Hello every one
Is there a possibility to change the memory to 128 MB, according to the IPAQ sources.. they already change 32 MB to 64 MB by removing the two chips 16MB x 2 and change it to 32MB x 2, is this possible? if it is possible then we can change also this two(2) chips lying there with 64 mb, I read it in some sites (IPAQ) that they already change the 32MB to 64MB, it will be good for us if we can update our XDA memory to 128 to put more programs and also for XDA to have more space for the program to run..
Any memory over 64MB is never main memory. The upgrade places install a driver that makes the other 64 MB as a second storage card.
Check these guys out for memory upgrades.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com
Interesting. But is the chip in a socket you can just pop out? I'd really hate to have to unsolder a chip inside there.
chocodough said:
Interesting. But is the chip in a socket you can just pop out? I'd really hate to have to unsolder a chip inside there.
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The Two chip doesn't have a socket it is soldered/welded inside. so you need to use a special soldering to remove and replace that chip.
JimDavis said:
Check these guys out for memory upgrades.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com
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This is great, I check out the site and It is possible to change the memory, I will try to experiment on this and keep the forum Informed of what will happen... but still I need the special tool (soldering Iron).. :wink:
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Under 'Device Information' on my XDA 2 the 'Flash Size' reads as 32mb. Shouldn't it read 64mb? Just to confirm, can a few of you tell me what your XDA 2 says?
If you could reply a.s.a.p I would appriciate it as I've already requested an RMA, but then thought I should double check with the XDA-Developers community before sending it back.
the flash read 32 meg on my machine too.
The XDA II has a 64Mb ROM. 32Mb is used for 'standard' PPC software and the other half is divided between the on board 'Storage' folder and an area used to hold the Extended ROM components that auto-install after a hard reset.
Search these forums for "ROM Size" & "Extended Rom" for further details, but rest assured you got a 64Mb unit.
I did notice the same thing, i.e. I still use XDA I but on many www ads there has been more or less clear distinction that you can buy either 64MB or 128MB XDA II model, strange for me as XDA II has been using in vast of its advertising campaign selling point of having total 128MB memory :?
regards, monika
A himalaya has:
128 MB RAM
32 MB flash (Memory mapped, internal to the Xscale processor)
32 MB flash in a 'Disk On Chip' (addressed as disk, special drivers)
Most of the latter 32 MB is mounted as "\Storage" (16 MB), "\Extended_ROM" (14.5 MB, hidden mount, sometimes locked for writing) and used for various other things, including the boot-time splash image.
For more general hardware details:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaHardware
Extended_ROM modifications:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5514
please let me understand that items clearly ....
128MB memory means you can move the memory tab in start/settings/system/memory between STORAGE and PROGRAM options from 1 to 127MB or there are some limitations imposed ??
I am still with XDA I and ... I am curious
regards, monika
Memory slider
You can move it, but not below the current utilization.
If your device shows 26 MB in use like mine at the moment, you can obviously not move the slider below 26 MB. It also auto moves when needed, If I put it around 27 MB, it will jump up a little after a short while.
I just leave it as is, has not had any need to move it yet. The only application I have that really needs program memory is TomTom Navigator 2 with a large map loaded (Scandinavia).
Regards
Michael
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You can move it, but not below the current utilization.
If your device shows 26 MB in use like mine at the moment, you can obviously not move the slider below 26 MB. It also auto moves when needed, If I put it around 27 MB, it will jump up a little after a short while.
I just leave it as is, has not had any need to move it yet. The only application I have that really needs program memory is TomTom Navigator 2 with a large map loaded (Scandinavia).
Regards
Michael
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REGARDING XDA I
heh, seems like I have asked just a minute very much the same question (also regarding ..... auto fall back memory split) but do you know ... why the tab is automatically moves back when I assign less than let's say 4 - 5MB of memory
REGARDING XDA II
what memory split is possible ??
regards, monika
Memory Slider
Monika, I can move the slider to a position inside the blue band, but a 'saf' distance from the ends.
On my current system with 26 MB Storage and 12,48 MBV Program memory in use, I can move the slider between a storage area of about 41 MB to about 98 MB. If I move beyond these values, the slider will pop back to the middle after a couple of seconds.
I just moved the slider to a position with 92 MB storage and 27 MB Program memory free. I then started TomTom Navigator 2. The slider popped back to the middle after TomTom loaded.
As the text tells, it is a temporarily adjustment, the system will move change the allocation as it sees fit.
