TyTN vs WMDC (Cable sync) - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi all.
I gave my TyTN to my GF a long while ago and she used it only with cable sync using MS AS 4.5 and Windows XP.
Well she's since a while back using Windows Vista (Home ed) and want to start using her TyTN again and here's my question:
She has a lot of stuffs stored on her TyTN (mailbox, calendar, tasks and notes) that she hasn't got anywhere else. As I see it the WMDC cleares the device by default when adding a partnership.
Is there any way to pass by that problem? Otherwise she won't be able to use it again and she can't get her old stuff back to the puter?
I know that she should have put it all to a .pst-file before changing puter, but that's to late for it now...
Plz. anyone help me. (feel free to pm me or get in touch in any way you want...)

Use a backup program... I use SPB 2.0.1 (it is a commercial program but it does have a trial period I believe with 5 backup and restores) - it seems to be what I need. It backs up EVERYTHING... You could also use pim backup (its on the forum and its freeware|). This will save all your contacts and messages.
Cheers...

Thanx m8 =)

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Calling all Palm users or ex Palm users!!!Converting to PPC!

Am i making a big mistake??? I bought the wizard for its technical capabilities but did not realize the problems i would have in the conversion process.
AAAAHG, I just cant seem to transfer all my data from my palm E2 to the wizard! I have the Palm E2 and a palm IIIx synced on the palm desktop and am trying to convert just the E2 to outlook so i can sync with the wizard (with the intention of selling my E2). I installed outook 2002 (palm desktop already installed) then installed the outlook conduits from the Palm installation cd then did a sync with outook.
Everything seemed to transfer ok to outlook but when i sync to the wizard my contacts and notes seemed to transfer over ok, but my calandar didnt. All i got was the last months appointments! And now when i resync my palm 3 (with a different username) the calendar is shifted 9 hours ahead! I think it set itself to pacific standard time and here in europe its GMT+1. My pc is from that time zone.
Along the way i accidentally erased my calendar on my E2!! AAARRG! What a pain this is. Going to try to resync my E2 with outlook to try to restore my E2 as i dont think i will give up my palm just yet.
Is there another safer way? I did an archive of the pst file from outlook in case everything is lost and will try to resync my wizard later, must restore my palm first as its the only thing i can trust.
Btw i think the standard calendar, notes, memo (does not exist on ppc) function on the ppc is way inferior to the palms. Esthetically and functionally speaking it SUCKS! Is there another program i can install that gives me the same look and funtion of the palms? What the heck is up with having to scroll between day, week, month, year views when on the palm you can just select the icon??????????????
I like the wizard and the funtionality but am having second thoughts.....................
I also did the move from Palm (m500) to the new Wizard (Qteck 9100). Love the new wizard, has some very nice functions on it, but I also miss some standard functionalities of the Palm OS. eg working with categories and remembering the last used category, altough I really love the possibility of WM 5.0 to link different cateogries to one object, which wasn't possible with my palm.
Anyway, to be able to transfer al my data, I first made sure all my Palm data was synchronized correctly with Outlook. I used PocketMirror (sync with outlook) combined with SwitchSync (sync with outlook and Palm Desktop). Try some different settings within PocketMirror to be able to sync different categories correctly (free version only sync's a limited number of categories). Once all this was done, I didn't use my palm anymore and synchronized all my data from within outlook to my pocket pc
Good luck!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Glad to hear that you were successful with the change. Well, i managed to recover all the info that i synched with outlook back to my palm and backed everthing up on the palm desktop, then reinstalled everthing to disassociate with outook. The palms seems to to be refunctionning properly now.
I cant however seem to sync everything i magaged to get to outlook on my wizard! Contacts, notes/memos, were pretty much in tact, but the calendar i only got the last 2 months info. When i resync choosing just the calendar i get an error message saying the profile is not the same. Funny when i was forced to choose the profile and was password protected.
I think i will have to reload outlook and do a hardreset and start over. Fortunately i also exported the outlook pst file. I hope it works. If you have any other ideas, i would appreciate it.
did you try the "delete device" in the ActiveSync application?
This already resolved many activesync problems for me...
ActiveSync will then forget all your specific connection settings and restart a proper sync. connection when you reconnect your wizard.
Thanks for the advice, in fact it worked and i can now see my calendar for all of 2005. Still unsure of how to back up or archive my info. I just did an archive and it deleted my calendar again!!!
I think i will go ahead and reinstall outlook 2002 then synch with the wizard. I think in that case i wont even need to import a backup or archive pst file.
Which version outlook are you using btw. Can i install another version such as 2003, my wizard is in french but i prefer to have outlook in english, i hope there isnt any compatibility problems!!
ciao
It works fine with Outlook 2003. I don't know for older versions then 2002.
The language won't be a problem. I use a dutch outlook without problems..
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
convertme
A free and very efficient software I used to convert to PPC.
You can see my link below for my other post on this software.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44868
Also a review by someone else.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/commenta...yconversion.htm
looks nice
thx!
Mogwai,
the original condition you reported with your Calendar on your new Wizard is the correct condition. MS assumes you are going to do most of your work on the desktop and will want the complete record there and not necessarily on your device. In order to save device RAM/Flash, ActiveSync only transfers the past 2 weeks of appointments (plus all future appointments). If it got to Outlook correctly, then you've got everything you should have.
If you must have more calendar data on your device, then you need to go to AS Options, click on Calendar, and then click the Settings button. You can have up to 6 months of your past appointments on your device with ActiveSync 4.x.
I hope this helps!
ChrisSpera said:
Mogwai, [...] If you must have more calendar data on your device, then you need to go to AS Options, click on Calendar, and then click the Settings button. You can have up to 6 months of your past appointments on your device with ActiveSync 4.x.
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To be exact: you can choose that you would like to sync
all calendar appointments or
last two weeks or
last month or
last three months or
last six months - and all upcoming appointments of course.
Klausi
ActiveSync and Outlook Notes (body missing)
hi,
In the same subject I am an ex-palm user switching to PPC, I have used the same way to get all my Palm memos into my Outlook (hotsync with Outlook as conduit) so the memos ar ein Outlook and readable without problems,
the problem is when I open them into my Wizard : they don't have any body (!)
Has anyone came accross this ?

