I know a lot of us have been wondering, debating, anticipating whether the X1i will support both U.S. 3G bands. There has even been hope with the awesome reviews/wealth of info posted by BengalBoy on his site. His latest commercial proto X1i shows 5 UMTS BANDS! I almost fell over when I saw that. Could the X1i really have penta-band? I would rather have the X1i over the X1a if possible due to the 30fps recording, etc...
Up to this point the Sony Website for the UK says yes to 5 bands...
However, as mentioned by X1rocks on BB's site, a Swede, "Vigge" over on the Inxperia forums posted the band info listed on his retail X1i box recently...
Here it is:
*On the box: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 & UMTS eu1/us2/eu8
That means UMTS 900/1900/2100!
Damn!
Even though BB has 5 UMTS options on his phone, it could simply be "options" that don't have any hardware backup like some people mentioned with the UK Touch Pro...
Sadly, I'm leaning towards the possibility that the X1i will only have 3 UMTS bands, 2 for EU, 1 for U.S. Might have to cancel my order with Clove if this gets enough confirmation...
Any thoughts?
update
Pretty much confirmed that X1i has 1900 UMTS only. Thanks everyone for the replies...
Yes you are correct. The whitepapers have indicated the X1i will have UMTS 900/1900/2100 and Qualcomm 7200A for 30fps recording, while the X1a will have UMTS 850/1900/2100 and Qualcomm 7201A for 24fps recording.
Software options should be taken with a huge grain of salt, as you correctly note with the UK Touch Pro. AFAIK there is no proof that any single model of the X1 will support 5 UMTS bands in the radio, so it is very difficult to make that assumption right now.
In that case, it's crappy news for U.S. users, especially since the X1a likely won't make it's way into the States until early '09.
Damn UMTS bands.... I suppose sharing something common with the rest of the world would be too much to ask for...
Finally nixed my order with Clove this morning...
So in short, the version that is coming to Clove next week will NOT have 3g in the USA..?
That's what I'm wondering... Sent them an e-mail yesterday to confirm that there will be no 850 3G... Still have not heard back... This is absurd... I cannot understand how definitive specs have not been posted. Most Swedish users report no 850 3G present, but, some UK stores say that it will have 850 3G present. I'm confused, tired, and hungry. Damn you X1!
My Vodafone (UK) X1 handset has the following band options under phone settings:
The band options on my Vodafone X1 are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Hope this helps.
Yes!!!! It Works With At&t. Period
OdieS said:
My Vodafone (UK) X1 handset has the following band options under phone settings:
The band options on my Vodafone X1 are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!
It works in USA with AT&T 3G!!!!!!!!
THANKS!
OdieS said:
My Vodafone (UK) X1 handset has the following band options under phone settings:
The band options on my Vodafone X1 are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
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I've been torn between X1 and Fuze, and this might be a significant decision point -- I really want to believe this but can we safely assume the presence of US 3G bands in the band options guarantees that the hardware itself supports it? or when you activate it in US it would just throw an error?
Edit: changed "Touch Pro" to "Fuze" - TP might not have US 3g hardware
Oh man, I'm still confused as hell and SO badly want to order the damn X1i from the UK
Like I said, Swedish users are saying 900/1900/2100 3G
UK shops and users are saying there is a 850mhz option, BUT, could it simply be an option that when selected leads to a network error like some other users have suggested?? Some other HTC phones have this option...
WTF??!!! Why so much confusion...
"Software options should be taken with a huge grain of salt, as you correctly note with the UK Touch Pro."
This is what I mean when I say the 850/1900 UMTS option could be software only, as fhseih mentioned...
There is no 850MHZ on the X1i, period. Get over it. So..NO the X1i will not work with At&t 3G in the USA or any other GSM provider in the USA on their 3G networks i.e. T-mobile. Edge will work just fine, so you can do everything, but surf the internet super fast and likely GPS will be slow too.....wait a week until we hear the X1a annoucements.
Actually, the X1i will work on AT&T 3G via 1900mhz.
However, I did get an e-mail from Clove (seemingly) confirming that the X1i will not have the 850mhz 3G option.
So there you go. If you want 850 UMTS just to be safe that you will get the ultimate 3G performance in the U.S. wait for the X1a like me...
This is the sticker on the side of my box. Have no idea what the UMTS US2 is, but I'm sure it'll mean something to those in America.
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Artesea,
Thanks for posting that..
As I already was told, that means the X1i has UMTS 1900, but not 850, as I thought..
So, at this point, it would seem, it is confirmed...
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There is no 850MHZ on the X1i, period. Get over it. So..NO the X1i will not work with At&t 3G in the USA or any other GSM provider in the USA on their 3G networks i.e. T-mobile. Edge will work just fine, so you can do everything, but surf the internet super fast and likely GPS will be slow too.....wait a week until we hear the X1a annoucements.
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Wrong! AT&T 3G works mostly over UMTS 1900.
The coverage map the 850 overlaps in most places with 1900
I'm in New York here ATT have both 850/1900 and G3
IMPORTANT: No all areas with 1900 have 3G. If you are close to metropolitan areas you might be lucky. Check this map. or go to AT&T site and check coverage locally.
http://cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml
get fieldtest.exe to check if ATT has 1900umts 3G in your area! most htc phones should have fieldtest.exe in /windows folder.
Yes, but wait for the US version and you also get crappy video recording and have to wait an eternity to get it.
I'm hoping the 1900 3G is reliable in my area. Damn them - why couldn't they do pentaband 3G.
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Yes, but wait for the US version and you also get crappy video recording and have to wait an eternity to get it.
I'm hoping the 1900 3G is reliable in my area. Damn them - why couldn't they do pentaband 3G.
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Because the lawsuit is only in NA
I understand that most of At&t's original "3g" network is 1900mhz, this however doesn't mean much to most people and if you are expecting speeds to be faster using 1900mhz over 850mhz EDGE/2G you are mistaken. In many cases they are very similar..
