What Android Can't Do But WinMo Can -- an Android Lover's Thread - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I now view my HD2 as "An Android Phone That Also Boots Windows", because there are some daily driver Android builds that I think do a better job now than winmo, so maybe knowing what unsolvable Android issues are solved by windows will improve the Android experience and save hours of searching the Market. I would recommend someone buy an HD2 for Android, but keep these windows apps around as an "android add on pack" just to increase the 'cool factor.'
1.) Movie Maker: with TrakAx movie maker you can make and edit videos on your hd2 and add music photos etc, with cool transitions. It has limited fonts for captions, but it's a good movie maker. The app is fun to use 'only after' you watch TrakAx's tutorial video on their website where a cute English Gal shows you how easy it is.
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server that look great and have fast forward and rewind: Coreplayer on winmo is a great media player, with .mkv support, .avi and when used in combo with TCPMP player there are almost no formats that can't be played.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Maybe you want to have a 32gb sdcard and run all the different nav programs? Nav programs seem to be a matter of personal preference, so having ALL available options is something nice.
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: If you love psx games watch some youtubes on how to set this up and where to get the good versions and skins of this, and the onscreen controls are multi-touch good if you watch the videos and research how to set it up.
5.) Opera Mini 5 (build 5.1.21594): INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: the inertial scrolling with this browser is so fluid, fast and natural - there is no jitter/chop/lag - the fps is very high. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
6.) Free Hamachi: I think you need to pay for logmein hamachi on the Market (worth it for sure) but there are free clients in WinMo that work very well. If you 'need' to save money here you go.
7.) Free Grooveshark downloading: I love Tiny Shark and MP3 downloader off the market, but in winmo a developer named 'SciLor' has made a great freeware grooveshark downloader called "SciLor's GrooveMobile Downloader." what's also great about this app is that winmo's media players and coreplayer can play the song 'when it begins downloading,' which means Coreplayers graphic equalizer can work that tune 5-10 seconds after you click 'download.'
8.) Torrent Downloading on the phone: I haven't yet found an android app that does what WMTorrent does. WMTorrent is a paid app and there is a new and older version that both have their strengths. Don't expect full speed on wifi or 3g like on a pc, but this app does the job.
9.) Super Tethering via 'ICS Control v0.21': freeware that allows cel->bluetooth pan .. cel -> wifi .. bluetooth->wifi .. wifi->bluetooth .. bluetooth->vpn .. vpn->hamachi .. openvpn->usb. Basically, any interface can be routed to any other interface and subnets and dhcp servers can be added.
10.) Mortscript: 'Tasker' and 'gscript' in Android could be considered better in many ways, but Mortscript was/is a powerful and accessible scripting program for a mobile OS to automate tasks, make apps do cool stuff, enable long-chains of opening apps cutting/pasting/into other apps etc. I turned my old q9h into a 'talking/listening star trek phone' with mortscript by combining 'vlingo's returned speech results' with 'textspeech pro's tts program,' i could verbally ask it to read wikipedia pages for me or read the first couple pages of a spoken google search - and my programming skill is almost zero.
11.) Microsoft Voice Command: it's not as robust as what Android offers, but I don't think there is an Android app that is so 'instantly accurate with basic phone functions,' but then again the list of what MSVC can do in 2 seconds is a little more than basic. Android will catch up in a month or two no doubt.
12.) RemoteTracker phone finder: Android has phone finder apps, but if you lose your phone there is a chance that the sdcard is gonna get wiped. There is also the chance that the the phone will get hard-reset too, but before that happens RemoteTracker freeware is solid.
13.) Run Windows 98se faster on Winmo's Qemu: Windows 98 Second Edition can run on the hd2 reasonably well now, and some devs on XDA recently have been more active in getting different flavors of it to run even better and progress looks set to continue. This requires the 'qemu' emulator for winmo and a backwards-reading of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com
/showthread.php?t=637889&page=50 (I'm gonna try this right now)
14.) Gestures on any screen with any app: I installed LMT v0.8 onscreen multitouch gestures and I'm very impressed. By swiping left with 2 fingers I activate microsoft voice command, by swiping right with 2 fingers I launch TellMeExpertLauncher.exe and do bing searches (this takes less than 2 seconds from swipe to speak). These are just 14 of the customizable gestures that LMT can do, and it can do them on top of any app, even the camera or a movie, etc. This app also comes with a bonus "on screen game controller" that's multitouch and works great.
15.) Reverse-Bluetooth-Tethering: Lets say you want to pop your sim into another phone, but still have internet/voip on your hd2 via low power bluetooth tethering. Well, noone needs to do that really, but I actually do it a few days a week because I have an 'almost' dirty job where I use a very weather/work resistant q9h and I have it feed the hd2 internet through bluetooth when on break or in the truck.
THINGS MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD BY OTHER MEMBERS:
A.) Good E-Book Readers: like Alreader2, it's felt by some that all Android E-Book readers lack a certain something, though CoolReader comes close.
B.) Good Alarm Programs: like G-Alarm, some reviews praise it for having tons of alarms and features and varying snooze techniques like mazes or 'turning on a light' to activate the light sensor, and it's supposedly very easy to work all this stuff via a finger friendly today-screen plugin if you like.
C.) SPB Mobile Shell: a very elegant and nice UI for WinMo that sets a classic standard for many users.
D.) Office Mobile 2010: I myself have gone searching for office apps in the market a few times and I've been surprised that I DID NOT have immediate success finding good free office apps that were better than Office 2010. NOTE: Using 'BsB Tweaks' free app to add 'screen rotation' to excel and the other office apps might be a good idea.
E.) Cookies Home Tab Editor: HTC Sense on hd2 winmo is 'excellent,' but what takes it to a whole new level is Cookie's Home Tab Editor for making customizing your homescreen 'fun+productive.' When investing time choosing a good ROM to boot android, keeping CHT in mind might make HD2 a more enjoyable weapon of total annihilation.
F.) File encryption with FreeOTFEPDA: This is something I should be more proactive with, and on page 3 it's explained further, but my brother is 'security bent' and he is always upset at me for 'not encrypting my files.'
G.) rSAP Bluetooth Profile for VW/Audi Group Cars: Integrated bluetooth calling and contacts management in these cars requires what the HD2 has - rSAP Bluetooth Profile. Want your car to turn into your phone just by sitting in it? Also, some premium sound systems exist in these cars and I've read the connection to the HD2 is quite stable. (I had to read what rSAP is)
H.) Hide Your Caller ID Number To Strangers: someone brought up a good point that in winmo you can shield your caller ID from everyone except those in your contacts list. (I didn't know this)
I) Garmin XT: We all know Garmin - a clean running and reliable 'offline nav' app with maps that are always up to date. (I have this myself on an old q9h I keep in the glove compartment - shoulda remembered it earlier.)
What are other good things to know?

Igo8 works just fine in android.

