pro
•HTC Touch Pro 2
•Motorola Q9c
•Samsung Jack
•Samsung Omnia II
•Samsung Propel
•T-Mobile Dash 3G
How to install it (your phone should have data plan in order to use it):
1.On your phone, open your web browser and go to m.bing.com
2.Click on "Download Bing App" to download and install the app (or download directly fromhttp://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx to install manually)
3.After installing the app, go to Start menu and click on "Bing"
4.Select "Direction"
5.Enter addresses and select "Navigate"
This is an update to the previous Bing cab. It auto updates if you run the old one. Looks like a good update. Similar to Google Maps. Looks like a good update.
I was never really a user of Bing, until yesterday. I never really liked the interface and the usibility of MS apps, they tend to be very utilitarian and clunky. Sort of like 80% apps, they are almost good, but not quite.
That is until I tried this new version of Bing. I don't know about the rest of it, but the maps and the navigation is 100%. Sure its not TomTom or iGo, and you need a data connection (so no wandering the back roads of montana) but it is an excellent FREE altinative especially for city driving.
It loads fast, it looks good, it READS THE STREET NAMES, and it will get you there. So if you are off in an area you are not familliar with, and you are looking for an address, this program will certainly get you there.
You don't have to have nearly 1GB of SD card space taken by maps either. For the power traveler who is always on the go and always navigating, then this may not be for you. But for the other 90% of us, who have to go to Aunt Sally's house, and you have not been there in 20 years... this will do the job, and do it well.
It also pulls addresses from your contacts, it allows you to do voice search and then it will navigate you to the location of your choice. Also, traffic data is on by default (I think, but its there either way). The routing options are a little limited, but they include shortest, fastest, no tolls and account for traffic delays in calculating route (interesting option I have not had the chance to try).
i have the tmo tp2 with energy rom on it and i can't get it to work it is installed and the gps map works but nothing else does??? it says " sorry, we can't complete your search. please check your connection and try again." but i have 3g running and two to three signal bars. what the problem what wrong????
I have the same phone and am running the latest NRG ROM with Cookie (see signature). The update worked in my ROM as does the latest version of Bing... You might try updating to the same version I'm running or reflashing and reapplying the update...
If you want a good, free, turn by turn nav solution the pain of reflashing is worth it I think
nice, i will try this app, never used bing before...
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It can and has replaced TomTom for me. I ran TT7 on my old Tilt for a long time. The bing search is much more powerful and better than TT. TT does some things well but Bing is more well rounded. Plus there's no way I'm shelling out the cash for TT maps when this is free. The voice guidance leaps it in front of WM Google Maps as well. It's probably only just gonna get better as well. It's pretty good right now though.
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I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options. If you read my mini review I mentioned that it would be good for light around town navigating. For example, I was traveling a few weeks ago, and I was really craving something other than McDonalds to eat. I decide on Chipoltle, but since they are not as common as McD I needed to search for them. I first loaded google maps and did a search. Found one a few miles away. Due to the confusing roads, and the heavy traffic, I wanted voice navigation rather than just following a line on the screen. So I had to write the address down on a piece of paper, then loaded iGo and keyed the address in and let it guide me to my dinner.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the additional possibility to direct you based on traffic volumes (I was in suburban Washington DC, that feature could have been HUGE for me).
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar)
My main issue with it... the turn screen comes on over the entire map screen and shows the name of the street you are gonna turn on, and a big arrow indicating the type of turn. It does not seem like it goes away until after the turn. I for one would like the know that info then go back to the map so I can see the route in reference to the other roads around. It has a hide button on the left softkey, but that is kinda annoying to have to do on repeated turns.
edit: All I can say is that my wife's first smart phone, and this easy to use bing software just game me the need to buy a window mount for the phone in her car.
Used it today for the first time. I've been a long time Garmin user and I still like the UI better of garmin but bing gets rid of the lag. It was very accurate where as with garmin I have about a 1 second delay.