1900mhz provides a larger coverage area with fewer towers, this results in slower speeds and weak penetration. Meaning you will have more trouble getting signal indoors and if you have good signal don't expect much speed increase over Edge.
850mhz is shorter range and higher penetration, this offers the 3G speeds most people would expect and good reception indoors. The problem is coverage area is smaller so if you need to be closer to towers for good service. Metro areas have large clusters of towers so signal is usually better, but if its only 1900mhz its still going to be slower. This is the main issue with iphone 3G in the USA and reportedly bad speeds. It runs specifically on 1900mhz frequency for 3G. The reason 850 coverage is less is because their Edge/2G is specifically 850mhz so replacing towers with 3G specific ones kills phones with out 3G radios equipped for the band.
The reason I am saying it "doesn't work" is because for true 3G signal/speed etc you want a combination of 850mhz and 1900mhz..or solid 850 coverage..most areas don't have this yet. In my case I live in a City with solid 850mhz and 1900mhz coverage. So 3G on 1900mhz isn't horrible, its no where near as good as 850MHZ 3G in the same building.
Would these help?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
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Hello all,
I am posting this in the General forum as I believe it is a general question, although partly related to the new Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 phone. To make a long story short, I am trying to discover which exact frequencies Rogers/Fido uses for their 3G network.
I called Fido today and even the CSR couldn't give me a concrete answer. I would hope to find the real answer out as this will help people interested in using EU/ASIA phones in Canada.
For more information (and so I don't have to double-type), please check the post I made in the Xperia forums below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2745513&postcount=10
Hopefully any other fellow Canadians out there can help to confirm if Rogers/Fido supports 850 + 1900 + 2100mhz 3G frequency bands (I doubt the 2100).
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Hello all,
Hopefully any other fellow Canadians out there can help to confirm if Rogers/Fido supports 850 + 1900 + 2100mhz 3G frequency bands (I doubt the 2100).
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To the best of my knowledge, Fido is 1900 _only_, Rogers is 850/1900, and they use 850 for 3G, NOT 2100 (2100 is Japan and so on).
I base this on the fact that originally in the late 1990s, Fido would bill itself as 1900MHz service, and Rogers differentiated by claiming 850 reaches better into harder to reach areas like basements, etc.; and now that they are one, they probably share the spectrum.
When they launched the 3G network, they went with 850.
OT but have you gotten your hands on the X1 yet?
[edit] oops just read your thread.
These may be of help:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?referrerid=295219&t=1441969
http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1259262-1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Wireless (claims 850MHz for 3G, no 1900)
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To the best of my knowledge, Fido is 1900 _only_, Rogers is 850/1900, and they use 2100 for 3G, so you are correct.
I base this on the fact that originally in the late 1990s, Fido would bill itself as 1900MHz service, and Rogers differentiated by claiming 850 reaches better into harder to reach areas like basements, etc.; and now that they are one, they probably share the spectrum.
OT but have you gotten your hands on the X1 yet?
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I haven't actually got my hands on the X1 yet, as I really want to confirm as to whether or not I should get the X1i or X1a...I have been waiting forever and I'm tempted to risk getting the X1i (900/1900/2100mhz 3G), however I am not totally confident that it will work on the Rogers' 3G network.
You claim that Rogers and Fido both use 2100mhz for 3G, and if that is the case, then the X1i should work. I was under the impression that 2100mhz wasn't even used with Rogers, and it was a question of 850 or 1900mhz for 3G. Also, it would appear that Fido no longer has it's own towers, and they only use the Rogers' ones for now. Therefore, I don't believe there would be a difference between Fido or Rogers' actual GSM/3G service.
I'm not so much confused, but rather uninformed as to what frequenct the Rogers' 3G service uses. Whether it's a difference between 850/1900/2100, it would still be good to know if ALL are available in the Toronto area.
Hopefully more Canadians see this thread and can elaborate as to which exact frequency Rogers' 3G truly is.
Thanks for your input Pseudo Nim, it's greatly appreciated to get more info on this issue!
** EDIT ** - Here's what I found from the digitalhome.ca forums which seems to make sense to me (as I remember seeing elsewhere that 850 AND 1900mhz 3G is supported, but Rogers may be turning off 3G on 1900mhz to save bandwidth for voice data). Check the post here:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=642523&postcount=11
Looks like I might just wait (even longer) and get the X1a to guarantee that it will access the Rogers 3G network on 850mhz (if they do end up using that frequency exclusively).
damnit!
Hi there,
Here's a few links that may help:
http://store.nokia.ca/support.php?page=faq (Search page for Rogers)
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=652905
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ca.shtml
To summarize: It looks like both Rogers and Fido operate on the GSM 850/1900. Before Rogers bought Fido though, Fido was using only GSM 1900 (which is why some older sources say that Fido is only GSM 1900).
If you're a Fido subscriber, I'm not sure if you would have to pay for the "Rogers Extended Network" coverage to get on their 850 band.
EGMine said:
To summarize: It looks like both Rogers and Fido operate on the GSM 850/1900. Before Rogers bought Fido though, Fido was using only GSM 1900 (which is why some older sources say that Fido is only GSM 1900).
If you're a Fido subscriber, I'm not sure if you would have to pay for the "Rogers Extended Network" coverage to get on their 850 band.
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Good point about the Extended Network charge, I will have to call Fido and ask them if I would be able to connect to 3G/HSDPA on the 850mhz band. The thing is, when I was talking with the Fido CSR today, he claimed that Fido no longer really even has towers, and that ALL traffic is over the Rogers network.
I would love to figure out which band I am on, however I have an HTC Universal with NO 3G capabilities, so all I would see is the GSM network (would still be nice, altho I'm not even sure if the Uni i have supports the 850mhz band...I'm currently on 1900mhz). Does anyone know how to verify information like this under WinMo?
I know the GSM voice frequencies of Rogers/Fido, however it was rumoured that 3G was going to be disabled on the 1900mhz band, because 850mhz was stronger, and they needed to free up voice bandwidth.