I write in the spirit of love but I gotta take issue with some of your points:
1.) Movie Maker: Can't comment as I don't use, mainly as I'll always do this on a PC
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server: Thing is, I could never get this working easily on WinMo, but for me it works flawlessly on Android, using the default Web Browser to select the file, and then default video player or VPlayer to play.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Agree, I keep WinMo around purely for TomTom (and booting )
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: Wow, PSX4Droid works so perfectly out of the box for me, and with RomBuddy I can even download the games direct to my Droid. I donated to FPSECE and followed it closesly and praised it, but the bugs and the constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid. Give it a go (free version available, otherwise $3) if you haven't already.
5.) Opera Mobile 10 Final INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: Fair enough. Personally I've been happy with the default Android experience, as well as trying Opera, Dolphin and one or two others on Android.
6) I'll add e-book readers to your list: I was addicted to Alreader2 on WinMo, and all of the e-book readers on Android lack something (and I've tried them all). Either missing night-mode, or file compatibility, or saving restrictions, or just plain ugly when reading. Only CoolReader has come close (in fact, very close except for a couple of issues).
7) I also find myself trapped using HTC Sense on Android as I love it's email widgets, and can't find decent equivalents for other launchers.
... Oh, and I do miss Cookie's Home Tab. It is amazing software which could have been the saviour of WinMo if it had arrived two years earlier, and was built into official ROMs. Microsoft completely dropped the ball with UI and with AppMarkets.

pandollar said:
Igo8 works just fine in android.
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how did you manage to get it to work? I keep getting "Insert SD card with IGO8 files" or something like that thanks...

You are right about psx4droid, it is awesome. There are a few games I was addicted to back in the day, like Twisted Metal 2, and it runs at 60fps in FPSeCe, whereas it's kinda choppy in a couple Android builds I've tried - maybe I just need to try the right build, and yes the controller setup in psx4droid blows FPSeCe. The browsing experience in Android is excellent, I just am addicted to that Opera Mobile 10 Final.

smeddy said:
I write in the spirit of love but I gotta take issue with some of your points:
1.) Movie Maker: Can't comment as I don't use, mainly as I'll always do this on a PC
2.) Movies/TV via your Orb Server: Thing is, I could never get this working easily on WinMo, but for me it works flawlessly on Android, using the default Web Browser to select the file, and then default video player or VPlayer to play.
3.) TomTom, Navigon, Igo8, Route66 offline navigation apps: Agree, I keep WinMo around purely for TomTom (and booting )
4.) Fast psx emulation with FPSeCe: Wow, PSX4Droid works so perfectly out of the box for me, and with RomBuddy I can even download the games direct to my Droid. I donated to FPSECE and followed it closesly and praised it, but the bugs and the constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid. Give it a go (free version available, otherwise $3) if you haven't already.
5.) Opera Mobile 10 Final INCREDIBLY smooth browsing: Fair enough. Personally I've been happy with the default Android experience, as well as trying Opera, Dolphin and one or two others on Android.
6) I'll add e-book readers to your list: I was addicted to Alreader2 on WinMo, and all of the e-book readers on Android lack something (and I've tried them all). Either missing night-mode, or file compatibility, or saving restrictions, or just plain ugly when reading. Only CoolReader has come close (in fact, very close except for a couple of issues).
7) I also find myself trapped using HTC Sense on Android as I love it's email widgets, and can't find decent equivalents for other launchers.
... Oh, and I do miss Cookie's Home Tab. It is amazing software which could have been the saviour of WinMo if it had arrived two years earlier, and was built into official ROMs. Microsoft completely dropped the ball with UI and with AppMarkets.
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thanks for being the first to add something to the list, I appreciate it. I think the hd2 is quite special (been playing with computers since 1979) and you helping build a list that helps other members here have a pocket computer that does anything is cool.

Twisted Metal 2! That remains my ultimate game ever ever ever, and its the game I got Psx4droid for. For me it works perfectly on the Black & Blue remix Rom. The Paris level stole years from my teenage years I am either Spectre or Warthog
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smeddy said:
constant controller set-up are WAY behind PSX4Droid.
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Lol no. You can set up your own way of controler in FPSEce while PSX4Droid have only pre set type of controller (i would even go as far as to say that there is only one controller).
Anyway, lack of other options in not a plus for simplicity.
Back to the topic: I agree with the Navigation and FPSEce points. I dont really mind others. Also winmo have better alarms (G-Alamr for example). I wasnt able to find good one in Android (created my own with tasker though).

so for PSX4Droid how do we specify the bios in our build? I am using HD2ONE.

Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android

KowboyBebop said:
Lol no. You can set up your own way of controler in FPSEce while PSX4Droid have only pre set type of controller (i would even go as far as to say that there is only one controller).
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I guess I do agree with you, but I just got so sick of configuring FPSECE that I enjoyed the "pick ROM and play" approach, and have been happy with the default controller. But point taken

SorenStirner said:
Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android
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I had been using SPB Mobile Shell on my phones, too. However, SPB Apps are poorly supported. If you try Android you would find that the apps are better, easier to install and uninstall, many more options using Android. Have you tried LauncherPlus? That really is better than APB MS. JMHO

pandollar said:
Igo8 works just fine in android.
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If you tried both versions you would know about huge difference between those two

SorenStirner said:
Well... this might not be crucial, but I've been using WinMo with SPB Mobile Shell on it in almost all my WinMo devices (countless). There's nothing that cool in Android
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Not crucial, but quite valid actually. I know there are many fans of spbshell, because it is awesome, and an spb shell version for android would be quite cool. Im not familiar with spb shell, but have seen it many times.

Something that was mentioned in another forum was that in FPSeCe you can have a different custom controls for each individual game: gsensor on/off, different layouts, etc. Now, it's a different .ini file each game, and making custom controls for each game is laborious, but I've done it and benefitted by it. Psx4droid will have this soon I'm sure. (I also need to try psx4droid on some of those mentioned builds.)

smeddy said:
Twisted Metal 2! That remains my ultimate game ever ever ever, and its the game I got Psx4droid for. For me it works perfectly on the Black & Blue remix Rom. The Paris level stole years from my teenage years I am either Spectre or Warthog
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I am either spectre or warthog -- you rock smeddy! I am starting to think Twisted Metal 2 should become one of my benchmarks for testing build/rom/radio combos.

I totally agree with the sentiments of this post. I loved my HD2. It was a remarkable device. I also loved all the programs you mentioned. However, i really wish the phone had been Android right from the get go. The hardware was so awesome, pictures we actually clear and didn't look grainy. (This was a first for HTC.) For us hackers WM was great. Now Android is great and becoming greater by leaps and bounds. It's hard to beat Google Navigation and also all the cool voice commands offered by Android.
I would have bought the EVO 4G to replace my broken HD2, but I cannot stand the sprint network. I'm waiting for an HD2 device that has a 4.3 screen and is GSM.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

"all the cool voice commands" by both google and vlingo are going to change human history starting this year. You are right to highlight those. Its the dawn of a new era in computing (is my hd2 a 'Monolith' from the Arthur C Clarke books?)
Oh yeah, and Android doesn't have "TellMe" -- can't overlook that GoogleKiller.

Office 2010
CHT 2.0

You do know the thread title is an oxy moron?
This shouldn't be in the Android forum. It looks and smells like a troll thread to me.

Related

What is the best free software everybody uses?