Wish garmin would release a newer version fixing the lag issue. overall though I was very impressed with the capability of the free bing app.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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boufa said:
Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar).
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I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
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I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
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Despite my snotty response, I would be thrilled to see Google Navigator come to the WM platform. I like the fact that Google and Microsoft are taking shots at each other in this "maps war" Ultimatly WE all win. If I am not navigating I like google maps. I keep it on and use it just for seeing where I am at the moment and to see traffic. I like the visual look of the google maps better and the road construction information is great too. But the navigating is a whole ton better on the new Bing.
I really want to like Waze. I really tuely do. I like the idea of driving down streets that I can see that no one else has gone down. I like adjusting my route to get one of the prize locations. However, the stability of the program is very poor. I get crashes once in every 2 or 3 uses.
From what I have seen Google Navigator takes the voice navigation and puts it onto the google maps, and for me that would be the perfect solution... IF it lives up to the promise.
Bing is a great step in the right direction. Sure there are features that are missing now BUT the improvement is a night and day difference. Can't wait to get other features (gas prices, etc). Also, an off-line mode would be amazing. Giving users the ability to download map information in advance for those rural trips (we are heading to North Idaho next month) would be a great option. 99% of the time I have a data connection but when I don't ... that's probably the time I need GPS the most
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thanks for posting. people here are generally nice. no need to worry about sucking up to the douchebags at sd...
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
masteroe12 said:
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
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dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
Edit :
Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
masteroe12 said:
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
;-))
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omarza said:
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
berbecverde said:
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
dgabriel said:
Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
berbecverde said:
I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/copilot-live-navigation-not-coming-to-windows-phone-7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/tomtom-disinterested-in-windows-phone-7-too
Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0
i have my htc hd2 long time i test more then 150 roms on 6.5 version , and andorid , i admit android is a nice room , i start using wm7 nodo version ,its realy amazing rom , very fast rom ( similar iphone) no bugs . this room was made for internet and entretainment users.
1-the battery life is ok almost 40h using like a normal mobilephone, but need a ]trick ,]bcs wm7 on hd2 have a drivers problm in camera its make drain battery more then normal but with the trick u resolve that , the other problem is no aplication to use wifi router on wm7 .
2-in wm7 we cant type the number and show the name like in 6.5 rom , u need go to your phone list to search the name you want to call.~~
3-wm7 not suported outlook to sync the contacts , u need have a Key FROM microsoft to conect ur windows live acount and from there u can pass all your contacts
since hd2 official not suported wm7 , and wm7 is so good on hd2 , try using that u will never go back to others roms
i hope this information is helpful for u change....
Baker0 said:
Ive been using my hd2 for a long while now on android and its been superb. But I still look over at WM7 forums am im very tempted to give it ago.
Is everything working now on the newer releases?? Whats the battery life like?
Some one sell me WP7
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Baker0
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I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.
there is a software camera .006 it correct the problem about the auto focus . with that, the pic show nice.
Lynehammike said:
I have tried WP7 and it is truely a smooth operating system on the HD2. For me, there are two fundamental problems with WP7 which ruin the experience. The camera driver is still terrible - never use flash and no auto focus. Also the multitouch only works if you place your two fingers down at exactly the same time.
If you don't use the camera, and you can live with the dodgy multitouch - it is a great ROM.
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On top of these what kills it for me is that there is not a good navigation program. Other than that it is pretty damn awesome.
The current non-Sense Android ROMs are actually working perfectly on our HD2s, the biggest problem (for me) is the battery life. WP7 however has some issues on the HD2.
First of all you have to have an SD card that works (correctly) with WP7. Then, if you move to WP7 you will find yourself in a less open environment: less apps, no usb drive option, less control of your phone. You will also lose some Google functionalities you had in Android (Navigation app, sync multiple calendars, maps). You will lose flash support. You will have to call Microsoft for an activation code if you want the live services (access to market apps). This brings a lot of pain in the a$s...