Anyways, if there is a way to do a field test in WinMo, it would be good to know so I can see more details of what I'm connected to. I'll start hunting and post a link if I come across it first tho.
This is probably a mute point but i'm sure it's safe to say that Rogers doesn't operate 3G on either 900 or 2100. I've got a touch pro and it doesn't work on 3G at all. My Kaiser did altho I only got about 3Mbps speeds which's why i went for the TP. Shoulda stuck with the Kaiser heh.
My X1i doesn't seem to be connecting to Rogers under 3G (only EDGE)....
But why is this setting here then? I want X1a ROM's please! hehe
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I get 3G in some places and Edge in smaller cities with Rogers
rogers does also have SOME 1700Mhz t-mobile version of 3g setup in Vancouver because of the olympics, now it certainly doesnt compare to the 3.5G that i get with a rogers device, but its better then nothing.
my x1iii works rogers 3G
i'm in Toronto and my x1i 3G is working now out of know where
jdx1 said:
i'm in Toronto and my x1i 3G is working now out of know where
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JDX, are you positive that it's on 3G/HSDPA? I also have an X1i (since November 2008) and I have yet to get on 3G with it...good God I hope this is true...
Also, are you in the downtown core, or out in the suburbs?
jdx1, you are not crazy. I am getting 3G now too!
Matt1408 said:
jdx1, you are not crazy. I am getting 3G now too!
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u serious???
My i8910 HD has same GSM 850/900/1900/2100, and UMTS 900/1900/2100, but NO 3G since I bought it a few months ago
I'm on Fido (which uses Rogers network), but live in Calgary thou....
I gave up on 3G at first, but if this miracle is true, u must tell me how u got this to work!?
I work at St Clair and Yonge, before 2 weeks ago, i have been getting GPRS (not even edge) with my Atom life (1900/2100). The only place that I have ever seen 3G is right outside the urban behavior store in erin mills, for some reason i get 3G there.
Since 2 weeks ago, i have been getting constant 3G icon when my phone is on my working deskop.
As i walk down the street, i get H icon and when i try to sync with MyPhone, it is blazing fast.. compared to what i have before.
I have to commment tho, in some places it goes on and off, and sometimes the reception for voice isnt that great as compared to before.
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u serious???
My i8910 HD has same GSM 850/900/1900/2100, and UMTS 900/1900/2100, but NO 3G since I bought it a few months ago
I'm on Fido (which uses Rogers network), but live in Calgary thou....
I gave up on 3G at first, but if this miracle is true, u must tell me how u got this to work!?
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I'm in the vancouver downtown area, and noticed that my x1i is now connecting 3g / H as well!
I hope it's not just temporary.. .did a couple speed tests, and it ranges from 200kb - 600kb.
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I was on the bus today in the morning coming down 16th, and my X1i constantly changed from E to 3g and H between Oak and Cambie, West 16th.
Thanx, guys for all the replies, u r all SO lucky lol!
****, if only this miracle can come to Calgary soon enough...
Update: 3 weeks later:
and it DID haha, I abandoned Fido, and so now get 3g+ with Telus's new HSPA network....
I posted on HowardForums about this:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=13131032
according to toolcube, rogers is indeed building out more capacity on the 1900 band.
Well, I'm pretty sure that fido is only using the 1900 network, as stated on their website.
Frequency
The rate at which a waveform or signal alternates. This rate is usually measured in hertz, a unit meaning cycles per second. Voice and data transmission is expressed in millions of hertz, called megahertz (MHz). 1900, 1800, 900 and 850 MHz are the main frequency bands. Fido uses the 1900 band.
http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/Glossary
and says that they run 3g as well (what it appears anyways)
3G
A third generation of wireless developments, it uses a mobile wireless technology called HSPA. HSPA (High Speed Packet Access) is the latest evolution of GSM—the dominant world-wide standard for mobile wireless communications. It allows you to enjoy the kind of high-speed Internet and multimedia experience previously only possible on a PC, and gives you first-hand access to high-speed mobile Internet, Video Calling, streaming video, radio on demand, your favourite TV programs, music and mobile communities all on your Fido.
Looked into this yesterday since Rogers is the only carrier selling the HTC Hero which also works on AT&T.
Rogers and AT&T use the same 3G frequencies, so all handsets work on each others networks: 850/1900 for UMTS.
The rest of the world seems to be 900/2100.
And T-Mobile USA is 1700?
Hi Everyone,
I got my X1i on Tuesday. It's obviously a UK import, but so was my TyTN II and it worked great. When I got everything set up, I couldn't get more than 200kbps on dslreports. I put the sim card back in my TyTN II and retested, and got 1.2Mbps.
If I turn off HSDPA/HSUPA the data rate drops to 30kbps. I've played with every combination of data and voice bands and can't get the same performance as the TyTN. I do notice that my X1 never shows the H icon in the status bar like my other phone to indicate high speed (HSDPA).
The bands are exactly the same with a minor addition.
GSM: 900+1800 UMTS: 2100 + 800
GSM: 1900 + 850 UMTS: 1900 + 850
UMTS: 2100 + 800
AT&T seems to run on the middle one.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be holding my back? Same SIM, same data plan, etc.
Thanks very much in advance!!!
Hi,
Where do you live? Could be you only have UMTS 850 coverage... But, could also be something else..
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Hi,
Where do you live? Could be you only have UMTS 850 coverage... But, could also be something else..
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I live near Reno, NV. The wierd thing is I literally power down, move the sim to my TyTN II and bingo! I get incredible speeds. Short of getting into the registry I have gone through and confirmed all the GPRS and HSDPA settings are exactly the same.
I think what dbond45 was saying is that you might be in an area that uses 850 band which isn't actually on the x1i. The tytn II on the other hand has the 850 band from what i understand so that might be why ur getting great speeds with ur tytn II.
