Hi
I´m wondering if somebody can port the EnlargeStartMenu from Topaz to VGA???
It´s on the video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7OCyN1PuYc at 1:40 min
Or is there somewhere a better one that takes up the hole screen? In lines or in cubes...
PS: Sorry my English isn´t so good but I think you understand what I ment
DjMIKKI said:
Hi
I´m wondering if somebody can port the EnlargeStartMenu from Topaz to VGA???
It´s on the video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7OCyN1PuYc at 1:40 min
Or is there somewhere a better one that takes up the hole screen? In lines or in cubes...
PS: Sorry my English isn´t so good but I think you understand what I ment
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It looks to me very much like the "Programs" tab. There must be a way to port your start menu items to the programs tab and then you could change your tab order so "programs" is first and act like your start menu, although that means losing your home tab as the main screen. Or maybe the "Start" button could be remapped to flip to the programs tab. (am I opening a can of worms here?)
Would this be possible, or can the programs tab only contain *.EXEs? If it was possible to contain different shortcuts, it would be nice if we could change the name of the tab to "Start" as well. Then the only difference would be the button you use to get to it (Providing the Start button isn't remapped).
So, my idea involves:
1. Finding a way to add things other than EXEs to the "Programs" tab
2. Remapping the "Start" button to make TF3D flip to the "Programs" tab
3. Remapping the right soft-key to open the start menu (so you can still get to it if you need it, but only from the Home tab)
4. Rename the "Programs" tab to "Start" somehow.
Damn, it sounded so much easier in my head...
Maybe porting the Topaz's Start Menu would be quicker!!!
Nice idea but I thought if we can add folders in to the programs tab of manilla (like settings folder and then it opens all settings like when you press on "all programs" in program tab in manilla). or something like that. That`s what I am after. Something like THE TOUCHXPERIENCE PROJECT. Sorry schaps if you have something against it just say it.
We don´t need the start menu at all if this can be done.
solved..!!??
hey guys
i think xboxmod (or a rom cooker) already solved this in his rhodium port for vga devices...
i just remember a post that says "program tab is mapped to start button"
dunno exactly use search engine
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Hi All,
I was wondering of there's a way to change the Start menu or the "Programs" Link in the Start Menu to open another application. I want to develop something like gStart, but for PocketPC (on smartphone u can change the a registry key to set another application as the default app when u click "Start" button). Mio A700 screenshots has a gr8 MioMenu very nice and sexy so i want o do something like that.
thanks for your help
On PPCs the start menu works like in regular windows – there is a folder ("start menu") under windows with all the shortcuts. You can change the files there, create subdirectories etc.
You can also catch the taskbar window (class "SS_TASKBAR I think…) and just cover the start button with your own window.
Hope this helps.
you must edit the shellres.dll file , in this file has the path to the "programs folder"
I think he was pertaining to a custom "programs menu" like calling for example folderview.exe and not the Path or not where the folder is being called.
A programs menu replacement instead of using the defualt one.
I actually saw an app like that some time ago, it was very small like a few kb and just lied in the background waiting for you press the start and when you did it launched an app of your choice instead of showing the start menu...
Don't remember the name though : / think it was based on something called green button or something which is basically the same thing but for the call button... maybe you should around some, or hopefully someone knows what i am talking about and can give you a link
Leonick said:
I actually saw an app like that some time ago, it was very small like a few kb and just lied in the background waiting for you press the start and when you did it launched an app of your choice instead of showing the start menu...
Don't remember the name though : / think it was based on something called green button or something which is basically the same thing but for the call button... maybe you should around some, or hopefully someone knows what i am talking about and can give you a link
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This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486712
You could add a shortcut to any other folder and then hide the programs link. To do this, set the Programs folder to hidden.
allelimo said:
This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486712
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Yup pretty much like that, but except for the Start or Windows Start, the "Programs" with in the start menu is being intercepted and launching an alternative "Programs Menu"
I guess the only way is to make an ordinary Start Menu replacement (same as the defualt Start Menu) with the exception of having the "Programs" launch another program.
This way, looks and feels of WM is still the same.
I use SPB Mobile Shell and I would like to make it so "SPB Menu" comes up when I press the Start button on the top left hand corner.
Is there a way to do this?
I dont think this is possible, but why would you want to do that, a pop up menu is great in my opinion.
I recommend you to assign the spb menu to one of your hardware keys, like the camera key or something like that,
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It is possible - for example QuickMenu can replace the start menu with itself. HTC EnlargeStart Menu does the same. Maybe it needs some kind of registry hack.
tomazez said:
I dont think this is possible, but why would you want to do that, a pop up menu is great in my opinion.
I recommend you to assign the spb menu to one of your hardware keys, like the camera key or something like that,
cu
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I LOVE the SPB Menu and since I use my fingers 99% of the time on my Touch I don't really have a use for the built in Start menu.
I know there has to be a way to do this, I just hope it is a easy one.
I looked through my registry a bit but I didn't see anything that would change this.
It has to be possible.
Is there a way to do a registry dump, perform the HTC Start Menu Tweak and then perform another dump and somehow compare them to see what has changed?
With Wisbar Advance 3 you can map the start button to anything you want.
I installed Wisbar Advance Desktop to play around with when I first got my Touch. I uninstalled it because I didn't like the functionality. After the uninstall I still have Wisbar icons showing up in some of my menu's. There is no way I am going to install one of their bloated products just to do one simple function.
Hi, i am looking for the same Startbutton tweak.
I want to remove the Startbutton AND the word "Start" right to the button.
Wisbar Lite Taskmanager does remove the word "Start".
I'd like to know how this works, and somehow it must be possible to remove or reassign the Startbutton without installing WAD or WA3, a megapackage for only one function.