BUT! If your installation is successful you will have a very smooth OS with a great integration of facebook and google contacts synchronization. With Zune software you can synchronize your phone with your movies and music. You will get a pretty good battery life and a fully functioning phone. I flashed a WP7 ROM last week and i think I'll stick with it for a while.
Hope this helps
Thank you for your help, camera is a big one for me.... Does USB tethering work?
I'll chime in not to necessarily "sell it" but coming from a strictly WinMo background. I have Android on SD, but I've refused to have it as a main OS simply because WM has been everything I needed for years. I'm not an "app"er, could care less about market saturation, as long as I can find, somehow, the tools I need for day to day.
Coming from that background, I decided to give WP7 a go about 2 weeks ago when finally nodo was available to us on HD2. So far its been a double edged sword to me. I miss my openness already. That's my first thoughts. I miss being able to transfer files on the fly and even as simply as move files internally to deep level private folders. In WM6.5 I was to the point of using my phone as a boot-able agent for PC repairs. I would have said I miss syncing directly to Outlook, because for almost 10 years that's where all of my contacts have been stored and backed up, but MS forced me to make an exchange server with Office 2010. I think I'd be damned if I had to move my info online to an external server. Though I did activate my phone to Live, the only cloud service I use is the marketplace. Another thing I miss a lot is Sense, lol I know silly but I absolutely loved that interface.
And what I'm liking about WP7 so far, is one of the main pushes for the phone, that it is a nice neat little interface (though I really wish someone would hack sense into it). Its fast, very fast, and easy to use (which isn't really that big a deal to me because I thrive on difficult and complicated, and used to love having a phone I knew not many people could just pick up and get into), but it is very easy none the less. The marketplace has so far had a ton of apps that I do use almost daily now (which is making it harder for me to think about re-flashing 6.5). Actually the apps are the only things that's keeping me from going back at the moment. I kind of feel like I want to wait for Mango and more hacks so I can have my control back, but damned if I won't miss some of the apps.
Battery life is a bit spotty for me, because I live in a rural area at the moment and if I don't turn on airplane mode when I get home, drain down to nothing in a matter of a hours. I did a test the other day while I was out and had full H and staring from almost 100% went through about 45 min of a 93 min movie from netflix and battery was almost dead. I've learned though, the way I use my phone no matter what OS, I have to charge it all the time anyways.
That's my report, hope it helps ;-)
edit: there is a workaround for tethering with DFrouter but its sort of like the USB Storage workaround.
Long time WinMo user that made the switch with NoDo. I haven't shot any photos that required flash, but the photos I have taken with the camera were fine. I got an activation code via chat in 5 minutes or so, so that wasn't and issue. I went through the hassle of formatting my card to allow me to load Android, so when I do need to tether, I have that option.
My biggest complaint so far is the sound is overdriven, which seems to be fixable via registry tweak. In spite of loading Tom's xap, I haven't been able to successfully side-load an app that will let me work the registry a bit. But that's operator error, at some point I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I just checked into NRG's 6.5 thread to see if there was anything new, a habit that will take me a long time to break. At this point, I don't see myself going backwards. I much prefer WP7 over Android, and though there is one app I really miss from WinMo (SplashID), I've found workarounds for the rest. I much prefer the e-mail and calendar interfaces on WP7, and it I'll admit it is kind of nice to have some cool, high graphics games on my day-to-day OS. Having been a smart phone user forever, I'm used to having chargers and battery spares, so battery life isn't much of a consideration for me.
I highly recommend you give it a try. Worst case, you just flash back. Good Luck!
I was in the same boat you are in right now, but there was no way to move away from Android. My love for Android and my loyalty are true to the core. What did I do? I got both. I have 16GB MicroSD Card Class 10 and with sick video guide from 96edwy I now have Dual Boot HTC HD2 running XBmod v1.10 NODO and American Android 2.3.2 !!!