Bxsteez said:
I think what dbond45 was saying is that you might be in an area that uses 850 band which isn't actually on the x1i. The tytn II on the other hand has the 850 band from what i understand so that might be why ur getting great speeds with ur tytn II.
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Ah, so you're thinking that even though it says it supports 1900+850 in the control panel, the 850 band may be disabled in the radio? I'm pretty technical, but would have no idea how to test that. Any ideas?
By the way, thanks for talking this through with me. I hope it's benefitting others too.
Yes from what i've read all over the place that the 850 radio is disabled. I know that even though the software says u can enable those bands it doesn't actually mean u can. I have the touch pro and it has all of the different bands in the settings and we all know no one can get 3G in the US. So it looks like that is what ur running into. I've read on howard forums at some point a way to test to see if u are working on the 850 band but i don't remember how they did it.
Bxsteez,
The program is fieldtest.exe, and you can find it under windows in your file explorer on the X1, once in WIndows, scroll down to fieldtest.exe and run, although I'm not sure what all the values me..
There is a dispute as to whether the X1i has UMTS 850 (see pocketnow.com post, but, IMHO, I don't think it does, although I wished it did)
Lemme do some research and see if I can find what band Reno is running on. It's very likely it's 850 3G since a) it's a newer market, and b) it's a rural area compared to large cities which use 1900 mhz UMTS...
From what i was reading on howard forums Canada only uses UMTS 850 and the people who have the x1i are reporting only edge speeds.
Indeed you all were right about the discussions on Howard Forums. Read through a lot of them. Thanks for the pointer to fieldtest.exe. I'm digging through it now. I'm hopeful that S/E just threw a software switch in their stack for 850Mhz so the X1i wouldn't carp any of Cingular's sales on the upcoming X1a. Hopeful and maybe a little naive.
X1 on AT&T
I had a similar instance yesterday, sent the X1 back. The same 3 choices for UMTS in WM Phone settings, I selected the 850/1900 bands. I got the H but it was slow. Moved my SIM back to the BlackJack II and worked just fine.
I think the ROM or WM6.1 Stamp they are using is incorrect.
The Xperia Box, on the white label shows UMTS EU1 US3 EU4 I believe which to me would mean 900/1900/2100 I am not positive about the last EU being 3 or 4 since I have mailed the phone already. There are a lot of listings on ebay which show UMTS 850/1900/2100 which I truly believe is incorrect and are being used from a Feb 08 page on gsm arena. Expansys USA told me they had both flavors, then the next day all you see on the US site is the 900/1900/2100.
The US ver is not released ( X1a) from what I read here and everywhere else.
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Bxsteez,
There is a dispute as to whether the X1i has UMTS 850 (see pocketnow.com post, but, IMHO, I don't think it does, although I wished it did)
Lemme do some research and see if I can find what band Reno is running on. It's very likely it's 850 3G since a) it's a newer market, and b) it's a rural area compared to large cities which use 1900 mhz UMTS...
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1. There is no dispute. Only dumb people. the X1i DOES NOT have 850mhz UMTS band, the hardware isn't even in the phone. It falsely displayed 850+1900MHZ because it does 1900MHZ and WM assumes that if it has 1900 it must have 850. It doesn't..
2. Reno does in fact run a predominately 850mhz 3G networking using At&t (not cingular, its been over a year since they got bought out) Your speed is likely because of this. Oddly if your phone is set to auto negotiate networks it should pick up EDGE service and show a "G" does it display a G rather than an H? You said the H doesn't display when you force 850+1900 UMTS right? The question is what does come up? Signal strength etc.?
If you import a phone from the UK you need to be prepared to be disappointed with speeds, simple fact, most UK phones don't even support 1900mhz, its there for roaming purposes on the X1. Same reason the X1a will have 850/1900/2100 UMTS. 1900mhz band is the weaker of the 2 used by At&t... 1900mhz was the first frequency they used, they used it so save costs and setup a marginally OK 3G network on a larger area. 1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850, this results in slower speeds and poor reception depending on your location from the nearest tower. 850 is lower frequency and there for more dense, this translates into faster speeds and better reception. Most new areas of at&ts 3G network are spread around with 850mhz. Older markets are a combination of 850mhz/1900mhz and some just 1900mhz.
The point is, if you are blissfully unaware of all this then your best bet is to send the phone back and wait for the US release.
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1900mhz band is the weaker of the 2 used by At&t... 1900mhz was the first frequency they used, they used it so save costs and setup a marginally OK 3G network on a larger area. 1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850, this results in slower speeds and poor reception depending on your location from the nearest tower. 850 is lower frequency and there for more dense, this translates into faster speeds and better reception. Most new areas of at&ts 3G network are spread around with 850mhz. Older markets are a combination of 850mhz/1900mhz and some just 1900mhz.
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FYI: The data transmission speed doesn't depend on frequency. Both 850 and 1900 bands are capable to provide the same speed.
mlinz said:
1. There is no dispute. Only dumb people. the X1i DOES NOT have 850mhz UMTS band, the hardware isn't even in the phone. It falsely displayed 850+1900MHZ because it does 1900MHZ and WM assumes that if it has 1900 it must have 850. It doesn't..QUOTE]
Actually, I along with many others are fully aware the X1i does not have 850 UMTS listed on the box, in the specs, etc. I even made a post about it. HOWEVER, there is a VERY SLIGHT chance it does, and SE never mentioned it in the specs for some unknown reason. If you go to pocketnow.com, Brandon CONFIRMS he spoke to 3 SE reps from the X1 support line who said the X1i had 850 UMTS support. Only 1 said it only had 900/1900/2100 UMTS as listed on the box. 3/4 reps saying it has 850 UMTS, along with the fact he supposedly only gets 850 UMTS where he lives, and is getting HSDPA on the X1i leaves a glimmer of hope for everyone out there, even if it is dismally small.
As far as the "false display" 850/1900 mhz option it is not so much a false display as a software option on most HTC phones, including the euro touch pro...
Anyways, I'm getting decent HSDPA coverage in Chicago...