Regards
Michael
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bodstrup said:
Monika, I can move the slider to a position inside the blue band, but a 'saf' distance from the ends.
On my current system with 26 MB Storage and 12,48 MBV Program memory in use, I can move the slider between a storage area of about 41 MB to about 98 MB. If I move beyond these values, the slider will pop back to the middle after a couple of seconds.
I just moved the slider to a position with 92 MB storage and 27 MB Program memory free. I then started TomTom Navigator 2. The slider popped back to the middle after TomTom loaded.
As the text tells, it is a temporarily adjustment, the system will move change the allocation as it sees fit.
Regards
Michael
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that is the answer I have been looking for, thank you very much ... now at least I know what to expect once decide to buy XDA II one fine day
regards, monika
What are the RAM series that we could use to upgrade our xda from 32 Mb to 128 Mb? :roll: I'v seen several sites that they could do that it's too expensive unless we should send it to TAIWAN :? It could be helpfull if we know what chip type they use of RAM don't you agree??
Still hoping!
I'm wondering if somebody would calls for the question :roll:
i had mine upgraded in usa... ppctechs.com (i think)
and they list the type of memory chip used somewhere on their site.
its not a secret, but removing and soldering the new ones
is what they charge for mostly
Search the news, topic has been developped many times
(read the title)...
You can upgrade main memory to 64 MB max;
If you upgrade to 128, you have 64 MB memory and 'memory disk' of 64 (plus the SD of course).
I've read that only one firm (don't remember the name) could provide drivers so that the 64 other MB can be recognized as disk. If you don't have them, your 128 MB will be divided into 64 main memory + 0 (zero) MB disk
Olivier.
Kita thanks for the reply it was useful
Hi friends,
After almost half a year using this O2 Exec, I found it's really good and met all my needs. However, there is still problem with the insufficient program memory even though I used the "closed" functions by pocket plus and clean the device from time to time by memaid. I also use the clearnotification.
Is it possible to adjust the memory allocation the same as the Magician or Himalaya? I know they are all different. If we can combine the extended rom of my Exec to the program memory, it may help a lot.
Cheers,
Doesnt work like that anymore. Try a search for persistant storage or the like. Now with WM5 you have storage memory (built-in flash) and RAM. This has been brought up many times.
Know how this works. But, one day I playing with my O2 Exec, landed in the Memory applet. I suddenly had an image on the PPC, which had a slider to allocate memory . The image was merged with the background. But, my PPC had freezed.
Wish I had the presence of mind to click a photograph , before I did a soft reset.
Food for thought, maybe there is something in there, not known to us.
I think maybe the freeze was because you crashed your machine showing that slider.
I have seen someone post on here about seeing it, and the fact that MS recycled the memory screen from WM2003SE and hid that part.
You're never going to be able to change Flash into RAM, they are (three) distinct chips and used separately by the OS.
The only way you could do it is to write a virtual memory driver the same way that WinXP and other desktop OSs use paging files on the hard drive to simulate RAM. Slow, lots of overheads, no advantage whatsoever on the Universal.
So the solution to your problem may be the same as mine:
I wrote off to a company that does electronics work and asked them if they can fit another couple of RAM chips to my device. This page says that there is room for two more (another 64MB?) RAM chips on the mainboard if you can BGA solder. Still waiting on a reply.
A 128MB Uni would kick the backside out of all other handhelds. Oh, and USB host, but that is a whole world of work that nobody has tried yet. Damn you HTC!
Of course you realise that the more RAM you have the worse the battery life will be.
I'm also thinking to put more chip into the free space but not sure that we need to do anything with the OS to run on 128MB hardware.
Can we just put more chip on it? I want to try
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I'm also thinking to put more chip into the free space but not sure that we need to do anything with the OS to run on 128MB hardware.
Can we just put more chip on it? I want to try
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If I remember, Asukal or Mwang(mwang - sorry if I misspelled Ur nick) already tried to add more ram chips, but wothout any effect - no raam increase - unfortunately for us
:-(
phsnake said:
xenon_art said:
I'm also thinking to put more chip into the free space but not sure that we need to do anything with the OS to run on 128MB hardware.