Like everyone else I had my period of "Flash Madness" where I flashed about 5 times a day but it slowed down few months ago with new job and all. My ultimate solution: I have best of both worlds!!! Nirvana state of mind....
I love my Android, but I also love WP7 and right now mobile device gods are smiling on me
What OS to use...
Hi all, I tried them all on HD2 WM 6.5, 6.5.X,Froyo on SD,WP7 and finally stuck on Ginger in ROM. What is best for you depends on what kind of user you are. For example - I'm not into gaming on my phone, I don't have a facebook or twitter acc and couldnt care less about social networking,I use email extensively, care about outlook integration, office docs, use a lot of browsing, watch a lot of youtube and news aps...
WM 6.5(.X)
GOOD
- Looks great (the weather animations are so cool, the tabs are functional and fun way to use the phone)
- Has USB storage mode
- Has USB and WiFi tethering capability
- Can sync with outlook mail and contacts or any other mail with such ease that flashing and putting it back to running state takes less than 5 minutes
- Has a ton of GREAT GPS apps like iGo etc
- Best battery life of HD2 is of course on a original 6.5 ROM, nothing you flash will top that
- Skype works, although a very old version that you have to install yourself
- Can be used until the battery is dead and then recharged without a problem (not like android or wp7 ports)
- You can customize the home screen with addons like cookies home tab etc, lo limited customization is available (no widget support like in android etc)
- From just a month ago you can enjoy high res YouTube videos
BAD
- Sometimes laggy
- Browsing experience is ages behind Android and WP7, no flash support etc
- Camera is bad compared to the one on Andoird for example
- Live wallpapers are not as good as the ones on android and theres so few to choose from
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices)
- Gaming suck
- Development is dying or almost dead
WP7
GOOD
- Soooooo cool looking, fastest interface ever, extra intuitive and modern
- Mail app is great, very well thought trough and nice looking
- The best social networking integration, deeply into contacts
- Great gaming experience with xbox live
BAD
- Camera is only usable trough an external app, the built in is ****ty
- No direct outlook sync
- Has to be activated with MS
- No usb or wifi tethering
- No usb flash mode
- No GPS apps whatsoever, not even Google maps
- Live tiles are cool but third party apps cant really use their full potential (solved in upcoming Mango release but you'll have to wait for like a year to get it)
- No skype
- No universal search option (like on Android or BB devices), the search button is reserved for Bing search (maybe I'm wrong on this one, but as I recall you cant get to contacts so easly)
- A very long and thus very hard to use app drawer
- Cant use your own mp3 ringtones (might be wrong on this one correct me if I'm way off here)
- No real multitasking
- multitouch is implemented poorly
Android
GOOD
- Great looking interface, live wallpapers etc
- A lot of apps and games (best YouTube app ever, Skype is working fine etc.
- I just cant live without the universal search option I use all the time, so where ever you might be in the interface you are one button click away from your contacts or google search
- Has available GPS navigation software from Google maps to iGo etc.
- Great social networking apps but those options are not so deeply built in to the OS like in wp7
- USB and wifi tethering is working (not in my build for some reason but I can live without this option)
- USB flash mode working
- Multitasking
- The best camera on HD2 (a lot better than the one on the original rom)
- multitouch wirks just fine
BAD
- Battery life is bad even on phones designed for Android, let alone on ported ones
- No direct outlook sync ( a big minus for me, but not necessarily for everyone)
So, if you look at the pros and cons, the result is - your HD2 is the most functional with Android, then with good old WM 6.5 and at the end with WP7. WP7 needs to be polished, regardless of the quality of the HD2 port which is very close to the real thing. Mango update is coming this fall, but a lot of things are not addressed in it and MS need in my humble opinion another year to fix all missing bits...