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joedoe said:
FYI: The data transmission speed doesn't depend on frequency. Both 850 and 1900 bands are capable to provide the same speed.
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They may output the same speed initially, but 1900 you usually get less bars depending on your location to the tower and less bars means slower speeds.
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1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850
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You got this backwards. Think AM and FM. AM can be picked up much farther away.
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You got this backwards. Think AM and FM. AM can be picked up much farther away.
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My bad, I do that a lot
On the TMo site, if you do a compare of the G2 with other phones (e.g. the Vibrant), you will see that the G2 is NOT noted as an international phone. Is this possible, or just a screw-up on the TMo site?
It looks like the G2 will lack 2100 Mhz for 3G in Europe but it is quad band GSM, so it will fall back to edge.
The Vibrant on the other hand has 2100 Mhz and a quad band GSM, so it will get both 3G and edge reception.
atlp99 said:
It looks like the G2 will lack 2100 Mhz for 3G in Europe but it is quad band GSM, so it will fall back to edge.
The Vibrant on the other hand has 2100 Mhz and a quad band GSM, so it will get both 3G and edge reception.
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that is very odd but i suppose they want you to only use this thing in the us or they dont want you to unlock it and be able to use 3g on at&t network. but i guess if thats a big issue you could always get the desire z it has less rom but i seriously doubt you will use all of the rom i mean you have 1.5gb which is more than double any other HTC phone 2 date.
I'm pretty sure the G2 will have 2100 Mhz band to use in Europe and Asia. It'll be a huge shocker if it doesn't considering that most of their phones have 2100 Mhz.
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I'm pretty sure the G2 will have 2100 Mhz band to use in Europe and Asia. It'll be a huge shocker if it doesn't considering that most of their phones have 2100 Mhz.
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I don't know jack about the different bands used, so answer me this:
If the G2 has the 2100Mhz band then there is nothing stopping me buying and using it in the UK? I'd rather have the 4GB onboard ROM!
crazy
It would indeed be crazy if the G2 couldn't pick up 3G outside of the US. I mean, my G1 is able to (after I unlocked it and used other carriers' sims, etc.). I'm just hoping it's really just a screw up on the Tmo website. However, all this talk about bands and such is beyond me, but makes me nervous. If anyone can officially clear things up, would be much appreciated. Cheers.
setspeed said:
I don't know jack about the different bands used, so answer me this:
If the G2 has the 2100Mhz band then there is nothing stopping me buying and using it in the UK? I'd rather have the 4GB onboard ROM!
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See, all T-Mobile phones till now, have the 2100Mhz band. Infact its universal in almost all smartphones..
The only thing that will prevent you from getting the G2, is that it will be locked to T-Mobile. If you're just picking it up without a contract, and you're not an existing T-Mobile customer, I doubt they will unlock it for you.
Other alternatives are getting the unlock codes from eBay, I've done it previously for many BlackBerries and they worked perfectly, but I can't vouch for Android phones.
Or wait for XDA community to come up with a way to unlock it, but I feel that might be a software unlock restricted to that particular baseband AFAIK.
Also, T-Mobile smartphones usually have 2 bands, 1700Mhz(for TMo's 3G) and 2100Mhz for Europe and Rest of World. The Vibrant somehow has 1900, maybe because Samsung didn't bother to remove it or dunno why. But I'm pretty sure the G2 will have 1700 and 2100Mhz bands, I will be shocked if it doesn't.
Alternatively, the Desire Z will not have the 1700Mhz band, but I think it will have 900/1900/2100 Mhz for other parts of the world. AFAIK, Japan and some carriers in Australia uses 1900. Europe as a whole uses 2100.
AT&T smartphones uses 850Mhz band, but in some cities they still have the old 1900Mhz band running.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
That list should tell you where all the different bands are used. Note that Japanese carriers use a different type of 1700Mhz band in comparison to T-Mobile USA.
G2 2100 Mhz ?
It struck me as odd that the G2 is listed as not having 2100 Mhz 3g. It may very well be a typo, Phonescoop lists the G2 as having both 1700Mhz and 2100 Mhz.
The 3G frequency that T-Mobile USA uses is not a pure 1700 Mhz, It actually uses one frequency for uplink and a different one for downlink to communicate with the towers. It uses 1700 Mhz for one and 2100 Mhz for the other, I forget which is uplink and downlink.
Most of the rest of the world ouside of the USA uses 2100 Mhz for both uplink and downlink for 3G.
Because of this all T-Mobile 3G smartphones have been able to use 3G on the 2100 Mhz frequency outside the US. It seems unlikely that HTC would disable 2100 Mhz on the G2 especially since it is basically the same as the Desire Z in europe.
Actually, if you looked at the Wiki, 2100Mhz band means 1900Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink. The 1700Mhz spectrum that T-Mobile USA uses is 1700Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink. Very similar... but still very different.
Take a look at the UMTS frequency band wiki page that I have posted in the above post of mine, you should be able to understand how it works.
From what I understand, UMTS services are differentiated by "Bands" rather than frequencies. Many other T-Mobile phones are Band IV AND Band I, whereas this phone is only Band IV.
Europe uses Bands I and VIII (which are the bands which the Desire Z supports).
Neither of these phones can get 3G on AT&T.
Only the G2 can get 3G in the US and Canada.
Most of the Americas primarily support Bands V and II (850/1900Mhz), including AT&T.
So there may be a "latin american" version which will work with AT&T.
So just to make things a bit clear, will the T-Mobile G2 use 3G and HSDPA in the UK & Europe if I unlock it and insert a UK simcard in there or will it be stucked on EDGE?
I'm pretty sure it will work on 3G in Europe(2100Mhz Band). But we can only be sure when the phone releases.
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From what I understand, UMTS services are differentiated by "Bands" rather than frequencies. Many other T-Mobile phones are Band IV AND Band I, whereas this phone is only Band IV.
Europe uses Bands I and VIII (which are the bands which the Desire Z supports).