sync contact list without outlook

hi, i wish to sync my contact list to my computer without using outlook, im looking for a software look like palm desktop... any 1 have idea???
ahsin said:
hi, i wish to sync my contact list to my computer without using outlook, im looking for a software look like palm desktop... any 1 have idea???
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Because or requirements at my job, we don't use Outlook. We use SyncML to sync contacts and calendar events with our internal server. Really nice being able to sync without hooking ot a computer and anyplace you have GPRS / WiFi access.
Here's a post where I put some info and links about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1159992&postcount=4
i need an exactly same like palm desktop to sync my contact and calender when sync with usb cable
zzzzzzzzzzzz
any 1 have third party software that can sync contact to desktop to view and edit??
i have try uninstall outlook 2003 and activesync 4.5 many time, and the result remain the same
I have had the ActiveSync problem since 10/2006 and have not found a resolution yet. I have posted on this forum, tried all suggestions and tried everything except a Hard Reset. I still cannot get my Desktop or Laptop to recognize my MDA via ActiveSync even though my Desktop and Laptop recognize my MDA. I have asked for 3rd party software to update my Outlook address book and calendar and have not found anything. I have even asked if there is software to update/change the MDA PIM.VOL file via a desktop or laptop. Still no luck. I have researched this out and checked all possible sites. NO LUCK. I still have not given up. I continue to look daily for a solution other than a Hard Reset.
So, you are not alone. There are many of us out there. ActiveSync is a very poor application. Maybe someday we will find something to use instead of AS. The only think that is missing in the AS is the last 'S'.
Hey friends,
I dont know if this reply is useful for you. I am so new to this forum. I am using a Motorola Mpx220, but gonna get my Cingular 8125 within a couple of days. Anyways, when I was syncing my Mpx, I had the same problem. The solution I found out was(after a long research), while the phone is still connected to the computer, go to Start -> Accessories -> Modem link. In that "USB" connection, make it active and then deactivate. As soon as you do this your active sync will detect the phone and it will sync smoothly.
I have no idea why is it happening like this nor I dont know if it works with MDA coz my Mpx220 is running on WM 2003 SE. I can only check WM 5 after I get my 8125. If this reply help you guys in anyways, please let me know.
Thanks mates.....
Jish
So there is no third party "phone manager" like for example Oxygen Phone Manager for Symbian phones ?
Contacts backup without outlook
Try " Jeyo Mobile Companion" . Google for it. It can save the contacts + call log as well as SMS on your comp. You can restore/ update the it any time It doesnt sync though. Just use it for back up purposes. Very hand. You still need to connect that phone to the comp. and AS to recognize your device.
Trust this helps
I assume that I can backup my PIM.VOL file on my 2Gb Storage Card. I have not had to reinstall the PIM.VOL file so I don't know if it really will work. However, I still would like to find an application that will allow me to update/change my Contacts and Calendar without using ActiveSync. Bottom line, why can't we find something that can do this without using AS since we are having problems on using AS? I have used Palms since day 1 and other things without as much problems as AS.
asctony said:
I assume that I can backup my PIM.VOL file on my 2Gb Storage Card. I have not had to reinstall the PIM.VOL file so I don't know if it really will work. However, I still would like to find an application that will allow me to update/change my Contacts and Calendar without using ActiveSync. Bottom line, why can't we find something that can do this without using AS since we are having problems on using AS? I have used Palms since day 1 and other things without as much problems as AS.
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asctony,
AFAIK, you still need AS to connect the PPC to any PC ( I cud be wrong). What you can do is to set AS not to sync your contacts and others and use another 3p software to update / modify contatcts. The prog - Jeyo mobile companion does just that + back up your SMS too. Which is very crucial, in many cases as they cannot be backed up through the regular way.