Well i think everyone has said pretty much everything there is to say, i think all the bad points have been mentioned
all i would say is this,
WP7 is a different OS, its nothing like previous OS platforms on the HD2, you cant compare them as they are for different markets.
I was/am a heavy WM user, WM is a beast of an OS and there is nothing it cant do except games, had Microsoft not been completely shafted by OEMs, QC and the networks, WM would have been a modern day contender, as it is however it may be a beast of an OS but it isnt pretty and its laggy.
I tried Android for quite a while and i just found it fragmented, apart from games which isnt something i use there is little to know benifit over WM, yeah it looks good and is smoother but i just got board with it to be honest. its less functional than WM but is smoother, the UI is not much of an improvment in my opinion.
So i tried WP7, to start with i thought it was crap, very little functionality to the other two, very smooth, but then something odd happened, the UI just grew on me, the intigration of the OS became somthing i thought was great, it took about 2-4 weeks before i suddenly realised i absolutely love the thing, so i tried dropping back to Android for a while and i hated it.
in short, WP7 changes the way in which you use the device, the best and most accurate way of looking at it is, Windows Mobile is the best pocketPC platform out there (not including games) Windows Phone is the best SMARTPHONE out there, there is a difference, i have a second device which runs WM now, im longing for the day someone can port WM to an SD card
Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.
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Yep, couldnt agree more with dazza. WP7 is all about PHONE experience! Most of us are not app freaks and use our PHONE primarily as a communication device, not a gaming platform or a replacement for a compass or a GPS device... All those devices do a better job on their own than any hybrid will so bottom line, WP7 takes me where I wanna be - focused on communicating with people - I can quickly get to my contacts, check what they've been up to, read and send emails and texts, send them a pic or two, surf the web a bit... And no other OS right now does that better, faster and cooler than WP7. Period.
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Only if the battery life is better Its only 6 hours from the last full charge and the battery is already down by half
Roxxx
Yeahhh..
I think WP7 on HD2 is awesome!
I also at first thought, that its missing functionality, like file managers, copying files to device and back etc.. The GPS and so on.
But i must say, WP7 is awesome, the integration into Facebook, the browser, the mail client is fantastic. It was not made to be like WM 6.5 etc, this is something on its own....
And it is really growing on all of us
Looking forward to the updates, and more software to be added.
We just have to live with the short battery life!
Windows Phone Device Manager
Also....
I am not sure if some of you guys have checked this out?
http://www.touchxperience.com/
This is a beta project, and its awesome! Allows custom ringtones, copy files to device and back. This is going to be great.
Try it out!
Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
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its all about tast , If I where you I would play with the omnia for some time.
DavidJBrown said:
Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
D
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150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best SUPER amoled screens by far and is with 4" really perfect. htc wildfire are a VW Polo and Omnia7 are a Audi A4 All good apps and games has wp7 too and it works fast smooth with a pure and clear UI. and if you flash my mi7ROM you get a Full unlocked (root) OS with ability to install custom apps and improvements
look in my signature you will find my omnia7 rom and my online storage ....
SAMSUNG OMNIA 7 mi7ROM 8107 and - my storage content on htcfanboys.com
mirolg said:
150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best amoledPlus screens by far and is with 4" really perfect.
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Just to point out that it's not AMOLED Plus, it's just SuperAMOLED. Galaxy S2, Galaxy Tab 7.7 (the new one) and Galaxy Nexus are the top-tier devices for the moment utilizing Super AMOLED Plus display matrix.
Like i said to derik123derik123, i´ll try to put my toughts in a parcial way...
First of all, i´ve been always merging between iOS and Android,like them a lot, lived with it for years, all kinda of mobiles, jailbreakin, rootin,flashing custom, downgradin, even opening to change hardware parts...
Last year i had Motorola Atrix 4G and iPhone 4S, great ones, but without the opportunity to live with an oficial ICS ROm, i sold Atrix and in this January without jailbreak and tired of iOS, sold iPhone 4s....