I was just wondering, with so much software on the internet, what is the best free software people use? I have been doing so much customizing and tweaking I just wonder what more is out there.
I use:
amAze GPS
Google Maps
HTC Home Customizer
Live Search
My Mobilier
Skyfire
youtubeplay
GPS Today
Pocket SNES
Unfortunately some of the best ones are not free:
TomTom7
PocketInformant
GeoScout
SBP Mobile Shell
Sprite Backup
Sprite Terminator
Code Wallet Pro
Free ones that I have are:
Google Maps
Microsoft Live search
HHC Home customizer
Opera Mini Browser
PHM RegEdit
Resco File Explorer
TCPMP
Palringo
Cool, it seems most people use the same programs but your right some of the better ones are not free...
Flashlight is pretty useful at times
KeePassPPC for managing passwords. There are also versions for Windows, Mac and Linux, which is handy.
Free:
Calendar+
Htc Plus!
S2U2
S2V
S2P
Opera Mini
Nilisco Flashlight
iContac Burt Edition
Messenger
My Mobiler
PHM Regedit
sinPocketStopWatch
Kevtris 2
Pocket UNO
not free:
SPB Bubbles
Astraware Bejeweled 2
Bluezard
Garmin Mobile XT
SK Tools
ThumbCal
and some ohters that I don't have installed right now...
* Sorry this is so long... but recently I sent an email with apps & links to some of my friends who also have HTC phones, so I figure it's just easier to simply paste the text heree. *
Hello HTC friends!
I'm sending this email to some of you who I know have HTC PDAs, or may be getting one at some point. Over the few months that I've had my phone, I've received a few tips on good applications from some people, and have discovered several myself. So I thought it might be a good thing to send out an email to my friends that summarizes some my favorites, in the interest of sharing knowledge & experience for those who might find something you're looking for (or didn't even know you were looking for!).
First of all, it should be noted that I've found several of these tools / applications / customizations at a website called xda-developers.com. It's a site dedicated so HTC -branded phones *specifically*. I mostly use it by searching their forums for answers to questions, and looking for applications or basic tweaks:
http://www.xda-developers.com
Another good site for Windows Mobile devices is ppcgeeks.com:
http://www.ppcgeeks.com
I recently upgraded my phone to Windows Mobile 6.1 with the latest ROM update from HTC & Sprint, so a lot of these are still fresh in my head. It is also worth noting that all of the apps listed here are free; that is usually a criteria of mine when searching for new software especially for my phone.
nueLED: Turn on / turn off / redirect LED lights on your phone
This was one of the first little apps I installed. After I got my phone I noticed that it was always blinking to let me know it was "alive," and since I have bluetooth turned on all the time that light was blinking incessantly as well. I installed nueLED, configured it to disable the service LED and bluetooth LED, and now if my phone is blinking at me I know it's because it's *actually* trying to tell me something (missed call, voice mail, etc.).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=189618#post189618
Opera Mini web browser
It couldn't have been more than 2 days of using Pocket Internet Explorer before I got fed up with it and started looking for a new browser. Maybe I was spoiled by playing with my friend's iPhone, because the web browser absolutely blows away any browser I've seen for Windows Mobile. But Opera Mini is at least a step in the right direction, until someone develops something closer to the iPhone's Safari browser. I have high hopes for Firefox's version of a mobile browser, but that won't be out for a while. And although Opera Mini runs as a Java app,let I've found out how to create a shortcut for it (as well as Gmail's Java applet) so that you don't have to go through the annoying Java menus.
http://www.operamini.com/
* There's also "Opera Mobile," although I haven't tried it yet. They have a beta (currently v9.51) that is free, although I think their non-beta releases (currently v8.65) are only free for a 30-day trial. If anyone has had any experience with these, please share the knowledge!
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
Google Maps
This has got to be one of the coolest apps for mobile devices; a must-have. Good interface, relatively fast, great searching, and it's easy to check traffic at a glance. It also has the ability to interact with the GPS receiver if your device has one, and can give you driving directions. But it's not the best for turn-by-turn directions as you navigate if you're trying to use it with the GPS. And also be aware that any software which accesses your GPS will suck on the battery pretty good when it's turned on, which is why I only turn on the "Use GPS" feature of Google Maps sparingly.
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/maps/
Microsoft Live Search
Google Maps pretty much has the upper hand in most aspects: Map GUI, usability, searching, etc. However, one area Live Search seems to have Google Maps beat is turn-by-turn directions. While it doesn't include audio guidance (I haven't found a free app that does), it integrates pretty well with the GPS and will even prompt you if you go off course. Not bad for freeware. The same caveat applies for battery usage if you turn on the GPS locator.
http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
iContact: A more "finger-friendly" contacts manager
A better UI for interacting with the contacts in your address book. Originally started a while back by someone named "larna", and version 0.6 (April 2008) was good. Then after that developer didn't have any more time to devote to it, "supbro" took over and made it way better (July 2008). Now "burt" has made his "Burt Edition 6.2" (August 2008) and made some additional improvements, and now I think it's a great app. I would have recommended it even with larna's versions, but definitely now with supbro and burt's new features. It's light weight, responsive, and highly customizable. I can tell you how to set it as the default Contacts viewer, too.
http://burt.vndv.com/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=1
OggSync: Over-the-air sync with Google Calendar
This is a nice little app which synchronizes the Pocket Outlook calendar built into your device with your Google Calendar, via the internet connection on you phone. I looked at a few other solutions, and went this one because it is free, accurate, and doesn't use a 3rd-party server as a go-between. The free version is good. They also have a paid version (yearly subscription) which includes a few additional features including scheduled syncs and multiple Google calendars. The scheduled sync would be nice, and multiple calendars maybe (maps each Google Calendar to a category) -- but not enough for me to pay for it. If you don't use Google Calendar then OggSunc is probably useless; but if you do, this app is a big winner.
http://oggsync.com/
Total Commander: A more feature-rich file explorer
Although the interface looks a little bit "old school", I use this app more than I thought I would. More options when browsing & interacting with files (geez, you can even see the actual file extension for once!), plus you get a registry editor and the ability to interact with LAN file shares (if you're connected to a network via WiFi) without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
PPC PIM Backup: Backup personal data
This is an easy way to back up contacts, call logs, calendar entries, tasks, messages, and other files, etc. to your storage card. It's pretty light weight -- in fact there's no installation process, you just run the .exe and you're off and running. There is an optional scheduling mechanism for automatic backups; but I prefer to just use the manual backup periodically. It came in handy after flashing the latest ROM update last week.
http://www.dotfred.net/default.htm
TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player)
This is a nice alternative to Windows Media player, that actually plays formats beyond WMV. Fullscreen works great, and it is pretty customizable. Link to WM 6.1-compatible version below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
There are also a codecs to play WMV files:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/local_links.php?linkid=61
and other audio formats including AC3, FLAC, Vorbis, etc.
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
Flash Video Bundle: A way to play YouTube (and other) Flash videos
