mini plug on headphones - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

I'm hoping to get some headphones for listening to MP3s on the JAM. Rather than modify the original pair, I'd like to get some which retract into a reel. I know there are some available which have 2.5mm mini jacks on them, but I'm worried that they won't work with the JAM.
To test the water, I've tried a standard stereo 2.5mm -> 3.5mm adapter (from MAPLINS) and found that it doesn't work quite right. The left channel comes through fine, but the right channel seems to be a mix of both left and right. I figure this is because the normal stereo plug actually shorts out two of the connectors on the JAMs socket (which has an extra connector presumably for the MIC?)
Soes anyone here know how these 4-pole sockets work? Are they standard across phones? Is it possible to buy a 4-pole 2.5mm plug and then solder that onto a different pair of headphones? (I can't seem to find 4-pole 2.5mm plugs anywhere...)
If we can figure this out, I'm sure it'd be very useful info for all those JAM users out there...
Cheers!
Simon

I already replied in the compact Jam forum.
http://www.compactjam.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=258&PN=1
Matt

Try this...
http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=113091

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How to find headset adapters?

I would like to use my Sony headset on my XDA II, but a normal adapter 2,5 => 3,5 mm does not work.
Could someone help me to joy of my mp3 albums :wink:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382404166&category=14419&rd=1
try your local electronics shop, radioshack, tandys, maplins or whatever there is out there in italy.
just get a stereo 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter
maplins sell them for 75p each
this is the site i ordered my headset adaptor from; a little pricey but services are tops. http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
i use the retractable adaptor with the removable headphone; from there you can plug in any headset with a 3.5 jack. it already comes with a microphone so no worries about answering a call while listening to the tunes.
cheers
robson
http://www.expansys.de/product.asp?code=105812&asource=106055
I bought this one about 1mnth ago, works perfect with my B&O headset
do all 2.5 stereo converters work as in do all 2.5 stereo adaptors have the mic part too ?
not all 2.5 - 3.5 mm jack converters have the mic; before i purhcased mine from the website i mentioned i saw a converter selling rather cheaply here in thailand. it was a very simple converter; plug the 2.5 jack to the xda's port and then plug in your headphones with the 3.5 jack. no mic; so if you received a call you could hear the person on the other end but not necessarity talk to him. you'd have to remove the jacks and answer the phone.
that's why i like the one i bought; the wire is retractable and thus avoids tangles. i can unplug the single headphone and put in my sony or b&o headset. if i receive a call i simly pull on the mic (extend the wire) and answer the call. as long as your headphone as a 3.5 mm jack it'll work with the converter.
2 cents worth
cheers mate
robson
Robson,
You use XDA I or XDA II? Are the plugs for two version same?
I bought a converter for xda which allows stereo speakers/headset use however when I saw it I realised it is a very cheap adaptor that can be got for pennies, the reason I sent for it was because when I tried a standard 2.5 to 3.5 stereo adaptor it appeared reluctant to go into the socket, when the expensive adaptor came it said "this adaptor may appear reluctant to go in the socket, give it a push", so I spent enough to buy halfo a dozen and still got the same item
I just went back to the ebay sale that I got that adaptor from, even though it is being sold as xda/xda2 compatable, he has now put an addition to his ad saying that it dont work with xda2, doesnt make sense to me because the old xda1 headset seems to work ok as far as I know on xda2.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382404166&category=14419&rd=1
hey sohand,
re: Robson,
You use XDA I or XDA II? Are the plugs for two version same?"
i use the xda2; but the converter i bought from the hk site i also used it for my xda1. when i bought the converter for the xda1; no problems with the plugs into the units port. when i then switched to xda2; i WAS worried that the plug of my converter wouldn't go in. it seemed kinda tight and snug; thus it did crossed my mind that i wasted money on the convereter. i studied it for quite a while and found out that it does work with the xda2 as well. i was a little reluctant about it at first; the customer service guy from the site said that the plug is used for both the xda1 and xda2. so i went ahead (and crossed my fingers) and pushed the plug inside the xda2's port. it went all the way in; and it works quite well. the present port of the xda2 is a little more pushed inside having the rubber cover and all. for the xda1 the port / plug was more exposed. but essentially they are the same and thus both work work with the same converter.
cheers
robson
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32242&item=3384042365
The standard 2.5 to 3.5 plug adaptor does not work with xda2, the size of the moulding and the rubber bung on the xda2 will not allow insertion, I have ordered one of the flying lead type, "link above", I will let you know if that works when it arrives.
Not yet a perfect one for XDA2
I have just received my pc-mobile.net retractable one. It fits the XDA2 socket nicely, no problem, and I can talk thro' the mic, I can plug in my favourite headphones, the volume control works....
The only problem is, the "Pickup" button on the Mic does not work on XDA2....
I bought the flying lead type of converter and although the end looks exactly like the end on the xda2 headphones and the moulding is small, it still does not work, it has to be pulled slighly out to work, I am giving up on this because I have a feeling that the socket will eventually end up banjaxed from all the insertions and withdrawals.
XDA2 to amplifier
Do you think it is safe to hook up XDA2 to amplifier and thus play MP3 music on big speakers ?
Petr V.