Retrieve SMS Messages From Device With Bad LCD

My LCD broke on my Wizard (8125). There were a few saved SMS messages
with some inportant information in them as well as a few that were unread.
Other than the LCD the phone works fine - I'm using the internet sharing from
it now to write this post ( I mapped it to a button before the screen broke so
that I could get to i quickly to get me laptop online when out an about.)
What I want to know is this: Is there a way to retrieve those saved and
unread SMS messages using my WinXP PC and Active Sync, or any other app
that I can run from the PC itself since I can't see anything on the device?
Anyhelp would be much appreciated. Oh its a G3 unlocked device running
the 3.3 AKU that lead to the ROM archive being taken down if that helps.
I think a program called Jeyo Mobile (or something similar) does that. I havent used it, but I'm sure I read about it somewhere.
You could also try to use a remote desktop application such as SOTI's Pocket Controler which lets you use your PDA on the desktop like you would use the real one ...
http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=PCPro
i have used both Jeyo and Soti, and they both work really well.. but the one problem with Soti is that you need to install it on the phone before it can be used. if you have some type of software to take a screenshot of the phone, that may work too. good luck
-Nstefanelli-

Outlook SMS Sync Software?

Any available?
I bought Jeyo a long time back but it does not seem to work with my Topaz - only detects the last 3 msgs and as soon as you want Sent Items downloaded...Outlook crashes.
Jeyo are not sure if they are still in business it seems so you just get fobbed off by them.
Then there's PocketExport. Installed the trial version, detects device but no SMS logs etc.
Thanks!
OK so the Jeyo Companion DOES see the msgs...it's just outlook that does not.
I'm going to put it down to potentially 64bit, Office 2007 SP2, Windows 7, Touch Diamond 2 or all 4
Previous successful attempt was with a HTC Diamond 1, Office 2007 SP1, 32bit, and Windows Vista
Hello!
I use this, is verry good Mobile Archiving - sms and call detail archiving.
MobileArchiver integrates the most widely-used communication methods - SMS messaging, email, and calls - into Outlook, one of the most widely used applications. MobileArchiver keeps a history of your SMS messages and call details in Outlook so you always know who contacted you and when.
Downloading now!
Thanks for that - I actually got the PocketExport working with help from their support guys - it turns out that even though I am connected via cable, you need to set PE to Bluetooth and reboot the machine.
It synced up fine soon after the reboot though it then crashed Outlook until I removed the hone.
The other downside is the "From" field is blank unlike Jeyo which had it populated
From the screenshots of your suggestion, it looks to be populated. Wish me luck!
I use True connect from rasberry software, paid for it about 4 years ago and never looked back. I use it every day, however sometimes it does crash outlook 2007, but I just restart the program and it comes back. Also allows you to control your phone using pc keyboard & mouse.
Now that WinMo 6.5 is out i am having issues with TrueConnect. SMS msg remains in outbox folder, and according to support it has something to do with threaded sms
Any of u bright minds have a solution ?
/Smirge
I've now gone over to the dark side and got myself an iPhone
Just got fedup of the inherent issues with the diamond2 - most of which I managed to live with but the aftersales just did it for me!
However, I was running 6.5 until the bitter end and bought [email protected]'s suggstion of MobileArchiving
It was by far one of the best solutions I have seen for SMS and Outlook - something I forgot to say thanks to for the suggestion so apologies for that!
Might be worth trying it out (i think they give you a 15-30 day trial on their site)
Had no issues with 6.5 and that was during the beta stage!
Thanks Akash_84.
I've got an Iphone... wonderfull!!
Do you know a way to export sms from a Diamond to an Iphone??
Thanks in advanced!