My friend Scott told me about this one. It is a cab installation that includes FLV codecs for TCPMP as well as a plugin for Pocket IE that allows you to save Flash videos from the youtube.com website (the non-mobile version).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FlashVideoBundle
YouTubePlay: Another way to save and play YouTube videos
My friend Mike showed me this other alternative. Not only will it play Flash videos like the TCPMP plugin, but it serves as a front-end for searching & saving YouTube videos. The player is good (fullscreen works nicely like TCPMP), and it seems to be a better alternative for finding YouTube videos than using a web browser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227
SPB Full Screen Keyboard
I haven't tried this because the device I use (HTC Titan / Sprint Mogul) has a slide-out keyboard. But for devices that don't have a hardware keyboard, I've seen other software keyboards that are supposedly better than the ones that come standard on the ROM. One that is mentioned often is SPB Full Screen Keyboard. They have a free download, although I don't know if it's a limited functionality version or a limited time trial of the one for purchase.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
Change # of vertical lines on new SMS reply screen
Windows Mobile v6.1 comes with a new "threaded" view for text messages, but the default space for replying to messages on my phone was only 2 lines. You can increase this if you want by simply editing the the thread_sms.htm file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366347
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The next few applications are clones/extracts/repackaged versions of some of the software that comes standard on the HTC Touch and similar devices. So for the Touch, Diamond, etc., I think these are already baked in. But for others, here they are:
FTouchFlo version 1.4.1
Software that mimic's the HTC "TouchFlo" functionality, which allows scrolling with your thumb or finger rather than having to use scroll bars. It also allows for some nice customizations, including the ability to launch different programs via directional finger swipes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
SCLPC++: Cloned version of the HTC Cube
There are a few cubes out there, and this is the one I found to be the most useful & responsive. It's also a 4-sided cube, with the last face being an additional program launcher. In truth, I don't use it as much as I thought I would now that I have it all set up and configured, but it's still pretty cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358102
Configuration tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374939
HTC Home Plugin / HTC Home Customizer
Large digital clock, favorite contacts, program launcher, weather, etc., on your Today screen. This can be used to configure, customize, and backup settings for the stock HTC Home as well as the custom one. Install "HTC Home Customizer v1.0 Final," and upon first use it will prompt you to install the HTC Home Plugin if you don't already have one.
http://www.pocketemu.com/download4.html
If your interested, there are also several other HTC applications and skins extracted from the Touch ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533
I also have the .cab file installers for all of these programs if you need them. If anyone has other applications that they enjoy, please share! In particular, I am looking for a more "finger friendly" alternative to the default UI for the Calendar. I very rarely use my stylus, as I find it more convenient to just use my finger or thumb nail. That's a bit more difficult with the default Calendar interface, and there are other things I don't like about it as well. If you've seen the Calendar interface on the iPhone, it's pretty good. Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather have a Windows Mobile device than an iPhone, especially since you can get more "under the hood" and customize it, etc., and there's a huge community of developers making apps for WM. But there are some things that are much better on the iPhone, including web browsing and overall touchscreen responsiveness. But hey, at least we're moving in the right direction. Maybe Windows Mobile 7 and beyond!?
By the way, I recently found this site:
http://www.touch-innovation.com/
It contains links to several different kinds of "finger friendly" Windows Mobile apps, including some of the ones I've listed above. There's a link to an older (free) version of "ThumbCal" on there, and I may give that a try at some point. But it looks like the more recent versions of it are no longer free.
EDIT: I also use S2U2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
and nueLight:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueLight.aspx
SenseiMP said:
nueLight:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueLight.aspx
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I tried out nueLight, and although the high beam and morse code functions are fancy and cool, I will still use Nilisco flashlight as my default flashlight. The reason is that I can easily bind it to a button (comm manager) and flick it on and off. The nueLight will only turn on with the button, but will not turn off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1381521&postcount=2
There were people saying they had a NES emulator for the Mogul, but I don;t think it actually exists, I never saw it posted. Would be sweet.
emkorial said:
There were people saying they had a NES emulator for the Mogul, but I don;t think it actually exists, I never saw it posted. Would be sweet.
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I use Smartgear. It emulates NES, GameBoy Color, and Genesis. It has a free trial version, but it is WELL worth the $10 it costs to register.
Find it here:
http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/SmartGear.html
My favourite freeware:
1. Today Agenda: A rather simple Today screen plug-in that allows very flexible customization of information from your calendar and tasks to your Today screen. multiple-day agendas in collapsible line items on your Today Screen. Useful for precisely deciding how much real estate you want to give up for it. I love this program.
2. Amaze: Free voice navigation. Works pretty darned well.
3. S2u2: Slide to unlock program that allows you to dump your unlock line on your Today Screen, provides a bunch of useful info on your lock screen, allows calls, and is highly customizable.
4. Skyfire Beta: I really like Skyfire Beta. It works with most websites and provides full web experience, including streaming sound and video (you can play Youtube right on the browser).
5. Youtubeplayer: A nice means of searching, playing, and downloading you tube videos.
6. Pocket Music Lite: Free music player. No fancy coverflow interface, but a nice skinnable finger friendly interface. Only plays MP3s, but you can just get a converter program for your desktop.
7. Vade Mecum: Nice little ebook ready that reads plucker format. I read downloads from www.projectguternberg.org all the time. Has bookmark, search features.
8. VS Painter Lite: A nice draw and paint program that is free. Useful to annote pictures, draw maps or dungeons, etc.
9. Total Commander: One of the best file explorers out there.
10. Set Volume: Full screen volume controller. Skinnable and nice to hard key so you don't ever have to fart around with some tiny onscreen volume control.
11. Pocket Screen: Just a screen capture program, but very nice at that. Useful for showing off your stuff on forums.
12. Beyond Pod: A nice podcast player and RSS feed reader.
13. Google Maps and Live Search: Indispensible. Must haves.
14. Icontact (Burt's version): Very nice finger friendly contacts manager.
15. PCM Keyboard: Very customizable, essentially gives you the iphone keyboard experience on your ppc. Disable the annoying dictionary and word complete functions however.
Those are my favourite non-game freeware apps.
A shout out to shareware SPB Pocket Plus for having a very stable and nicely customizable Today Screen and Launcer experience. I tried Ulitmate Launcher and had all sorts of errors and problems and have read nightmares about HTC Home and HHC.
Devin
Fav app
My Favorite is GC Java Pack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402980
I have Meboy gameboy color emulator that runs as a java app. I love i play pokemon on it all the time
http://java-phones.com/tools/meboy

