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Case Round-Up

I decided to round up all of the cases for the HTC Universal for reference:
Piel Frama (1 case... also available on Expansys as the "Chairmans Case")
- http://www.pielframa.com/imate_jasjar.htm
PDair (2 cases, both with belt clips)
- http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7749.htm
- http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem.php?itemid=1998&pdaid=190
XaX (2 cases)
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125516
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125869
- Nutshell
http://www.tuff-as-nuts.com/209-210.html#
I have ordered the XaX cases with the intention of sending one back... I will post a full analysis with lots of pics.... it's sad that there are not a lot of pics around of these two !

BTW, here's a nice review of the Proporta case...
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/execbookcase.htm

Thanks for the summary - very useful indeed. I'm looking for something like the Piel Frama or Xax (2) case but the keyboard must NOT be covered - which I believe it is with both of these, although it is hard to tell from the photos.

I have found another case by Krusell which looks quite good:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?s=2&product=2095
Sold here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127398&asource=119353
Anyone got one?

Mods:
Should this be in accessories ?
Sorry...

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Wow... the Krusell one looks pretty good !
Hole for ear... belt clip... window for screen... Hmmmmm.... !
The only thing its missing is elastic stretchy sides to block the SD card from falling out while still being able to open the case.

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i like the krussel or the xax #1.
am interested in feedback on the xax, as I really just want something simple to make the carrying of it easier. if I need it, i just want to take it out of the case entirely, then when finished put it back. most cases are designed to keep it inside the case. i think the clam design prevents the need for a protective permanent case, so something to make it easier to carry it would be handy.
But yes, the krussel looks good if I felt it needed protection...
So any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good, and if any body does by the krussel, let us know.

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...any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good...
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I've had the XAX 1 for about a week now and it's just what I was looking for. Like you, Simon, I was also interested in just something to carry the Universal as I prefer to take it out completely to use it. The XAX 1 certainly does the job.
The magnetic closures make it very easy to take it out of the case and put it away. The fit is not too tight to make it difficult to remove and replace but tight enough to feel secure. It's not going anywhere. And it may seem a small thing, but I also like that the magnets make the removal and replacement of the Universal into a silent operation without zipping or velcro or snaps to announce what you're doing. It's not a big deal, but it was a nice little bonus.
The concern I had with this case was the belt clip since it is an actual clip and not anything that locks in place. My previous "belt" cases with other PDAs had the locking type clips. This one just hooks on to the belt, but it feels very secure. There seems to be no question of it slipping off of a belt and I've even used it just hooked on to jeans (without them falling down, despite the Universal's weight!) when not wearing a belt. I can see where there is more of a chance that it could come unhooked when just on jeans like that, but I haven't had that happen yet.
One advantage to the locking clips was the ability to allow the case to swivel which this one does not have. After using it though, I like the horizontal orientation and now prefer that it doesn't swivel actually. I don't have to take the case off or swivel it around every time I sit down.
I'm planning to eventually get the PDAir (most likely) for times when I want the Universal protected even while in use, but I would only use that in certain environments where I was worried that it might get damaged if taken out completely. Most of the time I plan to use the Xax.

I am not sure I get how the Xax 1 works.
Is it like a holtster, where you just slide the JasJar in?
What is the magnetic closure for, is that a tab that closes over the top opening?
How are the sides protected?
Care to post some pictures?

I'm at work, so I can't post any pictures right now (they probably wouldn't be all that happy that I was positng in the first place, but hey, it's lunch!)
It is like a holster and the JJ just slides in. As you suspected there is a leather tab that goes over the top to help protect and hold it in (though the fit is tight enough that I don't think holding the JJ in is really all that necessary.) It doesn't go completely across the top, but leaves room on one end so that you can use the headphone jack while it's in the case (as long as you put the JJ in it with the camera facing out.) Beyond that, the top is protected. There is leather on both sides, so they are protected as well. On the bottom, there's a large cut out in the middle that allows you to push up on the JJ to take it out more easily as well as two other small cut outs for the speakers.
I'll try to see if I can get some pics together later tonight.

