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Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad

related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John

I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.

Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks

Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem

Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Using only Wifi

How do you select what network connection to use? 99% of the time I only ever want the phone to connect to the internet over Wifi (or bluetooth/cable connection to the computer) and not using Cingular's network. There is the occasional time that I would like to enable that but most of the time I want to only use the Wifi. Where can I set so it doesn't connect to Cingular accidentally (say if I'm out of Wifi range or hit the wrong button) so i don't get large data charges?
Thanks

In connexion option set default internet connexion as "my work network" and privat network default as "my work network" as well.

So lemme just confirm something - unless I configure server settings on the a HTC TyTN (using stock rom) on the Cingular network - it will not be able to use Cingulars network right? The only time I will be able to access the internet with the phone is over wifi, bluetooth connection (or USB) with an internet enabled computer. Otherwise the internet will not function and I will not be charged data charges correct?
I don't really ever find myself using the internet on a phone when I'm away from home so I can't justify the expense of the data service but I work on a few websites that I'd like to look good on a cellphone so that's my main reason for wanting internet access on it - so while I'm at work I can log into the wifi system and test the site while I'm tweaking the code.
Am I correct in assuming that I shouldn't be charged under this situation?

Hi, I'm on Vodafone and I made the changes fun_key posted without noting down the original settings. Please can someone tell me what the default settings are for internet connection and private network connection. Thanks

At home, GPRS vs. Wi-Fi

Everyone,
Apologies, and I know this is a stupid question, but when at home with my htc tound pro, with WiFi on, and connected, why do I need the phone on too for the WiFi to work,...?
Also, when both are on and working, which system is used, i.e., the SIM card connection or the WiFi connection,...?
WiFi I pay a flat monthly rate for unlimited data, with the SIM card I am on a fixed amount of data transfer per month,...
Thanks for listening,
ek

Well..
You may be using an application that is not Wifi aware. So, it demands a GPRS/EDGE/3G connection. So - in effect - it's not actually using the Wifi connection.
If you can use the application with Wifi on, and phone off - it's Wifi aware. (Meaning it can utilize Wifi).
If you can't use the application without the phone being on - it's not Wifi aware or has not been configured to use the Wifi.
What application are you having issues with?

thanks for getting back to me,... WM Professional 6.1 and the Internet Explorer program when going on to the web,... i'm just wondering which systems does the phone use when both are functioning,... am i using the gprs from my SIM card or am I using the wi-fi in my home,...? and why do i need the phone turned on to use the wi-fi in my home,...?
thanks again,...
ek

you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs

did you set the gprs settings to your gsm provider?
i would prefer wifi over gprs/3g anyday unless if your home internet is extremely slow ( <300kbps). the battery life would be almost equal so why not a faster connection?

Rudegar said:
you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs
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I'd like to understand how WM decides which network to use when it has a choice e.g. HSDPA and WiFi. I've looked at the settings mentioned above and I currently have Internet using Contract Internet (HSDPA) and Work using WiFi as the WiFi networks I connect to are firewalled and privately addressed.
What settings should I have to ensure that when I have the choice of WiFi and HSDPA (at home) I use WiFi, and when out and about I use HSDPA?

Everytime an application wants to connect to the net:
- If wifi is connected and GSM isn't, it uses Wifi
- If wifi isn't connected, it tries connecting to GSM and will use that.
- If both are connected - we don't really know what happens.
When you're at home, check that GSM is not connected (no little E, G, 3G or H on the signal bar icon, disconnect it if connected), turn on wifi, wait until the arrows have stopped moving on the Wifi icons, and now you can launch the program that wants to connect to the net, and it will use wifi.
If at this point you get a popup about the phone connecting to GSM data again, then there's a connectivity problem on your Wifi and the device can't reach the net through it.
You might want to install Modaco Nodata, it allows you do disable automatic connection to GSM so that you can be sure it doesn't connect when you don't want it to.

mine never use gprs when it have wifi

I have a Touch HD and I can make things work fine by manually turning off the data connection then turning on WiFi in the comm manager when I'm at home or vice versa when I'm out and about.
I would have thought win mobile 6.1 would have been a mature enough OS to allow this to be configured automatically. This and Opera are my only outstanding issues with the HD.

Strange. I can easily shut my phone off, enable wifi & browse fine.

Wi-Fi as default

Is there a way of making the HD2 use wireless only when connected to a wireless connection and useing the Data connection only when wireless is unavailable?

ShaGGy_UK said:
Is there a way of making the HD2 use wireless only when connected to a wireless connection and useing the Data connection only when wireless is unavailable?
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start/settings/wireless controls/menu/connections..
then select..
you can download 'nodata' on here and use it to disable data connection when you are not using it..

I had to disable the proxy server for my 3G service provider and set the Broadcom 802.11 DHD Network Adaptor to connect to "The Internet". I did the same to my email accounts.
now it switches automaticly if wifi is on and if not it always uses 3G.
It will still connect to 3G when I wake up the phone but that's because some background apllications (like internet time and location) only seem to work over 3G. And probably for a reason.

Just gave it another try. Wifi takes over (and auto-disables) 3G connection fully. Twitter and Weather are updated fine using Wifi.

Just had a read about 'nodata' but that isn`t what i was looking for.
Ideally when in wi-fi range phone should use wi-fi.
when out of wi-fi range data connect connects
when you return to wi-fi it reconnects to wi-fi and drop data
i.e wifi connected = no data connection allowed
no wi-fi connection = data connection allowed

Basically, you need to leave the wifi on all the time for what you're asking, and that will destroy your battery life!
You can set it to not notify you of finding wifi connections in range, but it will constantly be looking for them (see All Settings, Sounds & Notifications). When it finds the one that you have told it it can use (you can only have 1 of them if you do it this way), it will start to use it. Once wifi has connected, your phone simply won't use the data connection.
It's that simple, but I'd highly recommend against it.

it's normal on mobile phones to only turn wifi on when you need it .. all phones with wifi I owned worked that way. And like johncmolyneux already said the reason is battery life and the constant searching for networks would lag your device with other operations.
I don't blame people that they keep confusing this device with a notebook as it almost is one, but then again a notebook only lasts a few hours with wifi on..

gabbs said:
start/settings/wireless controls/menu/connections..
then select..
you can download 'nodata' on here and use it to disable data connection when you are not using it..
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I belive this is what I need to do.
I travel between a few sites with wifi, what setting do I actualy need to change? you say "then select" but what? sorry for sounding dense.
or when your phone is in range and connects to wifi, does it automaticly use the wifi not the data conenction?

Janesy said:
I belive this is what I need to do.
I travel between a few sites with wifi, what setting do I actualy need to change? you say "then select" but what? sorry for sounding dense.
or when your phone is in range and connects to wifi, does it automaticly use the wifi not the data conenction?
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If you have wifi on, your phone won't use your data connection.

[Q] Guest Wifi Timeout

At my place of work, the open/guest Wi-Fi times out after about 1 hour, which requires re-authenticating through a webpage. When my connection to the network times out, my N4 graciously notifies me that I need to sign in to the network again. This is all well and fine. My question though is, why does my N4 continue to try to use the Wi-Fi connection if I have "Avoid poor connections" checked under the Advanced Wi-Fi settings? This setting indicates that it won't use a Wi-Fi network unless it has a good Internet connection. I would like to use the Wi-Fi, but when the connection is no longer available, I would like my N4 to start using the mobile network...is this possible?