Save BeyondPod!

The developer of BeyondPod - possibly one of the best podcatcher/RSS readers available - has decided to focus more on the Android platform and less on WinMo. As anyone who has tried to use BeyondPod on any of the 6.5 builds knows, there are a number of issues with the way it renders feeds (missing scroll bars, no text size control, no finger scrolling, etc). Basically the program needs to be updated to support the new version of IE in 6.5.
This would also be an oppurtunity for anyone interested in the future of BeyondPod on WinMo to take over its development. The project is open source, and there are a number of possible improvements that could make this app even better (feed search, apptodate support, homescreen plugin, etc). The dev would be more than happy to have the help.
Couple links here:
BeyondPod home page
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/
BeyondPod source
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx
Discussion on 6.5 issues
http://beyondpod.codeplex.com/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=53878
Anyone interested in tackling this project? Or is there an even better alternative out there for those of us who want to get our podcast on?
No one cares? Or maybe I'm one of the few that do?
Guess I need to teach myself some programming skills . . .
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
jeremy89632 said:
Im using BeyondPod, great podcast software!
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You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
TheDaddy said:
You might be using it now, but won't be for long . . . if you upgrade to WM6.5 or many cooked ROMs of WM6.1. That's the point of this thread.
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Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
jeremy89632 said:
Can we try to petition or email them?
At least write an app for wm 6.5.
Than that will be ok.
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Dude. Read the first post carefully. And follow the links.
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
S200guy said:
I liked beyondpod but switched to speeedreader due to google reader sync. they should actually talk with each other, both have great features, combined it would be a killer app..
http://emuneee.wordpress.com/eeenno/speeed-reader/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516168&page=9
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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Speedreader is no comparison to beyondpod. Beyondpod is the best software i've found by far for managing audio podcasts, multiple auto downloads, intuitive interface and integrated player with great playback and bookmarking features. I'm surprised more people are not aware of this awesome software and if anything out there is close or better I would like to know. I would almost abandon 6.5 just for Beyondpod, but 6.1 scrolling is so terrible that i cant do it. Beyondpod is one piece of software that would actually be worth paying for if it weren't already offered for free.
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SECOND that ... i would do it but I am no coder ... BOunty perhaps? or how can we get it done ?
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
jeremy89632 said:
The name defines, BEYONDPOD.
So yeah, this app is good.
Runs quite well on wm6,5, have to use the Dpad to scroll up and down though.
Able to download, listen and play audio and video and see podcast listing in wm 6.5
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Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
bruceo said:
Was there an update? I have had at least 15 6.5 roms flashed and the content view in beyondpod was not working therefore rendering it useless for downloading. Sometimes you could see content view the first time you brought it up, but it would not refresh if you scrolled and would be blank the next time.
I would be up to adding to a bounty if necessary
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Oh, I dont notice this issue, as what you mentioned work perfectly fine, (Surprisingly) on my device.
I will check out and see how it goes.
Cheers.
Hi All,
jeremy89632 is right, if you just use your Dpad then the error doesn't occur. Another option I have found is that if you use the update and download option then that works as well.
I'm a .NET programmer and I think this is written in .NET. Let me take a peek at the source code for a few days and then I'll let you know if it is something I might want to tackle. I do a TON of development work in .NET but nothing on the mobile platform yet - this might be interesting. Plus, I've been looking for a good RSS/podcast reader myself!
/Chimp (Tom)
Tom, Def check it out it rocks for audio podcasts.
I seem to have found a temp workaround, which tells me a solution cannot be far off. When I go into content view and cannot see the content or it is messed up. I just switch my touch pro to landsacpe and the view is fine abd I can use the dpad to scroll. I will ususally just shift right back to landscape and the view remains perfect but dpad wont scroll until I first touch the screen, then it will dpad scroll with no problem. I can click and download feeds with no problem. I reduced the large text size in beyondpod settings. All the podcasts manage and playback fine but the volume is much lower than normal hard to hear even with mediaplayer and system volume at max. Volume in my other apps and mediaplayer is very loud as normal.
It it more complex than I thought. Also, is this only for a SmartPhone? Or is also for a WM Professional device? When I finally got it loaded into VS2008 it only showed a SmartPhone device.
I'll keep playing with it.
Chimp (Tom)
Definitely PPC touchscreens. On 6.1 it was pretty flawless and fairly finger friendly.
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
Well, as this app is for the touchscreen users, it is easier to squash bugs for users rather than to create a smartphone version and cause issues.
SimpTheChimp said:
Hmm... It is definately showing up as a Smartphone only when I load it. I'll have to figure out how to switch it over to a PPC device (and also support a SmartPhone).
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I downloaded the code, as well... I got it to successfully compile and run in the WM6.5 Pro emulator (with the stated problems). You need to change the target platform to WM 6 Pro.
Like you said, the code is really complex, but I kind of understand why, it's a great program, and I've missed it since I finally got 6.5 on my i910...
I don't have a lot of spare time, but I'll try to tackle this thing...

Just Bought an HD2 WICH Apps are really needed for daily use??