Neither of these phones can get 3G on AT&T.
Only the G2 can get 3G in the US and Canada.
Most of the Americas primarily support Bands V and II (850/1900Mhz), including AT&T.
So there may be a "latin american" version which will work with AT&T.
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I doubt there will be a latin american version. The G2 will work on T-Mobile, and the Desire Z is an unlocked G2 with 900/1900/2100 Band support (I'm presuming).
I think the G2 will have 1700Mhz(for T-Mobile) and 2100Mhz(for Europe and Asia).
All the other T-Mobile smartphones have 2100Mhz, I've yet to come across a smartphone from T-Mo that only supports 1700Mhz. I really don't think the G2 will be any different.
Superfrag,
Thanks for the correction. I knew the 2100 Mhz frequency overlapped, but could not remember the specification of the other half.
If you check on the HTC website, you will see that the Desire Z is a 900/2100Mhz phone, however, this means that it is a Band I/VIII phone, not Band IV like the G2.
What this means is both phones operate on a downlink frequency range round about (they are not the same) 2100Mhz. However, the Z's uplink frequency range is around 1900Mhz and the G2's uplink range is around 1700Mhz.
This means that you can't send data in the US with the Z or in Europe with the G2, but you could potentially receive data. The problem is, that the phone can't handshake, so I think it will drop any data it receives.
There are latin american versions of a lot of phones, so there is still hope. Just hope that it isn't a Brazilian phone because I am fairly sure they use the same frequencies as Europe.
You can check out the wiki on UMTS Operating Bands here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Note that many T-Mobile phones also support Band I, which is why they work in Europe, the G2 is an exception.
I really don't think the G2 will be an exception. If it is, I will be heavily disappointed, as then I won't buy it since I need the 2100Mhz band..
Oh and just to confirm, where did you read that it will be Band IV only, and not Band I?
If you follow this link you can see the "T-Mobile Compare" page, between the G2 and the Vibrant. Note that the Vibrant supports Band I and Band IV (it lists AWS separately but this is the same thing as 1700/2100) while the G2 only supports Band IV.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...97-d234-4683-8b5a-f026b9db5528,&manufacturer=
It could be incorrect information, but I am fairly sure I have seen it repeated elsewhere, I will try to find another source.
as i understood it from all the previous discussions comparing european 3G and USA Tmobile 3g, tmo uses AWS IV bands (1700/2100) for 3G - 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink
i was going to import a HTC Desire from Tmo UK, thinking it would still pull 3G on the download side here in the states, and found out Tmo US network, if it doesn't see both bands it will automatically limit the connection to edge speeds
i don't know about using it in europe but here are the specs from Tmo's web
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Honestly, if the G2 can't give me 3g data when I travel outside the US (to Europe, for instance), then that's going to be a dealbreaker, which is crushing as I love the phone otherwise. But is it really possible that this would be the case?? Aren't they marketing the G2 as a great business phone? Forgive me for saying so, but a business phone that can't travel would be a disgrace.
i'd check with tmo tech rep but it may be moot point - last time i went overseas to switzerland, data rates were so intimidating, i limited my net useage to checking emails
Did anyone get a t-mobile venue pro and check to see if it has att 3g?
The samsung vibrant on t-mobile worked on att 3g even though it was advertised as only having 1700mhz 3g bands.
also if someone in the uk can check what 3g bands it has for sure? I have seen conflicting reports.
bigneeker said:
Did anyone get a t-mobile venue pro and check to see if it has att 3g?
The samsung vibrant on t-mobile worked on att 3g even though it was advertised as only having 1700mhz 3g bands.
also if someone in the uk can check what 3g bands it has for sure? I have seen conflicting reports.
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UK = 900/2100 = doesn't work in US 3G
Australia = 900/1900/2100 = doesn't work in US 3G
US = 900/1700/2100 = only works on AWS Band IV in US 3G (a.k.a. T-Mobile).
It's been confirmed by several comments on Engadget that the DVP will NOT work on ATT 3G.
Someone even commented on here to confirm that as well.
Se4nH4x said:
UK = 900/2100 = doesn't work in US 3G
Australia = 900/1900/2100 = doesn't work in US 3G
US = 900/1700/2100 = only works on AWS Band IV in US 3G (a.k.a. T-Mobile).
It's been confirmed by several comments on Engadget that the DVP will NOT work on ATT 3G.
Someone even commented on here to confirm that as well.
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Uhhh, At&t's 3G uses 850 or 1900, not 850 and 1900. The Australian version would work with At&t 3G, it would just be limited.
But since At&t still uses the 1900 band, it'd still work fine.
Funk2641 said:
Uhhh, At&t's 3G uses 850 or 1900, not 850 and 1900. The Australian version would work with At&t 3G, it would just be limited.
But since At&t still uses the 1900 band, it'd still work fine.
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It's 850 download, 1900 upload.
I never said it wouldn't work with ATT, I said it wouldn't work with ATT 3G.
If you just have 1900, you won't get ATT 3G.
It will default to 2G or Edge. The 3G UMTS bands (900/1700/1900/2100) are ignored in this case. It will default to the GMS bands/Edge.
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It's 850 download, 1900 upload.
I never said it wouldn't work with ATT, I said it wouldn't work with ATT 3G.
If you just have 1900, you won't get ATT 3G.
It will default to 2G or Edge. The 3G UMTS bands (900/1700/1900/2100) are ignored in this case. It will default to the GMS bands/Edge.
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No it isn't. You're thinking of Tmobile with 1700/2100. Att 3G uses 850 or 1900. Always has been, always will be until they shut the 1900 band off. Don't believe me?
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this is where the 1900 band is in use.
look at this:
this is where the 850 band is in use:
it's always either 850 or 1900, never both at the same time.
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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No it isn't. You're thinking of Tmobile with 1700/2100. Att 3G uses 850 or 1900. Always has been, always will be until they shut the 1900 band off. Don't believe me?
look:
this is where the 1900 band is in use.
look at this:
this is where the 850 band is in use:
it's always either 850 or 1900, never both at the same time.