Hi everyone,
I got the XaX #2 case today (the magnetic snap one, NOT the belt clip) and well... it's not that great.
First of all, the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside... the leather strip that holds down the keyboard gets in the way of the screen. I've tried a bunch of different positions, and no dice.
Also, the camera hole is uncovered, but the earpiece is not so you can't use the phone when the case is closed.
The magnetic snap is nice and strong though, and the leather is of good quality.
However, in terms of functionality, it's not that great. I'll post pics later.

ikaris said:
...the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside...
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So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.

Same here. I am interested in the Piel Frama case or the Krusell. Both look pretty nice and seem to have the proper cut outs for all buttons and such. Just wondering which one seems to fit the device better.

I am currently using the case that came with the iPaq 5500 series. This fits the XDA Exec perfectly and is ideal if you want to use the case for storing the Exec and taking it out of the case for use.
Simon

kelford said:
So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
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I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Thanks for giving an update! That's good news that the Piel Frama doesn't have the closing issues that was found with the XaX 2 case. I know how well PF cases are made, so I may have to get one of these (or at least put it on a gift wish list!) since I find I like to use different cases depending on circumstances.
How does it feel in terms of added bulk? It seems designed to be on the device most if not all of the time, so I wondered how it really feels when used every day?

Take a look at this one: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7866.htm
seems reasonalbly priced
One thing though..........
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first pic you see is the belt clip side
click the next pic and where you would expect to see the closing flap thingy, you see a plain flat side!?!?
Am I missing something?

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Am I missing something?
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I don't understand that either. Where did the flap go?
I'm supposed to be getting pictures together (having regular PC issues at home) so I can show the XaX 1 in use, but the general construction looks similar to the one in the link, but the XaX has a bigger flap. And it doesn't hide anywhere either!

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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
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Yes, it is not covered by any plastic.
The case does make it feel more 'bulky'. In the daily usage you could leave the it in case without the need of taking it out. I can answer the phone by not having to open the case. Of course you do need to open it to be able to make a phone call.

How do you carry your wizard around?

let's admit it: it's not very comfortable in the pocket. i was wondering how are you carring it? in the pocket? with a clip-on case attached to your belt (pls share which case)? in your briefcase?
i'm still looking for the most comfortable way...

I can not carry it any place but in the trouser pocket. I have broken many belt cases or holsters.
Gramicci, a company that makes clothing for rock climbing made a pair of trousers with a pocket sewn on the right thigh for carrying GPS or cell phone and it fits the Wizard nicely. I do not know if they still make these trousers but they are my favorite....

I'm just using the clip-on case that came with my T-Mobile (US) MDA. Its plain, but does the job.
Eventually, I play to get a better case, debating between a good metal case like
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...gory_Code=mda_iv_accessories&Product_Count=10
or
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...gory_Code=mda_iv_accessories&Product_Count=12
The latter is most likely what I'll get, as it looks like its fast to pull out, and provides adequate production, but I like the durability of the metal case.

I switch back and forth between the default Cingular 8125 belt-clip case and a PDair Aluminum case. When I use the aluminum, I carry it in my pocket. It's quite a brick with the case.
The PDair case can be seen at
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_200&products_id=2377
Honestly, both cases have their virtues. The aluminum case undeniably provides better protection. However, it also severely degrades signal quality. In order to have a conversation, I have to actually remove the the phone from the aluminum case or else the call quality is abysmal. The aluminum case also ruins the EDGE/GPRS connection. All of that said, sometimes I prefer the aluminum when I want to be sure that the phone is safe.
The belt-clip case keeps the wizard out of my pocket, but keeps me more protective of the phone while it's on my belt.

I use the case that came with my 8125. It works great, I have not had any problems with it.

Just in the pocket of my trousers. I'm not fat, so it's fit just right.
Should not be a millimiter thicker, then I got a problem.
Only problem is to get it, sometimes it's not so easy and sometimes I hit the Red (end call) button when I reach for it

Fits in my pants pocket just fine, even with the BIG extended battery. I just make sure the display is in (against my leg) which is a good idea anyway.

I also carry it in my pocket. It's not as big as I thought it would be. It's certainly bigger than a regular phone, but for a PDA phone it's not too bad. I also always make sure the screen is facing my leg, just in case something hits my leg, at least it hits the back and not the screen.