As you see the title! Please put some apps for HD2!
Thanks a LOT
Appreciate it!!
Wifi remote access for file transfers (if you have wifi in the house) because it's faster than a usb cable.
The newest version of the facebook app from MS marketplace
Pimbackup
dutty's task manager
I have more but they aren't for day to day use (except for maybe coreplayer but that's not free). Also search for tips and tweaks and have a read.
+1 Wifi Remote Access
G-Remote ($9) if you watch TV/video through your PC and want an ace remote control
TCMPMP Video Player (free) - so you can just drop videos straight on to your phone (like Divx and Xvid) and play them straight off (or CorePlayer but it's $30)
AlReader2 - The BEST ebook-reader bar none
Google Maps (obviously)
TomTom or iGo (both paid) are both great GPS navigators
FPSECE (I've not tried it since it came out of beta) which, for $10, gives you a frickin' PLAYSTATION on your phone!!!
MyPlayer (free) is the WM iPlayer equivalent - plus other freeview channels and live TV (assuming you're UK)
And down the line, consider looking at how to flash ROMs etc. if you want more tabs/newer features/better speed and stability (if you choose the right ROM!)
There's a Torch application (free) which uses your flash as an emergency torch - very bright and very handy!
Oh, and Windows MyPhone is (imo) the best way to back-up contacts, texts, etc.
Lastly, need a game for the bus? Try Experiment 13 - it's free and the graphics/physics are great!
Oh, and want to replace the basic mp3 player? Try S2P, very colourful, and fast to navigate, very similar to the iphone music player if you've seen that - although it's just left beta and is now $4 (although probably an old version about)
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All of these are findable on XDA. Finally, welcome to the forum!!
Hrs of fun ahead
j.gigola said:
As you see the title! Please put some apps for HD2!
Thanks a LOT
Appreciate it!!
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firstly download marketplace to get microsoftmyphone very useful
Mainly download cookies 1.8&editor you'll end up tweaking your hd2 more than playing with apps I find.
Come back to this section very often as you'll always find something new all the time.
Most of all enjoy its f'in gr8
11calcal said:
firstly download marketplace to get microsoftmyphone very useful
Mainly download cookies 1.8&editor you'll end up tweaking your hd2 more than playing with apps I find.
Come back to this section very often as you'll always find something new all the time.
Most of all enjoy its f'in gr8
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I happen to know that there are some major issues with cookies home tab 1.8. Don't you think recommending a piece of know buggy software (no matter how good previous versions were) is a bit reckless?
M3PH said:
I happen to know that there are some major issues with cookies home tab 1.8. Don't you think recommending a piece of know buggy software (no matter how good previous versions were) is a bit reckless?
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what like?, seems to works ok for me........
donwhann said:
what like?, seems to works ok for me........
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There seem to be serveral crash bugs in it, major slow down issues and from what i can gather it's a bit of a mess. All the custom rom threads are on fire with request for 1.7 cabs (fools should have kept backups) and declarations of wishing to wait till 1.8.1
Personally i think sense is perfectly fine for my needs. It just need s kick in the butt to make it faster when it's after it's first boot.
donwhann said:
what like?, seems to works ok for me........
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I've not had no problems with cookies 1.8. I think it actually runs much smoother and is far more customizable than previous versions, no issues so far from a mess, anyways he was asking for opinions on apps & I gave mine
I like Bing for movie times. It also has turn-by-turn directions. Map-wise, I think Google Maps looks better, but Bing is a far sleeker application.
No issues from 1.8 for me... But let's keep this thread on track for our newbie friend, right?
To newbie : Cookie's Home Tab is a fantastic modification to your homepage, which provides you with many more shrtocuts on your homepage and tons of other configurations (such as a music player, task-list etc), but as you can see, the latest version may be buggy. Previous versions are stable as anything tho.
Thanks!
Thank you all for your quick responses!! LovE YA ALLLL!
i think everyone forgot to mention office mobile 2010 and i forgot to mention the following:
Leo Cpu speed
Chainfire's 3D driver patch
BSB tweaks
SRS wowhd 2.1
myriad java
vncviewer
And if you like gaming and a bit of nostalgia try out fpsece. It's a playstation emulator
just about to type BSB tweaks and saw the post above..
Fpsece - a must
skyfire - for browsing flash sites like tvcatchup.com
xda shutdown - handy for a quick reset
HDWalls - full screen wallpaper
JWMD icon changer - change all icons in start menu etc.
LeoCPU speed
world cup app - www.mobilepractices.com
Scilors Groove Mobile/Downloader - stream or download any tune
G-Alarm - not free but very good alarm app
mem maid or SKTools - to clean up your HD2
my Player - great bbc iplayer and live TV app (in the UK)
Sky - (if you've got a sky box you can remote record)
Games....
Mini Golf Wacky Worlds
SPB Puzzle
Experiment 13
Pool Rebel
Ivy the Kiwi
Morphgear
Fpsece (so good I put it in twice!)
that should keep you going for a bit!
if your gonna suggest the world cup application then i'll suggest the F1 live timing application. Watching the canadian grand prix on sunday with it was amazing.
My essentials are:
1. Dial-up Enabler/Disabler
2. NETCFv35
3. RegEdit
4. Remote Tracker (with MyMobiler on the PC)
5. SPB TV
6. WunderRadio
7. Total Commander
Navi: MN7
Other: GPS Weather Radar, mobiPocket Reader with Wikipedia (2008)
Works fine alltogether!
Greetings
oldT830man (now a new HTC HD2 man, but I keep my T830)
Hello All, thanks for this thread, very useful. One question, what is the right regeditor?
I have used TCM, but can't figure out how to import reg keys (tweaks exported to save effort next time I hard reset). PHM regeditor seems to have the import keys greyed out. Mobile registry editor and Tascal seem to import files, but the keys don't actually change. Am I just a n00b and missing something?
Figured it out, simply copy the reg file into the registry root. TCM does it all then!
i use remote desktop client to log onto my pc im suprised more people dont use it as often as i do to control their pc its so easy to set up
all u got to do is right click my computer, properties and enable remote connections from there.
then when ur on your own wifi just connect to the pc's hostname or ip.
forward port 3389 on ur router to your desktop pc and you can do it over the internet too by connecting to your external ip / hostname
i use it a lot to do stuff i cant do on my phone, also if i want to download something when im out i can set it and it will be done when i get home etc
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i also play emulators and just installed as many tower defense games as i could find.
tomtom and igo... both installed to memory card and the shortcuts are set up to reinstall when i flash. the settings DO save, but i have addresses set in my contacts anyway and tomtom has the feature to look up from your addressbook
i use torch on my shortcuts, but a different one that doesnt have a user interface its just on and off.
i have my brightnesses (both) set to dimmest, and i have the app autobacklight as a shortcut so i can switch between dark and auto (which is always bright enough). its usually on auto unless im in a dark environment. 1 click dim mode lol
batti is another good one. there are lots of programs like batti that let you put your battery level accross the top of the screen, but batti is the best to me because it lets you customise the colours perfectly so you can match it to whatever colour theme you got going on or just have it how you want it.
i used to use s2u2 because you could change the background randomly and show lots of appointments on the main screen. and read texts check missed called etc. dont even have to unlock your phone half the time...
i just installed omarket and that has unlocked a lot for me. you should def do that. i had to make an account on the website but it was worth the hassle.
metaldetector is a great app. so wierd how it actually works.
i have various guitar tuners, im still looking for the best one though...
lmt is another good one that basically makes your phone way more useable. i dont use all the features, but its still added a lot to the way i can use the phone
i read some pdf's on my phone now that it doesnt take ages to render pages...
ive used wififofum in the past, i should have that on my phone now really its v useful when you wanna see all the networks around you.
msn to chat once in a while
mostly been using energyrom
Hello
I am totally new with HD2
I am reading all your post and i will be thankfull if some one can explain me some question:
1) how to install all this stuff on my HD2
2) what should be first stuff to install
dusancurcin said:
Hello
I am totally new with HD2
I am reading all your post and i will be thankfull if some one can explain me some question:
1) how to install all this stuff on my HD2
2) what should be first stuff to install
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the most common way is to plug your hd2 into your pc via usb.
then copy the files you have downloaded (usually its .cab) and paste them onto your phones sd card storage (via my computer)
then unplug your phone from the pc
then on your phone, use file explorer to find the cabs and run them. that will install it.
then to run it, find it in the start menu...
as for what to install first, system stuff.
but really, if you install a rom you will wipe all your data, but dont worry about flashing and roms yet, just try out different apps and customisations you like while you pick it all up.
i install things like s2u2 first (lockscreen app) when ive set my phone up i use it for a while before i install the next thing, so that if a problem pops up its usually because of the last thing you installed/modified.
read a lot of stuff. dont worry if it doesnt make sense at first.
After you install all those recomended applications above,try a keyboard called Swype,your head will hit the roof with amazement!! so be careful.

Anyone still use WM6.5?

Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
THUDUK said:
Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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As you see in my sig below, I currently run Athine OS.
I dont need Android HD2 anymore. too many problems occur that cause bad blocks in its NAND.
Cheers..
Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.
Cenobite_ said:
Yea, I still use it. Oh, don't get me wrong. I tried Android and WP7. I just don't think they gave me enough reason to switch over completely. Occasionally boot Android but that's mainly because my son likes Fruit Ninja.
Edit: I run Dutty's 6.5.x ROM.
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same for me but reverse is true.aftrer finding vplayer advnce ang moboplayer i dont need wm.it sucks.now on dhd rafdroid build.
I've just gone back to winmo, had nand android and wp7 but with micro usb probs gone back to winmo and quite happy
after 3 phones my 4th works perfect, and it does make a big difference, no freezes random shutoffs, reboots it works perfect and i am very happy with it. plus i am tired of tweaking the phone and modding it, i just want to use and enjoy it. i will go to android someday, i love what my friends android's do, but i am stickin with 6.5 and sense, and cht. it is so nice when you get a great running phone. i do not have to even clear temp files anymore, even though i do every while, when i think of it.
Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.
Yes love it to the max...
Best smartphone os ever..
I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer but some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people
Still the one for me
I've been using WM since the Pocket PC Phone 2003 version. I really like it. I don't play many games, but I have dozens of applications that I have collected over the years (mostly free), and the HD2 runs WM better than any phone I've owned. I also like the fact that I can customize it using the registry, and the integration with MS Office applications, including Outlook.
I have Android on my tablet, but I prefer WM.
The only reason that I have Android on my HD2 (SD card version) is so that I can play with SPB Mobile 3D. Other than that, I still love WinMo. It does what I want it to do better than the other OS's available.
Android and WP7 run well, if not a bit heavy on battery. But at the end of the day, I always end up with WinMo 6.5 as my daily driver.
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I have to say I am amazed anyone is still using winmo, Android is stable on the HD2, if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong
Could'nt go back to winmo now, would missed all the games and other apps you just cant get with winmo. The only thing I miss a little is the performance of coreplayer bult some of the new video app releases are nearly there now.
+ nobody is really developing for winmo anymore, closed platform, let it die in peace people
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Glad you like Android on your HD2 and everyone is untitled to their preceded OS. But from your post Windows Mobile was not an OS for you anyway as Win Mo is more occasion true power users OS and a business oriented OS. Not for people that like to play games and just use social networks. Win Mo gives you a true mobile computing capabilities where Android is still paling so much in this area in my opinion. So you see your statement that "if you are finding it not so you are doing something wrong" is totally incorrect as if it was not for Win Mo you would not have Android or IOS. You see Win Mo was the first true mobile OS and any other OS is simply just playing catch up in my mind. Yes Android,Wp7, and IOS all run smoother than Win Mo but all lack the true functionality of Win Mo. I you ask me Microsoft shot their self in the foot when they decided to stop development of Win Mo and created WP7 unless WP7 makes massive leaps in the next year. Also there is still plenty of development of Windows Mobile, I regularly see articles on Windows Mobile in the XDA portal like at least tw to three times a week. No harm meant friend just speaking my opinion
Now as far as the subject at hand I am currently running Hyperdriid from NAND. Which I have to say I like, I only went NAND though to see what all the fuss was about and for the hands on experience of it, I have only been running NAND for three weeks. But like member Samsamueal I will probably be going back to Win Mo before long. I do not like the way copy and past works on Android. I not like how the task managers in Android work, tasked more time to close a application. I absolutely hate that the Android keyboard does not have directional buttons on it,the little arrow icon thing is total crap as far as actually being usable, and you have to hit the symbol button to get any symbol where in Win Mo you do not. I do not like the fact that you can not choice where you want to download files to or save files to, and when you save pictures from mms you can not choose where they go. You have to save to the default location then manually move them to where you want them. You just have a app tray not a true started menu that you can navigate similar to a real computer. You can not have a file to just save games in and then assess from the app tray to cut down on clutter the same is true with any other thing you would want to do this with like tools, media, and etc.Android is still playing catch up in the functionality area to me
Peace
is it coincidence that ive come across this thread after returning to winmo from a few days on android?? no......its fate... fate I tells ya.....
Anyway... yeah lots of people still use WM.
If it had a decent forum reading app i wouldn't need Android at all.....
I'm trying to use android daily - there are a lot of things I like about it. However, when I need a rock solid performance (i.e. on a business trip, etc.) I reboot back into winmo 6.5. I know it, what it does, how long the battery will last, etc. I also know what it doesn't do, that Android does better (imho). I think there is more flexibility in apps on android. But the open platform causes issues. It's why quite a lot of people use the Office suite from MS. They know what to expect.
I'm very happy to have the opportunity to play with the phone.
Kris
samsamuel said:
Heading back to winmo as soon as I get a few hours to update my kitchen.
Bored of android, no clue how to tweak it, miss the registry.
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True that's my main problem with android I really don't know how to tweak it. But with wm just edit registry reboot. Your done. Really Hate microsft for not updating this powerful os if they had they act together nobody could touch them with wm. Even yrs of neglect from microsoft look what the devs manage to do with the thing. I love showing my friends all of the oses am able to run. Wm will always be 1, as for microsoft am done with them never will buy their product because they very old and stupid people working there it seems. When Steve Jobs announced the iphone even at $600 with a 2yrs ballmer bald ass was just laughing while Steve Jobs was working on the iphone and boom who's laughing now bald ass. Microsft had what 90 percent of the mobile marketing share. Than 600 yrs later they give us that feature less wanna ios crap they call windows phone 7. Lol Microsoft had as much if not more followers than apple did with the iPhone. I mean we still use wm till this day. Microsoft simply let us down.
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I still use WM 6.5.
Everything you need, everything is smooth, everything you want.
I thought I would go back and try WM6.5...
Now I have the latest EnergyROM
Things I realise that I have missed since messing about with Android and Windows Phone...
1) SENSE UI on wm is superp, the lackluster effort with the Android version just doesn't compare and the HTC HUB on WP7 well not worth even mentioning. Although the weather animations are completely unnecessary, they are truly a thing of beauty compared to the simpler Android effects.
2) Email TAB is so slick to use, finger flick through your emails, likewise with the photo tab, twitter tab is brilliant, probably similar to the Android Sense version, although WM6.5 Sense severely lacks any Facebook TAB that is of any use.
3) Calendar that is so easy to use its laughable, on WM6.5 native calendar you can simply press hold cut and flick to another date and paste your appointments, I have never come across any calendar in Android and the WP7 one certainly doesn't allow this, its probably one of the things I do most, is move appointments onto the next day
4) Had to pick up some glass from a company yesterday, opened Google maps and was amazed just how more information is shown on the maps within WM compared to Androids, found 7 satellites within seconds, 3G picked up the company, had a route on the map within a minute of opening the app, super fast and never dropped internet connection, which often happened with the Android builds used, although WP7 was equally as stable, the Bing maps are not quite upto the Google ones. OK Android has the turn by turn google map navigation, but I prefer the top down google map views to the 3D type turn by turn stuff.
5) Went out for a run last night, started up Run.GPS, instant Satelites found, clicked on the bluetooth headphones, yet again instantly found and working, started the music and I was yet again amazed and had completely forgotten just how nice the sound is through the HD2 running WM6.5, with the audio booster on even through the bluetooth headphones the music sound was crisp clear and bass deep, the voice responses through run.GPS are so clear and human like were as the voices on Android versions have a more robotic edge, even Marathon and Endomondo on WP7 are not so clear. on my 7 mile hour run never lost a sattelite and the music played perfectly not a skip anywhere, bliss, when I got back I uploaded the gpx file and compared it to the runkeeper, endomondo and rungps Android gpx files of the same run done a few days ago, and to my amazement the smoothness and accuracy of the WM version was far superior.
6) Multi Tasking, what I forgot was I still had so many apps running in the background without any problem, the superb arkswitch shows up I had, these running at the same time.
tmail, file explorer, tasks, run.gps, googlemaps, bbc news, facebook app, calendar, calculator and internet with dropbox page loaded.
7) Battery life on my usual run as mentioned above on most Android builds both NAND and SD would drop from 100% to around 60%, where as last night it only dropped to 75%.
I probably am starting to sound like an advert for WM, I am not I thought by going over to Android and then when I put WP7 on my HD2 I would never look back, but actually WM is pretty fantastic, except for its application marketplace, which is such a shame all microsoft need to do was improve the marketplace, introduce a new UI like the metro one for WM and re-market it.
Using Windows mobile is like running a PC on a small hand-held you can USB link instantly with your computer, drag and drop stuff that will actually work, you can download files from the internet and save them anywhere you like, you can pull out your SD card and not have any problems then pop it back in and the files will be instantly viewable.
YES there are some very good games on Windows mobile, Ferrari GT HD2 accelerometer version is graphically brilliant and runs like a dream, huff and puff is similar to angry birds and looks good but none of these windows mobile games come close to the Android or Windows Phone versions and choice, I particularly love wordsmith/words with friends on Android and AlphaJax and words by post on WP7, there is nothing like this on Windows mobile.
Basically Windows mobile is probably the best operating system on a phone, but its let down by its marketplace, lack of development in applications for gaming and social media.
I will probably end up flashing wp7 when the HD2 NODO update eventually gets here, running Android from the SD dual boot yet again, just because some of those applications are too good to miss. its a shame because windows mobile is superior in my opinion.
I use WM 6.5 daily for work, PDA, my hobby, game, music, and many. WM6.5 is very good.
As the price down, I purchased another HD2 this month. My opinion is to purchase more HD2 if I have money.
I am using Artemis v57 and installed Cookie Home Tab and CHT Editor. That's so great
THUDUK said:
Thinking about giving it a go, been running my HD2 on Android and WP7 for so long now, anyone still use it daily?
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Yes! I currently use the stock 3.14 rom!
I don't have trouble in daily activities!
I have a pure vanilla 6.5 (fully patched with all HTC's updates) and can safely say I won't need to faff about with it until my next phone comes along. It still scares me with what this phone can do!