JAM reverses stereo?!

OK - this is weird... I bought an adapter from Expansys that is specifically designed for the JAM. It has a 2.5mm stereo+mic jack at one end and a standard 3.5mm stereo headphone socket at the other.
I plugged in a set of headphones and noticed that the left and the right channels are the wrong way round! Now, this doesn't actually matter with the normal headphones that come with the JAM because you can put them in either way round. (To get the stereo correct, you need to put the microphone on the right hand side of your head, by the way).
So... is the adapter flipping the stereo round, or is the JAM wired up wrong?
Bizarre.
Simon
P.S. Let's face it, this doesn't matter much UNLESS you are watching films on your JAM, when things get really weird if stereo is wrong...
DoubleWah said:
OK - this is weird... I bought an adapter from Expansys that is specifically designed for the JAM. It has a 2.5mm stereo+mic jack at one end and a standard 3.5mm stereo headphone socket at the other.
I plugged in a set of headphones and noticed that the left and the right channels are the wrong way round! Now, this doesn't actually matter with the normal headphones that come with the JAM because you can put them in either way round. (To get the stereo correct, you need to put the microphone on the right hand side of your head, by the way).
So... is the adapter flipping the stereo round, or is the JAM wired up wrong?
Bizarre.
Simon
P.S. Let's face it, this doesn't matter much UNLESS you are watching films on your JAM, when things get really weird if stereo is wrong...
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I think you're right. I soldered a 2,5mm to 3,5mm adapter recently, and I had to shift the wires to get the stereo perspective right. When I first soldered it the stereo was reversed.
So... either HTC wants you to wear the headset with the microphone on the right side and the Magician is wired correct, or the stereo is reversed...
// Anders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14505&start=125
I have no idea is it software issue or hardware is set to reverse stereo.
Anyway this must be some kind of madness...why to reverse audio ??!!??