If someone has the skills to do this and/or write a simple program to make this happen I wouldn't mind compensating them. Either in $$ or Webhosting!
Nothing is being removed in most of these cases, the start button and or title bar is being covered up.
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Nothing is being removed in most of these cases, the start button and or title bar is being covered up.
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I don't want anything removed, I just want to change the link on the Start menu to point to something else.
bump it up!
I compared the registry with the large menu on and off and this is all I found. Not much help (for me anyway).
BIG START MENU
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"DropDown"=dword:00000000
"Enable"=dword:00000001
LITTLE START MENU
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"Enable"=dword:00000000
"DropDown"=dword:00000000
fowen said:
I don't want anything removed, I just want to change the link on the Start menu to point to something else.
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He says that it's not a registry tweak... maybe those programs relocate the title bar and put themselves in that positions looking similar with different functions... That is the way that evb used to work fullscreen (relocating the title bar, sip and taskbar)...
I finally gave in and reinstalled Wisbar Advance. I would rather accomplish this without using Wisbar but for now it will work.
I think the Cube is much nicer and I don't want 2 different menu interfaces its only confusing so do someone know how to disable the old startmenu? or ultimate make the Cube appear when I press the windows button
there is no need for, just dont press the menu button
the cube would need 10 sides to have all of the startmenu. sometimes you NEED the menu
why should the cube open with menu button ? it opens with gesture.
sorry this thread makes no sense for me.
i disabled the cube its nothing more than a ram eating nice launcher. and Ultimatelaunch can do that better and is easy to customize.
One of the 3rd party start menu programs has 2 options, if you press the little windows flag it launches the normal wm menu, and if you press start it gives you big menu, i spose it would be nice if the windows flag could launch the cube (and maybe chaged to a little icon of a cube) and the start bar would launch the normal menu.
because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube
PeacefulWarrior said:
because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube
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I see you are asking this for several days now. in all kind of forums.
I don't have the answer for you, but i will tell you how i would try to find the reg key for example.
I would take a program that takes over the start button function ( quickmenu)
Then i will take a reg editor that can compare 2 registries (CEregeditor)
ok
step 1. make a copy of your registry
step 2. install quickmenu
step 3. compare your old registry with the new one and look wich regkey's quickmenu changed and added. (with the option to replace the windows startbutton on offcource)
step 4. try to find the "one" reg key change and try to make it so that it will start for example biotouch.exe
I hope i did get you started, as i'm not a programmer nor i hae any interest in the function you want to make, i will not try to do it myself therefor i wish you good luck with it and i hope for you that you will find it.
Greetz,
how do i get rid of senseless threads ? hehe
thank you re-mi I will try your description
regards
go to the link in my signature, download the Classblack zip file.. and take vjtogglealphaii from it and put it in your startup folder in "/windows/startup"
itll take off both your start menu and your softkeys... if you need to change anything message me ill tell you how to change the registry
Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1
My startmenu is very fluid to be honest, I got my programs and stuff sorted in folders. Like games, media (coreplayer etc), network (commanager etc), personal (phone, sms, email etc), GPS, system (total commander, resco explorer, reg edit etc). I will install SPB Screenshot and show you how it looks.
Here you go.
metacortexx said:
Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1
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Its still there under the programs tab... ? or at least it is on mine...
sorry if this is a noob question, but how do i add folders to the start menu like you've done? and change icons?
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
colin_85 said:
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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I totally agree. The current Startmenu lack the support for hiding items en ordering them. Love to find a solution.
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
Bruce Inman said:
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
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True, but the TouchFlo "Programs" was much easier.
So am I the only one who's missing the drop-down menu when you tap the Start button - you know, the one that lists seven favourites and your four or five most recent programs?
Why should I navigate the Honeycomb every time I want to go to a program I use about 30 times a day?
Any fixes/hacks to bring this back? Or am I being really stupid and there's a simple option that I haven't found yet?
colin_85 said:
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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You can do this with Topaz Keyboard Controller: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555821
Map the Start button to run the program "\Windows\manila.exe" with arguments "--switchtopage programs.page", and it should work perfectly - does for me.
Hi there!
Ive seen the new shortcuts on the homescreen on every video again and again. The number of programs you can add there is extensible but limited. So is there an "All Programs" button like on previous TouchFlo versions on the programs tab or at least a possibility to see all programs installed? Maybe im blind or have forgotten about it but i think i havent seen something like this on any video.
Thanks!
Phil
Sadly, it doesn't exist. I have been asking around if anyone can port the old Manila 2.1 start menu and program tab over yet, but no one has responded to say yes it can be done
Damnit...so theres no scrollable list with all programs installed on the device in Sense anymore? Really no way?
Isn't WM 6.5 start menu about the same ?
Yes and I believe that's exactly the reason why the programs tab is gone.
Yeah, could be the reason for it. But a bad exchange if you ask me...but there are other programs out there that could be useful to me like TouchLaunch.
-Vulture- said:
Hi there!
Ive seen the new shortcuts on the homescreen on every video again and again. The number of programs you can add there is extensible but limited. So is there an "All Programs" button like on previous TouchFlo versions on the programs tab or at least a possibility to see all programs installed? Maybe im blind or have forgotten about it but i think i havent seen something like this on any video.
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The "All Programs" button in TouchFlo just went to an icon view of the "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder - This is exactly what tapping the "Start" button in WM-6.5 now does.
a great alternative for this is a program called launchpad which gives you a program launcher from the taskbas star shortcut but also give you the normal windos shotcut fron the hard key below. try it you wont be dissapointed
from 4pda.ru forum
1. disable manila
2. delete key HKLM>Software>HTC>Manila>Configuration, if exists
3. install the cab
4. delete ManilaFull.xml from /Windows
5. SR
6. enable manila
thanks to jamrecords
sorry for my english