A serious replacement to Active Sync alias Windows Mobile Device Cente

I am really fed up with ActiveSync / Windows Mobile Device Center!
I just can't stand it anymore.
Are there serious and good replacement for it? For WM 6.5.5 and Win7 x64?
Since 2007 I am experiencing these 3 major issues, with any subsequent versions of ActiveSync (which is now called Windows Mobile Device Center, on my Win7 Ultimate x64 system)
1st issue:
After a restore on one of my 3 WM devices (two HD2 and one HD1 blackstone), I had to full resync each time: sometimes it takes 30 min, sometimes 5-6 hours: I ALWAYS AND ONLY include contacts, task and calendar, with default sync settings (no emails)
2nd issue
Apparently, without warning, any 3-5 days a message appears saying:
A change to the server requires full re-sync.
I do and sometimes all is fine, sometimes ALL MY CONTACT ARE REPLICATED on both my PC and my devices...as for today I got 6,000 contacts! (they should be around 1,500)...And I am forced to go through my contacts and remove manually all the duplicates.
3rd issue: sync is completed BUT CHANGES are NOT reflected on DEVICES!
Suppose I change contact/notes on one of my 3 devices and then sync. My laptop might or may not take in the change. But invariably I get the message Device connected, Sync completed!
Viceversa: I change the email field of a contact on my laptop: the changes are reflected on device 1 but NOT on device 2 and yes on device 3! Very random behavior...
Yesterday I have edited the notes (it is a field) of a contacts on my 2nd device. On PC and on my 1st device the changes were synced. On the last device NOT....sync was completed all 3 times, WITHOUT ERRORS but changes are not there!
This is irritating.
Please help and suggest a substitute to ActiveSync alias WMDC for WM 6.5.5
Is there any tool, even if it an expensive one, to replace it?
I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
not replacing, just extending its functionalities...
I don't want any more trace of activesync on my laptop, I wish to have
a professional product installed.
Thank you
Saulo
I read on interenet about SyncML and another solution called DevilsPGD.
Any feedback about it? Is there a off-line version? I dislile the idea of having my data on a web server.
Thank you
Saulo
I forgot to mention that my main goas are to sync PIM data (Outlook data) e.g.:
- Contacts
- tasks
- calendar
Thanks
Saulo
Through the years it has always baffled me how so many people have had issues with AS and MDC. I can honestly say that I have had, maybe 5 ot 6 errors with it, and all were solved with a simple reboot of both devices. After that it would go for like a year or two without an issue.
I have been using WM devices since the dell axim was introduced (changing both computers and PDA/Smartphones as time progressed) and have always read of people having massive issues with it. I also consider myself a pretty heavy user of AS/MDC: PIM syncing, Office doc syncing, Note syncing, music and photo syncing (yes with windows media player), Pocket Quicken syncing, Mysportstraining and mypersonaldiet syncing, ewallet syncing, Quickbook syncing, Mylifeorganized syncing, Checklist syncing, and a customized program I had built that syncs my loan files with an industry software I use called Point.
With all of this crap being transferred to and from my various computers and my PDA/Smartphones I would have thought, based on reading other peoples' issues, I would have experienced more problems. But as I said, it has pretty much always been a painless experience. Even the issues I had were minor (one record wouldnt sync, or one conduit would not sync, but everything else did) and as I said, rebooting both devices fixed it everytime.
What is everyone else doing differently?
I use Jeyo Mobile Companion, and I am really happy with this program. Works well on Windows 7 with a lot of features.
Compatible with all Windows Mobile Smartphones and Pocket PC Phone Edition devices
Send, receive and search SMS messages from a Windows PC
Syncs new SMSs automatically
Sync user-created SMS subfolders
Chat over SMS using an instant messaging-style UI