Connecting phone to a car stereo

Hi all
I have a MDA compact which I wish to connect to my car stereo as a handsfree unit. I have an auxiliary input for my stereo.
Is it possible just to purchase a 2.5 to 3.5mm lead for this? I have a gut feeling the mic won't work - please help? Is it possible to buy such a lead with a built in mic?
Thanks
Carl
Hi, I used to have a XDAII which I connected to the auxillary port on my car stereo, just like you suggest. It worked perfectly. When using the phone, the caller's voice woudl come out of the car speakers and the mic was powerful enough to pick up my voice even though the unit was mounted on my windscreen.
Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact. Sorry couldn't offer more advice on your particular device, but I hope my experiences help.
monster said:
Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact.
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I do have the same setup. I can confirm U the mic still work after U plug in the adapter but I normally use a BT headset when I am in the car.
OK, so I assume that if I purchase a 2.5mm to 3.5mm lead, the mic should work?
carlreader said:
OK, so I assume that if I purchase a 2.5mm to 3.5mm lead, the mic should work?
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Yes. 8)
OK - did some work on this.
I decided to cut the earplugs off of the supplied headset, and attach a 3.5mm socket.
I now have a custom XDA mini lead
All works, however volume from car stereo speakers is extremely low. Any ideas? (Yes, I have checked car volume, phone volume and headphone volume!)
Cheers
Carl
jackleung said:
monster said:
Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact.
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I do have the same setup. I can confirm U the mic still work after U plug in the adapter but I normally use a BT headset when I am in the car.
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Hi Jackleung, my mic is being diabled, and i am beginning to think that I may not have the right connector. I have a standard 3.5mm connecting the exec. Can you let me know how you have wired your device with the type of connector? You may be able to solve a longstanding problem of mine.
Thanks in advance.
I found my mic was cancelled with the Mini, hence the custom cable.
hope this helps!
monster said:
Hi Jackleung, my mic is being diabled, and i am beginning to think that I may not have the right connector. I have a standard 3.5mm connecting the exec. Can you let me know how you have wired your device with the type of connector? You may be able to solve a longstanding problem of mine.
Thanks in advance.
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I think my adapter is just a standard 2.5mm to 3.5mm converter. I tried 2 different adapter (one from Radio shack and the other one from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-CABLE-headp...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Both are working for me (I will try again today and confirm U tomorrow), therefore I think yr problem is in the exec hardware itself.
To Carl,
Yr setup will not work since yr supplied headset adapter has at least 4 connection on the plug compare to 3 on the standard one. The extra connection is for the mic. If U cut the wire like this:
<---- X --- mic+volumn control ------ ear plugs
Then U can no longer use the mic w/ the custom wire. But if U:
<------- mic+volumn control -- X ---- ear plugs
then the mic on yr mic+volumn control will pick up the voice
hi jackleung
Thanks for the reply - the lead was cut after the mic but before the earphones.
This was because a standard lead with a 2.5 / 3.5mm adaptor didnt work.
My only issue now is the low volume!
Cheers
Carl
I tried it on my Imate Jam again. My mic on the Jam still works (eg: Voice Command via Cyberon Voice Dial. So do phone conversation) even I use my 2.5mm/3.5mm adapter to connection it to my car stereo.
Hi,
I did the same for me and a friend of mine with a Univer..er - Jasjar and connected this to an FM transmitter - We have excellent sound quality, volume and the you can still answer calls by pressing the Mic Button
Frikkie
(If you are gonna be late - dont rush, else someone else and YOU will be cross)
check connections?
I have done exactly what you did, put a 3.5mm socket on the end of the included handsfree cable.. volume is fine, and i regularly connect it to the aux in the car, and multiple sets of headphone/speakers...
The best suggestion to your volume problem is to try again.. i know i had issue with the stereo channels getting screwed up (and even combined at one point) and it was just trial and error getting the connections clean..
You have to ensure that both the shaft and tip connectors on the socket are grounded to the shared ground on the circuit board.. otherwise the audio will probably be less than perfect.. check for dodgy soldering/connection.. coz i can assure you that your theory does work!
Dan
There is another topic on this here.
The person from there uses:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT02
which has two 3.5mm plugs.
Description: It has a 2.5mm plug at one end (this plugs into the PocketPC) and two 3.5mm sockets at the other end (into which you plug your 3.5mm headset or headphones).
My question was: could I put a standard 3.5 car kit mic into this 3.5 headset jack (the one with the mic)? Would the mic work if I plug it into a headset jack?
I assume the other one (headphones = stereo only) I will plug it directly into my car auxiliary via a 3.5mm to RCA cable, right?