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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You fail to understand me.
THOSE ARE 2G BANDS.
"GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900" <--- 2G/EDGE. NOT 3G.
2G/EDGE only requires ONE BAND, NOT 2.
3G requires BOTH.
Se4nH4x said:
You fail to understand me.
THOSE ARE 2G BANDS.
"GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900" <--- 2G/EDGE. NOT 3G.
2G/EDGE only requires ONE BAND, NOT 2.
3G requires BOTH.
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Nope. Att uses 1 band for 3G, and 1 band for 2G. You can even verify for yourself here:
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/
If they're going to be 850-only, doesn't than mean that ATT uses one or the other?
Wanna hear it from the CEO? :
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/23/the-engadget-interview-ralph-de-la-vega-ceo-of-atandt-mobility/
Ralph: Yeah. We actually have more than 320 cities that are now 3G capable [AT&T has written us to let us know that they're actually at 350+. -Ed.]. We're going to continue to increase the number of cities, the number of the population that's covered, and we'll be finishing this year converting the frequency band that is used in some major cities for 3G from 1900 to 850, so by the end of the year, we'll finish San Francisco, we'll finish parts of New York, and then that'll bring the best technology 3G on the best backbone to significantly improve the quality and the coverage for 3G on our network.
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Here's even a direct answer for you: http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/G...mp-T-support-1900MHz-band-phones/td-p/1424674
Anywhoo, op, yes, the Australian version will support 1900mhz 3G. You'll be fine.
So why is it in Canada then when I contact companies like Bell, Telus, Rogers, etc they say something like this: "it must be HSPA (or UMTS) and 850 MHz and 1900 MHz compatible."
they use the word "and" which implies both...
apparently 850 is better too
"850 gives you greater distance and unlike 1900 it will penetrate areas like elevators etc. You should use 850 whenever possible."
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So why is it in Canada then when I contact companies like Bell, Telus, Rogers, etc they say something like this: "it must be HSPA (or UMTS) and 850 MHz and 1900 MHz compatible."
they use the word "and" which implies both...
apparently 850 is better too
"850 gives you greater distance and unlike 1900 it will penetrate areas like elevators etc. You should use 850 whenever possible."
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"it must be HSPA (or UMTS) and 850 MHz and 1900 MHz compatible."
that does imply both, but it doesn't need both to operate effectively. And yeah, the 850 band is stronger, but the 1900 band travels farther. Either way, the OP will be fine, if he chooses to get the Australian version.
Funk2641 said:
"it must be HSPA (or UMTS) and 850 MHz and 1900 MHz compatible."
that does imply both, but it doesn't need both to operate effectively. And yeah, the 850 band is stronger, but the 1900 band travels farther. Either way, the OP will be fine, if he chooses to get the Australian version.
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Well I'm considering this too because I live in Canada so I need to get my hands on a DVP.
So for internet purposes, such as email, video, etc, 1900 is fine?
The other issue is...http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
The DVP sold in australia is like $400 more expensive >.>. not to mention it only has 8 GB.
I'll try and arrange a deal with someone in the US when Dell starts selling it.
Se4nH4x said:
Well I'm considering this too because I live in Canada so I need to get my hands on a DVP.
So for internet purposes, such as email, video, etc, 1900 is fine?
The other issue is...http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
The DVP sold in australia is like $400 more expensive >.>. not to mention it only has 8 GB.
I'll try and arrange a deal with someone in the US when Dell starts selling it.
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I think it'll work just fine, honestly. I'm considering it myself as well.
I can confirm that phones that have 1900mhz work on att 3g. I had an omnia 2 with 1900mhz 3g only and it worked fine in Manhattan.
some areas only have 850mhz 3g which would make it not work on 3g.
I guess I will have to look for an australian version, unfortunately it's a lot more expensive.
I am surprised that only the australian version has 1900mhz 3g on it.
Hopefully ATT or Rogers will release soon enough so we don't feel left out.
I just saw clove UK site update to 900/1700/2100 MHz . will that work with t-mobile 3g? edge only ? att 3g? or att edge only ?
900/1700/2100 MHz means it will work on t-mobile 3g and on ATT Edge
So apparently, the DVP will only work on ATT for voice and the edge data network. Is this something that the magicians here at XDA can fix with a different radio to flash on the DVP once it's cracked?
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So apparently, the DVP will only work on ATT for voice and the edge data network. Is this something that the magicians here at XDA can fix with a different radio to flash on the DVP once it's cracked?
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No, that's not a possibility. Your best option is to switch carriers.
Using my DVP on ATT sans 3g for now. Dont feel like moving to Tmobile until I move areas. Edge aint that bad if you have wifi around
I'm confused... Here's what I found on the Clove website...
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Speed
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 900/1700/2100 MHz
Speed HSDPA 7.2Mbps/HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Does this mean that it will work on ATT? It says there's both 850 an 1900
900/2100 MHz is Tmobile 3G
850/1900 MHz is ATT 3G
Yes it will work on ATT - but not with ATT 3G.
Sangheili said:
900/2100 MHz is Tmobile 3G
850/1900 MHz is ATT 3G
Yes it will work on ATT - but not with ATT 3G.
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T-Mobile is 1700/2100 for 3G.
I'm curious how many hardware variations of the Defy exist with distinct FCC ID numbers. This would be a good complementary thread to the one with all the different 3G fix files.
So please state 1) the carrier you bought your phone from (or if not a carrier, the site you bought it from), 2) the network you use it on (if not the same) and its 3G frequencies, 3) The FCC ID number behind the battery of your phone. If there is no FCC ID, then any other numbers you can find.
If your phone has the same info as another already posted here, no need to re-post.