I carry it in the front left pocket of whatever pants I happen to be wearing (be it jeans at home, or khakis/dress pants at work), usually in its PDAir aluminum case. I have the same signal quality issue as everybody else, but as I barely ever talk on the phone I can keep it in the case all day long.
The only issue I have is when I'm wearing dress pants, as they're of thinner and tighter material. I've been carrying the phone w/out a case as of late (I have a screen protector on it and the housing is already beat up, so I'm not too worried), but I just ordered a leather belt clip on eBay today for when I'm at work. I'm not too worried about looking like an idiot, as pretty much anyone working here (I work for IBM) has their cell on a belt clip.

I bought this case on Ebay to use with my Cingular 8125.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Fit-Delu...5QQihZ013QQcategoryZ15036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
When I'm at work, I use the beltclip and wear it on my belt. Other places, I throw it in my purse -- with the case MINUS the belt clip. Since I have individual ringtones assigned to certain contacts, I don't need to flip it open to see who's calling. I can just hit the answer button and start talking.

i want a case that provide full protection not just the screen and not the buttons as well i prefer it to allow the keyboard access while in case
the krussels are almost up to the job but havent yet found the perfect case as i did for my 6620

In my front pocket - but this caused a broken screen.
Yup, watch out all you pants pocket carriers. Not exactly sure how it happened. It was only in there for a few mintues (pants pocket in my jeans) and when I pulled it out it was shattered.
A bit of a pain to get it fixed too, these are the options I've come up with:
$169 USD - http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...pairs-Full+Service+Repairs~item~IMT-LCD03.htm
Over $300 USD - http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/
Luckily I bought it on good old VISA so will be calling in the 90 day buyer protection feature. You gotta love how our society protects us from our own stupidity.
Cheers.

Looks like I'll stay with the trouser pocket for awhile. They should design clothing with a pocket for these things, they ain't going away....
And thanks for the tip on the Aluminum cases. I'm not pleased with the signal strength on my 8125 as is so the AL case won't help.
And hello to all, I'm totally new to these devices but I like my 8125 so far.

Trouser pocket usually when I'm wearing shorts (bigger pockets, not in the aluminum case). When I'm wearing jeans, it's almost always in its aluminum case hanging from my pocket if I'm not wearing a belt, belt if I am wearing a belt. Sitting at my desk at work, it's usually out of the aluminum case unless I'm wandering over to the other building. Then it winds up in either my back pocket, or the aluminum case. And no, I don't forget that it's there when it is in my back pocket.

After my first 8125 went overboard, I ditched the stock case that came with it and purchased a Sedio holster. This thing is indestructable. I caught my 8125 on the boat's lifeline the other day and I damn near went overboard..... :roll:

In a zipped front pocket of my bag (over the shoulder rucksack-y thing)
Not enough space in the pockets of women's jeans!

I use a small (ripstop nylon) digital camera belt case from Tamrac that I got from Circuit City. The case that comes with it is okay for dress, but I don't like the way it leaves the corners of the devise exposed.

I bought the case from Krusell. Everything matches great, I can use all Buttons, there's a little pocket for another MiniSD-Card and the clip-system allows more ways to fix it somewhere. Usually I wear it on my belt.
But it matches only with the standard back (not with extended battery).

I am currently using the magnetic clasped case that came with the device and that has seen me to Japan and then to Scotland, so it seems to work. It has spent most of its time in my trouser pocket and occasionaly in my bag. The only problem is that it's not particulalry easy to use it from inside the case - it takes time to get it out. Also, I didnt use the belt clasp on the side of the case which generally makes the whole thing too bulky. If that was not on there it might be a worthwhile case.
I have also carried it around for short periods with no case on it (which makes it easy to get out, use and then put away), but I was worried of breaking the screen (which has a screen protector to stop me from worrying about getting it scratched).
I did order an aluminium case which was meant to arrive before my trip to Japan, but it didn't. Should finally get to pick it up in August and I am hoping it will be sufficiently small (ie, with no "useless" clasp on the back) for me to use it instead of this leather thing.
Am also planning on getting my old phone unlocked so I can use it as a temporary phone when I need to go somewhere where there is a greater risk of me damaging the phone or greater need for it to be smaller (like black tie events).