Now, i had the opportunity and bought and Samsung Omnia 7...remember when you´re a kid and saw that toy in TV or Movie and when you got it sounds just more perfect then you could thought? When sounds that you will pass your entire life with it spending all minute just adoring it?
Well, i felt just like when started to use Omnia 7 with Mango 7.5, i really felt happier each time i scrolled my finger, the system is so fluid, so fast, so responsive, its beautiful, its simple, modern and intuitive, you dont have to dig its already there in your face.
For the first time i felt that my years with Droid and iPhones passed...Microsoft has now conquered me and surprised with an inteligent innovation, they just create something unique, there is nothing in their system that remebers Android or iOS, they have their identity.
I think that if you like the new, the unique and different, Windows Phone 7 it´s a new and beuatiful world to explore all time.
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
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DavidJBrown said:
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
D
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Check marketplace for Connection Tiles.
Cheers!
I believe Supreme shortcuts should do the trick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343993
HOMEBREW xap wp7 apps ( tnx xda developer)
Marketplace apps:
AlbumFlow- music player with cover
AudioAnalyzer- sound check app
Babylon Translator- ad free translator with the most languages
Bedbug- better sleep soundplayer
Betty Crocker- best recipe app with pics
Cocking Timer- very cool 3x timer- works in background
Convert2Go- convert app
Clinometer
Cocktail Flow- cocktails
Dance Hub- Dj- mix with offline download
Ebay- ebay
Filmstarts- Kino/movie app
GPS Voice Navigation- online GPS Voice Navigation
handyscan- scan your documents and load up to skydrive
IMDB- movie DB
Lighting Dial- cool homescreen alternative with much shotcuts
MobileTag- barcode scan
Notes- simple, clean notes app
Remotely Possible- play you media from PC on your device- cool!
SleepTimer- sleep music timer
Slydr-keyboard like swipe
Sky Drive- Microsoft skydrive app
Signal Generator- generate test- audio signals
Stick Tiles- stick a notes
Soundtracker- best music app like spotify but free
Soudhound- better shazam alternative
Free Music Cloud- Dj- mix with offline download
SweetNSpicy- Indian and Thai recepies- great!
Tech New Now- best Technical rss feed reader
TuneIn Radio- Radio app
Timer- timer
TuneWiki- live Lyrics app by play a song- in different languages!
QuickMinder- Time minder tile app
WhatsUp- short message app multicross OS
Voice Memos Lite- record Voice Memos
wikipedia Reader- wp reader
Wiztiles- Induvidualize your custom tiles
Weave- best Technical rss feed reader
WPcentral- wpcentral.com app
WP7Applist- Marketplace overview
XDA-Developers- board express forum app
Youtube Pro- with down- and upload!
Thanks again for all the help! Supreme shortcuts is exactly what I wanted and I've installed most of the apps mentioned by the awesome mirolg.
Phone is now almost perfectly setup...........apart from Zune! For a start it's seems unnecessary as I was used to drag and drop on Android, but I can live with it.
What I can't live with is the way it won't copy a full album over! I have a lot of Audio Books, I do a lot of driving and I find them better than music.
They are all ID3 marked up and work fine on all other devices. I sync them up with the Omnia 7 and for some reason it copies over file 1,2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 etc!!
I really don't understand why it will not copy the FULL contents of the album, I've checked the tags, they are all good, all files are there and play on other devices, I have removed and re added the library, but no. It does not seem to work!
Also, a very strange thing. I fully charge the phone, connect Bluetooth in the car and the phone to USB to charge and by the end of my journey (6Hrs) the phone battery is nearly dead! I havn't used the phone for anything, 3g, Wifi, GPS all turmed off!
Any idea why the phone seems to discharge? I know the USB port on the Car Stereo is fine as I have used other phones with it.
Thanks again, I'd appreciate any advice!
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