I don't own a Defy but let's start with the info stated here:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2965
1) T-Mobile USA, 2) N/A, AWS 3G, 3) IHDP56LC3
I have also found FCC reports of the following variations:
IHDP56LC1: WCDMA 850/1900
IHDP56LC2
IHDP56LC4
(not sure which bands on the latter two, had trouble finding the right testing docs)
1) eBay (T-Mobile USA branded)
2) AT&T (850/1900Mhz)
3) IHDP56LC3
IHDP56LC2: WCDMA 850/2100 (FCC website, Exhibit 11 RF Exposure Info)
IHDP56LC4: WCDMA 900/2100 (same above)
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1) eBay (T-Mobile USA branded)
2) AT&T (850/1900Mhz)
3) IHDP56LC3
IHDP56LC2: WCDMA 850/2100 (FCC website, Exhibit 11 RF Exposure Info)
IHDP56LC4: WCDMA 900/2100 (same above)
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Aha, good to know.
If the T-Mobile USA version (IHDP56LC3) has 850/1700/2100, it seems odd they'd have (presumably for Telstra) a hardware variant which is the same minus 1700 (IHDP56LC2). I wonder if this is genuinely different hardware or if they just fail to list the AWS band in the FCC tests?
1. Telstra
2. Telstra Next-G
3. FCC ID: IHDP56LC2
cmstlist said:
Aha, good to know.
If the T-Mobile USA version (IHDP56LC3) has 850/1700/2100, it seems odd they'd have (presumably for Telstra) a hardware variant which is the same minus 1700 (IHDP56LC2). I wonder if this is genuinely different hardware or if they just fail to list the AWS band in the FCC tests?
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Agreed, it's seems odd that they would have 2 different hardware variants with the difference being only AWS. Guess the only way to test would be to have someone with a IHDP56LC2 Defy flash the USA fix and come over to the US to test.
This would all be easier if manufacturers started using the penta-band chips like in the Nokia N8.
Well, I have seen (on this forum?) pics of the US Defy running 3G on AT&T using the 850. If true, and the 2100 works in Europe (it does, BTW) then anyone would be seemingly better off with the US version.
Oh, here it is: http://androidforums.com/t/217819-t-mo-motorola-defy-working-t-3g-850-band-only.html
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Well, I have seen (on this forum?) pics of the US Defy running 3G on AT&T using the 850. If true, and the 2100 works in Europe (it does, BTW) then anyone would be seemingly better off with the US version.
Oh, here it is: http://androidforums.com/t/217819-t-mo-motorola-defy-working-t-3g-850-band-only.html
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Well, *anyone* but:
- Customers on global carriers who require the 900 MHz band for good 3G coverage
- Customers on any carrier that has significant 1900-only 3G areas
Which leads to a question - can anyone here confirm they live in or have occasion to visit an area where AT&T's 3G coverage is only 1900 MHz, and no 850? You can verify this by bringing your Defy as well as a phone that does have 850/1900 3G, and seeing if you get 3G on the other but not the Defy.
If you can set up this kind of situation - take a nandroid backup of your firmware, and then try applying the "3G fix" for 850/1900. Is your phone now able to get 3G on 1900? If yes, then the bands are entirely software-controlled; if no, it's the hardware.
Or to the Australians out there with a Telstra Defy - do you have access to an Optus SIM card? Can you test out the Defy in a 900 MHz-only Optus coverage area, and then try flashing the "3G fix" for 900/2100... is your phone now able to get 3G on 900?
1) Bought from T-Mobile Direct (UK)
2) Network: T-Mobile (UK)
3) FCC: IHDP56LC4
All,
I live in Madagascar, after flashing US 3G fix, i've got 3g at home now. Before fix, in rom 3. 4. 3-11, i always don't have at home. But, oh yes there's but, the network signal is very poor. And i've lost it many times.
My Fcc id HDP56LC4.
Now i'm in 900-2100 fix and everything is right but in Edge lol 2G.
My carrier is Telma, 900 for Gsm and 2100 for 3g+ (Hspda). I've signal and 3g+ connection when i leave home for office, in the city.
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Hello I have purchased a Motorola Defy from e-bay off of kick mobiles in the UK it was already unlocked the FCC ID is :IHDP56LC4 900/2100(2.2.2) and I had it shipped to Canada..... much to my dismay it does not work on our basebands here..well it does on GSM 2G...anyway I found a Canadian one from Telus so i bought that one too and it's FCC ID is :IHDP56LC1 850/1900(2.2.1) hope this helps
I'm confused. When I go to the phonescoop page and click on the different FCC IDs IHDP56LCX where X is 1-4 the only one that is different is 3 where it has the 1700 band in addition to the 850/1900/2400?
I'm looking for a phone with hardware to support 850/1900 3g. can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
If you want the one with 850/1900 3G, it's the one sold by Telus Canada, or in certain Latin American countries.
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Thanks for the reply!
It seems really tough to pick up a defy with specific hardware because a lot of phones on ebay anyway are tmobile which apparently is 850/1700/2100 and could work with att but will not have the 1900 band or mb525 which is the international version which doesn't work with att?
For IHDP56LC2, seems to be almost all in one:
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Thanks for the necromove
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I have a IHDP56LC4:
1. Bought from Germanos Romania (Cosmote - OTE owened)
2. Used with Vodafone (900, 2100 MHz)
3. FCC ID: IHDP56LC4
I have one Defy+ and the FCC ID is For IHDP56LC2, i switched basebands and i can connect to 850/AWS 3G bands, i'm looking for a compatible 1900mhz radio and baseband, i tried to change baseband but defy stays in Only Emergency calls.
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I have one Defy+ and the FCC ID is For IHDP56LC2, i switched basebands and i can connect to 850/AWS 3G bands, i'm looking for a compatible 1900mhz radio and baseband, i tried to change baseband but defy stays in Only Emergency calls.
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The ONLY reason for the baseband switcher is to fix firmware files that are meant for the wrong variant. The ONLY baseband you need is the one intended for your hardware. Nothing else will give you better results. The hardware cannot under any circumstances connect to bands it's not compatible with.
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