View sync'd SMS messages in threaded mode.
Organize contacts in a Windows Mobile device's memory or on a SIM card
Universal contacts import
Powerful new data export capabilities
Manage call history
Backup and restore SMS messages, contacts and call history
Supports flexible XML export file format
Install applications and homescreen themes on a device
Customize your device's theme settings from your PC
Set device ringtones and audio notifications from your PC
Take screenshots of your device
View a device's system information
Manage running applications and processes on a device
Dial your phone from your PC
Support multiple-language UI
15 day free trial
Lifetime email support with purchase
Free upgrades to all dot releases with purchase
Dear Cirrob
I also use pocket PCs since 1998. 12 years. and always been with Active Sync.
But now I cannot accept that a sync is completed, no errors and in fact the new updated phone or cell phone is not there, on my device!
Also I edit some NOTES (notes field, within a contact) and these changes are not reflected on my PC.
I get no error messages! I have checked that the right couple (WindowPC - Device) are selected... a new contact is corrected sync, a old one, if edit, I have 70% chance is correctly synced and 30% chances it remain unchanged, either on PC or on Device...
Sure enough, if I make a hard reset, these issues are solved, the sync is perfect...But I do no want to make an hard reset every month.
Thanks
Saulo
Hallo
Does Jeyo Mobile Companion rely on Active Sync (like Intellsync or Pocket Mirror)?
Or is it a real replacement?
Thanks
Saulo
Forget Activsync
I have used PDAs heavily in my business. Before wm phones I had to carry two devices. I have also used a blackberry which has an excellent interface with any computer, it is faster and more accurate, It is realy a shame that MS stuff always seems so counter-intuitive. In my opinion the best solution is to not use activesync at all. You can do that if you have an exchange account, then you can sync all PIM over wireless, with 3G it is effortless. One caveat is that you cannot sync notes unless you activsync with outlook configured to exchange.
By the way "TrineFix" is a utility I downloaded somewhere here, when installed on your phone it will remove duplicates from your contacts, it works extremely well, and you don't have to edit duplicates by hand.
hallo researchm
Can you please expand on exchange server? Is it possible to subscribe to it for a private person like me? I mean is exchange available for personal usage?
Do you khow to start an exchange account?
Is this process something similar to syncing to a website and then connect my HD2 to the web to complete the sync?
Thank you and waiting.
Saulo
saulo866 said:
Hallo
Does Jeyo Mobile Companion rely on Active Sync (like Intellsync or Pocket Mirror)?
Or is it a real replacement?
Thanks
Saulo
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It requires ActiveSync 3.7 or above
SyncML (and a provider, which supports it!). Supports WiFi!
How about microsoft my phone its syncs everything apart from email. There is one thing it can be slow sometimes to download, but uploading is fine. I was reading that they are working on fixing the download speed.
I use MyPhone. It's good, it has also a duplicate item eraser, but it does not sync with PC, as far as I know.
Did you ever heard about Funambol ?
http://www.funambol.com/
woaloo said:
Did you ever heard about Funambol ?
http://www.funambol.com/
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That's SyncML posted above!
MyPhone just backups but doesn't sync Outlook, SyncML does.
S-Line said:
SyncML (and a provider, which supports it!). Supports WiFi!
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woaloo said:
Did you ever heard about Funambol ?
http://www.funambol.com/
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S-Line said:
That's SyncML posted above!
MyPhone just backups but doesn't sync Outlook, SyncML does.
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When I did a search for SyncML, it brought me to the Funambol site.
Looks like they have "cloud" sync options as well. Interesting.