Can we just put more chip on it? I want to try
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If I remember, Asukal or Mwang(mwang - sorry if I misspelled Ur nick) already tried to add more ram chips, but wothout any effect - no raam increase - unfortunately for us
:-(
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so disappointed.
thanks for your info.
hi guys!
i just received my HD2 and i already have 2 questions:
1. isn't supposed Hd2 to have a microUSB conector? it looks thiner and wider then connector i had for my old HD. i didn't have guts to stick the old cable in to check if it works. can somebody confirm the compatibility?
2. what the h**l is that 200Mb (more or less) storage memory? on my old hd i never had the memory problem? HD2 isn't supposed to have 512Mb RAM? isn't all available for instaling things omto them? i am totaly confused
thanks a bunch for enlightning!
mini usb - micro usb..... two different things.
512 ram is for programs and the system to use to run things, like ram on your pc, 200 rom is where programs get installed to, liked the hard disk on your pc. don't forget you can instal to your sd card too.
samsamuel said:
mini usb - micro usb..... two different things.
512 ram is for programs and the system to use to run things, like ram on your pc, 200 rom is where programs get installed to, liked the hard disk on your pc. don't forget you can instal to your sd card too.
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thanks for answers
mini vs micro = ok
the other one is not ok. i am not refering to RAM but to ROM memory. my bad!
so, again - ROM memory should be 448Mb (or 576MB on some custom ROMs)
how come is not all available?
i said before, on my old HD i never had a memory problem and it took me by surprise
incorrect, there is 448(576 with the right cooked rom and radio) ram not rom.
there IS 512 rom on the device,yes, and windows plus the other pre installed stuff takes around 250 meg leaving around 200 for user stuff.
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ROM memory should be 448Mb (or 576MB on some custom ROMs)
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No, RAM is 448 or 512. ROM is always 512MB. But, about 200-300 of those are used to store the system components (OS).
you guys are right. i am too new with hd2
however, the question is valid - how come is not enough?
i used cooked 6.5.x roms and same apps in my hd with no memory issue
I must say I don't have a problem. small apps get installed to main memory, anything large like sat nav software I instal to memory card. most apps are very small, not much more than 1 or 2 meg, difficult to fill all 200 meg.
Who said it's not enough?
I have around 70MB free now with quite a few apps, no problem so far. But yes we need to think about putting big programs on the storage card indeed (games can be 10-40MB each, typical "big" apps 1-5MB), so yes with a few you can easily fill the internal memory.
But it's also like always, people always want / "need" more even if it's useless... mostly about RAM in this case and the sooo popular 448->512MB fix. With 448MB, you have about 185MB free RAM upon boot. On my previous WM device, I had 80MB free on boot... and never came even close to filling that even with more running programs you'd want to have. So with 100MB more, I'd want to see someone who actually *needs* the extra 64MB...
Its actually an extra 128 meg, not 64, 448meg standard (with 128 set aside for graphics = 320 useable) and after the tweak its 576 with 128 set aside for graphics = 448 useable.
Indeed... seems I can't use a calculator at 1am anymore
HELLO!
My htc hd2 has only 336,96 ram but why?
cause i have o2 branding? Can i use all of the ram?
Thanks
I just checked my phone too. And i have 336,93 MB.
My hd2 is "Swedish"
yeah, so wtf? we got only 200 mb on the device and 336 ram?
WHY?
Uzb3k said:
HELLO!
My htc hd2 has only 336,96 ram but why?
cause i have o2 branding? Can i use all of the ram?
Thanks
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100 mega of memory are used for system process other 100+ mega are hidden in all the rom not based on 2.0x t mobile rom
that's correct, phone has 448, 128 set aside for graphics = 320mb.
how much did you think it had?
if you want the hidden 128 you ned to flash different rom and radio.
ok but what about the space? only 200 mb, where are the whole 512 mb of space? and how can I disable some services, because my free ram is only about 190 mb?
THANKS!
alot of the space you lose is taken up by the programs that come preinstalled (copilot etc...) as for freeing up space etc there is a good thread on here somewhere in the ROMs section that tells you what you can delete to free up space. Also SK Tools is pretty good. As for the missing storage i dont know where this goes either. We should have 512 but it never seems to get more than 250 - 300 at a push. I think some will be set aside for Core stuff and some will be the way the OS reads the space anyway (look at your PC HDD for example)
If you need more Ram then you will need to flash a cooked ROM. There is not that much you can do to the stock one to free up that much more.
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As for the missing storage i dont know where this goes either. We should have 512 but it never seems to get more than 250 - 300 at a push.
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correct, the system rom and radio rom takes up around 250 meg.