I didn't use to use anything. Just carried it in my pocket but after going from a Razr to the Vario, it was strange having something so comparatively bulky.
Since my screen broke and I had to pay to have it fixed, I've been using the magnetic case with belt clip the phone came with. A shirt of t-shirt generally falls loosely over it so it doesn't stand out much.
Would only beinterested in a different case if it were thinner than the standard case.

PDAir Kaiser case

I bought the PDAir flip case for the Kaiser last week and got it in yesterday's mail. You can order it from PDAir direct -- there's also a guy on eBay selling them for $18.99.
The case is a very snug fit -- the keyboard slides into a pouch formed by the back of the case and a clear plastic keyboard cover. This works much better than the clear plastic & velcro keyboard cover their Wizard case used -- the Wizard case was pretty loose, and the Velcro doesn't hold up to repeated opening/closing.
The case cutouts (for buttons, USB jack, etc) match up pretty well once you get the Kaiser firmly seated -- that can take a bit of work since the case is so snug. These cutouts make the buttons easy to find -- especially the power button.
The only real problem with this case, IMHO, is the lack of microSD card storage -- previous PDAir cases have had at least one card storage pocket. Overall I'd give this case an 8.5 out of 10.

3waygeek said:
The case is a very snug fit -- the keyboard slides into a pouch formed by the back of the case and a clear plastic keyboard cover. This works much better than the clear plastic & velcro keyboard cover their Wizard case used -- the Wizard case was pretty loose, and the Velcro doesn't hold up to repeated opening/closing.
The case cutouts (for buttons, USB jack, etc) match up pretty well once you get the Kaiser firmly seated -- that can take a bit of work since the case is so snug. These cutouts make the buttons easy to find -- especially the power button.
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Nice review, I'll probably get one.
The only real problem with this case, IMHO, is the lack of microSD card storage -- previous PDAir cases have had at least one card storage pocket. Overall I'd give this case an 8.5 out of 10.
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I find an 8/16GB micro sd card enough, I put the spares in my normal money wallet.

I bought one a while back and it lasted less than a month,I was using the belt clip and the leather on the back became loose and the case became useless.!

PDA Air book type case
Bought this on ebay $15 + postage another $15 to GB
I don't use belt clips, it is a little thick and tight, may wear in. I seem to buy a whole shed load of accessories initially, see what I like, and then re-cycle the rest back onto ebay.
So far i quite like it if I'm walking about, but in the office, I tend to take it out and put it my shirt pocket (why do so many work shirts these days are less a pocket!!?)

I have both PDAir and Krusell case and to be frank, I like the PDAir more. However, beware of the screwed in belt clip as it might get loosen after some time, I dropped mine once but luckily on the carpet.

I Agree that the PDAir is a pretty good case, the belt clip post is the only part I changed. For a case that can stay on and be fully functional, and clip into a car mount, this one is hard to beat.
Here's my review and pics of my "improvements";
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1648005&postcount=136
I have since switched to the Pocket Solutions "Signature Series" flip as it's the best of all worlds for me as I can use the phone as a touch screen type and then very easily slip the phone out of the case to use the keyboard and/or show off the phone with no case. It really has the best swivel post I've ever seen;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790595&postcount=246

I bought the rectangular one with the free battery and it fits great and works great. The price for the whole thing was less then half the price of a battery from AT&T. Only thing is it took almost 3 wks to get.
I'm thinking about getting another one for my office.

How about this one ? Not sure how bulky it is but it looks nice.
_www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=896

RemE said:
I Agree that the PDAir is a pretty good case, the belt clip post is the only part I changed. For a case that can stay on and be fully functional, and clip into a car mount, this one is hard to beat.
Here's my review and pics of my "improvements";
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1648005&postcount=136
I have since switched to the Pocket Solutions "Signature Series" flip as it's the best of all worlds for me as I can use the phone as a touch screen type and then very easily slip the phone out of the case to use the keyboard and/or show off the phone with no case. It really has the best swivel post I've ever seen;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790595&postcount=246
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Where did you bought your vent clip???
thanks

Another case thread...Slimmest Kaiser Case?