8125 Audio Output Jack Problems?

I recently have gone through two different Body Glove Sport Stereo headphones with some issues. I can't decide if I have another faulty headset or if the phone audio connector is the issue. The body glove headset is similar to the headset that comes with the 8125, but it looked more comfortable.
The problem I am having is this, the headphones only play in the right side. Messing with the plug on the headset results in some quick burst of audio on the left side and pulling it out a tad gives me some faint left audio and the right side audio goes out completely. It seems the plug and jack don't quite jive... anyone else experience this? It comes with an adapter for the "bigger jack" and upon trying one of my girls iPods, they work fine with the adapter in the mix.
My application is this... I listen to MP3's while riding my motorcycle and the earphones that came with the phone hurt my ears after a while. Plus they don't have the greatest audio quality. Looking for a comfy replacement, but the above issue has me scratcing my head.
Here is a link to the headphones: here
i think...
i think you have the wrong adapter. i tried using the slvrs adapter with my 8125 and it did not work same prob as you. i went to radioshack and got one from there and it did. im most absolutely sure is the inner wiring. what happens is that there's also a connection for a microphone on the 8125 so some adapters dont work.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Cingular_8125-559~area~accessories~item~PPCPADPT21.htm
ps my friend got a mono one at radio shack and it worked for him both sides. hes not a audiophile but you get the idea, it has to be the connection of your plug.
The headphones in addition to be being stereo, have the microphone too, I think the paragraph in the page you linked clears up a few questions for me:
Most manufacturers create their devices allowing audio compatibility with only their specific brand headset or headphones. We have designed and engineered several different types of audio adapters to accommodate a variety of devices. Our unique audio adapters give you the freedom to use any standard 2.5/3.5 mm. 3 conductor headset and/or your favorite set of headphones.
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It would seem although the Body Glove headset uses the 2.5mm jack, the internals of the 8125 are off enough that a select few aftermarket stereo headsets with mics will work with the phone. Interesting.
Upon further examination of the jack, it is different than the one that came with the phone. In spite of the BodyGlove being a stereo headet with a mic... just like the one that comes with the phone, the connector is different enough to not with aftermarket stuff I guess. Those dirty rascals!!!
The connector on the left is the one that comes with the 8125, the one on the right is the BodyGlove.
Searched and found this old thread. I went to connect my 8125 Wizard to my cars 3.5 jack using a standard adapter and it only came left channel.
Is there a more cost effective proprietary four-conductor jack to a 3.5 mm converter than posted above at PPC Techs? I was hoping to spend a few dollars.
I'm actually using my old Ngages audio cable to get Stereo sound out of my car stereo. It works but sometimes I can't use the mic on the cell phone to talk.
When it works it's really cool, but otherwise I gotta unplug the cable and use it like a regular phone during phone calls.

Another type of audio adaptor, seen it?

Hey everyone, I have been looking around to find an adapter that will allow you to charge the device, and has a plug(s) that allows for an external mic and ear phones. I have seen the ones that allow for just the 3.5 for music but don't have another plug for a mic input... Or they have a built in mic which will not work for me. The reason for this is so I can put it in my motorcycle helmet. I need to be able to attach a wind resistant mic. Also want to use my ear buds so I can actually hear people and music. Any ideas? Thanks!
John
Try www.Expansys.com they have some good accessories for the TyTN II
Already looked
I looked on expansys already. Did not find anything on their site. The closest thing I could find is this: http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
Any other ideas?
I don't think there is currently anything that will do what you want out of the box. You are probably going to have to get a soldering iron out and come up with a homebrew solution. You could wire up your wind resistant mic to replace the built in mic in either the standard headset or an adaptor. You are still going to need something like 11pin to 5&6pin or 3in1 adaptor to allow charging and audio/mic.
You can use the y-cable and stereo headphones w/ built in mic from the AT&T 8525 to do what you're asking.

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