Have you guys tried it?
I too have had problems with WMDC and Activesync. I have found a solution that works for me so I don't get the error messages:
1. Delete ALL items you want to sync from your mobile.
2. Delete ALL partnerships from your mobile.
3. Sync with XP PC (which in my case has all of the correct appointments and contacts which is all I want to sync).
4. Delete ALL partnerships from your Vista PC.
5. Delete ALL items you want to sync from Vista PC.
5. Sync mobile with Vista PC - make sure the device name the Vista PC suggests is the same as the XP PC.
Then hopefully you can sync either PC without any activesync errors. I have over 2000 appointments and over 400 contacts, so there is quite a bit of info. Each sync in 3 and 5 takes about 30 minutes. Each second sync only takes 30 seconds.
Trident said:
When I did a search for SyncML, it brought me to the Funambol site.
Looks like they have "cloud" sync options as well. Interesting.
Have you guys tried it?
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Yes, working fine (using it via my provider, which offers a special version of syncml).
I've owned Asus MyPal A639, HTC Touch HD and now - Leo. Never had any of these problems that you mention except that ActiveSync really drives me mad for one particular thing - its virus-like auto-start behavior on both desktop and PPC. Its like sync , sync, sync... a-a-and.... sync, sync, sync. Even disabled it rewrites its entries in the registry every time you start it. Its a pest! On the other side it does what it does - sync(!) and you can use many 3-rd party programs on top of it. I use Jeyo Mobile Companion and MobilEdit! but they rely on ActiveSync. Unfortunately there's no real alternative to ActiveSync and its derivatives (WMDC).
saulo866 said:
I am really fed up with ActiveSync / Windows Mobile Device Center!
I just can't stand it anymore.
Are there serious and good replacement for it? For WM 6.5.5 and Win7 x64?
Since 2007 I am experiencing these 3 major issues, with any subsequent versions of ActiveSync (which is now called Windows Mobile Device Center, on my Win7 Ultimate x64 system)
1st issue:
After a restore on one of my 3 WM devices (two HD2 and one HD1 blackstone), I had to full resync each time: sometimes it takes 30 min, sometimes 5-6 hours: I ALWAYS AND ONLY include contacts, task and calendar, with default sync settings (no emails)
2nd issue
Apparently, without warning, any 3-5 days a message appears saying:
A change to the server requires full re-sync.
I do and sometimes all is fine, sometimes ALL MY CONTACT ARE REPLICATED on both my PC and my devices...as for today I got 6,000 contacts! (they should be around 1,500)...And I am forced to go through my contacts and remove manually all the duplicates.
3rd issue: sync is completed BUT CHANGES are NOT reflected on DEVICES!
Suppose I change contact/notes on one of my 3 devices and then sync. My laptop might or may not take in the change. But invariably I get the message Device connected, Sync completed!
Viceversa: I change the email field of a contact on my laptop: the changes are reflected on device 1 but NOT on device 2 and yes on device 3! Very random behavior...
Yesterday I have edited the notes (it is a field) of a contacts on my 2nd device. On PC and on my 1st device the changes were synced. On the last device NOT....sync was completed all 3 times, WITHOUT ERRORS but changes are not there!
This is irritating.
Please help and suggest a substitute to ActiveSync alias WMDC for WM 6.5.5
Is there any tool, even if it an expensive one, to replace it?
I'm not talking about IntelliSync, PocketMirror, etc which are
not replacing, just extending its functionalities...
I don't want any more trace of activesync on my laptop, I wish to have
a professional product installed.
Thank you
Saulo
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.And I am forced to go through my contacts and remove manually all the duplicates.
Why? There is software out there for your phone that will delete duplicate contacts from your device. Then all you need to do is resync back with outlook.

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