Well there seems to be a lot of views about the best cases out there, just wondered what the most 'pocket friendly' case was?
Don't care about the material as long as it isn't a sock or a stick-on option (ie an actual case)
Definitely no belt loop, preferably a very low profile clasp etc...
Basically just want something that is likely to stop it getting scratched up in a bag or if it was dropped, but don't need full armour!
Any good suggestions?

I've been looking for something pocket friendly as well... I'm almost ready to just get a thin sunglass pouch... currently I'm using a case for a Sprint Mogul, but it has a belt clip...

i use an ipod slip case, and have pulled off the belt clip, gives good protection to the screen,
going to order a leater slip case from www.pdair.com to see what thats like

I've got one of these - http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561
Doesn't add much to the size at all, and I keep mine in my pocket all the time.

Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm

I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone

scharnet said:
Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm
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The "tiltflipblack" is made by PDair and is available for 1/2 that price. I've had one for several weeks and it still looks new, and I wear it every day. It's the perfect case for me.

The slimest most "pocketable" case I've found yet, is the formfitting Noreve case as seen here:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00006945.htm
It is also one of the very few - true - formfitting cases (using a laminated leather design, w/o the ugly and disturbing plasting cover over the KB. It protects the front and back really well, if not so much the sides. Easy to use and good workmanship.
Actually it IS meant (IMO) for pocket carrying.
Have it for about a month, still looks as new. If however looking for a drawback, then to my daily use pattern there is one. While in the case using the Kaiser/Tilt for navigation (in a cradle) needs taking it out of the case.
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Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Just wanted to add my comments based on owning 4 different cases for the Tilt/Kaiser ...
The PDAir aluminum cased is good and pocketable. It is a little on the heavy side, but I've carried it arond now for a couple of weeks and it's all right. The downside is that there is a hard plastic protector over the touchscreen of the Tilt. You have to open the case to use the touchscreen or you have to take the hard plastic out. You can either cut out or push it out with some force, but the plastic is glued in and is under the neoprene that cushions the Tilt against the case. Not the smallest feel in the pocket, but no leather covered cardboard bulk feel. The size of this reminds me of a naked 8125 in my pocket (did that without disaster for almost 2 years).
I also tried the PDAir leather flip case. That one is definitely not pocketable unless you have some REALLY big pockets. And I'm not a big flip cover guy. Another strike is the plastic keyboard cover.
I also tried the Noreve and it's a nice leather case. I would consider this one pocketable, it's rather slim. But it has the flip cover. The good thing is that it has no plastic keyboard cover. It's a little loose when you close the cover with the snap. It's not loosely held in ... that's a good fit. But the snap doesn't hold the flip cover down as firmly as I'd like.
Lastly, I JUST snapped on one of the plastic snap-on kind. Good fit, but not sure how much the plastic will help in a fall. It snapped on tightly ... so tightly it took 15 minutes to get it off! I did not like that at all. If something goes wrong and you need to drop the battery quickly ... 'quickly' won't happen with this case. You can still use the touchscreen and it's a very tight snap on fit. Doesn't add much bulk or weight for pocket storage. NOTE: if you pick one of these up, be careful and check whether the belt clip button on the case is screw on or permanent. The permanent ones won't be pocketable.
The best feel in the pocket is the plane Tilt/Kaiser with no case. But I know I'm pushing my luck if I continue to do that. Still switching up to see what I end up liking most. Hope this info helps folks.

Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
YES!
The openings for the keypad and LCD are tappered to provide the best access to the edges but they become alittle harder to get at due to the thickness of the plastic.
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
Yes the screen slides out and up to the normal position. The upper softkeys are silightly harder to get at when tilted due to the tickness of the plastic.
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
Fit was tight, and snapped into place. I do not plan to use the clip as it is optional, but I will follow up with a proper review and test it out. I will get exact mesuraments later but it is not a big change and well worth the extra size.
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Yup! Cheap Too!
I will follow up with a better review tonight.