Advice wanted

Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
D
its all about tast , If I where you I would play with the omnia for some time.
DavidJBrown said:
Hi All,
I've just been given an Omnia 7 and I'm not sure what to do with it.
I have an HTC Wildfire (Unlocked running CM) and my initial thoughts were to put CM on the Omnia, after a bit of research I found this wasn't possible.
So do I migrate from Android to Wm7 on the Omnia (and how would I copy my contacts etc) and is it worth it?
I don't expect an answer to: is Android better than WM7 (nor is this the place for it) but has anyone else came from Android to WM7? Anyone prefer the Omnia over the Wildfire etc? Are there like for like apps between Android and WM7? Things like Task killer, utils, games etc
If I do use the Omnia is it worth upgrading (as per the great guides on here) and what version should I upgrade to?
I also notice that the links to the Samsung USB Driver/Flash utilities don't work any more, does anyone have a copy of they available to dl?
Appreciate I'm asking a lot here, any advise would be greatly received.
D
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150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best SUPER amoled screens by far and is with 4" really perfect. htc wildfire are a VW Polo and Omnia7 are a Audi A4 All good apps and games has wp7 too and it works fast smooth with a pure and clear UI. and if you flash my mi7ROM you get a Full unlocked (root) OS with ability to install custom apps and improvements
look in my signature you will find my omnia7 rom and my online storage ....
SAMSUNG OMNIA 7 mi7ROM 8107 and - my storage content on htcfanboys.com
mirolg said:
150% worth! omnia7 has one of the best amoledPlus screens by far and is with 4" really perfect.
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Just to point out that it's not AMOLED Plus, it's just SuperAMOLED. Galaxy S2, Galaxy Tab 7.7 (the new one) and Galaxy Nexus are the top-tier devices for the moment utilizing Super AMOLED Plus display matrix.
Like i said to derik123derik123, i´ll try to put my toughts in a parcial way...
First of all, i´ve been always merging between iOS and Android,like them a lot, lived with it for years, all kinda of mobiles, jailbreakin, rootin,flashing custom, downgradin, even opening to change hardware parts...
Last year i had Motorola Atrix 4G and iPhone 4S, great ones, but without the opportunity to live with an oficial ICS ROm, i sold Atrix and in this January without jailbreak and tired of iOS, sold iPhone 4s....
Now, i had the opportunity and bought and Samsung Omnia 7...remember when you´re a kid and saw that toy in TV or Movie and when you got it sounds just more perfect then you could thought? When sounds that you will pass your entire life with it spending all minute just adoring it?
Well, i felt just like when started to use Omnia 7 with Mango 7.5, i really felt happier each time i scrolled my finger, the system is so fluid, so fast, so responsive, its beautiful, its simple, modern and intuitive, you dont have to dig its already there in your face.
For the first time i felt that my years with Droid and iPhones passed...Microsoft has now conquered me and surprised with an inteligent innovation, they just create something unique, there is nothing in their system that remebers Android or iOS, they have their identity.
I think that if you like the new, the unique and different, Windows Phone 7 it´s a new and beuatiful world to explore all time.
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
D
DavidJBrown said:
Well I took your advice. I gave my Wildfire to the wife (Her G1 was getting a bit long in the tooth) and installed mirolg's excellent rom.
I'm now sat here with the Omnia running the mirolg unlocked rom and I'm impressed! Google/Facebook/Linkedin contact all came across and worked perfectly.
Yes the screen is very nice, must get some video to play on it. Just a few niggles though if anyone can help.
It would be nice to be able to turn on/off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS from the start screen. I've installed toggle but it only does 3G and Wifi, anyone know of an app that does all 4?
Slightly annoyed that there is no SD slot to upgrade the capacity, I though most phones came with this these days.
On a much wider note are there any 'must have' apps or games on this device? What do you lot run and recommend?
Look forward to the replies!
D
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Check marketplace for Connection Tiles.
Cheers!
I believe Supreme shortcuts should do the trick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343993
HOMEBREW xap wp7 apps ( tnx xda developer)
Marketplace apps:
AlbumFlow- music player with cover
AudioAnalyzer- sound check app
Babylon Translator- ad free translator with the most languages
Bedbug- better sleep soundplayer
Betty Crocker- best recipe app with pics
Cocking Timer- very cool 3x timer- works in background
Convert2Go- convert app
Clinometer
Cocktail Flow- cocktails
Dance Hub- Dj- mix with offline download
Ebay- ebay
Filmstarts- Kino/movie app
GPS Voice Navigation- online GPS Voice Navigation
handyscan- scan your documents and load up to skydrive
IMDB- movie DB
Lighting Dial- cool homescreen alternative with much shotcuts
MobileTag- barcode scan
Notes- simple, clean notes app
Remotely Possible- play you media from PC on your device- cool!
SleepTimer- sleep music timer
Slydr-keyboard like swipe
Sky Drive- Microsoft skydrive app
Signal Generator- generate test- audio signals
Stick Tiles- stick a notes
Soundtracker- best music app like spotify but free
Soudhound- better shazam alternative
Free Music Cloud- Dj- mix with offline download
SweetNSpicy- Indian and Thai recepies- great!
Tech New Now- best Technical rss feed reader
TuneIn Radio- Radio app
Timer- timer
TuneWiki- live Lyrics app by play a song- in different languages!
QuickMinder- Time minder tile app
WhatsUp- short message app multicross OS
Voice Memos Lite- record Voice Memos
wikipedia Reader- wp reader
Wiztiles- Induvidualize your custom tiles
Weave- best Technical rss feed reader
WPcentral- wpcentral.com app
WP7Applist- Marketplace overview
XDA-Developers- board express forum app
Youtube Pro- with down- and upload!
Thanks again for all the help! Supreme shortcuts is exactly what I wanted and I've installed most of the apps mentioned by the awesome mirolg.
Phone is now almost perfectly setup...........apart from Zune! For a start it's seems unnecessary as I was used to drag and drop on Android, but I can live with it.
What I can't live with is the way it won't copy a full album over! I have a lot of Audio Books, I do a lot of driving and I find them better than music.
They are all ID3 marked up and work fine on all other devices. I sync them up with the Omnia 7 and for some reason it copies over file 1,2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 etc!!
I really don't understand why it will not copy the FULL contents of the album, I've checked the tags, they are all good, all files are there and play on other devices, I have removed and re added the library, but no. It does not seem to work!
Also, a very strange thing. I fully charge the phone, connect Bluetooth in the car and the phone to USB to charge and by the end of my journey (6Hrs) the phone battery is nearly dead! I havn't used the phone for anything, 3g, Wifi, GPS all turmed off!
Any idea why the phone seems to discharge? I know the USB port on the Car Stereo is fine as I have used other phones with it.
Thanks again, I'd appreciate any advice!
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