What I do not understand about using the transparent plastic snap, is why the hack would one need a case at all when all the really "pocket sensitive" components (Touch screen, Camera lens) are not covered at all... IMO if one is indiferent to this, they may not need a case at all.
I guess that all cases are kind of trade offs. Whatever protects adds bulk in the zones protected, light protection protects less than heavy armor but presents snappier use and so on.
The potentially best solution I've seen yet is actually not offered for the Tilt/Kaiser. It is made by EB Cases and called the eNovo. It is made of sturdy yet thin laminated leather, offering a form fitting case with an optional leather flip.
http://www.ebcases.com/-strse-3333/eNOVO-PAQ-6500/Detail.bok
I'm trying for some time to convince EB, Noreve and BoxWave (the ones apparently having the technology) to think about it...
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Saar

thanks kahibbi and SpeedRazr for your input, i look forward to your review

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I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I picked this up from DayDeal.com and it didnt' fit my ATT tilt. the back does but the front will not stay on
i picked up the alum. case for travel and biking it is perfect. also from DayDeal

A CASE that PROTECTS

Hi,
I am one of the unlucky few to have dropped my Kaiser's and thereby damaged its LCD. I am about to replace the LCD.
At the same time, I want to prevent future damage and wondering what case might best protect the Kaiser, even it it is accidentally dropped.
I have reviewed the lengthy thread on "what is the best case for the Kaiser", but the verdict is not clear. I want a case that:
* gives me easy access to the device and most functionality like keyboard, without having to take it out (hence the pouches are out)
* allows me to use the screen
* I can put in my pocket and with an optional belt clip (I hardly use it)
* most importantly, protects the body of the device and the screen.
* does not add too much bulk
* should be able to sit in a vehicle mount
I am inclined toward the Seidio Slim rubberized case or the PDair aluminion metal case. Both of them seem to protect the body of the device, but don't seem to protect the screen.
Alternatively, I am thinking of the leather case (flip-type preferred) such as:
* Proporta Alu-Leather Case
* PDair Leather case (I like the crokodile pattern)
* Noreve case
* Krussel's Orbit with Multiadapt
What would you recommend ?
Thanks - Manny

I have the Krussel. Like it alot and have the multidapt car holder as well. Extremely well made and very protective. I know I can drop it and it will be fine. Haven't tried, but it's that well constructed. Easy to use the belt clip and to take it off and put it in a pocket.
Big. Does not fit conveniently in jeans pocket. Swore I'd never use a belt clip, but I do now unless I'm wearing shorts or pants with a bigger pocket. However, the size is a tradeoff with protection. Most of the other cases I've used did not protect the screen much or at all. This has two layers of screen protection. Again, I think you'd have to try to break it if it's in the case.
A bit of a pain to use the camera. Everything else is very accessible, but you have to fold the protective layer over to use the camera. Not awful, but not super convenient.
If you don't mind the size, I'd highly recommend.

thanks very much for your quick reply.
The size does not bother me very much because, most often, i keep the device in my brief case, and then use my bluetooth headset (Sony DS980) to make and receive calls. I rarely interact with the device directly (e.g., when I need to use the calender, GPS, etc). Hence i might sacrifice weight over protection.
thanks again - MN

I got one of those metal cases for mine it has a glass pice over the screen to protect it. its got a hinge at the back so you can open it to use the touch screen I got it off of ebay for like $20 only thing is its realy slick and hard to hold onto sometimes.
about forgot here's a link
http://cgi.ebay.com/MONACO-BLACK-ME...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

mech_supernova said:
I got one of those metal cases for mine it has a glass pice over the screen to protect it. its got a hinge at the back so you can open it to use the touch screen I got it off of ebay for like $20 only thing is its realy slick and hard to hold onto sometimes.
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thanks very much. can you please send the URL of the place you got it from on Ebay, if you still have it. does the device sit firmly in the case? I like the idea of a hinge...
thanks - Manny

yea I updated my privious post and yes it sets firm it has this black foam pading inside the case to keep from scraching it too it comes in 2 colores black and grey

mech_supernova said:
yea I updated my privious post and yes it sets firm it has this black foam pading inside the case to keep from scraching it too it comes in 2 colores black and grey
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thanks very much. How different is this Mocaco case from the PDair alminium case -- they look very similar. Any thoughts ?
thanks Manny

I have looked in a dozen places I cant find a difference they both look like the exact same thing I got the Monaco Aluminum Case

I've got the PDair aluminium case. There's hard plastic over the screen, and it's fits quite well (better than a similar case I got for my old Hermes).

I have the monaco case. Hard Plastic covering the screen. Its saved my phone many times over already.